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    Thread: Is Discrimination Always Wrong ?

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      Default Is Discrimination Always Wrong ?

      Let's take discrimination based on race and compare it to 'discrimination' based on sexual orientation in the following 2 senarios :

      (1) A "big brother" program, where adult males are paired with young boys who need a positive role model - Clearly, if such a program refused to pair a black person with a white person that would be unjustified discrimination; but what if the same program refused to allow an adult male who is openly gay into the program ? Could it be argued that they are just protecting the young boys in the program from possible sexual exploitation (keep in mind, these programs do not pair males with females and vice versa for the same reason)

      (2) You are 100% hetrosexual and you are looking for a flatmate to share your 2 br condo with you, and you turn down an applicant because he is of a different race as you are; is that equally unjustified as turning down an applicant because he is openly gay ?

      The 2 examples above are based loosely on real situations - I want to hear what other ppl think about this, my views on "gay rights" remains unchanged & has been expressed on several threads on ttol already - being gay does NOT give you any special rights, and certainly, your "gay rights" DO NOT trump "everyone else's rights"
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      Are you asking us to do your homework for you again?
      It's far better to be a dotish anything than a forceripe something.

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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      Right now,I am too busy to write a thesis for you.
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      Thats like asking if all crimes are equally wrong.
      “There is a magnificent, beautiful, wonderful painting in front of you! It is intricate, detailed, a painstaking labor of devotion and love! The colors are like no other, they swim and leap, they trickle and embellish! And yet you choose to fixate your eyes on the small fly which has landed on it! Why do you do such a thing?”
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      Quote Originally Posted by guyguy
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      Quote Originally Posted by Amelia
      Thats like asking if all crimes are equally wrong.
      But not all crimes have the same consequences in law, therefore it can e argued that society does not view all crimes as equally wrong.
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      Are there degrees of wrong?
      An action is judged to be wrong or right by a myriad of factors in relation to context and circumstance.
      Once judged to be wrong, it is no less wrong than any other wrong.
      For example, reckless driving is wrong. But does it make littering any less wrong?
      No. Littering is still wrong.
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      Ok, I will rephrase my question like this "Is discrimination always wrong ?"
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      your suggestion that gays make children gay has no evidence to support it,

      As for whether all types of discrimination are wrong, well why does anybody deserve to be discriminated against? :?
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      Could it be argued that they are just protecting the young boys in the program from possible sexual exploitation (keep in mind, these programs do not pair males with females and vice versa for the same reason)
      OK...I'll tackle this, starting with the first scenario.

      Contrary to what you may believe, Big Brothers did not begin pairing boys with men for any sexual reasons.
      BB began as an organization to help boys without fathers learn how to become men. One must recognize that BB had it's beginnings in a time when many households were becoming fatherless due to war and economics. Big Sisters (BS) came along many years later when it was recognized that some little girls needed women to spend time with them. As a man who raised my daughter without her mother from the age of 4 until she moved out at 18, I found BS to be very helpful.
      And I never considered whether any of the BS women were lesbian; only that they gave my daughter what I couldn't; an education in becoming a woman.

      Yes, it could be argued, but would the argument be a winning one?
      It all depends on the mindset of the judge. If you, Scorpio, were the one hearing the argument of course you would side with whomever argues that point. I, on the other hand, would take the opposite side of that argument.

      In your second scenario, there really is nothing to argue. Everyone may be as discriminating as they wish when deciding on who will move into their home.

      If it was a case of a landlord renting out the apartment, and not living in it, then either case, race or sexuality, should not be considered.
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      I have been looking for work recently, and casting my net as wide as my varied experiences.
      I applied to manage a Ladies Apparel shop and was told bluntly that they are only considering women for the position. Is that wrongful discrimination?
      After all, I have been in Mens Clothing stores and have been served by a woman...

      I don't see what harm there is if I were to work in Victoria's Secret Stores. Can anyone see the harm?
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      Quote Originally Posted by mammadon
      your suggestion that gays make children gay has no evidence to support it,
      I never suggested this - read what I wrote again - I specifically noted that, in the example I was using, men are not paired with young girls as "big brothers" to avoid creating the opportunity for sexual impropriety. I am asking here, is it wrong to discriminate against gays by refusing to let them be "big brothers" to young boys on the very same principle ?

      Quote Originally Posted by mammadon
      As for whether all types of discrimination are wrong, well why does anybody deserve to be discriminated against? :?
      No one deserves to be discriminated against, but, at the same time, everyone has a right to chose to do what they think it right for themselves and any minors to whom they owe a duty of care (provided always that they do not trample on anyone's rights in the process). This is where my second example comes in - I think a straight person has the right to discriminate against gays when choosing a room-mate.
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      Scorpio,

      I belive there is a distinct difference between discrimination and stigma. In your first example there is a stigma attached to all gay men being pedophiles and as such they will hurt young boys. On this basis they are discriminated against as they are all being labeled as something they may not necessarily be, that is, a pedophile with an interest in young boys. The stigma that a gay man is, perhaps, a pedophile would lead to them being discriminated against.

      As for deciding to not share a flat on the basis of one's sexual orientation, it is also due to the stigma attached that all gay men are interested in any man and may make sexual advances to all men. This can also lead to being discriminated against on the basis of sexual orientation.

      So to answer your question, we all discriminate. Every last one of us. Mostly due to fear or miseducation. Does it necessarily makeit wrong? I can't say. It would depend on the individual circumstance or scenario.
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Majik
      I have been looking for work recently, and casting my net as wide as my varied experiences.
      I applied to manage a Ladies Apparel shop and was told bluntly that they are only considering women for the position. Is that wrongful discrimination?
      After all, I have been in Mens Clothing stores and have been served by a woman...

      I don't see what harm there is if I were to work in Victoria's Secret Stores. Can anyone see the harm?
      At the end of the day it is a business and they want to attract as many customers as possible. They are assuming that a female employee would be better able to assist customers in te Ladies Apparel department as they are more familiar with what women may look for.

      What may be a problem is if you do not see any men working for VS. Which is not the case as is evidenced in several outlets.
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      Quote Originally Posted by Scorpio
      This is where my second example comes in - I think a straight person has the right to discriminate against gays when choosing a room-mate.
      It may come down to one's level of comfort and making a decision that's best for him/her.

      However, that doesn't mean one should not self-examine why there is a discrimination to begin with.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Majik
      I have been looking for work recently, and casting my net as wide as my varied experiences.
      I applied to manage a Ladies Apparel shop and was told bluntly that they are only considering women for the position. Is that wrongful discrimination?
      After all, I have been in Mens Clothing stores and have been served by a woman...

      I don't see what harm there is if I were to work in Victoria's Secret Stores. Can anyone see the harm?
      A-ha ! Prefect real world example !!!

      It can be argued the ladies' apparel shop has a right to discriminate in this case if it can be demonstrated that female customers will not be comfortable being attended to by a man. Suppose (just suppose, eh, I ent mean it will really happen) they gave in and hired a man to work there and they loose so many customers as a result that they have to close down, wouldn't the man be right back to square one - out of a job ? The owners of the store has rights too, they have the right to protect their business.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Majik

      BB began as an organization to help boys without fathers learn how to become men.
      So, it's ok to pair these young boys with openly gay "big brothers" ?

      (I know you answered this question when you said that you never questioned whether the "big sister" paired your daughter with was lesbian, but my question is based on if the person is OPENLY GAY, as in my opening post)
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      Quote Originally Posted by ebony02
      Scorpio,

      I belive there is a distinct difference between discrimination and stigma. In your first example there is a stigma attached to all gay men being pedophiles and as such they will hurt young boys. On this basis they are discriminated against as they are all being labeled as something they may not necessarily be, that is, a pedophile with an interest in young boys. The stigma that a gay man is, perhaps, a pedophile would lead to them being discriminated against..

      I never labled anyone a pedophile, I am saying that if you had a son, and he needed a father figure, you would be within your rights to not want him to be paired with an openly gay man in the big brother program, and therefore, the openly gay man should not feel wrong if he is rejected by the program. The way the world is going now, soon you'd be forced to accept such a situation because it might become illegal to discriminate in this manner.
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      Default Re: Are All Types of Discrimination Equally Unjust ?

      Quote Originally Posted by Scorpio
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Majik

      BB began as an organization to help boys without fathers learn how to become men.
      So, it's ok to pair these young boys with openly gay "big brothers" ?

      (I know you answered this question when you said that you never questioned whether the "big sister" paired your daughter with was lesbian, but my question is based on if the person is OPENLY GAY, as in my opening post)
      All I can say is that I would not preclude an openly gay man being a BB to MY son, if that were the case.

      BBs go through similar police checks to what I had to submit to in order to coach youth soccer.
      As you may recall, I coached my daughter's team from the year she turned 10 until the year she turned 18.
      Now for some perspective:

      I am an OPENLY heterosexual man. By that I mean I was single for most of those years, and quite often was accompanied by young sexy women, including one who was 16 years my junior; closer in age to my team than to myself. At tournaments, in which 3 matches would be played throughout one day, I could often be seen chatting up a lady I met at the pitch.

      The core of my team (about 8 or 9 girls) were with me for most of those nine years, and I became very well known and friendly with their parents. Their fathers would quite often make comments to me about how they envy me being single and free to mingle. Some of the mothers made a little game amongst themselves which included seeing whether I would show up with a woman at a match, and whether she would look better or worse than the last one they saw. One time they even saw me with a woman who appeared to be from the wrong side of the tracks and scolded me about how I could do better than that!

      But one thing I never once experienced in all those years was any parent hesitant in having me around their daughter. There were many occasions where they would ask me to drive their daughter to or from a match as they couldn't make it, or would be late or have to leave early. On one occasion we were playing a tourney out of town and would be staying in a hotel for 2 nights. One couple had their 16y/o daughter spend the first night in the room with me and my daughter, as they couldn't come until the morning.

      In those nine years I have never crossed the line, nor have I ever had any suspicion or accusation directed at me.
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      Default Re: Is Discrimination Always Wrong ?

      Most people discriminate but it's not "poltically correct" to admit this fact. We are so afraid to be branded "racists" or "homophobic", that we pretend to be so liberal.

      Do you think that the local Boy Scout chapter will tolerate a gay scout master? I know my son will not be in his troop! Why should any parent take the chance, when there have been many reported instances of sexual tampering at camps? As for a gay room-mate, that's also out of the question. No offence, I believe that people who share common space should be compatible and have common interests.

      As for Majik sleeping in the same room as my daughter ( of any age ) or me being in the same room as my teenage daughter, is totally out of the question. In my mind this is totally unacceptable behaviour for me but don't let me be the judge of how others conduct themselves.

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      As for Majik sleeping in the same room as my daughter ( of any age ) or me being in the same room as my teenage daughter, is totally out of the question.
      The funny thing is I tend to agree with you on the first part. I'm not sure, if roles were reversed, I would have let my daughter spend the night in a room with a male coach and his daughter.
      Perhaps what I would have done is approach another couple with a child on the team, then ask them to consider allowing their daughter to spend the night in a room, paid for by me, with my daughter.

      However, the second part doesn't fly with me. As you may have understood, I spent many a night alone with my daughter in a hotel room. I have also shared a bed with her when visiting my cousin in Newark, NJ.
      There have also been nights when we'd both fall asleep watching TV, and I would awaken to find her snuggling up against me; a perfectly natural thing for a girl to do with her father.

      All that said, I refuse to accept that because a man is openly gay that he presents a clear and present danger to a young man/boy. That is just bigoted thinking.
      The incidence of paedophilia involving man/boy is similar to the numbers involving man/girl.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble

      I discriminate and I don't make any apologies for it and that's the name of dat tune!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Double Trouble
      I discriminate and I don't make any apologies for it and that's the name of dat tune!
      You may not apologize, but you do find a lot of excuses for your discrimination
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      ok, say allyuh went to the USA or UK, and a white person called you the n-word or c-word. would you cry foul at political correctness then?
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