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    Default Euthanasia anyone?

    Do you think you wld be able to do this or assist someone in doing this?

    What are your view on this and do you think it shld be legal here?
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    Default Re: Euthanasia anyone?

    I'd help someone if they wanted me to do it and I wouldn't get in trouble.

    I'm not against it at all.

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    I believe in Euthanasia if its best for the sufferer.I hate to see a human or animal suffer.
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    I don't like to see ppl or animal suffer either. I dunno if i cld do it for a person i love but i'd want them to do it for me. I guess that's selfish

    We just have to put our dog who has been with us for 15years. She has cancer and the vet recommended that she be put to sleep :cry:
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    I have it in my living will not to be kept alive using extraordinary means.

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    AITC.........I agree and I keep "the Living Will" updated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaio
    We just have to put our dog who has been with us for 15years. She has cancer and the vet recommended that she be put to sleep :cry:

    Awwwwwwwww...
    I'm so sorry to hear that Vaio.
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    Default Re: Euthanasia anyone?

    I don't have the guts to help someone but I would like that help if necessary. My living will says to pull the plug if my case is hopeless.

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    I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't judge anyone who did either.
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    Default Re: Euthanasia anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by vaio
    Do you think you wld be able to do this or assist someone in doing this?

    Yes, it's called being human, since i don't like seeing people suffer. The arguments against euthanasia don't make sense anyhow.
    What are your view on this and do you think it shld be legal here?
    Trinidad is too conservative.
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    Default Re: Euthanasia anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by vaio
    I don't like to see ppl or animal suffer either. I dunno if i cld do it for a person i love but i'd want them to do it for me. I guess that's selfish

    We just have to put our dog who has been with us for 15years. She has cancer and the vet recommended that she be put to sleep :cry:
    Vaio, sorry about your dog. I seem to remember you posting about the death of another pet, but I could be wrong.

    Anyway, about your question, no I would not take part in euthanasia.
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    thanx amelia and scorps! and yes over a year ago another pet of mine died - Chewy my pet parrot.

    A couple of yrs ago, a close relative of mine was hospitalized after a long battle with a deadly disease. His parents were informed that both his lungs had collapsed and he was hooked up to so many machines. The doctors advised his parents to 'pull the plug' as they say that he was being fed quite a bit of medication so as not to get too much pain. He was not able to talk to us becos of the tubes coming out of his mouth. He was conscious and seems to understood us when we spoke he'd just lay there and cry. No one cld bring themselves to even consider pulling the plug on him. He eventually died abt two weeks later. He was 28.

    What if it ws your brother, father or son?
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    Default Re: Euthanasia anyone?

    It is ultimately up to a family member but if I know they are in pain, I would support the idea.
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    Default Re: Euthanasia anyone?

    i've always been vehemently opposed to euthanasia. i believe in the sanctity of life. while i understand the arguments in favour of the living will, i cannot in good conscience ASSIST someone in this regard.

    in sort, my answer is no.
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    I am afraid we are confusing being terminally ill but 'functional', to being clinically dead bar the machines

    I am loathe to say switching off a machine which is doing ventilation and perfusion and dialysis for someone's lungs, heart, kidneys, is euthanasia.

    We are talking about end stage terminal cancer, advanced parkinsons, mad cow, etc.
    A couple weeks ago a woman in the UK went to Zurich's (Dignitas?) suicide clinic and her husband who was 80something but healthy was also euthanised because he couldnt bear the thought of living without her. That is where we begin to get grey.

    If you're not talking about that then I beg your pardon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alieninthecaribbean
    I have it in my living will not to be kept alive using extraordinary means.
    Not only do i have that clause, i have a card directing my body parts to be donated. They would not serve me in the after life. As a mater of fact my friend FALCON'S part are of very little use to him, and he is still alive. I guess they will have no value after his demise. Ah wouldn't even mention my good friend MR.BIGZACK. I can't picture myself with a part (not that part,his own doesn't work, and mine is bigger than his anyway)from MR.BIGZACK. Just the thought of it makes me want to ded.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lexbarker
    I don't have the guts to help someone but I would like that help if necessary. My living will says to pull the plug if my case is hopeless.
    But LEX my friend, i guess your request is being ignored,because you are as hopeless as anyone can get. Ah couldn't resist that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mammadon
    Quote Originally Posted by vaio
    Do you think you wld be able to do this or assist someone in doing this?

    Yes, it's called being human, since i don't like seeing people suffer. The arguments against euthanasia don't make sense anyhow.
    What are your view on this and do you think it shld be legal here?
    Trinidad is too conservative.
    That would only kill off some ah dem rich people. If dey legalize euthanasia in T&T, dey may as well grant every citizen a permit to carry a gun.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vaio
    thanx amelia and scorps! and yes over a year ago another pet of mine died - Chewy my pet parrot.

    A couple of yrs ago, a close relative of mine was hospitalized after a long battle with a deadly disease. His parents were informed that both his lungs had collapsed and he was hooked up to so many machines. The doctors advised his parents to 'pull the plug' as they say that he was being fed quite a bit of medication so as not to get too much pain. He was not able to talk to us becos of the tubes coming out of his mouth. He was conscious and seems to understood us when we spoke he'd just lay there and cry. No one cld bring themselves to even consider pulling the plug on him. He eventually died abt two weeks later. He was 28.

    What if it ws your brother, father or son?
    I would pull the plug in a heartbeat. As a matter of fact, in 2005, the doctors in T&T wanted to operate on my 98 year-old father. I told them "over my dead body". I couldn't believe i was hearing correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvestter
    i've always been vehemently opposed to euthanasia. i believe in the sanctity of life. while i understand the arguments in favour of the living will, i cannot in good conscience ASSIST someone in this regard.

    in sort, my answer is no.
    SYLVESTTER my friend, have you ever seen someone who is really suffering. I have seen my father-in-law, with cancer, and a young man with aids. It takes a devastating toll on the family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancerboy
    Quote Originally Posted by lexbarker
    I don't have the guts to help someone but I would like that help if necessary. My living will says to pull the plug if my case is hopeless.
    But LEX my friend, i guess your request is being ignored,because you are as hopeless as anyone can get. Ah couldn't resist that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon
    I am afraid we are confusing being terminally ill but 'functional', to being clinically dead bar the machines
    Nah, I'm talking about both. The second one goes without saying, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancerboy
    Quote Originally Posted by sylvestter
    i've always been vehemently opposed to euthanasia. i believe in the sanctity of life. while i understand the arguments in favour of the living will, i cannot in good conscience ASSIST someone in this regard.

    in sort, my answer is no.
    SYLVESTTER my friend, have you ever seen someone who is really suffering. I have seen my father-in-law, with cancer, and a young man with aids. It takes a devastating toll on the family.

    DANCERBOY
    yeah, and it's heartbreaking, but would you willingly assist them to die? i do not have the conscience nor constitution to do such a thing...
    i feel so high, like if i could fly...


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    Default Re: Euthanasia anyone?

    Being kept alive by life support only: Your body is unable to independently live. Under "natural" circumstances you would be dead.

    No conflict of of conscience there for me at all to pull the plug or have the plug pulled on me.


    Terminally ill, in excrutiating pain, unable to do anything, no chance of recovery and all that is left is a slow death. Under natural circumstances you will be alive until your disease painfully terminates your life.

    Here is where there may be slight conflict of conscience for me to do it to another person. However if it were me, I'd have no conflict over ending my own suffering and I think I would be clever enough to find a way to do so without implicating someone else's deliberate effort.

    But I have no authority ethically nor spiritually to end the life of another human being, unless it is a danger to my own person (self-defense) or by natural law, it is already as good as dead (natural inevitability).

    That principle also applies to how I view abortion.

    Once a human being has been fully formed in the womb, his or her life should not be taken unless the mother is going to suffer damage or death (self-defense) or the baby is so badly impaired it is going to die anyway (natural inevitability).

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    So then euthanasia for terminally ill? No way.

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