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Scorpio
11-27-2007, 10:21 AM
I wonder if the nation's future in these children's bookbags ??? :shock:

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161241690 (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161241690)


Teachers flee as pupil 'war' erupts in school


TEACHERS at a Princes Town secondary school had to flee for their lives yesterday, when fight erupted among several gangs on the school compound.

"Hundreds of students started pelting objects, hitting, cuffing and pounding on each other and even on teachers who tried to intervene," a reliable source told the Express.

The incident occurred at the Princes Town Junior Secondary School, which has about 900 pupils and 30 teachers.

A member of staff, who spoke on anonymity, said: "It started with a few pupils and everybody's friends and partner jumped in the fray without even knowing what was going on. They were cussing and pelting stones and just rioting," the staff member said.

The mayhem started around 10 a.m. and lasted for about an hour.

The spokesman told the Express: "Just think of 900 students running around pelting stones, bags and anything they could find, screaming and fighting. It was riot, with every and anyone getting licks. Those students just went wild."

He added that "even a teacher who tried to intervene to stop the fight when it started, with two students of two different gangs, got some licks. No other teacher dared to get involved. Everyone secured his and her own safety, leaving the children to their actions".

While some teachers preferred to stay in their classrooms in the upstairs departments, others who had come out to stop the fight had to escape for safety in their vehicles, the Express understands.

The principal and vice principal were said to be at a function with the Ministry of Education at the Learning Resources Centre in Couva yesterday. On advice from someone in higher authority, the next member of staff in charge dismissed school, citing the absence of teachers on the compound.

Teachers are upset, however, because they claim "nobody cared about our safety, when the riot started. Why should we risk our lives? We feel sorry for the innocent ones, but what can we do? It's a problem for the ministry. This did not start today, it's going on almost everyday".

Three MTS security guards and one retired police officer employed as a safety officer refused to act to stop the fights. The staff member said: "The three guards ran into the group of pupils when the fight started, but they ran out just as fast. The safety officer refused to act."

When the fight started yesterday, some people "were frantically trying to get to E999", but got no response.

The teacher's representative at the school has called a staff meeting this morning to discuss the incident.

The Ministry of Education was not aware of the problem yesterday. The Express understands that TTUTA was aware of the incident, but new president Roustan Job could not be reached for comment

serenity
11-27-2007, 11:47 AM
Well yes! What kinda madness is this? I'd like to see who are the parents of these kids. Gangs? They should be busy trying to finish the syllabus! Steups.

dhal
11-27-2007, 08:00 PM
allyuh doh no what it is to be in a school like this unless yuh went there or yuh workin there.

busy tryin to finish the what serenity?? syllabus? half doh care bout that and d others doh even no what it is....few students in these schools care about school to any great extent.

plus, fights does start easy easy...fuh nuttin....

Solachica
11-27-2007, 08:11 PM
Its a wonder the teachers remained on the compound.
Wht security guards cud do. They did need riot police and arrest some of them lil holigans.
Kids now have no respect. Well not all of them.some of them have to much attitude.

dhal
11-27-2007, 08:16 PM
in my school, they hav safety officers who used to be prison officers...imagine in school they have gates an they lock them so that students cant vandalize the classrooms durin lunch and break....it really makes u wonder

serenity
11-28-2007, 07:21 AM
I didnt realise the problem had gotten so bad...(I sound like Martin Joseph dey eh?)
So now in trini, private schools will be the way to go, just like in the States...
And the poor will remain uneducated and poor and those who could afford it will have the opportunities.
Any statement yet from the Ministry?

Solachica
11-28-2007, 08:20 AM
Not all schools are like tht so no need to rush into Private schools. :?

Ali
11-28-2007, 08:55 AM
Thats one problem...........what about when the school compound :shock:
things might be worse

Mivo
11-28-2007, 10:08 AM
wow how can it be fixed? I believe its begins in the home with unruly and disrespectful kids who bring it to the school and create chaos for everyone

serenity
11-28-2007, 10:21 AM
Mivo, I agree that it may begin at home but something should be done so that does not continue/be tolerated in schools. I wonder what the experts would recommend as disciplinary measures in schools...

Ali
11-28-2007, 10:38 AM
Thats one problem...........what about when the school compound :shock:
things might be worse


sorry.. meant to say when they are outside the school compound :oops:

sapodila
11-28-2007, 09:51 PM
Done with security guards already!... they only fathering children's children. Bring in the police full time! ... no young boi police eh. Bring in some old hard back rough up police men who know how to use them baton on some of them harden childrens' ( gangsters) backsides!

Somebody007
12-03-2007, 01:30 PM
in my school, they hav safety officers who used to be prison officers...imagine in school they have gates an they lock them so that students cant vandalize the classrooms durin lunch and break....it really makes u wonder


Reading this article, the whole fiasco sounding like a prison riot. I cyar believe children behaving like this now....I'd bet pretty soon, you will be reading about children get stabbed and killed by other students right in the school yards self.....by then I guess both the army and the police service will become and integrative part of the school's security.

dancerboy
12-04-2007, 11:21 PM
SAPODILA, what u say would ah work in my time. But U C we copycat TRINIS follow the AMERICANS and take corporal punishment out of the school, so now we have to live with the consequences. It's amazing how we only copy the negative things. If only we could follow the AMERICANS and put police back on the beat on foot, and on bicycles like they do in NEW YORK. DANCERBOY

sapodila
12-05-2007, 10:04 AM
Trinidad = Little NY! That's how we see it. I wonder when they would realize that what they are so busy copying, the Americans are so busy fighting to bring about change?!

kristaal
12-07-2007, 06:34 PM
I have taught in the US and taught in Trinidad and I have to say that the powers tha be seem to think that if the Americans do it then it must be good. The reality is the the Americans do not know what to do with their broken k-12 public education system. They know that something is wrong with it, but they have no idea how to fix it. So those that can afford, send their kids to private religious and secular schools, those that can't afford it send their children to 'charter' schools or they home-school them.

The sad part is, some American Educators like to give the impression to others outside their country (and inside it too) that they DO know what they are doing and they have the answers. Unsuspecting countries who think that they are 'backward' and who look to the educational models of the US and Canada for guidance accept what these 'eminent' Educators say without looking closely at the state of the educational systems from which they come.

"The proof of the puddin' is in the eating". The value of educational models should not be judged by the 'wonderful research' that Educators point to, but to the actual state of the educational systems, school districts etc that practice the research strategies. If that is our measuring stick, then we would be looking to countries like Singapore, and the Phillipines where the attitude and performance of students far surpasses those of US students.

Solachica
12-07-2007, 07:53 PM
Trinidad = Little NY! That's how we see it. I wonder when they would realize that what they are so busy copying, the Americans are so busy fighting to bring about change?!
I went to an english dr ytday and he made the comment to me tht its so sad tht people in TnT are copying the Americans so much.

BW
12-07-2007, 08:07 PM
"The proof of the puddin' is in the eating". The value of educational models should not be judged by the 'wonderful research' that Educators point to, but to the actual state of the educational systems, school districts etc that practice the research strategies. If that is our measuring stick, then we would be looking to countries like Singapore, and the Phillipines where the attitude and performance of students far surpasses those of US students.

I'm not going to agree with that. Students from the US system do have different qualities, but I wouldn't go so far as to interpret those as being 'inferior'.

Anyway, back on topic...

sapodila
12-11-2007, 07:57 PM
The information found on the net is only good as the source it's coming from. Likewise, a child's brain can absorb only what's being feed academically. Let us not blame our children for not being in the ranks of the great global British taught system. Let us observe what these structured education systems are experimenting on our children via our somewhat educated teachers, in Trinidad and Tobago ( Caribbean) and the United states.

Satya
12-17-2007, 11:05 AM
so sad tht people in TnT are copying the Americans so much.


but is the same thing I saying on the other thread. Copying, and only copying the bad...what dis world really coming to :?