THE QUESTION OF " NO"

[iiinharmony]

Sometimes some people ( regardless of gender ) like to create an " impression" that they are being pursued by a man or a woman ( by characterising the person as a Stalker) and if we do not know the facts of the matter we too sometimes jump to conclusions assume that the person is correct when we do not know all of the facts.

Sometimes we have to be very,very,careful before we pass judgement on others especially so when we do not know the facts and have not heard both sides hence in TNT we have Courts of laws and Tribunals set up and mechanisms in place to avoid just such a situation and to negate the false and outrageous allegations of others against decent and upstanding TNT republicans on this Forum or elsewhere in our beloved TNT.

Let us ask ouselves the question: How could anyone ever stalk anyone whom they have never seen in their life?

How can someone ever decide to try to form an intimate relationship with someone here on this forum without getting their telephone number ,email ,address and some means of actually hearing their voice and seeing the person and knowing whom they are talking to?

It seems to me if someone has never ask for your telephone number,your name,your address,your email etc then how in the world could they be even trying to form a relation with you and by any stretch of the imagination be " stalking you!"

It seems that some people use the word " no" and " stalking" to actually imply that someone has been "trying to become intimate " with them or pursuing them!
That seems so farfetched that one could reasonably conclude in such a case that such a person is seeking attention.

To me it seems the person who asked for the personal information is the one who is seeking the relationship!

It has been reported that there are some people in the United States who have made up " stalking" stories to get " attention" because in so many of these cases they are just lonely and scared people who feel that their biological clock is ticking and their dating lives have hit a " dry spell " so maybe if they come up with these outrageous claims people who listen may see them as very importat and maybe they will attract sympathy and who knows find a " sympathetic" friend.
Lastly,everyone of us knows that the Moderators and site designers has placed safeguards which one can use to " block" PM ( Private Messages") so if one does not want PM one then can use the feature and moreso the Moderators can actually track as to who started the Private Messaging etc and if at some point it got sour then we do not need to allow ourselves to be " dragged" into such a foray especially if we do not have all the facts to make a judgement if we wanted make a judgement.
if we do not have all the facts we should tread very carefully if we chose to view the allegations made by others of " NO" and " Stalking" because we know very well because we have TNT common sense ,"that all that glitters is not Gold."

Speaking for myself.I live and breathe the sweet TNT air and everyone who lives here must know that if a man or a woman has a great character and their ducks are in a row ( every single one of my ducks are in a row ) they have no trouble finding a mate and the word " NO" does not fit into their life style because " we" have plenty of nice men and women right here who know how to treat each other and have a great time!
So,please,give us a break with this divisive " kanka!"
Can we move on to more positives things people?
" Mamguying and sweet talking and praising " the Moderators should not bear fruit so please be positive and move on to topics of interest to the betterment of TNT.No one is " Stalking you and you know it!"

[Sumana]

Speaking of stalking I'm getting quite worried seeing that a certain forum member has posted my VERY personal details on the forum with me not knowing him, never speaking to him, hell never even seeing him - I guess that's true stalkin!!

[iiinharmony]

That my friend is serious and if I were you I will ask the Moderators for advice on that one!

[Sumana]

Anyways I'm sure this is going to be locked just now :)

[BW]

:shock: to this thread

personal information on intarnets = bad idea.

dun do it. Stalking and ID theft is real. It have plenty people who does get trap up in dem thing.

That said:

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what comes next?

[Sumana]

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[iiinharmony]

If you deal withthe facts and not deal with the " them say ,he say, she say " and do not take the facts personally then you will see the relevance of what is being said.
It is very unfortunate that someone was so dishonourable to do what you said was done ( and again what we have is what you have said but where is the proof ?) but like I said ," I will have sought the advice of the moderators and presented them withthe proof." beyond that is beyond me but if the facts of the post are true and provable to be factual and not simply flights of fancy you probably have some sort of redress in Law of elsewhere but I do not really know.
It is nothing personal but simply factual with the hope to discourage this type of behaviour.

[Sumana]

The thread was deleted :) Thanks to the mods for that

[BW]

If you deal withthe facts and not deal with the " them say he say she say " and do not take the fcat spersonally then you will see the relevance of what is being said.
It is very unfortunate that someone was so dishonourable to do what you said was done ( and again what we have what you have said but where is the proof ?) but like I said ," I will have sought the advice of the moderators and presented them withthe proof." beyond that is beyond me but the facts of the post are true and provable to be factual and not siply flights of fancy.
It is nothing personal but simply factual with the hope to discourage this type of behaviour.

There's a good point buried in there somewhere.

[dancerboy]

IIINHARMONY, DO YOU EVER WRITE CONCISE RESPONSES TO THREADS ?. You are like those preachers who think they have to scream to be haerd by GOD. DANCERBOY

[Solachica]

Truth be told I can't see how someone can stalk another on a forum without knowing details etc. They cud harass but don't think thts stalking.
And as said there is foe option etc.

[iiinharmony]

Well Dancer boy maybe you have an issue with other people's mode of expression ?
I can assure you dancer(((( man) at 63 you are no longer a boy grow up please!))) that you have the right to make your statements and I fully support that right because it such a right which makes us feel and know we are free. However dancerman,I hasten to add,I do not agree with you!
You can influence me if I am listening to you but may I assure you dancer man I shall not be listening to you.
Thanks for the reply though!

Solachica you again speak with much wisdom and women in their very own right have a wisdom which is inherrently their wisdom and when a woman may be able to fool a man it is very ,very,difficult for a woman to fool another woman in some things.
Thanks for the reply Solachica and I am still trying to get them moderators to throw ah fete at best an at worst arrange ah get together at a nice place with some music and great TNT food and grog!

[dancerboy]

IIINHARMONY, that was a very concise and an intellectually palatable response. It would be nice if you can keep your responses and posting that length. No offense, but it really takes a lot of time to read and digest your post, (And HARRY'S), and it makes it difficult to give a thorough response. Also, check the time i make my post. I know i retire, but that doesn't mean ah go stay up all night trying to read long responseS. Ah does get up early and go walk, or go to the gym. DANCERBOY

[BW]

Hey! I enjoy reading those long posts.

[Solachica]

Iinharmony even the at worst senario seeming good. :lol:
Mods throw party? :lol:

[iiinharmony]

Solachica ....Tell them girl we ready to " fete" and have a Christmas blast and forget the past all we have to do is eat and drink and wine up we cup to the beat of the sweet TNT music...come on Mods bring it on strong and sweet for de Christmas ...a party or a get together in the hart of the City!

[peanut]

Speaking strictly frrm a Security point of view, and Sumana you know I have years of experience in private security and law enforcement.

Women today, especially single/divorced women are targetted by criminals pretending to be who they are not, and women and children cannot be too careful in protecting themselves from men who appear very or too friendly. I am not just speaking about in cyberspace.

In all my lectures to women and children I have always advised that should you encounter such a person, get as much verifiable information as you can before trusting their friendliness.

The signs to look for in testing trustworthiness are;

1] Always let the person know you need to have a background check done before proceeding to being a friend. 2] The person's willingness to divulge any information knowing the reason for requested information. 3] How much information that person is willing to divulge if any at all.

The most critical factor is 4] The person's demeanor after the request, which can be discerned through their messages be it subtle, or not. Does the person become beligerent, insulting, verbally abusive? Does he demonstrate any type of hostility towards you? If "yes" apply to any and this person is on the internet, you will be well advise to contact the System's Administrator, if this person is someone you see in public places, then contact your local Law Enforcement Agency.

Ladies, protect yourself, you are in a world of devious criminals who will attempt to portray themselves in the best light until you say "NO"

[iiinharmony]

At some of these people ages who in the world will really care to want to be what ever they are suggesting ? Take that garbage to the " US Bank " where it belongs for their money seems to be headed towards " toilet paper status!"

That is the kind of crap one has to apply to the sickos in the USA if you lived here in TNT you will realzie man doh ketch hell to find woman nor does woman kecth hell to find man so all this talk about people stalking you on the Internet is you trying to creat an impression that man chasing youh down.

Tell the truth...people show you some respect and treat you like we doe streat all people with resepect and make friends exchange ideas etc ....and you fly off wanting people personal information it seems you are the one who is not to be trutsed because if some chat a bit on a private message where in the world does the need for personal information come in ?

You claiming to be this big lawenforcement person and you said on yuh post yuh run like hell when man buss lash in yuh tail...why yuh did not use " yuh law enforcemnet tactics to lock he up and buss he tail up ?'

Stop trying to leave false impression that yuh is some kind a big shot and all that because yuh know what ?

We doh give a rats back about all that because every one of we here know that yuh doh go beyond private message and the forum ...if the Mods thorw a party and we meet each other great ...we live here and dance and fete here and if yuh was a true Trini yuh would a know how much woman and man giving away down here but we doh do internet dating that is a yankee timg not we!

So give it up and stop throwing words like ah old macco ...give it up and stick to the topics...show some self respect not self aggradisement...give it up!
Like Rambo say," Let it go!"