What you think about this JACK***

[Ali]

A teenager who shot dead eight people in a US shopping centre before killing himself wrote in a suicide note that he wanted to be famous.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7130504.stm

[Somebody007]

Ali, you should know by now America is full of psychos.

[Ali]

Yeh i know...........just another psycho :|

It's the excuses that are disturbing........he wanted to be famous :o

[Scorpio]

There is a difference between being famous and being notorious, I think he achieved the latter.

[rivers]

I think he would be really disappointed because the talking heads weren't overly consumed with this story, as a matter of fact I don't know his name nor will I try to learn it

[Solachica]

He cudda just go and kill himself. Why he had to kill other people to. :roll:

[vaio]

he may have been famous if he did something courageous and died in the effort....steups...

[lexbarker]

I think it is difficult to analyse the action of this crime. What does the killing of random innocent people have to do with his failings?

[Sirius]

Reading the article there are a lot of things that indicate that this guy was not a "jack" as the thread title suggests, but a troubled teen. It seems to me he had psychological problems that for whatever reason went undetected/untreated.


Hawkins is said to have suffered from depression in the past, and recently lost his job at McDonald's and broke up with his girlfriend.

He was living with a friend's family in Bellevue, an Omaha suburb.

His friend's mother, Debora Maruca Kovac, told the Associated Press news agency that when he first came to live with them, "he was introverted, a troubled young man who was like a lost pound puppy that nobody wanted".

She said he phoned her about 1300 on Wednesday, telling her that he had left a note for her in his bedroom. She tried to get him to explain.

"He said, 'It's too late'," and then hung up, she told CNN.

In the note, she said, Hawkins had written that "he was sorry for everything, that he didn't want to be a burden to anybody, he loved his family, he loved all of his friends".

The note went on to say he wanted to be famous, she said.

Why was he living at a friend's home instead of his own? What were the circumstances at his own home?

Why would he say he loved his family and his friends and didn't want to be a burden to anybody, and then go shooting people and committing suicide?

It is easy to make judgments about all that happened but a situation like this is very complex and it would take a professional to get inside the psyche of this young man and understand why he did what he did, and why he felt this was the path he should take.

[peanut]

Ali, you should know by now America is full of psychos.

And Trinidad eh have none :roll: :roll:

What about the Min of Nat inSecurity and the Crime Minister, Dr. The Right disHonorable, Pastor Patrick Mervyn Augustus Manning who is alarmed by murder rate after the elections? Wappen he didn't know the bribe money for the peace treaty before the election needed to be increased to extend to after the election? :o :mrgreen:

[Somebody007]

Ali, you should know by now America is full of psychos.

And Trinidad eh have none :roll: :roll:

What about the Min of Nat inSecurity and the Crime Minister, Dr. The Right disHonorable, Pastor Patrick Mervyn Augustus Manning who is alarmed by murder rate after the elections? Wappen he didn't know the bribe money for the peace treaty before the election needed to be increased to extend to after the election? :o :mrgreen:


Peanut, we are dealing with the article at hand....yes Trinidad have psychoes too and I don't agree with what you wrote for all to see but lets face it....america has alot of crazy people with crazy ideas....yuh doh hear about people running in Malls in Trinidad with guns shooting up people....

[peanut]

Eh :?: But yuh doh hear the President of the US calling murder collateral damage :roll: .. Yuh doh hear him talking about how baffled he is about the rise in crime :roll: ... Yuh doh hear him talking about kidnappings being bogus :lol: ... Yuh doh hear nobody from his Cabinet having to send any letter to newspapers in a foreign Country about priniting the horror story of what a hell hole the US has become :roll: ... Yuh doh pick up a newspapers everyday and read about another kidnapper or murderer walking free :roll: .

BTW yuh does hear about kidnapping in the US nah :roll: Yuh does ever hear about people having to pay coward tax so dey famalee go safe :roll:

Doh bring that kinda ah BS about people running in Malls in Trinidad with guns shooting up people because the police will level dey rass wid bullets and put dem 6 ft under, not leave them to escape the Judicial System to go kill anyone else :twisted:

[Sirius]

This thread is not dealing with crime in Trinidad and Tobago, but there are multiple other threads dealing with that topic.

This particular thread is concerned with the multiple shootings and suicide by a teenager in a Unites States shopping mall with no link whatsoever made to the T&T crime situation by the thread's author. Please keep your discussions relevant.

[Somebody007]

Peanut, listen to Sirius eh....I was now about to post something here but I changed my mind.

[peanut]

Steups, my point was why all the focus on these obvioulsy troubled teens when it 100 times worse in T&T cause yuh have teens doing worse than that.

BTW. Ah doh need yuh advice on who to listen to or not listen to, and I doh tell you what to write or not to write for anyone to see. Me eh no roof over nobody cocoa. 8-)