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skl
10-03-2007, 07:34 AM
Place your bets now. Jack, Kamla or Bas. with a outside chance of Ramesh and Kirk.


http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161210871 (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161210871)


THE leader of the United National Congress Alliance will be determined tomorrow.

Members of a high-powered meeting agreed to select the new leader at that time last night, after meeting for two and a half hours at the House of Chan Restaurant at Emerald Plaza in St Augustine.

Speaking after the meeting, Stephen Cadiz, of Yes TT, told the media that "serious proposals were made" and when UNC Deputy Political Leader Jack Warner returns tomorrow morning, the leadership council would meet again and a final decision would be made.

"Mr Panday is the leader of the UNC. Can we win the general election with that? That is the question that needs to be answered," he said.

When questioned on whether the potential leaders would come from either Basdeo Panday, Kamla Persad-Bissessar or Warner, he sidestepped the question. But he did say "the population would be pleased".

The Express understands that Persad-Bissessar and Warner are the two front-runners for the position.

Earlier, after about 20 minutes of meeting with Panday, Political Leader of the Democratic National Assembly (DNA), Dr Kirk Meighoo, stormed out the meeting.

At 6.15 p.m., Meighoo angrily flung open the doors and walked away from a meeting which was discussing the leadership of the UNC Alliance.

He was accompanied by Salim Muwakil and an unidentified woman.

When confronted by the Express, a visibly upset Meighoo offered no comment.

Meighoo was not there to attend the meeting. He went specifically to speak with Panday on a possible alliance with the party.

Panday, Persad-Bissessar, Stephen Cadiz, DPTT Political Leader Steve Alvarez and leader of Laventille for Laventillians, Lennox Smith, were all in attendance.

The Express understands that the members of the coalition were torn between either keeping Panday, or appointing Warner or Persad-Bissessar to the post of leader of the coalition.

Meighoo had recently made a proposal appealing to the opposition parties, which included the Congress of the People (COP), to merge to contest the general election. With confidence, he said his party was crucial to ensure victory at the polls.

TheLight
10-03-2007, 07:51 AM
THE leader of the United National Congress Alliance will be determined tomorrow.

wait till tomorrow nah....but ah think Kamla is the woman for the job

skl
10-03-2007, 07:58 AM
THE leader of the United National Congress Alliance will be determined tomorrow.

wait till tomorrow nah....but ah think Kamla is the woman for the job


buh you cant place your bet AFTER ah event. you have to do it before. :D

peanut
10-03-2007, 08:05 AM
I will put my last dollar on Kamla.

With her as the leader, undoubtedly the door to unity with the COP will be thrown wide open without the danger of any
side losing support.

JediKnight
10-03-2007, 08:48 AM
Bas is de man.

snowbird
10-03-2007, 09:04 AM
Personally ah wud ah pick none ah dem, better still ah wudda want all ah dem out ah meh party if ah want tuh win; all ah dem is ah bunch ah ole hacks. :evil:

Anyway....... tinkin lik ah Trini dong there, ah pick Jack !

Why? He manage tuh get dey team tuh de World Cup of Soccer in 2006; forget all de FIFA scandal, an how much money he an he famalee make. Trini's geh an opportunity tuh wear all kina soccer jersey and wave flag fer ah few weeks :lol:

All Trinis remember is dat........ "de rest ah de world know we exist ". Did dat change anything after de football match an dem done?.... no, buh daz O.k.


De fact dat instead ah focusing on the basic needs ah Trinis while being part of de UNC, he instead was only focusing on Trini 'window dressing' fer T&T an makin ah money fer heself, buh daz O.K.

JediKnight
10-03-2007, 09:13 AM
Place your bets now. Jack, Kamla or Bas. with a outside chance of Ramesh and Kirk.




Although ah say Bas is de man, you say Ramesh and Kirk have ah outside chance. Wha yuh feel bout Martin Luther King and Gandhi grandsons? Or wha about de Brazilian drummers? Yuh feel dey have ah chance. If yuh feel so, ah go put mih money on de Brazilian drummers :mrgreen:

JPersad
10-03-2007, 11:21 AM
If Kamla loses out to Jack , chances are we will see Kamla in Skinner Park on Saturday .

nobellium
10-03-2007, 11:32 AM
I hope Kamla gets the nod...I don't know if any of you follow the parliamentary sittings but there have been several instances where she has made good comments about COP members (though not overtly)...in parliament.

I really like her...plus the woman could take on an army with that fiery tongue.

She is easily likeable.

Not to mention the fact that she would be the first woman to head a party and not on a temporary basis.

lou_uk
10-03-2007, 12:18 PM
Kamla will probably pull back some undecided COP/UNC fence sitters. She is the only valid option for the UNCA at this time but with strong men behind her ;) it would be interesting watching this unfold.

Jack Warner is loosing it I feel. He does not even know who he is paying to speak on Sunday. There is an ad in the newspaper listing Martin Luther King III as the grandson of Martin Luther King Jr.

Martin Luther King Jr and Martin Luther King II is one and the same :lol:

Acid
10-03-2007, 12:24 PM
What a timing ... if Kamla emerges as the leader then Saturday in Skinner Park might be part 1 of the party which will have part 2 in Mid Center Mall on Sunday.

Kamla as leader improves UNC-A's attractiveness.

lou_uk
10-03-2007, 12:36 PM
Kamla as leader improves UNC-A's attractiveness.

Not for me. :P

Acid
10-03-2007, 12:38 PM
Well for the undicided voters it makes the difference.

It would be irrelevant to those who have already made up their minds.

Somebody007
10-03-2007, 12:46 PM
Ummm.......Panday is the leader of that party till he goes 6 feet under....I simply don't trust the UNC....even if Kamla take it over, I won't be surprise if the UNC wins the election, Panday emerged out of thin air to take back what was once his. Kamla or no Kamla, they still loosing.

JediKnight
10-03-2007, 01:14 PM
Ummm.......Panday is the leader of that party till he goes 6 feet under....I simply don't trust the UNC....even if Kamla take it over, I won't be surprise if the UNC wins the election, Panday emerged out of thin air to take back what was once his. Kamla or no Kamla, they still loosing.

And everyone seems to be forgetting. Up to this week Kamla says that the UNC-A has only 1 leader, Bas. Jack & Cadiz is de only men with enough testicular fortitude to admit Bas' time has come. To me, even if Kamla is appointed, Bas will still be the leader. Remember what Bas said, even with a leader of the UNC-A, the UNC-A is an amalgamation of parties, not a party, and should they win, the party with the most seats will decide who will be PM, so that all dis ole talk is just dat! It is a nice way to con de pouplation and pave de way for Bas once again. If Kamla is appointed Leader of both the UNC-A and the UNC, dat is a different story. She is simply being used conveniently once again to warm de seat for someone else.

Acid
10-03-2007, 01:23 PM
If UNC-A wins the election Panday would not be PM ... he is going to be appointed President.

lou_uk
10-03-2007, 01:44 PM
Ummm.......Panday is the leader of that party till he goes 6 feet under....I simply don't trust the UNC....even if Kamla take it over, I won't be surprise if the UNC wins the election, Panday emerged out of thin air to take back what was once his. Kamla or no Kamla, they still loosing.

And everyone seems to be forgetting. Up to this week Kamla says that the UNC-A has only 1 leader, Bas. Jack & Cadiz is de only men with enough testicular fortitude to admit Bas' time has come. To me, even if Kamla is appointed, Bas will still be the leader. Remember what Bas said, even with a leader of the UNC-A, the UNC-A is an amalgamation of parties, not a party, and should they win, the party with the most seats will decide who will be PM, so that all dis ole talk is just dat! It is a nice way to con de pouplation and pave de way for Bas once again. If Kamla is appointed Leader of both the UNC-A and the UNC, dat is a different story. She is simply being used conveniently once again to warm de seat for someone else.

I totally agree with your view here but there is nothing esle they can put forward at this moment that would appear to be better. Trust you to see right through it and it not even confirmed. Come November 6th, Kamla will have nothing to lead.

skl
10-03-2007, 03:06 PM
There is an ad in the newspaper listing Martin Luther King III as the grandson of Martin Luther King Jr.

Martin Luther King Jr and Martin Luther King II is one and the same :lol:

I laughing at that too.

vaio
10-03-2007, 03:31 PM
Ummm.......Panday is the leader of that party till he goes 6 feet under....I simply don't trust the UNC....even if Kamla take it over, I won't be surprise if the UNC wins the election, Panday emerged out of thin air to take back what was once his. Kamla or no Kamla, they still loosing.

And everyone seems to be forgetting. Up to this week Kamla says that the UNC-A has only 1 leader, Bas. Jack & Cadiz is de only men with enough testicular fortitude to admit Bas' time has come. To me, even if Kamla is appointed, Bas will still be the leader. Remember what Bas said, even with a leader of the UNC-A, the UNC-A is an amalgamation of parties, not a party, and should they win, the party with the most seats will decide who will be PM, so that all dis ole talk is just dat! It is a nice way to con de pouplation and pave de way for Bas once again. If Kamla is appointed Leader of both the UNC-A and the UNC, dat is a different story. She is simply being used conveniently once again to warm de seat for someone else.

I totally agree with your view here but there is nothing esle they can put forward at this moment that would appear to be better. Trust you to see right through it and it not even confirmed. Come November 6th, Kamla will have nothing to lead.


agreed.... :lol: :lol:

Scorpio
10-03-2007, 04:30 PM
Well for the undicided voters it makes the difference.

It would be irrelevant to those who have already made up their minds.


quite true.

JediKnight
10-03-2007, 04:35 PM
Come November 6th, Kamla will have nothing to lead.

I eh necessarily agree with yuh dey, she go lead de same ting Panday leadin now, but it go be further reduced.... It go still exist, but very small. But there is a ray of light shining through (no pun intended), Dookeran said on the Penal Platform that he spoke to Kamla up to last week Friday, so there is still hope. All yuh go ahead and attack mih if allyuh want, buh I eh givin up hope until nomination day. :mrgreen:

lou_uk
10-03-2007, 08:14 PM
Come November 6th, Kamla will have nothing to lead.

I eh necessarily agree with yuh dey, she go lead de same ting Panday leadin now, but it go be further reduced.... It go still exist, but very small. But there is a ray of light shining through (no pun intended), Dookeran said on the Penal Platform that he spoke to Kamla up to last week Friday, so there is still hope. All yuh go ahead and attack mih if allyuh want, buh I eh givin up hope until nomination day. :mrgreen:

I was speaking in the context of my belief that the UNC is the only party within the UNCA capable of winning a seat.

Scorpio
10-03-2007, 08:20 PM
The UNCA leadership issue is such a joke, 3 Bo Rats in one hole....1 month before elections.

lou_uk
10-03-2007, 08:33 PM
The other funny thing is last time we had any type of "victory" celebration in this country before winning anything was 1989. Times change, but the people remain the same :D

JPersad
10-03-2007, 11:39 PM
I cannot see how Kamla can facilitate any kind of "alliance" with the COP , only because most candidates have already been chosen , and from what I have been hearing the COP seems to have some impressive ones lined up .
At this point in time , I think COP should focus on going it alone .
But we will see on Saturday .

Vampire_Princess
10-04-2007, 12:32 AM
Isn't it true though, that if it is a PNM-UNCA tie, and COP holds a seat or two, they will ally with UNC and form a government?

snowbird
10-04-2007, 06:33 AM
I hope Kamla gets the nod...I don't know if any of you follow the parliamentary sittings but there have been several instances where she has made good comments about COP members (though not overtly)...in parliament.

I really like her...plus the woman could take on an army with that fiery tongue.

She is easily likeable.

Not to mention the fact that she would be the first woman to head a party and not on a temporary basis.

Don't know much about her (because her old boss Panday wouldn't allow anyone else in the party any press :lol: ) but if she is as classy a lady as reported (but obviously able to hold her own in a debate), then maybe she should be Leader; Trinidad's politics could use ah little class :P

JediKnight
10-04-2007, 10:07 AM
The only way that I would believe that Kamla is the leader of the UNC-A is if she is also leader of the UNC. Until that happens, we will all be fools to think that Panday is not the true leader. As I always like to say, if she is annointed she would be the "de jure" leader and Panday will be the "de facto" leader. And always remember what he said, it is not necessarily the case that the UNC-A leader will be PM. :?

dhal
10-04-2007, 10:22 AM
Isn't it true though, that if it is a PNM-UNCA tie, and COP holds a seat or two, they will ally with UNC and form a government?

notice noone ever answers the good questions on this forum...steups...

i guess it would happen, but the terms of a coalition would b very interesting...esp who would be PM

vaio
10-04-2007, 10:42 AM
it wld be an interestin turn of events... cop would find dey self in ah very delicate position... it might be a choice between the devil and d deep blue sea... an ah don't know who is which...hmmmmmm

skl
10-04-2007, 10:43 AM
Isn't it true though, that if it is a PNM-UNCA tie, and COP holds a seat or two, they will ally with UNC and form a government?

notice noone ever answers the good questions on this forum...steups...

i guess it would happen, but the terms of a coalition would b very interesting...esp who would be PM


ent Yetming already. say noway to that question.

slick
10-04-2007, 07:17 PM
Bas and Jack

TheLight
10-04-2007, 07:24 PM
Bas and Jack

Kamla was the chosen one but Bas victory today at the Privy Council change the plans… but a Bas and Jack is unbeatable

slick
10-04-2007, 07:29 PM
Now if this isn't new politics, I really don't know what is :ugeek:

rags
10-04-2007, 07:37 PM
Bas and Jack
Kamla was the chosen one but Bas victory today at the Privy Council change the plans… but a Bas and Jack is unbeatableTheLight what did Bas win at the Privy Council today??...Can you clarify???

By de way Kamla will win hands down..

Somebody007
10-04-2007, 08:21 PM
Bas and Jack
Kamla was the chosen one but Bas victory today at the Privy Council change the plans… but a Bas and Jack is unbeatableTheLight what did Bas win at the Privy Council today??...Can you clarify???

By de way Kamla will win hands down..


Basdeo Panday has been granted a re-trial which will start in March 2008. That is what he won at Privy Council....otherwise he aint win anything else.

TheLight
10-04-2007, 08:28 PM
TheLight what did Bas win at the Privy Council today??...Can you clarify???

His retrial suppose to start on Oct 15th and run through the election but the Privy Council decided that it wouldn’t have any retrial and they would make the final judgment

Somebody007
10-04-2007, 08:34 PM
TheLight what did Bas win at the Privy Council today??...Can you clarify???

His retrial suppose to start on Oct 15th and run through the election but the Privy Council decided that it wouldn’t have any retrial and they would make the final judgment


I heard something different but lets see....besides Panday's fate will be decided by the Lords in Privy Council anyhow.

Solachica
10-04-2007, 08:43 PM
Wonder wht kamla wud say now tht she get sidelined yet again.
She wud say thts it's her parties decision and she wud stand by them? lol

rags
10-04-2007, 08:46 PM
Wonder wht kamla wud say now tht she get sidelined yet again.
She wud say thts it's her parties decision and she wud stand by them? lolJeezanages allyuh torkin in code now...How did Kamla get sidelined???

Somebody007
10-04-2007, 08:47 PM
Wonder wht kamla wud say now tht she get sidelined yet again.
She wud say thts it's her parties decision and she wud stand by them? lol


She leavin dem...watch joke and see...Light and Maccogirl go be in tears jess now.

Wait nah, I bet Maccogirl still writing on the ole board.....lemmeh go check and see.

skl
10-04-2007, 09:39 PM
So what they did vis a vis leadership? I miss the news . :evil:


p.s. a regards panday "victory" let me clear something up.

the Appeals Court said that Panday should be retried at the Magistrate Court, Panday appealed to the Privy Council and said that no his case should be simply dismissed. The Privy Council has now simply given leave that they will hear his arguments as to why they should overrule the Appeals Court.

whether they will agree is something else.

Maccogirl
10-04-2007, 09:43 PM
Somebody ah could always count on you to miss me :D

Maccogirl
10-04-2007, 09:46 PM
What is all the fuss about is Jack all of you studying I think it was a brilliant move putting Jack instead of Kamla that is new politics all you take that, all the Indos that don't like it can move to COP this politics too high for them :D

JPersad
10-04-2007, 09:48 PM
How you could forget me so ?
Yuh know how long I looking for you in here ?
Welcome back .
How much people alyuh pulling into Mis Center Mall on Sunday ?
The entertainment sounding good.If I was home , I surely would attend .

JPersad
10-04-2007, 09:49 PM
What is all the fuss about is Jack all of you studying I think it was a brilliant move putting Jack instead of Kamla that is new politics all you take that, all the Indos that don't like it can move to COP this politics too high for them :D
What yuh drinking ?

Maccogirl
10-04-2007, 09:57 PM
JP so what wrong with Jack being leader of the alliance am surprised that you of all people cannot understand that move, Jack is Chairman of the Alliance I see nothing wrong with that so Jack ok to put funds in the party but he cannot lead anything what nonsene is that , I thought we wanted new politics a party of inclusion for all and I also thought that you all most always says you are tired of this one man decision Panday telling everyone what to do, this decision was made by the leadership council. We may all of wanted Panday but it was not just UNC call there were other groups involved now all of have an issue, its either you accept this is an alliance where they all have input or a one man show.

I can't understand the confusion now the people voted and this is the results, don't fall in the trap of acting as if this is a Indo party and only a Indian should be in charge is this what we all want for T&T nah man you cant be serious

JPersad
10-04-2007, 10:04 PM
JP so what wrong with Jack being leader of the alliance am surprised that you of all people cannot understand that move, Jack is Chairman of the Alliance I see nothing wrong with that so Jack ok to put funds in the party but he cannot lead anything what nonsene is that , I thought we wanted new politics a party of inclusion for all and I also thought that you all most always says you are tired of this one man decision Panday telling everyone what to do, this decision was made by the leadership council. We may all of wanted Panday but it was not just UNC call there were other groups involved now all of have an issue, its either you accept this is an alliance where they all have input or a one man show.

I can't understand the confusion now the people voted and this is the results, don't fall in the trap of acting as if this is a Indo party and only a Indian should be in charge is this what we all want for T&T nah man you cant be serious
I happy for Jack , if indeed alyuh putting him as the head honcho
But what will Bas do with Kamla since he promised her the top dog post ?

Maccogirl
10-04-2007, 10:27 PM
Kamla was in the decision making she was not left out the UNCA is about national unity not about who is going to be top dog we were all calling for change in the way things were done, now its up to the people to stand by this decision and not say Panday and Kamla with their power should call the shots or that its politically correct to have Kamla lead because she is of Indian decent, Indians are not the only persons that vote in this election and we should always understand that.

Sirius
10-04-2007, 10:53 PM
My issue with Jack getting the leadership is for the most part that he is leader of the UNC Alliance, but not the UNC. Within the UNC, he remains as deputy leader answering to Basdeo Panday. I have said it before - how can we accept an alliance leader who does not lead the party he comes from? When Panday says to jump, doesn't this mean Jack jumps? In my view, Panday is still in charge and that is a problem.

I found it interesting that when the CNC3 news crew approached Kamla and Stephen Cadiz after Jack was chosen leader, neither seemed very pleased with the choice. I would like to see where these two individuals go from here.

BW
10-04-2007, 11:27 PM
“We agree that the chairman of the executive council of the UNC Alliance who will lead the party into the next election will be Jack Warner. The senior partner will be Mr Panday...we will both work together,” the UNC deputy leader told reporters. link (http://www.guardian.co.tt/news9.html) and archive link (http://www.guardian.co.tt/archives/2007-10-05/news9.html)

Sounds doomed to failure. Who is the leader, Bas or Jack?

It eh matter though, they eh winning elections anyway. =\

Maccogirl
10-05-2007, 01:56 AM
If it was Kamla the talk would of been she keeping the seat warm for Bas, she is Bas puppet and cant stand up to Bas, now its Jack oh look how they treat Kamla we want Kamla, if it was Cadiz the talk would be he have no base, he know nothing about politics, Carson who is he NAR is a dead party, best they had pick someone from the LTL movement then.

Carson Charles did say he was supporting Jack, Kamla was going for Bas, Cadiz said Bas should not lead the party into elections and am 100% sure the LTL would go for Jack so exactly what is the problem the people talked they decided on what they wanted but its an issue, so much for unity I guess to the leadership of the UNCA its not a farse but it sure seems like when it comes to john public it is, the way I see it is Bas leading the indo section and Jack leading the black section in the leadership council everyone gets piece of the pie so no one can say and Indian would not look out for my interest because I black and vice versa.

Who in the COP is looking out for the black interest in their leadership I don't see anyone, there is no black person of importance in the leadership of the COP, so how anyone so sure by voting COP the black will get a fair shake if the COP wins, it all well and good to say our party is an all inclusive party but your executive does not reflect the make up of the population, why did not the COP have at least one deputy of the African race? Just check PNM and see how they do it, time for people to wake up, you all saying you want things to change but when you get change watch what happens is one set of noise.

So don't knock the PNM supporters when the vote race or feel its only a black man that can lead them to victory because looks like Indian people also do the same even though they love to pretend they don't, Kamal must now go to the COP why because a black man in charge so she must move over to the Indian party?
What if Jack does not win his seat and I am not even sure he running for one, but what if he did not and Kamal win hers because am sure she will what then ?

Every one seems to be concern about who will be PM if the UNCA wins, but that person has to win their seat first so deciding on x, y, or z now does it really matter, and all who studying that should think about Dookeran's position because he is facing two strong candidates in his area and from the word on the ground the PNM can take that seat away from the UNC so if that happens what will be the COP position in the mix of this thing. Exactly what is it that some of you vote for a particular party for ? It sure does not seem that you all vote for a party on issues seems a lot of you vote for a party on who is its leader and what race he/she is, funny how both races in T&T are the same but yet they always ready to point fingers at each other.

Scorpio
10-05-2007, 03:37 AM
So now Kamla knows how Dookeran felt when the UNC leadership was hijacked from him. :D

Solachica
10-05-2007, 05:32 AM
So now Kamla knows how Dookeran felt when the UNC leadership was hijacked from him. :D
Oh gosh scorpio some1 said these exact words to me last night. :lol:
You know I read in a post tht Kamla wud win her seat again. This may be true but wht gets to me is the people in her constituency always says tht she has done nothing for them but at the day of polls guess who they voting for :roll:

skl
10-05-2007, 06:15 AM
If it was Kamla the talk would of been she keeping the seat warm for Bas, she is Bas puppet and cant stand up to Bas, now its Jack oh look how they treat Kamla we want Kamla, if it was Cadiz the talk would be he have no base, he know nothing about politics, Carson who is he NAR is a dead party.


now you know why the UNCA doomed to failure.

The only person who could legitemately be the leader of the UNCA is Panday. So why he feel the need to hide behind Jack ?

vaio
10-05-2007, 07:46 AM
but isn't jack d 'interim' leader?

Somebody007
10-05-2007, 08:19 AM
Somebody ah could always count on you to miss me :D


yeah girl, ah miss yuh too bad.

Somebody007
10-05-2007, 08:21 AM
JP so what wrong with Jack being leader of the alliance am surprised that you of all people cannot understand that move, Jack is Chairman of the Alliance I see nothing wrong with that so Jack ok to put funds in the party but he cannot lead anything what nonsene is that , I thought we wanted new politics a party of inclusion for all and I also thought that you all most always says you are tired of this one man decision Panday telling everyone what to do, this decision was made by the leadership council. We may all of wanted Panday but it was not just UNC call there were other groups involved now all of have an issue, its either you accept this is an alliance where they all have input or a one man show.

I can't understand the confusion now the people voted and this is the results, don't fall in the trap of acting as if this is a Indo party and only a Indian should be in charge is this what we all want for T&T nah man you cant be serious


Why is it allyuh want to refer to UNC as an Indian party?? It is a political party, not an indian one.

Solachica
10-05-2007, 08:55 AM
This morning I heard kamla. She said it was the councils decision.
I don't know uf it was jyst me but how allyuh feel she sounded? I thought she sounded tired and disappointed.

Somebody007
10-05-2007, 09:02 AM
This morning I heard kamla. She said it was the councils decision.
I don't know uf it was jyst me but how allyuh feel she sounded? I thought she sounded tired and disappointed.

The woman is both tired and disappointed Solachica....she wukking overtime to get d big post and still continuing to get shaft....It has become quite clear to Kamla that she cannot move no further from where she is right now....even if she go to the COP, she still eh go move, nor will lead the political party....The woman is a grandmother and I feel when the time is right, she quitting politics soon.

JediKnight
10-05-2007, 09:25 AM
TheLight what did Bas win at the Privy Council today??...Can you clarify???

His retrial suppose to start on Oct 15th and run through the election but the Privy Council decided that it wouldn’t have any retrial and they would make the final judgment

Not quite. The Privy Council granted leave to appeal the issue of the re-trial and granted a temporary stay, pending their final determination in April next year. It is still open to them to allow a re-trial.

JediKnight
10-05-2007, 09:46 AM
What is all the fuss about is Jack all of you studying I think it was a brilliant move putting Jack instead of Kamla that is new politics all you take that, all the Indos that don't like it can move to COP this politics too high for them :D

We welcome them with open arms! ;)

JediKnight
10-05-2007, 09:57 AM
My issue with Jack getting the leadership is for the most part that he is leader of the UNC Alliance, but not the UNC. Within the UNC, he remains as deputy leader answering to Basdeo Panday. I have said it before - how can we accept an alliance leader who does not lead the party he comes from? When Panday says to jump, doesn't this mean Jack jumps? In my view, Panday is still in charge and that is a problem.

I found it interesting that when the CNC3 news crew approached Kamla and Stephen Cadiz after Jack was chosen leader, neither seemed very pleased with the choice. I would like to see where these two individuals go from here.

Everyone seems to be forgetting that at lunch time yesterday, Panday was on Radio Shakti saying that there will be no leader and that the Leadership Council will lead the UNC-A into the elections. A few hours later, Jack is apppointed Leader. After appointment, his first public statement to the press is that he and Bas in a partnership (personally I would change the "p" to another letter). When you look at his roots, Jack come from the UNC, where he is a Deputy Leader. In the UNC-A, he is supposedly the leader. Who really is the head and who is de tail? All sounds like a massive hood-winking of the population to propel Bas to Prime Minister once again. Then we go have 5 more stadia and 2 more airports, one in south and one in Tobago. Ah lovin this, to the UNC or UNC-A, who is your leader? And coincidentally, I have not seen any UNC-A offices, which entity will appear on the ballot papers, who will speak last at meetings? :?: :?: :?:

vaio
10-05-2007, 10:01 AM
well dey all goin up under the unc umbrella and most likely jack will be speakin last on Sunday... Bas might be jus before... but this doesn't really solve the leadership issue within the party since it might be just until election... and kamla and Cadiz not happy with the outcome at all..at all...

JediKnight
10-05-2007, 11:54 AM
well dey all goin up under the unc umbrella and most likely jack will be speakin last on Sunday... Bas might be jus before... but this doesn't really solve the leadership issue within the party since it might be just until election... and kamla and Cadiz not happy with the outcome at all..at all...

Sounds like you are not sure. And what is the UNC umbrella? Does that mean people will be voting UNC, as opposed to UNC-A? Then where does that put leadership? Its interesting to see who go outsmart who, Bas or Jack. I suppose after the election, if they win, there will be no need for financing from outside, there is the treasury for dat! So Jack could take he finances and go! :D

lou_uk
10-05-2007, 06:12 PM
well dey all goin up under the unc umbrella and most likely jack will be speakin last on Sunday... Bas might be jus before... but this doesn't really solve the leadership issue within the party since it might be just until election... and kamla and Cadiz not happy with the outcome at all..at all...

Cadiz has been down for weeks. As long as the COP stand their ground he will remain this way. On top ah dat, de man going up in Diego Martin = the end.

It will be interesting to see how many seats the UNC fight. A few months aback, before the Alliance attachment, they celebrated what was their 19th (?) birthday and Panday claimed they were then an adult, then an institution.

skl
10-05-2007, 06:25 PM
It will be interesting to see how many seats the UNC fight. A few months aback, before the Alliance attachment, they celebrated what was their 19th (?) birthday and Panday claimed they were then an adult, then an institution.

back in 1981 in the National Alliance , Panday ULF contest 12 seats and leave Tapia and the DAC to take the brunt of the PNM. I wonder if he go do the same this time.

skl
10-05-2007, 07:12 PM
hmmm Kamla and Cadiz both no shows a UNCA conference.......................tick tock tick tock

Maccogirl
10-05-2007, 08:25 PM
They must be gone by the COP now :D I wonder if Dooks will give her a leadership role and kick out Hulise or Wendy what you say SKL :D

Mr Majik
10-05-2007, 08:30 PM
OK...ah confused...
Ah cyah keep track of dis thread chronoogically. The time of de posts jumpin from Monday to Thursday and back again to Monday.

Admin...fix it nah!

slayerdave
10-05-2007, 08:35 PM
Everyone seems to be forgetting that at lunch time yesterday, Panday was on Radio Shakti saying that there will be no leader and that the Leadership Council will lead the UNC-A into the elections. A few hours later, Jack is apppointed Leader. After appointment, his first public statement to the press is that he and Bas in a partnership (personally I would change the "p" to another letter). When you look at his roots, Jack come from the UNC, where he is a Deputy Leader. In the UNC-A, he is supposedly the leader. Who really is the head and who is de tail? All sounds like a massive hood-winking of the population to propel Bas to Prime Minister once again. Then we go have 5 more stadia and 2 more airports, one in south and one in Tobago. Ah lovin this, to the UNC or UNC-A, who is your leader? And coincidentally, I have not seen any UNC-A offices, which entity will appear on the ballot papers, who will speak last at meetings? :?: :?: :?:

Ah semi-illiterate Jack is the Chairman of the UNC-A not the political leader............we sure an airport will go on your head now, because like the ears ain't to functional as well....

skl
10-05-2007, 08:45 PM
Ah semi-illiterate Jack is the Chairman of the UNC-A not the political leader............we sure an airport will go on your head now, because like the ears ain't to functional as well....


i still eh know what is jack 's function as Chairman. If what Panday say is true they still go have to choose a leader after the election.......so what the Chairman of the UNCA role is then ?

skl
10-05-2007, 08:51 PM
OK...ah confused...
Ah cyah keep track of dis thread chronoogically. The time of de posts jumpin from Monday to Thursday and back again to Monday.

Admin...fix it nah!

its fine for me.

you sure you arent looking at people's join date ?

sam48
10-05-2007, 09:22 PM
All of this is more smoke and mirrors from Panday.
Panday is leader of the UNC which is the only party that is bringing something to the table of the UNCA,all the rest are bringing is hope.
On that basis Panday can insist on being the leader of the UNCA as of right, but he is aware that even among his base supporters many are fed up of his brand of politics so he is going to "play ded to ketch cobo alive" waiting like a mapipee until the election is over.
As for Kamla, ditching and crossing over is nothing new because she contested the same Siparia seat for NAR and Govindra Roopnarine gih she the sweetest cutarse she ever get .
I understand Govind will be contesting the seat for COP so it not so easy as some of you think for her to win Siparia. Govind is one who opposed Bas style of politics long before COP and he is a favorite son of the area.

slayerdave
10-05-2007, 09:46 PM
All of this is more smoke and mirrors from Panday.
Panday is leader of the UNC which is the only party that is bringing something to the table of the UNCA,all the rest are bringing is hope.
On that basis Panday can insist on being the leader of the UNCA as of right, but he is aware that even among his base supporters many are fed up of his brand of politics so he is going to "play ded to ketch cobo alive" waiting like a mapipee until the election is over.
As for Kamla, ditching and crossing over is nothing new because she contested the same Siparia seat for NAR and Govindra Roopnarine gih she the sweetest cutarse she ever get .
I understand Govind will be contesting the seat for COP so it not so easy as some of you think for her to win Siparia. Govind is one who opposed Bas style of politics long before COP and he is a favorite son of the area.

Govindra Roopnarine is a politcal nobody in Siparia, I know I live here.......He's another political corpse who was riding the tail coat of Panday, now a necromancer by the name of Duck and Run with his band of corpses feel he could blow political life into that........man please.

skl
10-06-2007, 04:47 AM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161212442 (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161212442)

Chairman of YesTT Stephen Cadiz is expected to announce his resignation from the UNC Alliance on Monday.

"I just feel that we had a very good thing going, we could have made an excellent impact on the elections... I am not as confident as I was before," Cadiz told the Express yesterday. Cadiz's change of heart comes on the heels of the decision that UNC political leader Basdeo Panday and deputy political leader Jack Warner will be the dual leaders of the Alliance for the November 5 general election. When questioned if he will still attend the UNC rally at the Mid Centre Mall, Chaguanas, tomorrow, Cadiz said it was "doubtful".

Sources told the Express that Cadiz was the only person in the leadership council who supported Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar as leader. On Tuesday, members of the leadership council met and deliberated on the issue and agreed that Persad-Bissessar would be the preferred choice. Members at Tuesday's meeting were Panday, Cadiz, Persad-Bissessar, DPTT's Steve Alvarez and Laventille for Laventillians' Lennox Smith. Warner was out of the country and NAR leader Dr Carson Charles was absent.

Following that meeting, a smiling Cadiz had told the media that the "population will be pleased" with the choice for leader. Sources said at Tuesday's meeting everyone left with the notion that Persad-Bissessar was going to lead the alliance.

On Thursday, another meeting was held with Warner and Charles present and everything changed. Warner did not think that was a good idea and he wanted to be the frontliner of the party, sources said. That meeting lasted for several hours as sources said Cadiz was the only one who stood up and rejected Warner and Panday leading the alliance. Warner was said to have been adamant that he should lead, as it was his money being pumped into the party.

The dual leadership has fuelled anger and pain in the UNC camp and the electorate and one of the founding members of the party, Raymond Pallackdharrysingh, has withdrawn his membership and tendered his resignation.

Sources say that members in the UNC have tried to speak with Panday and Warner in Persad-Bissessar's defence, but both men are sticking to their guns. "Money talks, this is what it is turning out to be," said a source, who added that Panday has always preached he does not want the job but yet is not moving to give anyone else a chance.

Warner is the party's major financier and sources said an estimated $4 million is being shelled out from his pocket for the UNC Alliance meeting in Chaguanas tomorrow.
Martin Luther King III and over 100 Brazilian dancers and drummers are scheduled to be part of the event.

"Jack and Bas are a force to be reckoned with," said a source, adding that even if members stand up to them, nothing will change. Kamla had high hopes, the people had high hopes and everyone is just extremely disappointed, the source added.

Sources say Persad-Bissessar is very disappointed, sad and humiliated over what has transpired but she will remain strong and move forward into the election. The Express tried to contact Persad-Bissessar but calls to her phones went unanswered.

skl
10-06-2007, 04:50 AM
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161212452 (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161212452)


CHAOS has erupted in the UNC Alliance following a groundswell of protest over the move by Basdeo Panday to sideline Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar in favour of Jack Warner as head of the Alliance.

The shock move took place on Thursday night after the Alliance met at the House of Chan restaurant in Emerald Plaza, St Augustine, for nearly six hours to thrash out the leadership issue. Panday himself had proposed on Tuesday that Persad-Bissessar be the party's prime ministerial candidate, and the rest of the Alliance's leadership council, save for Jack Warner, had endorsed her.

Warner returned from New York on Thursday to attend the session, where sources said Panday took a surprising about turn, reverting to his original position that the Alliance contest the election leaderless, and a prime minister be chosen from the person who won his or her seat. Initially, sources said, all members, including Warner, felt that a leader was needed, but Panday was insistent.

About two hours into the session, Warner relented and agreed with him, and three hours later, won the support for the Panday-Warner duo from the majority of members, except YesTT's head, Stephen Cadiz. Sources said when it became clear to Cadiz that the party was not going to choose a leader, he expressed his anger at having been betrayed, only to be reprimanded for his "lack of political experience", a source said. Cadiz decided to pull out of the Alliance then and there, but that was just the beginning of the drama.

After the meeting ended at 7 p.m., Panday and Warner left to attend a UNC executive mobilisation meeting for Sunday's rally at the Chaguanas West constituency office.

Just after 10 p.m., sources said, members began receiving reports about a massive outburst of protest from supporters against the decision to go leaderless and to sideline the popular Persad-Bissessar. Sources said several supporters in various constituencies were cancelling maxi-taxis hired to go to the rally, as well as returning T-shirts. By yesterday, this had increased to some members like Dr Anderson Morris from the San Juan/Barataria office and Raymond Pallackdharrysingh officially resigning.

By 11 p.m., Panday and the other executive members were planning how to "patch things up" with Persad-Bissessar, sources said. After they saw Internet reports of yesterday's newspapers on the issue that night, they then decided they needed to do damage control, sources said. Chaguanas Mayor Dr Suruj Rambachan was chosen to invite Persad-Bissessar to the Chaguanas meeting because they are friends.

On arriving, she was asked by Panday to join him and Warner in endorsing the Alliance at yesterday's news conference. Sources said Persad-Bissessar never spoke to Warner, despite him saying yesterday that she told him she will always be there for the party. She told Panday she was a team player and left, after which the men of the executive met for a late-night drink.

By yesterday morning, however, they were panicking over the ongoing outpour of protest over the Panday move, sources said.

Sources said Persad-Bissessar called Rambachan by around 10 a.m. yesterday, telling him that she would not be able to attend the news conference as she had a family emergency.She even left a voicemail on Panday's cellphone about this, but at the news conference Warner said she was expected "any minute now". And when she did not show up, all present claimed not to know why.

Staff members at her constituency office confirmed yesterday that she was busy with preparations and mobilisation for tomorrow's rally, where they said she intends to deliver her address, as planned. It is expected she will talk about her take on the new political issues in her party.

ghost
10-06-2007, 06:22 AM
lawd kamla ent fed up being used as the unc doormat? like kamla back broader than dooks own... but everyone have a breaking point... i waiting to see which straw will break the kamla's back

Maccogirl
10-06-2007, 10:56 AM
Ghost Kamla back must be the same size as Valley own :D

lou_uk
10-06-2007, 12:06 PM
In my opinion, the only thing that could save UNC tomorrow is naming Kamla as main candidate for PM. I'll be watching.

peanut
10-06-2007, 01:32 PM
In my opinion, the only thing that could save UNC tomorrow is naming Kamla as main candidate for PM. I'll be watching.

They will have to do that within the next week if they are to stand a ghost of a chance.

Scorpio
10-06-2007, 01:40 PM
yep, UNC just shot themselves in the other foot... (the first shot foot was kickin out Dookeran)

Maccogirl
10-06-2007, 01:41 PM
Nah COP telling everyone Kamla will be at their rally today :D at least that is what is being reported on the radio when I turned they say from the ground out in South that is the rumor going around :D so all yuh celebrate :D

Sumana
10-06-2007, 01:43 PM
Nah COP telling everyone Kamla will be at their rally today :D at least that is what is being reported on the radio when I turned they say from the ground out in South that is the rumor going around :D so all yuh celebrate :D


let cop dream the frig on

peanut
10-06-2007, 01:47 PM
Nah COP telling everyone Kamla will be at their rally today :D at least that is what is being reported on the radio when I turned they say from the ground out in South that is the rumor going around :D so all yuh celebrate :D

What's to celebrate here MG? The fact that THE woman who have stood firm in the UNC, who gave her all for Party and Country and who rightfully deserved to be at the head to lead the UNC into this election was kicked aside by 2 ego maniacal pariahs?

I don't know who can find something in that to celebrate ... but I for one cannot.

Scorpio
10-06-2007, 01:48 PM
Nah COP telling everyone Kamla will be at their rally today :D at least that is what is being reported on the radio when I turned they say from the ground out in South that is the rumor going around :D so all yuh celebrate :D

What's to celebrate here MG? The fact that THE woman who have stood firm in the UNC, who gave her all for Party and Country and who rightfully deserved to be at the head to lead the UNC into this election was kicked aside by 2 ego maniacal pariahs?

I don't know who can find something in that to celebrate ... but I for one cannot.


Agreed !!

peanut
10-06-2007, 01:49 PM
Nah COP telling everyone Kamla will be at their rally today :D at least that is what is being reported on the radio when I turned they say from the ground out in South that is the rumor going around :D so all yuh celebrate :D


let cop dream the frig on

WHAT WE GO PUT ON THE United National Cadavers is no dream Baby, IT GO BE REAL CUTARSE AND LICKS FROM A SIDE.

Sumana
10-06-2007, 02:03 PM
Nah COP telling everyone Kamla will be at their rally today :D at least that is what is being reported on the radio when I turned they say from the ground out in South that is the rumor going around :D so all yuh celebrate :D


let cop dream the frig on

WHAT WE GO PUT ON THE United National Cadavers is no dream Baby, IT GO BE REAL CUTARSE AND LICKS FROM A SIDE.


If you read what I quoted, you would see why I said COP can dream the frig on - You're out of context - come again

peanut
10-06-2007, 02:25 PM
If you read what I quoted, you would see why I said COP can dream the frig on - You're out of context - come again[/quote]

There is no other context in which to put the UNC-A but in the category that states "irrelevant to the Politics of T&T"

Mr Majik
10-06-2007, 02:28 PM
OK...ah confused...
Ah cyah keep track of dis thread chronoogically. The time of de posts jumpin from Monday to Thursday and back again to Monday.

Admin...fix it nah!

its fine for me.

you sure you arent looking at people's join date ?
hahaha...yuh right! I accustom reading post date on de right side of de page
lol

TheLight
01-17-2010, 11:43 AM
JP so what wrong with Jack being leader of the alliance am surprised that you of all people cannot understand that move, Jack is Chairman of the Alliance I see nothing wrong with that so Jack ok to put funds in the party but he cannot lead anything what nonsene is that , I thought we wanted new politics a party of inclusion for all and I also thought that you all most always says you are tired of this one man decision Panday telling everyone what to do, this decision was made by the leadership council. We may all of wanted Panday but it was not just UNC call there were other groups involved now all of have an issue, its either you accept this is an alliance where they all have input or a one man show.

I can't understand the confusion now the people voted and this is the results, don't fall in the trap of acting as if this is a Indo party and only a Indian should be in charge is this what we all want for T&T nah man you cant be serious

Wow! How things have change, now you cussing Jack like that!

Maccogirl
01-17-2010, 11:45 AM
Light dont go there nah you will fall into your own trap so walk easy brother :D

TheLight
01-17-2010, 11:52 AM
Light dont go there nah you will fall into your own trap so walk easy brother :D

So you voting for Jack?

Falcon
01-17-2010, 12:05 PM
roflallyuh in fine form this evening

skl
01-17-2010, 12:30 PM
Light dont go there nah you will fall into your own trap so walk easy brother :D

so macco saying she fall in a trap ?

snowbird
01-17-2010, 03:56 PM
so macco saying she fall in a trap ?

Yeah.....'clap trap'
http://www.yourdictionary.com/claptrap

Angie
01-17-2010, 04:28 PM
lol lol @ SB

Maccogirl
01-17-2010, 04:56 PM
You mean you had to find the meaning of that in a dictionary now you see if you had stayed in T&T you would of know what that meant and would not of had to resort to looking it up first rofl

bigzack
01-17-2010, 07:25 PM
You mean you had to find the meaning of that in a dictionary now you see if you had stayed in T&T you would of know what that meant and would not of had to resort to looking it up first rofl

Maccs

When people head hard, it hard.

Some ah them wouldn't ah take in we great education if yuh did open dey brain and pour it in.

Slider
01-17-2010, 07:53 PM
Heard Kamla saying Bas is very good like a Mercedes Benz however he has a flat tyre and is without a JACK

Maccogirl
01-17-2010, 10:40 PM
Last night she was cussing Bas again, night before he was the greatest, that lady real confusing me yes, I wish she would make up her dam mind as to exactly what she feel Bas it like its a sea saw campaign she running rofl

Slider
01-17-2010, 11:16 PM
Well it look like it have a big "SAW" in that slate. All of a sudden after nomination day, people "SAW" off their name from the slate and if you put the Kamla slate over Jack's endorsements you are seeing a complete Slate for each position.

And if she wins, Dooks will be the man to take over things - and Hulsie will be the new Couva North MP

skl
01-18-2010, 04:19 AM
Last night she was cussing Bas againl really ? she call him a #$%^& or did she call him a *&@)( ! ?

TheLight
01-18-2010, 08:22 AM
Last night she was cussing Bas again, night before he was the greatest, that lady real confusing me yes, I wish she would make up her dam mind as to exactly what she feel Bas it like its a sea saw campaign she running rofl

If she cuss Bas yuh vex, if she praise Bas yuh vex....make up yuh dam mind nah!

saltwater
01-18-2010, 11:03 AM
Light like you want them to shut down Slider again.

dancerboy
01-18-2010, 12:36 PM
If she cuss Bas yuh vex, if she praise Bas yuh vex....make up yuh dam mind nah!

AYE, allyuh pleeze stop these comediic post. I am at a public place, a honda dealership. And ah laffing out loud like ah crazy. And people watching me funny. Ah go have to go to ah next thread, until ah get home.

DANCERBOY

Slider
01-19-2010, 04:41 PM
But this comedy is serious business. You eh see how radio stations rushing to cover these meetings and nobody eh buying tickets for the calypso tent

JPersad
01-19-2010, 05:51 PM
The UNC is a lost cause .
Any honest person will admit as much .

JPersad
01-19-2010, 05:53 PM
But this comedy is serious business. You eh see how radio stations rushing to cover these meetings and nobody eh buying tickets for the calypso tent
Things are tight .Also many stay away from the tents because of a few racist calysonians .

Maccogirl
01-19-2010, 06:58 PM
All yuh good yes like all yuh feel is thousands of people lining the street to listen to these clowns, people have no time to waste with this nonsense. What is makes is good forum banter, good old talk and picong, half the people that calling the radio stations cant vote in the people election but they busy talking while the PNM raido station jamming soca and thinking about WASA, Brass and Defence force fete rofl

Slider
01-19-2010, 09:17 PM
In them meetings you getting food, clothes, comedy and music during and after the meeting along with free transport. You think you could get all that from any other fete?

So far Kamla is drawing the largest crowds followed by Bas and Ramesh lags far behind. Actually Kamla's meetings are outdoors because of the quantity of people but Bas's and Ramesh's first few meetings have been indoors in schools and community centers though Bas has started to venture outdoors.

snowbird
01-21-2010, 06:04 AM
Looks like Ramesh is feeling the heat as he is busy kissing everybody a***

source: T&T Guardian http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/01/21/i-bounce-ramesh-ramnath-s-office-bas

says Ramesh....

“I went to Ramnath’s office on Tuesday to get a copy of my list and when I was coming out I saw Panday...we embrace and spoke"

"Am I not entitled to have conversations with my leader for the betterment of the party? “

" I talk to sister Kamla...I would always talk her,”

guyguy
01-21-2010, 06:33 AM
I think Mr. Panday needs to check his facts before making such statements, especially when he's belittling another person:
“You must have read the story of a ship called the Exxon Valdes. It was a tanker, a massive tanker carrying millions of dollars worth of oil from one place to another. “You know what happened to that tanker? That tanker ran aground on the east coast of Canada. All the oil all over the place killing all the animals."http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/01/21/panday-supporters-vote-sober-captain

Alaska is not in Canada and neither is it on the East Coast of the North American continent.

vaio
01-21-2010, 06:34 AM
Ramesh being careful because he know that Kamla may most likely win this one, no matter what Bas try to do with the list lol

I've been to a couple of Kamla's meetings and Bas' meetings and you can see the difference in the crowd. You can also feel the passion of the members who support Kamla, poor Bas lol

vaio
01-21-2010, 06:35 AM
I think Mr. Panday needs to check his facts before making such statements, especially when he's belittling another person:http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/01/21/panday-supporters-vote-sober-captain

Alaska is not in Canada and neither is it on the East Coast of the North American continent.

rofl rofl

skl
01-21-2010, 07:30 AM
I've been to a couple of Kamla's meetings and Bas' meetings and you can see the difference in the crowd. You can also feel the passion of the members who support Kamla, poor Bas lol

kamla have popular support but i wondering about that voters list.

vaio
01-21-2010, 07:52 AM
kamla have popular support but i wondering about that voters list.

That is a big concern, however Bas is taking people for granted and doesn't understand that quite a lot of ppl are digusted with him, especially the women supporters. He is padding the list just as he tried to do in that General Election and lost!

TheLight
01-21-2010, 07:57 AM
I think Mr. Panday needs to check his facts before making such statements, especially when he's belittling another person:http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/01/21/panday-supporters-vote-sober-captain

Alaska is not in Canada and neither is it on the East Coast of the North American continent.

He maybe get that info from Jack too :)

saltwater
01-21-2010, 10:09 AM
Well I have been a supporter of Basdeo for a long time and a supporter of Kamla since the last election. I followed what happened to Panday after the elections and have noticed his mental deterioration in terms of speeches, responses, etc. I find his constant personal attacks on Kamla is in bad taste esp how he trying to paint her as drunk and knowing of how he was a drunk. Once he was in my brother in law's house and before the evening ended he ended up drunk on the couch and everybody have to make excuses for him. It have plenty stories like this from varied sources.
As a woman he has lost what little respect I had left for him.

TheLight
01-21-2010, 10:52 AM
Well I have been a supporter of Basdeo for a long time and a supporter of Kamla since the last election. I followed what happened to Panday after the elections and have noticed his mental deterioration in terms of speeches, responses, etc. I find his constant personal attacks on Kamla is in bad taste esp how he trying to paint her as drunk and knowing of how he was a drunk. Once he was in my brother in law's house and before the evening ended he ended up drunk on the couch and everybody have to make excuses for him. It have plenty stories like this from varied sources.
As a woman he has lost what little respect I had left for him.

Now Macco go cuss yuh, better hide :)

snowbird
01-21-2010, 11:37 AM
Well I have been a supporter of Basdeo for a long time and a supporter of Kamla since the last election. I followed what happened to Panday after the elections and have noticed his mental deterioration in terms of speeches, responses, etc. I find his constant personal attacks on Kamla is in bad taste esp how he trying to paint her as drunk and knowing of how he was a drunk. Once he was in my brother in law's house and before the evening ended he ended up drunk on the couch and everybody have to make excuses for him. It have plenty stories like this from varied sources.
As a woman he has lost what little respect I had left for him.

Is allright, he is an Indo man.....he allowed tuh geh drunk.....buh Kami, she good, doh worry bout her, she conducting herself real nice...GO KAMI, GO KAMI, GO KAMI

Slider
01-21-2010, 11:54 AM
I remembered when they used to call them the Awesome Foursome

http://guardian.co.tt/files/imagecache/article_main_image_stretched/articles/images/rivals_0.png

dancerboy
01-21-2010, 12:31 PM
I remembered when they used to call them the Awesome Foursome

http://guardian.co.tt/files/imagecache/article_main_image_stretched/articles/images/rivals_0.png

They are still awesome 'for' some. As ah matter of fact, dey more awesome now.

DANCERBOY

Slider
01-21-2010, 12:43 PM
Jack is the 1st man I see make a "Peace" sign with his left hand

dancerboy
01-21-2010, 04:23 PM
Jack is the 1st man I see make a "Peace" sign with his left hand

De whey he holding KAMLA, like he was looking for another kind ah "Piece".


DANCERBOY

snowbird
01-21-2010, 05:23 PM
I think Mr. Panday needs to check his facts before making such statements, especially when he's belittling another person:http://guardian.co.tt/news/politics/2010/01/21/panday-supporters-vote-sober-captain

Alaska is not in Canada and neither is it on the East Coast of the North American continent.

Shush.....if dey want tuh give it tuh us.....we good; by the way we own the Northwest Passge too....ent.

BW
01-21-2010, 05:47 PM
“You must have read the story of a ship called the Exxon Valdes. It was a tanker, a massive tanker carrying millions of dollars worth of oil from one place to another. “You know what happened to that tanker? That tanker ran aground on the east coast of Canada. All the oil all over the place killing all the animals."

One of the more epic lines in T&T politics right there, ladies and gentlemen. Panday will be remembered in history not for any election he might win these days... but that, quoted above, will be his new legacy.

Slider
01-21-2010, 06:04 PM
Panday saying that he is disappointed that Kamla's slate aligning with Jack and the others to not compete against each other so they could go up 1-on-1 against Panday's Patriots.

But in 2007, wasn't this the same Bas that was telling the COP to have an accomodation so they could compete 1-on-1 against the PNM so as not to split the vote.

How come Panday changing his tune now?

Maccogirl
01-21-2010, 06:09 PM
What a sad pic a bunch of total idiots the entire lot of them :rolleyes:

Slider
01-21-2010, 06:13 PM
Maccs, you know Light would want to jump on your deck if he hear you saying that kind of things.

Maccogirl
01-21-2010, 06:44 PM
Light know how I feel I have told him over and over, not me and this UNC nonsense I really wonder how all of them going to sit after the 24th and work together no matter who in charge, all they have done is given the PNM plenty fire power to hit them with. Look how Imbert start already saying all of them fighting like Gorgon for a post and he dam right I would jam them every day for they dam nonsense, they have made the party a laughing stock and a entity of ridicule.

I will sit and enjoy the show from here on in because it is going to be real kicks from the 25th, I have said that over and over, and all who did not want to give PNM or Manning total control of the house well they can now kiss that thought goodbye, come next election is cut arse for them, they better keep watching them 15 seats they have because they will never get more than that again rofl

letric
01-22-2010, 01:43 PM
No passion so effectually robs the mind of all its
powers of acting and reasoning as fear.

Edmund Burke (1729-97)

snowbird
01-22-2010, 02:17 PM
Light know how I feel I have told him over and over, not me and this UNC nonsense I really wonder how all of them going to sit after the 24th and work together no matter who in charge, all they have done is given the PNM plenty fire power to hit them with. Look how Imbert start already saying all of them fighting like Gorgon for a post and he dam right I would jam them every day for they dam nonsense, they have made the party a laughing stock and a entity of ridicule.

I will sit and enjoy the show from here on in because it is going to be real kicks from the 25th, I have said that over and over, and all who did not want to give PNM or Manning total control of the house well they can now kiss that thought goodbye, come next election is cut arse for them, they better keep watching them 15 seats they have because they will never get more than that again rofl

AA, like it well windy in T&T boy......Maccs blowing back over tuh de PNN.....AGAIN

allyuh, watch and see just now we go hear what a good job Patos doin.

Maccs wappen? Like Panday lettin yuh dong wid all de chuppidness he torkin?

Maccogirl
01-22-2010, 06:13 PM
Like you cant read too well maybe you need to read it over and over then you will get it, but then again you like to come on here and read line and pretend you know exactly what going on in T&T politicsroflrofloh I forgot you is one of those that believe Kamla can beat the PNM all she has to do is move Panday okkkkkk cookie carry on roflrofl

snowbird
01-22-2010, 06:25 PM
See, that is where some ah allyuh UNC supporters confused.....allyuh think ah person is ah party.....as in Bas is the UNC.

.....Kamla can't beat the PNM......but a GROUP led by Kamla certainly can.

See the difference Maccs, 'she' being part of a larger body, all with one common purpose, to advance T&T and do right by the taxpayers, all of them;

unlike he. 'Bas' with one agenda only.....to wrestle the 'big house' away from Patos.

shield_2006
01-22-2010, 06:39 PM
Allyuh good oui--Panday have he list and know who voting and how they voting and all this Alaska Valdez doh make one iota of a difference to the election outcome--period. PANDAY FOREVER

Sly1
01-22-2010, 06:50 PM
Okay shield_2006 Panday forever! I can see that he can be UNC head forever and that will keep him in opposition forever.

Slider
01-22-2010, 07:25 PM
Well then I second that ... PANDAY FOREVER