aliens exist apparently

[BW]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/digitaltrend...nceofalienlife

Aliens exist, and we have proof.

That astonishingly awesome claim comes from Dr. Richard B. Hoover, an astrobiologist at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, who says he has found conclusive evidence of alien life — fossils of bacteria found in an extremely rare class of meteorite called CI1 carbonaceous chondrites. (There are only nine such meteorites on planet Earth.) Hoover’s findings were published late Friday night in the Journal of Cosmology, a peer-reviewed scientific journal.

“I interpret it as indicating that life is more broadly distributed than restricted strictly to the planet earth,” Hoover, who has spent more than 10 years studying meteorites around the world, told FoxNews.com in an interview. “This field of study has just barely been touched — because quite frankly, a great many scientist would say that this is impossible.”

Picture of alien below

[BW]

In order to satisfy the inevitable hoard of buzz-killing skeptics, Hoover’s study and evidence were made available to his peers in the scientific community in advance of the study’s publications, giving them a chance to thoroughly dissect his findings. Comments from those who decided to sift through the evidence will be published online, alongside the study.

“Given the controversial nature of his discovery, we have invited 100 experts and have issued a general invitation to over 5,000 scientists from the scientific community to review the paper and to offer their critical analysis,” writes Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics scientist Dr. Rudy Schild, who serves as the Journal of Cosmology’s editor-in-chief. “No other paper in the history of science has undergone such a thorough vetting, and never before in the history of science has the scientific community been given the opportunity to critically analyze an important research paper before it is published.”

[Falcon]

would love to see the sequence of this bug

[Randall]

Excellent!

Finally possible proof to put all the naysayers off.

The universe is probably teeming with life. (given the ratio of life to size of the universe)

I too would like to see the dna sequencing.

“The exciting thing is that they are in many cases recognizable and can be associated very closely with the generic species here on earth,” said Hoover. Some of the fossils, however, are quite odd. “There are some that are just very strange and don’t look like anything that I’ve been able to identify, and I’ve shown them to many other experts that have also come up stump.”

I'll be following the critical review of his paper closely.

“Given the controversial nature of his discovery, we have invited 100 experts and have issued a general invitation to over 5,000 scientists from the scientific community to review the paper and to offer their critical analysis,” writes Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics scientist Dr. Rudy Schild, who serves as the Journal of Cosmology’s editor-in-chief. “No other paper in the history of science has undergone such a thorough vetting, and never before in the history of science has the scientific community been given the opportunity to critically analyze an important research paper before it is published.”

Link to the journal: http://journalofcosmology.com/Life100.html

6. CONCLUSIONS

It is concluded that the complex filaments found embedded in the CI1 carbonaceous meteorites represent the remains of indigenous microfossils of cyanobacteria and other prokaryotes associated with modern and fossil prokaryotic mats. Many of the Ivuna and Orgueil filaments are isodiametric and others tapered, polarized and exhibit clearly differentiated apical and basal cells. These filaments were found in freshly fractured stones and are observed to be attached to the meteorite rock matrix in the manner of terrestrial assemblages of aquatic benthic, epipelic, and epilithic cyanobacterial communities comprised of species that grow on or in mud or clay sediments. Filamentous cyanobacteria similar in size and detailed morphology with basal heterocysts are well known in benthic cyanobacterial mats, where they attach the filament to the sediment at the interface between the liquid water and the substratum. The size, size range and complex morphological features and characteristics exhibited by these filaments render them recognizable as representatives of the filamentous Cyanobacteriaceae and associated trichomic prokaryotes commonly encountered in cyanobacterial mats. Therefore, the well-preserved mineralized trichomic filaments with carbonaceous sheaths found embedded in freshly fractured interior surfaces of the Alais, Ivuna, and Orgueil CI1 carbonaceous meteorites are interpreted as the fossilized remains of prokaryotic microorganisms that grew in liquid regimes on the parent body of the meteorites before they entered the Earth’s atmosphere.

The Energy Dispersive X-ray spectroscopy data reveals that the filaments detected in the meteorites typically exhibit external sheaths enriched in carbon infilled with minerals enriched in magnesium and sulfur. These results are interpreted as indicating that the organisms died on the parent body while aqueous fluids were present and the internal cells were replaced by epsomite and other water soluble evaporite minerals dissolved in the liquids circulating through the parent body. The nitrogen level in the meteorite filaments was almost always below the detection limit of the EDS detector (0.5% atomic). However, nitrogen is essential for all amino acids, proteins, and purine and pyrimidine nitrogen bases of the nucleotides of all life on Earth.

Extensive EDS studies of living and dead cyanobacteria and other biological materials have shown that nitrogen is detectable at levels between 2% and 18% (atomic) in cyanobacterial filaments from Vostok Ice (82 Kya) and found in stomach milk the mammoth Lyuba (40 Kya); mammoth hair/ tissue (40-32 Kya); pre-dynastic Egyptian and Peruvian mummies (5-2 Kya) and herbarium filamentous diatom sheaths (1815). However, Nitrogen is not detected in ancient biological materials such as fossil insects in Miocene Amber (8 Mya); Cambrian Trilobites from the Wheeler Shale (505 Mya) or cyanobacterial filaments from Karelia (2.7 Gya). Consequently the absence of nitrogen in the cyanobacterial filaments detected in the CI1 carbonaceous meteorites indicates that the filaments represent the remains of extraterrestrial life forms that grew on the parent bodies of the meteorites when liquid water was present, long before the meteorites entered the Earth’s atmosphere. This finding has direct implications to the distribution of life in the Cosmos and the possibility of microbial life in liquid water regimes of cometary nuclei as they travel within the orbit of Mars and in icy moons with liquid water oceans such as Europa and Enceladus.

This probably gives more credit to the Panspermia theory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia

[Sirius]

This is fantastic stuff. Now pair it up with the number of possible Earth-like worlds that Kepler is churning up and well, I don't think much else needs to be said.

[Falcon]

what about intelligent life, i.e. able to invent and travel in machines or otherwise?

Still as theoretical as before?

[amzz]

goodness! syl, u too?

[Sirius]

what about intelligent life, i.e. able to invent and travel in machines or otherwise?

Still as theoretical as before?

Anything is theoretical until proven but if this turns out to be proof of extraterrestrial life then the probability for complex life and by extension technologically advanced life will become much higher...

[kemist]

what about intelligent life, i.e. able to invent and travel in machines or otherwise?

Still as theoretical as before?

I think the possibility exists. Considering how old the universe may be, and that earth is a relatively young planet; it didn't take long for life to evolve here. There could be other earth-like, older planets in other galaxies that may have spawned intelligent life. But, without absolute proof of such, its still theoretical. The finding presented in the o.p. adds strength to that theory though.

[vaio]

WOW

[Sirius]

I think the possibility exists. Considering how old the universe may be, and that earth is a relatively young planet; it didn't take long for life to evolve here. There could be other earth-like, older planets in other galaxies that may have spawned intelligent life. But, without absolute proof of such, its still theoretical. The finding presented in the o.p. adds strength to that theory though.

The Kepler space telescope has discovered 54 candidate planets that lie in the habitable zones of their stars, 5 of which are near Earth size and the rest ranging from super-Earth size to gas giant. Of course confirmation is still to be had but considering that this is one of the first batches of data returned from Kepler and that it is observing only a small fraction of the sky, then combined with the information posted by BW and Randall it would appear that the universe may be positively teeming with life. That we are a relatively young star system only adds to the odds that other possible civilizations may have millions or even billions of years head start on us. What a civilization that far in advance of our own might look like is difficult to even begin to imagine.

The implications of recent discoveries are enormous.

Kepler data: http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011...er_Update.html

[indie]

.....pretty informative!

[Solachica]

Truth is out there

[kemist]

^ ok agent Mulder

i want to believe

[Solachica]

A a is Agent Scully

[draja]

They were here a long, long time ago.
Look at the series Ancient Aliens on the History Channel

Link: http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens

[draja]

VIMANA - Ancient Flying Machines.
Links:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/12499055/V...lying-Machines

http://www.scribd.com/doc/243182/Vim...g-Matchiens-IV

Rumour has it that one has been found in Afghanistan by the US Army.

[lexbarker]

Nah, no such thing. Just an illusion 3 days ago.

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[edyle]

First time I saw one like that (I mean a video where the craft suddenly seems to dissappear) was one with a very large craft hovering over an urban area in what I assumed to be China - well I mean it could have been Japan or Korea or something, I wouldn't know the difference. Anyway the the way it just blanked out, I figured maybe the craft had some sort of invisibility/cloaking ability, and maybe it merely malfunctioned for a while then it got back working again.

Then I saw another video a long time later- entirely different scene, and there were a couple slowed down versions which showed that this craft didn't just blank out whether by teleportation or by cloaking, but actually went Upwards!

And this video here looks like it's a case of the craft suddenly moving upwards.

It occured to me some time ago that if indeed one found a solution to antigravity, then instant high acceleration might really mean nothing to the occupants of a such a vehicle if the occupants and within the antigravity effect. From that standpoint, the sudden acceleration does not seem so outlandish.

[letric]

Do I believe the paranormal really exists? No. In 1954 a woman called Marian Keech claimed to be
in communication with aliens. She had convinced a group of followers there would be a great flood
before dawn on 21 December, but just before the disaster there, the group would be rescued by
aliens in a flying saucer. In the run up to 21 December, Keech and her followers grew more excited.
But the day came, and went, and it became obvious the aliens were no-show. A few hours passed,
and Keech suddenly announced she'd received another message: the cataclysm had been cancelled as
the group had restored alien faith in the humanity. Her followers breathe a sigh of relief, many
travelling from one flying saucer convention to the next, spreading the good word. Research has shown
we all have remarkable ability to explain away discomforting evidence - rather than change our beliefs.

[Falcon]

I saw the rapidly disappearing light a couple months ago. Looked strange in the sky as it was obviously not plane, copter or balloon. Filmed it with my mobile, then it just zoomed off with a flash. But then again, Salisbury plains and the RAF aren't that far away from my house.

[Randall]

Video?

TTonline exclusive?!

I saw the rapidly disappearing light a couple months ago. Looked strange in the sky as it was obviously not plane, copter or balloon. Filmed it with my mobile, then it just zoomed off with a flash. But then again, Salisbury plains and the RAF aren't that far away from my house.

[Falcon]

if you can enhance it, then by all means...but you say I cant upload AVI files

[Randall]

yah, mail it to randallmaharaj@gmail.com, i'll upload it for ya.

[Falcon]

will do.