Taking a Carnival wine on your child ..

[mammadon]

Poser, you didnt tell me what a wine means. What is the person trying to 'say' when they rub their genitalia on you through their and your clothes. It's a simple question.........what does it mean?

Then, why ask such a question as in the lead post? If you want to play with fire, then don't complain about getting burnt.

I think it's done for two reasons. Just for fun, and to rub up against somebody one finds attractive.

I think in that sense, especially the latter, the adult wining on a child is warped in the head.

[mammadon]

I would say also that a 10 year old shouldn't be near adult fetes or carnival activities. The average fete should be adults only, period. I'd feel frankly odd going to a fete, drinking, old talking, wining and seeing a child there.

[SocaSim]

I do agree with mammadon. As a seasoned masquerader myself, when I'm on the road playin ah mas, I come across mmmaannyyy cherran. I do maintain a level of boundaries and who I teef ah wine from. Cheran, especially small ones, I only take pics with. Older cherran 7-17yrs, take pics only. Over 21yrs, I teefin ah wine!

[snowbird]

....and there in lies the problem......for some reason it is.....ASSUMED....that as long as the other person is 'over age of majority'...that it is O.K. to go 'wine up' on them....and it isn't

just like it is WRONG to act in a lewd manner to or with children..... in the name of Carnival...... it is also wrong to assume that just becaue it is Carnival you can go .....wine-up ...on anyone you feel like.

Not sure how the bands or masqueraders in T&T approach this 'expectation'....but here in Canada..... one of the things the band leaders/section leaders do (in some bands anyway)..... is to include in their text of instructions they give to their revellers.... a reminder that not everyone wants to participate in wining.... and for this reason.... do not ....'harass' your fellow revellers

.... The 'Band Marshalls' are also charged with the responsibility to 'police' any unwelcome behavoir (drunkeness, uninvited wining)......

If you 'set some standards' and establish some boundries...... generally the people will comply.

[Falcon]

standards for wining?


Lord put ah han

[snowbird]

^^^

No......not for wining Falcs...... ah realize some Trinis kar go widout dey wine..... 'standards' would be for......when, where, and with who...... not this free for all that is now taking palce.

Right now I think it is disgusting that the masqueraders busy bussin dey wine (and sometimes you have to wonder if they haven't gone to the next level) .....right there in front of the little children. Is it any wonder you see the children acting in the same way (as in that video we saw here on the fourm).

[sweetnezz]

What about ppl wining on somebody else man/woman, with that person right there? Disrespect? Or they simply taking a wine?

[snowbird]

Let's just say....one man's right to 'cultural expression'..... is another man's ....disrespect.....

Different strokes for different folks....but judging by the extent of 'wining' going on at carnival..... I would say.... most Trinis have determined it is a..... cultural expression.


...But then again....that goes for anything in T&T that is done in bad taste.... if it is done often enough... it is justified by.....
"WE LIKE IT SO"

[vaio]

What about ppl wining on somebody else man/woman, with that person right there? Disrespect? Or they simply taking a wine?

Some people consider that to be acceptable but I think it's very disrespectful!

[sweetnezz]

Some people consider that to be acceptable but I think it's very disrespectful!

Somebody did that to me last Caribana at a Machel fete... Waye...pressure....she had meh husband back up on the fence, he almost fall over.....I find it was in very poor taste....

[vaio]

Somebody did that to me last Caribana at a Machel fete... Waye...pressure....she had meh husband back up on the fence, he almost fall over.....I find it was in very poor taste....

i hope he ent wine back eh, cos is clout for he tail

[snowbird]

Somebody did that to me last Caribana at a Machel fete... Waye...pressure....she had meh husband back up on the fence, he almost fall over.....I find it was in very poor taste....

See why ah doz pick meh fetes ..... later fer Machel an dem big venue... jump an wine

....Me? I sticking tuh meh little ....'by invitation only'... boat ride an small club....ting

dem people kno how tuh.....behave

[vaio]

See why ah doz pick meh fetes ..... later fer Machel an dem big venue... jump an wine

....Me? I sticking tuh meh little ....'by invitation only'... boat ride an small club....ting

dem people kno how tuh.....behave

that sounding more like english tea party than fete

[letric]

....and there in lies the problem......for some reason it is.....ASSUMED....that as long as the other person is 'over age of majority'...that it is O.K. to go 'wine up' on them....and it isn't

just like it is WRONG to act in a lewd manner to or with children..... in the name of Carnival...... it is also wrong to assume that just becaue it is Carnival you can go .....wine-up ...on anyone you feel like.

Not sure how the bands or masqueraders in T&T approach this 'expectation'....but here in Canada..... one of the things the band leaders/section leaders do (in some bands anyway)..... is to include in their text of instructions they give to their revellers.... a reminder that not everyone wants to participate in wining.... and for this reason.... do not ....'harass' your fellow revellers

.... The 'Band Marshalls' are also charged with the responsibility to 'police' any unwelcome behavoir (drunkeness, uninvited wining)......

If you 'set some standards' and establish some boundries...... generally the people will comply.

Are you serious?

[snowbird]

Are you serious?

Yuh mean dem Marshalls patrolling.... yeh.

Whea yuh tink dey get de idea from?

Boy back in de day...in dem big arse sailor bands in T&T....dem usta have ....MP's

..while it was nice costumes....and dem little 'bootoo' dey carrying usat look nice....dem fellas had ah job...'tuh keep de revellers in dey band in line'.....dem job was to make sure none ah dey players were ..... straggling behind the band.... or if dey drunk dat dey eh harassing no body.... dey also had to 'break up fight'.

Ah remember one time ah drunken sailor come up tuh meh aunty...jus wen he about tuh lay hand on she.... ah MP from he own band....grab him and give him one shove right back in de band....all de MP say tuh meh aunty was...."Sorry Mam, he drunk".

[letric]

Yuh mean dem Marshalls patrolling.... yeh.

Whea yuh tink dey get de idea from?

Boy back in de day...in dem big arse sailor bands in T&T....dem usta have ....MP's

..while it was nice costumes....and dem little 'bootoo' dey carrying usat look nice....dem fellas had ah job...'tuh keep de revellers in dey band in line'.....dem job was to make sure none ah dey players were ..... straggling behind the band.... or if dey drunk dat dey eh harassing no body.... dey also had to 'break up fight'.

Ah remember one time ah drunken sailor come up tuh meh aunty...jus wen he about tuh lay hand on she.... ah MP from he own band....grab him and give him one shove right back in de band....all de MP say tuh meh aunty was...."Sorry Mam, he drunk".

Thank you for reminding me ...

[snowbird]

that sounding more like english tea party than fete

well if you attribute people being respectful of each other ..... then yes.... I guess some of us did learn something from the English

[letric]

well if you attribute people being respectful of each other ..... then yes.... I guess some of us did learn something from the English

Definitely ...Good breeding consists in concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person.

[Falcon]

Letric, dont start sounding like these guys eh





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-rich-are.html

[miktay]

Let's just say....one man's right to 'cultural expression'..... is another man's ....disrespect.....

Different strokes for different folks....but judging by the extent of 'wining' going on at carnival..... I would say.... most Trinis have determined it is a..... cultural expression.


...But then again....that goes for anything in T&T that is done in bad taste.... if it is done often enough... it is justified by.....
"WE LIKE IT SO"

Who determines heather itz in 'bad taste'?

[snowbird]

Who determines heather itz in 'bad taste'?

(with pinky outstretched)

the person it offends..... obviously!!!

...Those not offended are simply too shallow..... or classless to see the tastelessness of the action

[letric]

Letric, dont start sounding like these guys eh





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-rich-are.html

Falcon, I hear you ...