Professor Deosaran vs Commissioner Gibbs

[roger]

　
I thought Professor Deosaran was responsible for doing a report on the Commissioner of Police since the end of August last year. There was the hope that this report would have rid this Country of the scourge of Commissioner Gibbs.
　
Under the last PNM Government when a new Commissioner of Police was to be appointed I recall that the names of Stephen Williams and James Philbert came up. Many, I am sure, like myself then looked forward to having Stephen Williams as Commissioner because of his superior academic qualifications and hence assumed competence for the job.
　
Nevertheless, James Philbert was chosen and the then Prime Minister Patrick Manning gave the reasons. He said that in the interview both men were asked if they would uphold the law at all times or be willing to bend the rules to save life and limb. Williams effectively said that he will uphold the law and let the chips fall where they may. He was rejected. Philbert on the other hand said (my version) that he will bend the rules to save his partner so he was chosen.
　
The Country therefore continued under Philbert to suffer the scourge of white-collar crime, having its wealth stolen by the white color European underworld, and the resulting scourge of murders.
　
We now have the People's Partnership in Government. Unfortunately they too have hitherto continued to reject Williams but this time in favor of someone evidently directly from the European underworld itself in Commissioner Gibbs. This Gibbs, in my view, has said and done enough from the very start of his stint in office to show his true colors. If therefore Professor Deosaran is unable or afraid to condemn this man my view is that he himself must be fired.
　
The way I see it Commissioner Gibbs must first answer charges as to:

(i) why he failed, up to the due time of his assessment in August of last year, to decimate the murder rate in Trinidad and Tobago?
　
(ii) why he sought to make excuse for his Department's evident deliberate neglect in dealing with crime at any level in this Country? He sleazily passed responsibility to the public by asking us to render solutions to crime and to assist in crime detection to our peril the job for which he is paid, and at that, above his boss the Minister of National Security and even the Prime Minister.
　
(iii) why he covertly protects criminals at all levels small and great by publicly warning citizens against defending themselves against violent attacks? This the Commissioner did following an incident in which one man drove his car into two cutlass weilding bandits in the South who had just chopped up the man's son in law I think it was.

He also clearly took steps to protect the big fish criminals by sneaking out to Brazil at the start of the State of Emergency last year. He evidently went there to cover the tracks of the Brazilian Contractor for the Pt Fortin Highway Project. By that Contract, I understand, the Company hopes to take away spoils stolen from the Trinidad and Tobago economy in excess of TT$5 billion. Those spoils will be destined to Europe's underworld FIFA. The public needs an update on that Project.
　
If Professor Deosaran cannot bring in a report to nail this criminal I say that Professor Deosaran must go!
　
Commissioner Gibbs himself must face serious charges in this Country based on the above before being evicted from here, in my view.
　
　
Roger

[snowbird]

.... There was the hope that this report would have rid this Country of the scourge of Commissioner Gibbs.....


Just based on this ^^^ 'objective statement'......think I'll pass on this thread.... Wheew!!!

[edyle]

Nevertheless, James Philbert was chosen and the then Prime Minister Patrick Manning gave the reasons. He said that in the interview both men were asked if they would uphold the law at all times or be willing to bend the rules to save life and limb. Williams effectively said that he will uphold the law and let the chips fall where they may. He was rejected. Philbert on the other hand said (my version) that he will bend the rules to save his partner so he was chosen.

Can you point me to anything to back that up?

[roger]

.... There was the hope that this report would have rid this Country of the scourge of Commissioner Gibbs.....


Just based on this ^^^ 'objective statement'......think I'll pass on this thread.... Wheew!!!

*** Ok. Mine is the duty to write, yours the privilege to read or not to read.


Roger

[roger]

Can you point me to anything to back that up?

*** I had said in the previous paragraph that I was speaking from recall. So if you are not one of them and if you can get there before they do to sanitize those reports and check out the news reports of that time (I believe I saw it on the tv news) then you should be able to verify my claims.


Roger

[Redman]

　
I thought Professor Deosaran was responsible for doing a report on the Commissioner of Police since the end of August last year. There was the hope that this report would have rid this Country of the scourge of Commissioner Gibbs.
　
Under the last PNM Government when a new Commissioner of Police was to be appointed I recall that the names of Stephen Williams and James Philbert came up. Many, I am sure, like myself then looked forward to having Stephen Williams as Commissioner because of his superior academic qualifications and hence assumed competence for the job.
　
Nevertheless, James Philbert was chosen and the then Prime Minister Patrick Manning gave the reasons. He said that in the interview both men were asked if they would uphold the law at all times or be willing to bend the rules to save life and limb. Williams effectively said that he will uphold the law and let the chips fall where they may. He was rejected. Philbert on the other hand said (my version) that he will bend the rules to save his partner so he was chosen.
　
The Country therefore continued under Philbert to suffer the scourge of white-collar crime, having its wealth stolen by the white color European underworld, and the resulting scourge of murders.
　
We now have the People's Partnership in Government. Unfortunately they too have hitherto continued to reject Williams but this time in favor of someone evidently directly from the European underworld itself in Commissioner Gibbs. This Gibbs, in my view, has said and done enough from the very start of his stint in office to show his true colors. If therefore Professor Deosaran is unable or afraid to condemn this man my view is that he himself must be fired.
　
The way I see it Commissioner Gibbs must first answer charges as to:

(i) why he failed, up to the due time of his assessment in August of last year, to decimate the murder rate in Trinidad and Tobago?
　
(ii) why he sought to make excuse for his Department's evident deliberate neglect in dealing with crime at any level in this Country? He sleazily passed responsibility to the public by asking us to render solutions to crime and to assist in crime detection to our peril the job for which he is paid, and at that, above his boss the Minister of National Security and even the Prime Minister.
　
(iii) why he covertly protects criminals at all levels small and great by publicly warning citizens against defending themselves against violent attacks? This the Commissioner did following an incident in which one man drove his car into two cutlass weilding bandits in the South who had just chopped up the man's son in law I think it was.

He also clearly took steps to protect the big fish criminals by sneaking out to Brazil at the start of the State of Emergency last year. He evidently went there to cover the tracks of the Brazilian Contractor for the Pt Fortin Highway Project. By that Contract, I understand, the Company hopes to take away spoils stolen from the Trinidad and Tobago economy in excess of TT$5 billion. Those spoils will be destined to Europe's underworld FIFA. The public needs an update on that Project.
　
If Professor Deosaran cannot bring in a report to nail this criminal I say that Professor Deosaran must go!
　
Commissioner Gibbs himself must face serious charges in this Country based on the above before being evicted from here, in my view.
　
　
Roger

your view is patently biased, and uninformed.

Later

[roger]

Redman says:

your view is patently biased, and uninformed. Later

*** Can you point out from the statements I have made what has caused you to come to this conclusion?


Roger

[roger]

Just for the records: shortly after starting this thread my private WordPad file containing the opening post and hundreds of other articles, including other articles on Commissioner Gibbs, was blanketed over with backslashes so that those articles are no longer available.
　
Roger

[snowbird]

^^^ Yeh right

Roger boy.....good attempt at giving Trinis what dey like..... bacchanal, callaloo, and propaganda...it makes for great......'entertainment' ....too bad you are in competition with ..... the media

[bigzack]

Ah tired write this, but I will never stop writing it.

The way I see it Commissioner Gibbs must first answer charges as to:

(i) why he failed, up to the due time of his assessment in August of last year, to decimate the murder rate in Trinidad and Tobago?

If you, or anyone believe that Gibbs was hired to "decimate the murder rate", when he came from a Police Department that panicked one year when they had 30 murders, and brought in a Police Chief from Toronto to improve the Police Department, then I cannot make sense to you.

Gibbs was hired to make some much needed improvements in the TTPS service. I could have hired a former master patrol officer from the Boston PD to improve the way our officers patrol (if they actually patrol with any efficiency). I could have hired an officer from the NYPD who has decades of experience in fighting organized and street gangs. There is little that they could have done to "decimate the murder rate" in Trinidad and Tobago.

We have some messed up laws, and a totally inefficient judicial system that needs fixing more than the entity that Gibbs was entrusted to fix.

Gibbsy just see a bunch of fools with money and no sense, so he and Ewatski put down dey 3 card table.

I cyar blame them for that.

[roger]

^^^ Yeh right Roger boy.....good attempt at giving Trinis what dey like..... bacchanal, callaloo, and propaganda...it makes for great......'entertainment' ....too bad you are in competition with ..... the media

*** By this and your earlier responses you now seem to have something to do with the culprit that hacked into and corrupted my file. In fact I was in the process of responding to your first post when I went to that file for some back up information. That is when the whole set of backslashes appeared over the articles.


Roger

[roger]

Gibbs was hired to make some much needed improvements in the TTPS service.

　
*** With the view of?

Our problem is a high murder rate for which we sought a specialist. He could not deal with 30 murders in Canada but he is hired here "...to make some much needed improvements in the TTPS service".

Did those improvements include strategies for reducing murders? If not, why did we need him in our predicament? To teach police officers how to shave, maintain a clean cut and march?
　

I could have hired a former master patrol officer from the Boston PD to improve the way our officers patrol (if they actually patrol with any efficiency). I could have hired an officer from the NYPD who has decades of experience in fighting organized and street gangs. There is little that they could have done to "decimate the murder rate" in Trinidad and Tobago
.

*** Then why even consider hiring them to our police service when the issue facing us is the high murder rate in the Country?
　
　
Roger

[bigzack]

There is not a police chief, nor a police department in this world, acting alone, that has successfully implemented policies and strategies to curb the high incidence of gang murders, wherever it has existed.

If there is any, I want to know, because I have not heard of any.

Our high murder rate stems from gang activity, and the gangster lifestyle that a lot of youths live and embrace.

Gibbs was not hired to be a baby sitter.

His job primarily is to get the TTPS to institute an efficient and effective way of patrolling the streets of Trinidad and Tobago, especially the highways.
His job is to get the police service to investigate crimes and follow up on them in a timely and professional manner.
His job is to institute procedures to deal with the high incidence of corruption in the TTPS, and to minimize it, so that it does not impact greatly on our high incidence of crime.
His job is to get rid of the station diary.
His job is to stop citizens from having to physically go to a police station to make a report.
His job is to ensure that when a citizen calls in a complaint, depending on the seriousness of the report, a police officer should be on the scene within an expected, and measurable time frame.
His job is to ensure that a citizen that need police assistance will never again here the words: "We have no car at this time madam".

Mr. Gibbs last two jobs in the Edmonton Police Department was Personnel Director, and before that, he was Superintendent of the gang intelligence unit.

Neither of these two jobs has a direct correlation to "decimating the murder rate" in any given area.

In fact, I am willing to bet that Gibbs probably never investigated a murder in his entire career in the Edmonton PD.

I always listen to you when you post about engineering subjects.

Please listen to me when I post about a subject that I have spent some time working with -- LAW ENFORCEMENT.

I don't know about you, but I am not an expert on EVERY subject.

That is the reason why I love this board. There are people here who are wiling to share their experiences in things they have experience.

Sacky boy, who does make the smoothest babash in Paramin?

[Redman]

Redman says:

*** Can you point out from the statements I have made what has caused you to come to this conclusion?


Roger

Happy to Help.

I thought Professor Deosaran was responsible for doing a report on the Commissioner of Police since the end of August last year. There was the hope that this report would have rid this Country of the scourge of Commissioner Gibbs.
　
Under the last PNM Government when a new Commissioner of Police was to be appointed I recall that the names of Stephen Williams and James Philbert came up. Many, I am sure, like myself then looked forward to having Stephen Williams as Commissioner because of his superior academic qualifications and hence assumed competence for the job.
　
Nevertheless, James Philbert was chosen and the then Prime Minister Patrick Manning gave the reasons. He said that in the interview both men were asked if they would uphold the law at all times or be willing to bend the rules to save life and limb. Williams effectively said that he will uphold the law and let the chips fall where they may. He was rejected. Philbert on the other hand said (my version) that he will bend the rules to save his partner so he was chosen.
　
The Country therefore continued under Philbert to suffer the scourge of white-collar crime, having its wealth stolen by the white color European underworld, and the resulting scourge of murders.
　
We now have the People's Partnership in Government. Unfortunately they too have hitherto continued to reject Williams but this time in favor of someone evidently directly from the European underworld itself in Commissioner Gibbs. This Gibbs, in my view, has said and done enough from the very start of his stint in office to show his true colors. If therefore Professor Deosaran is unable or afraid to condemn this man my view is that he himself must be fired.
　
The way I see it Commissioner Gibbs must first answer charges as to:

(i) why he failed, up to the due time of his assessment in August of last year, to decimate the murder rate in Trinidad and Tobago?
　
(ii) why he sought to make excuse for his Department's evident deliberate neglect in dealing with crime at any level in this Country? He sleazily passed responsibility to the public by asking us to render solutions to crime and to assist in crime detection to our peril the job for which he is paid, and at that, above his boss the Minister of National Security and even the Prime Minister.
　
(iii) why he covertly protects criminals at all levels small and great by publicly warning citizens against defending themselves against violent attacks? This the Commissioner did following an incident in which one man drove his car into two cutlass weilding bandits in the South who had just chopped up the man's son in law I think it was.

He also clearly took steps to protect the big fish criminals by sneaking out to Brazil at the start of the State of Emergency last year. He evidently went there to cover the tracks of the Brazilian Contractor for the Pt Fortin Highway Project. By that Contract, I understand, the Company hopes to take away spoils stolen from the Trinidad and Tobago economy in excess of TT$5 billion. Those spoils will be destined to Europe's underworld FIFA. The public needs an update on that Project.
　
If Professor Deosaran cannot bring in a report to nail this criminal I say that Professor Deosaran must go!
　
Commissioner Gibbs himself must face serious charges in this Country based on the above before being evicted from here, in my view.

Later

[roger]

Gibbs was not hired to be a baby sitter. His job primarily is to get the TTPS to institute an efficient and effective way of patrolling the streets of Trinidad and Tobago, especially the highways.
His job is to get the police service to investigate crimes and follow up on them in a timely and professional manner.
His job is to institute procedures to deal with the high incidence of corruption in the TTPS, and to minimize it, so that it does not impact greatly on our high incidence of crime.
His job is to get rid of the station diary.
His job is to stop citizens from having to physically go to a police station to make a report.
His job is to ensure that when a citizen calls in a complaint, depending on the seriousness of the report, a police officer should be on the scene within an expected, and measurable time frame.
His job is to ensure that a citizen that need police assistance will never again here the words: "We have no car at this time madam".

　
*** Seems to me that you know enough to have done a better job than Gibbs has in the last 15 months.

　

Our high murder rate stems from gang activity, and the gangster lifestyle that a lot of youths live and embrace.

*** Ok. That's your view. My view is that the high murder rate is necessary to balance an economic equation: demand for foreign goods is increasing with the increasing population but on the supply side real foreign earnings from oil and gas is not. Therefore in order to keep the TT$ from sliding like it used to before it was floated they kill off demand by bullet to the head serial killings of 500 per year.


Roger

[roger]

Redman, I anticipated that reply that is why I carefully worded my question as

***Can you point out from the statements I have made what has caused you to come to this conclusion?

.

But you still went ahead and tried to pull a 'solomon sun kow' on me.


Roger

[guyguy]

　
*** Seems to me that you know enough to have done a better job than Gibbs has in the last 15 months.

bigzack should be the COP but he too damn lazy to apply for the job. He have de knowledge, experience, ideals, and temperament to do ah damn good job too.

　

*** Ok. That's your view. My view is that the high murder rate is necessary to balance an economic equation: demand for foreign goods is increasing with the increasing population but on the supply side real foreign earnings from oil and gas is not. Therefore in order to keep the TT$ from sliding like it used to before it was floated they kill off demand by bullet to the head serial killings of 500 per year.


Roger

I don't understand this type of economics Roger. Can you expound on how killing off less than one-tenth of 1% of the population balances the economic equation? You may have hit on a new economic theory that is far advanced than Keynesian, Turgot, and even as far back as those of the Austrian school of economic thought. I'm very interested in learning more.

[bigzack]

bigzack should be the COP but he too damn lazy to apply for the job. He have de knowledge, experience, ideals, and temperament to do ah damn good job too.

I good wey I is.

[guyguy]

I good wey I is.

See wat ah mean? (blasted lazy forrinas).

[roger]

I don't understand this type of economics Roger. Can you expound on how killing off less than one-tenth of 1% of the population balances the economic equation? You may have hit on a new economic theory that is far advanced than Keynesian, Turgot, and even as far back as those of the Austrian school of economic thought. I'm very interested in learning more.

　
*** Good question Guyguy.
　
Firstly, their objective is not to obliterate demand for foreign goods altogether seeing that there is annual foreign exchange earnings to satisfy some level of annual demand. It is the annual increase in demand brought on by an increase in population of some 20,000 each year that they are interested in controlling. The 500 therefore represents about 2.5 percent of the increased population whose demand for foreign goods the architects of our economy are trying to curtail.
　
So the demand I refer to in that post is for foreign goods and services since such demand is clearly what directly affects the exchange rate of the TT$.
　
Further, in simplifying the analysis I am looking at cars as the most expensive by far foreign item a local will purchase in his lifetime. In addition, this demand for cars lies mainly among males within the age group of say 18 years to 40 years of age since younger than 18 year olds are not licenced to drive and over 40 year olds would more or less already own their vehicles if ever they will own one. Fewer women than men drive.
　
So then, in the simplified model I use here the demand for foreign exchange is for the most part demand for vehicles which in turn is for the most part a demand of men between the ages of 18 to 40 years of age.
　
It then follows that killing out 500 males per year from the lowest income bracket might make a bigger immediate dent in the demand for foreign exchange than say aborting 10,000 of the 20,000 or so babies that are born each year: babies whose demand for foreign goods is near zero. The same applies if the target group of between 18 - 40 years is compared with larger numbers of any other age group of the population of this Country.
　
This then is my view of how killing off say 2.5 percent of the annual increase in population of locals stymies annual increase in demand of the population for foreign goods.
　
　
Roger

[Redman]

There was the hope that this report would have rid this Country of the scourge of Commissioner Gibbs.

Biased

He also clearly took steps to protect the big fish criminals by sneaking out to Brazil at the start of the State of Emergency last year. He evidently went there to cover the tracks of the Brazilian Contractor for the Pt Fortin Highway Project.

Generally your post is simply Anti Gibbs-which is fine-if you had anything more than your obviously biased and misinformed opinion.

The Brazil trip was planned by TTPS and was not a Gibbs initiative.And if it is that OAS was the beneficiary then Gibbs visa issue would not have existed.

And why would they need a COP to deal with that.??


To connect the dots in your manner is ludicrous and transparent conjecture bordering on libel


As to the um economic theory youve posted -well hmm do you have any evidence as to the purchasing power,the actual amount of cars that either the murdered or that group buys??

This then is my view of how killing off say 2.5 percent of the annual increase in population of locals stymies annual increase in demand of the population for foreign goods.
　

The view is really arcane and seemingly uninformed since World Bank and CIA have our population growth at slightly negative numbers.

http://www.google.tt/publicdata/expl...rowth+trinidad

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/td.html



No need to let real data interrupt your conjecture.

Biased and Uninformed

Later

[edyle]

Biased
Generally your post is simply Anti Gibbs-which is fine-if you had anything more than your obviously biased and misinformed opinion.
The Brazil trip was planned by TTPS and was not a Gibbs initiative.And if it is that OAS was the beneficiary then Gibbs visa issue would not have existed.
And why would they need a COP to deal with that.??

To connect the dots in your manner is ludicrous and transparent conjecture bordering on libel
As to the um economic theory youve posted -well hmm do you have any evidence as to the purchasing power,the actual amount of cars that either the murdered or that group buys??

The view is really arcane and seemingly uninformed since World Bank and CIA have our population growth at slightly negative numbers.

http://www.google.tt/publicdata/expl...rowth+trinidad

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/td.html

No need to let real data interrupt your conjecture.
Biased and Uninformed
Later

I was going to say psychopathic.

[snowbird]

*** By this and your earlier responses you now seem to have something to do with the culprit that hacked into and corrupted my file. In fact I was in the process of responding to your first post when I went to that file for some back up information. That is when the whole set of backslashes appeared over the articles.

Roger

....Oh gorm Roger yuh obviously eh kno who yuh torkin bout......

yuh givin meh waaaaaay too much credit fer meh .... technical ability


as a matter ah fact.....ah know it hav anodder forumite who readin yuh àccusation`and laughin he belly off..... sayin.....
``Snow....Roger got tuh be kiddin..... eider dat or he really he kno she `capabilities`....or lack thereof`

Rog.... yuh well cute wen dey ketch yuh in ah lie

[roger]

Redman says:

There was the hope that this report would have rid this Country of the scourge of Commissioner Gibbs.
Biased

*** There you go for a fourth time: you are like my late father's Vauxhall 102 vehicle. Many times we had to push that car to kick start it, and much of the time it only got as far as we pushed it, that is, it did not start.
You only go as far as I push you. For the third time my question was "***Can you point out from the statements I have made what has caused you to come to this conclusion?"
So you don't just quote the statement with which you have an issue then draw a conclusion as you have done here. You need to point out "...what has caused you to come to this conclusion", that is, some analysis of my statement is required or some reason as to why you arrive at your conclusion.
Is that too much to ask of you? I cannot make a proper response to your allegation of "biased".
　
　

He also clearly took steps to protect the big fish criminals by sneaking out to Brazil at the start of the State of Emergency last year. He evidently went there to cover the tracks of the Brazilian Contractor for the Pt Fortin Highway Project.
Generally your post is simply Anti Gibbs-which is fine-if you had anything more than your obviously biased and misinformed opinion.

　
*** So the fact that:-
　
(i) Gibbs left the Country at the start of the SOE, and despite attemtps to determine his whereabouts of the Prime Minister and Police service his whereabouts were kept secret for a few days, to your mind is not fact but all just my "biased and misinformed opinion"?
　
(ii) a Brazilian Company is doing that Pt Fortin Highway Project, Brazil hosts the next FIFA World cup 2014, Jack Warner awarded the Contract to the Company, Warner still earns a pension from FIFA probably bigger than Gibbs' salary suggesting that he still has unfinished business with FIFA, the feasibility study done by MMM Group of Canada reveals that that 27 miles of highway should cost no more than TT2.1 billion, my own rough independent conservative overestimate says that that 27 miles of highway should be no more than TT$2.6 billion, Jack Warner is paying $TT7.2 billion from the Trinidad and Tobago Treasury for the project, to your mind altogether do not suggest that Point Fortin is a money laundering project but rather that my assertion that it is is all " biased and misinformed opinion"?
　
Further, the fact that this 'mark buss' on 10 th August last year, Chuck Blazer, Jack's nemesis was confronted by the FBI a few days after, the PM who was implicated in the scandal by the mark bussing thread on this website contracted dengue, proceeded to run the Cabinet from her home, met with Gibbs there, called an SOE, Gibbs secretly leaves for Brazil to meet with FBI colleagues there, to your mind are all not facts connectable to paint the clear picture that Gibbs mission to Brazil was to cover the tracks of the Brazilian company and hence FIFA but are nothing more than my "obviously biased and misinformed opinion"?
　
Well my answer to your yes tothe above is that your mind as expected evidently leaves much to be desired. Its logical powers are defective. It is governed purely by will not truth or facts. You decide based on what you want to believe not on what is right or wrong.

The Brazil trip was planned by TTPS and was not a Gibbs initiative.And if it is that OAS was the beneficiary then Gibbs visa issue would not have existed.

　
*** So the tail is wagging the dog: Gibbs is top Cop but the TTPS has to decide where he goes or does not go.
　
Further whoever said that the OAS was beneficiary: they are stealing TT$5 billion from T and T then they will most probably, to your delight, go to the largely negro Brazil, invest the TT$5 billion in stadiums there and in the process steal the equivalent of TT$15 billion more from that Country.
　
Next, the VISA issue in my view might have just been a tactic to give Gibbs reason to be detained in Brazil and so not have to account to T and T for that time he spent there which time he used for his own business of meeting with his FBI underworld colleagues.

And why would they need a COP to deal with that.??

　
*** Exactly, dealing with OAS business was not what Gibbs was about but meeting with the FBI for the above stated purpose in my view.

To connect the dots in your manner is ludicrous and transparent conjecture bordering on libel

　
*** You might now see this position of yours in a different light in view of all that is said above.



　
Roger

[roger]

Redman says I respond:

As to the um economic theory youve posted -well hmm do you have any evidence as to the purchasing power,the actual amount of cars that either the murdered or that group buys??

　
*** The purchasing power or actual amount of cars the murdered actually buy does not upset what I have said in the least. Now just to mention here that I do not wish to make this new issue a topic of discussion in this thread: this thread deals with Deosaran vs Gibbs not "killing 500 to solve an economic equation".
　
I only made passing mention of the topic without treating the subject matter comprehensively ( my fault). This leaves plenty of room for wrong speculation by readers and can lead to my having to answer questions ad infinitum. Hopefully I will open a new thread and deal with that topic in a proper manner.
　
Now back to your question, to extend on the bony model I gave may I now state that the point at which the murdered are killed is not the point at which the demand for foreign goods caused by then stops. By this I mean that the TT$5 billion that Jack is stealing on the Point Fortin Highway belongs to them (oh gosh! don't make me have to elaborate to say it belongs to all of us including them etc, ok?).
　
They therefore at the lowest end of the economic scale are owed permanent employment by the State according to the principles of social justice mandated by the Supreme law of the land, the Constitution. They should then all maybe well in excess of 20,000 of them be immediately employed in permanent jobs with starting wages/ salaries of TT$ 5,000 per month average, in my view. The TT$5 billion will foot that bill initially for the next four years or so.
　
So the fact that they are out of a job or workong CEPEP earning less than one quarter of what is due them only means that their demand for foreign exchange has already been taken away from the equation in part or wholly.
　
Executing 500 per year only makes their already zero demand for foreign goods official and permanent: they are killed off so as to not allow the Country to be completely overwhelmed with desperate, zero income earning manmade vultures.
　
Incidentally this same goes for the entire working class in Trinidad and Tobago which is now on the whole evidently grossly underpaid. I heard Minister of Finance Dokeran complain that the public service wage bill is some 19.2% I think and this is already too high. To my knowledge the manpower resource bill is seldom less than 50% of the total cost of a construction project and so I would think any other project.
　
Applying this rough figure to the Budget means that approximately 50% of the budget should go to the wage bill. Something therefore seems grossly out of sync here with this large discrepancy between 19.2% and 50% and so a more careful look at this is required.
　
But again I mention this in passing not to be discussed here. Someone else should start a thread on this and relieve me of the burden of having to do all the work in our solution finding efforts if that is what we are about.
　

This then is my view of how killing off say 2.5 percent of the annual increase in population of locals stymies annual increase in demand of the population for foreign goods.

The view is really arcane and seemingly uninformed since World Bank and CIA have our population growth at slightly negative numbers.

http://www.google.tt/publicdata/expl...rowth+trinidad

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/td.html


No need to let real data interrupt your conjecture.

*** Actual data reads:
Population growth rate:
　
-0.087% (2011 est.)country comparison to the world: 204
Birth rate:
　
14.35 births/1,000 population (2011 est.)country comparison to the world: 142
Death rate:
　
8.29 deaths/1,000 population (July 2011 est.)country comparison to the world: 90
　
What a thing, the birth rate exceeds the death rate yet the population growth rate is negative all else being equal. This just shows how trustworthy you are: you provide self conflicting data to prove your point.
　
　

Biased and Uninformed Later

　
*** In light of all the above your conclusion here is proven to be flawed. I think you should take steps to correct that.
　


Roger