Dookeran a CLASS act

[sugarnuts]

I was pleased to hear Mr Dookeran's comments after the the results were evident. He showed a lot of class by congratulating not only the PNM, but also UNC. As a matter of fact, I wanted him to win his seat in St Agustine. For me, it was the only disappointment in this election.

On the other hand, Mr Panday, like the loser he is, blamed everyone but himself for his defeat. Who did he blamed the last time, and the time before that? The people who supported him over the years deserved better leadership. The country deserve a better opposition. Panday lack class and statesmanship. To call the people who exercise their right to vote in our democracy, criminals and mafia, proves that he did not deserve their votes. He is the only communist dictator. And whats up with the red beret? Does he think he is Che Guavera. The only way the UNC can expect to form the Government is to get rid of Panday. He is the problem. The country cannot afford to elect a party with so much internal fighting and a history of splits and division. "Unity"? thats a joke under Panday.

Let me once again congratulate the People's National Movement for a great victory. As long as the opposition remains divided, they will continue to rule. :)

[Maccogirl]

Right and Dookeran did not blame his self or the COP supporters for their lost he blamed the entire population of T&T telling all of us we not ready for change and why is that because people voted UNCA or PNM??

Maybe people felt that Dookeran and the COP could not offer any real change to their lives. Giving a man a free laptop and he cant pay the dam Internet bills to use the laptop just does not make sense to him, would that make sense to a poor man that does not even have a phone in his home, no Dookeran its not that they did not want change they just did not want your kind of change whatever that was :roll:

[vaio]

Right and Dookeran did not blame his self or the COP supporters for their lost he blamed the entire population of T&T telling all of us we not ready for change and why is that because people voted UNCA or PNM??

Maybe people felt that Dookeran and the COP could not offer any real change to their lives. Giving a man a free laptop and he cant pay the dam Internet bills to use the laptop just does not make sense to him, would that make sense to a poor man that does not even have a phone in his home, no Dookeran its not that they did not want change they just did not want your kind of change whatever that was :roll:

Actually over 100,000 ppl supported the COP, their plans...it was not however enough to win any seats but fact remains they got a lot of votes than anyone had thought.. :geek:

[Sirius]

Right and Dookeran did not blame his self or the COP supporters for their lost he blamed the entire population of T&T telling all of us we not ready for change and why is that because people voted UNCA or PNM??

Maybe people felt that Dookeran and the COP could not offer any real change to their lives. Giving a man a free laptop and he cant pay the dam Internet bills to use the laptop just does not make sense to him, would that make sense to a poor man that does not even have a phone in his home, no Dookeran its not that they did not want change they just did not want your kind of change whatever that was :roll:

But he did not berate the electorate for that decision. He offered something, and the population chose otherwise. He respected that wish with grace and dignity. Yes he does not think the population was ready for what he was offering. But he respected that.

Panday has a lot to learn. Dookeran was a class act last night. Hearing his speech I can feel proud of supporting him despite the loss because it confirms that I voted for a party of respect and integrity. Panday's speech on the other hand embodied why I can not and will not support him.

[Maccogirl]

You voted for a party of respect and integrity, I guess PNM and UNCA supporters don't possess those qualities because we did not vote COP, that is the major problem with some of you COP supporters that is why not a dam seat for you :lol: :lol:

[vaio]

Panday has a lot to learn. Dookeran was a class act last night. Hearing his speech I can feel proud of supporting him despite the loss because it confirms that I voted for a party of respect and integrity. Panday's speech on the other hand embodied why I can not and will not support him.

AGreed. I was so proud of Mr Dookeran......i wonder if Bas' supporters were proud of him when he made his "speech" :?: ....such anger and venom coming from someone who aspired to one of the highest offices in our country. :!:

[Somebody007]

Yeah Dookeran gave a good speech last night unlike Mr. Panday......as usual nah....

[halo]

Lets all be nice here. I admired Dooks' speech. Panday was definitely hurt and dissappointed but let his emotions get the better of him. Both sides to blame, COP and UNCA for not accomodating and the UNC for not making Kamla it's leader. Dookeran to blame for letting others lead him. Panday to be blamed for not stepping down in the interest of the UNC.

Going forward I hope Kamla is made Opposition leader. And hopefully with ramesh in the house the PNM will have a strong fight on their hands.

[Somebody007]

Lets all be nice here. I admired Dooks' speech. Panday was definitely hurt and dissappointed but let his emotions get the better of him. Both sides to blame, COP and UNCA for not accomodating and the UNC for not making Kamla it's leader. Dookeran to blame for letting others lead him. Panday to be blamed for not stepping down in the interest of the UNC.

Going forward I hope Kamla is made Opposition leader. And hopefully with ramesh in the house the PNM will have a strong fight on their hands.


I heard Panday shed some tears last night....is this true?

[vaio]

Lets all be nice here. I admired Dooks' speech. Panday was definitely hurt and dissappointed but let his emotions get the better of him. Both sides to blame, COP and UNCA for not accomodating and the UNC for not making Kamla it's leader. Dookeran to blame for letting others lead him. Panday to be blamed for not stepping down in the interest of the UNC.

Going forward I hope Kamla is made Opposition leader. And hopefully with ramesh in the house the PNM will have a strong fight on their hands.


I heard Panday shed some tears last night....is this true?

yep and he was cussin hands down!!!

[Maccogirl]

Right so all of you were there so you all know what happened just like Dr. Charles getting locked up, look COP try a thing, they mess it up and lorse so move on people nothing more to see here but in the meantime I go jam all yuh daily so like harden children you all will learn :lol: :lol:

[Somebody007]

Right so all of you were there so you all know what happened just like Dr. Charles getting locked up, look COP try a thing, they mess it up and lorse so move on people nothing more to see here but in the meantime I go jam all yuh daily so like harden children you all will learn :lol: :lol:


Maccogirl we go continue to pressure the UNC till Panday leaves politics completely.

[Maccogirl]

No problem nobody Bas accustomed with that :lol: we will "Stand Tall" so I am not afraid of that trust me :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Somebody007]

No problem nobody Bas accustomed with that :lol: we will "Stand Tall" so I am not afraid of that trust me :lol: :lol: :lol:



Yes Stand Tall with him in Golden Grove.

[Solachica]

People still hoping Kamla wud get anything position of substance in the unc?

[kemist]

i am still baffled how so many are interpreting that the cop split the votes and they are to blame for unc losing the elections. That may be the case for some areas but not all. Yes in some areas, the combined unc and cop votes were more than pnm, but that does not say a unc-cop alliance would have attracted that amount of votes.
with a unc-cop alliance, there may still have been many undecided or those who would not have voted at all or more voting for the pnm.

perhaps Bas does not believe that over 100000 people in this country can think independently and rationally for themselves and not just blindly follow the masses.

[vaio]

Kemist Bas feelin he still in the 1960s where everyone is sugar workers..

[cm103]

Doh be surprised if Bas come back on he walker at 79 years old for another shot at the PM spot. This go be after his release on health grounds again.

By that time the UNC will be a friends and family party only. The tide shifting and it starting to show that already.

[Somebody007]

If is one thing most PNMites will agree on, we all would have preferred to see Dookeran win his seat in St. Augustine over the man who imported dog rice to this country. From a PNM standpoint, Dookeran has more integrity than Panday will ever have.

[vaio]

more than Bas and Patos put together..

[sugarnuts]

If Panday could not fespect the wishes of his own party's internal election for leadership, why should we expect him to respect the wishes of the people. Dookeran won the election for leadership of the UNC. Like a true dictator, force Dookeran out of the party. He cannot function under someone else. Thats why every political party he is a part of always have a split, brake up, or confusion. Now he bring another snake in the party Jack Warner. They both suite each other.

[sugarnuts]

If is one thing most PNMites will agree on, we all would have preferred to see Dookeran win his seat in St. Augustine over the man who imported dog rice to this country. From a PNM standpoint, Dookeran has more integrity than Panday will ever have.

I totally agree. I hope the COP contest the local government elections ;)

[sugarnuts]

Dookeran would have more credibility in the opposition. When UNC realize that panday is the problem, they will have more success. :o

[vaio]

Dookeran would have more credibility in the opposition. When UNC realize that panday is the problem, they will have more success. :o

they KNOW that he is the problem...they just don' t have the ballz or the know-how to be rid of him..

[Somebody007]

Dookeran would have more credibility in the opposition. When UNC realize that panday is the problem, they will have more success. :o

they KNOW that he is the problem...they just don' t have the ballz or the know-how to be rid of him..

or is it because Panday is an indian and a hindu hence why they don't want him to leave?

[vaio]

007, i think most ppl within the UNC want Bas out of the UNC as leader.... but he is a charasmatic person and still has a lot of support...but he really is not adding value to his party.....he needs to let the younger ppl lead from now so that if and when he leaves the UNC can transform itself into a viable party...he is creatin monsters out of those ppl by teasin them with the leadership.....he can't seem to understand that and no one can say it to his face..

[halo]

or is it because Panday is an indian and a hindu hence why they don't want him to leave?

Eh? I don't see what that has anything to do with anything...

[cm103]

007, i think most ppl within the UNC want Bas out of the UNC as leader.... but he is a charasmatic person and still has a lot of support...but he really is not adding value to his party.....he needs to let the younger ppl lead from now so that if and when he leaves the UNC can transform itself into a viable party...he is creatin monsters out of those ppl by teasin them with the leadership.....he can't seem to understand that and no one can say it to his face..

He was probably the strongest as the 'special advisor' in the UNC. Problem was that he advise himself he would be better off leading.

[Parsifal]

Lets all be nice here. I admired Dooks' speech. Panday was definitely hurt and dissappointed but let his emotions get the better of him. Both sides to blame, COP and UNCA for not accomodating and the UNC for not making Kamla it's leader. Dookeran to blame for letting others lead him. Panday to be blamed for not stepping down in the interest of the UNC.

Going forward I hope Kamla is made Opposition leader. And hopefully with ramesh in the house the PNM will have a strong fight on their hands.

Ramesh's first fight is going to be with Kamla not the PNM.

[vaio]

007, i think most ppl within the UNC want Bas out of the UNC as leader.... but he is a charasmatic person and still has a lot of support...but he really is not adding value to his party.....he needs to let the younger ppl lead from now so that if and when he leaves the UNC can transform itself into a viable party...he is creatin monsters out of those ppl by teasin them with the leadership.....he can't seem to understand that and no one can say it to his face..

He was probably the strongest as the 'special advisor' in the UNC. Problem was that he advise himself he would be better off leading.

He shld get Jack to hire someone to advise him then..... :P

[JediKnight]

I beg to disagree with you Parsi. I don't think that Kamla has that kind of fight left in her. It is clear that her performance at Mid Centre was an act. She has settled beautifully into her usual submissive role. Kamla has now been far too weakened to be a credible Opposition Leader, moreso with Panday and Ramesh in Parliament. I think that if Panday refuses the position, there is little choice but Ramesh, assuming that he wants it. At the end of the day there isn't really going to be a fight, it will be who Panday wants. Jack already said no. Look out for Mickela (just kidding). On a lighter note Parsi, I left you a message on another thread. While you were busy in Tunapuna running down a UTT contract, the Ladies of the COP did not fail to impress on Saturday... The pictures on this thread were a joke compared to Saturday. ;)

[Maccogirl]

You should not study Ramesh what you need to study is how this green horn government that Manning now has around him going to function facing some seasoned members on the Opposition benches :lol:

[JediKnight]

It will be quite funny to see them stand up to Panday in full flight, Ramesh's knowledge of the law and Parliamentary practice and Ramnath's ruthless venom. All I can say is that I hope they get a strong Speaker. :D

[TheLight]

Dookeran a CLASS act

Dividing the opposition votes and causing PNM to win is a real class act,

Declaring himself prime minister on Saturday and losing his seat on Monday is a real class act,

[Parsifal]

I beg to disagree with you Parsi. I don't think that Kamla has that kind of fight left in her. It is clear that her performance at Mid Centre was an act. She has settled beautifully into her usual submissive role. Kamla has now been far too weakened to be a credible Opposition Leader, moreso with Panday and Ramesh in Parliament. I think that if Panday refuses the position, there is little choice but Ramesh, assuming that he wants it. At the end of the day there isn't really going to be a fight, it will be who Panday wants. Jack already said no. Look out for Mickela (just kidding). On a lighter note Parsi, I left you a message on another thread. While you were busy in Tunapuna running down a UTT contract, the Ladies of the COP did not fail to impress on Saturday... The pictures on this thread were a joke compared to Saturday. ;)

......but nothing can soothe a simmering ambition.

Kamla is not prepared to fight Bas (she knows better) but she will fight Ramesh any day.

They have some more "dancing and stabbing" to do with each other.

Read my posts in the The Ascendancy of Ramesh thread.

Mikhela is going to become a person of interest in the UNC. She is attractive, bright and most importantly (when one understands parochial organizations) they have a strong tendency to become dynastic. look at the Congress party in India, the Bhuttos in Pakistan and the Shahs in Bangladesh.

Mikhela is going to lead the party some day.

[sapodila]

You should not study Ramesh what you need to study is how this green horn government that Manning now has around him going to function facing some seasoned members on the Opposition benches :lol:
That observation should have been made before voting PNM..... not so? Worry time start rite? Even I questioned wey the ras Patos get all dem young indians to side wid him, to become his cannidates.....even an idiot who went to school with me, running for pnm..............he lost to........ unc :lol: :lol: :lol: .

I beg to disagree with you Parsi. I don't think that Kamla has that kind of fight left in her. It is clear that her performance at Mid Centre was an act. She has settled beautifully into her usual submissive role. Kamla has now been far too weakened to be a credible Opposition Leader, moreso with Panday and Ramesh in Parliament. I think that if Panday refuses the position, there is little choice but Ramesh, assuming that he wants it. At the end of the day there isn't really going to be a fight, it will be who Panday wants. Jack already said no. Look out for Mickela (just kidding). On a lighter note Parsi, I left you a message on another thread. While you were busy in Tunapuna running down a UTT contract, the Ladies of the COP did not fail to impress on Saturday... The pictures on this thread were a joke compared to Saturday. ;)

......but nothing can soothe a simmering ambition.

Kamla is not prepared to fight Bas (she knows better) but she will fight Ramesh any day.

They have some more "dancing and stabbing" to do with each other.

Read my posts in the The Ascendancy of Ramesh thread.

Mikhela is going to become a person of interest in the UNC. She is attractive, bright and most importantly (when one understands parochial organizations) they have a strong tendency to become dynastic. look at the Congress party in India, the Bhuttos in Pakistan and the Shahs in Bangladesh.

Mikhela is going to lead the party some day.

Not so fast.............Miikhela is beautiful yes.........but dynasty in Triniland? Please! It have some much much smarter and vibrant young women in Triniland who would one day raise up to the top.

[iramjohn]

Mikhela is going to become a person of interest in the UNC. She is attractive, bright and most importantly (when one understands parochial organizations) they have a strong tendency to become dynastic. look at the Congress party in India, the Bhuttos in Pakistan and the Shahs in Bangladesh.

Mikhela is going to lead the party some day.

Within 12 months is my guess.

[scrunter]

Panday has a lot to learn. Dookeran was a class act last night. Hearing his speech I can feel proud of supporting him despite the loss because it confirms that I voted for a party of respect and integrity. Panday's speech on the other hand embodied why I can not and will not support him.

AGreed. I was so proud of Mr Dookeran......i wonder if Bas' supporters were proud of him when he made his "speech" :?: ....such anger and venom coming from someone who aspired to one of the highest offices in our country. :!:


I am an extremely proud of panday for speaking his as he always does.Somebody had to say it and who better than the man who help Dooks when he could not win a seat to get into government.

The good thing is I spoke to a lot of COP supporters and unlike some of you in here who are spitting brimstone and fire they acknowledge that it's time to move on so you all continue to insult and cuss you are in the minority .

[Sirius]

Panday has a lot to learn. Dookeran was a class act last night. Hearing his speech I can feel proud of supporting him despite the loss because it confirms that I voted for a party of respect and integrity. Panday's speech on the other hand embodied why I can not and will not support him.

AGreed. I was so proud of Mr Dookeran......i wonder if Bas' supporters were proud of him when he made his "speech" :?: ....such anger and venom coming from someone who aspired to one of the highest offices in our country. :!:


I am an extremely proud of panday for speaking his as he always does.Somebody had to say it and who better than the man who help Dooks when he could not win a seat to get into government.

The good thing is I spoke to a lot of COP supporters and unlike some of you in here who are spitting brimstone and fire they acknowledge that it's time to move on so you all continue to insult and cuss you are in the minority .

Just for the record; we aren't the ones spitting fire and brimstone. The cussing and insulting if you take a look at the threads have not for the most part been coming from the COP crowd. All we are saying is Panday's speech last night has cemented that we and others who think like us will never return to the UNC fold at least under Panday. Without that base, the UNC would be doomed to opposition forever. Most people are ready to move on, but when elections are called again, how many of these do you think are going to just ups and vote for Panday again?

[Sumana]

Yeah Dookeran have class ent? I guess that's why Dookeran's been telling off his long time friends when he sees them and finds out they not supporting him. I guess that's why Dookeran telling people "i'm not s haking your hand you don't support me" yeah that's real class.

[Somebody007]

Yeah Dookeran have class ent? I guess that's why Dookeran's been telling off his long time friends when he sees them and finds out they not supporting him. I guess that's why Dookeran telling people "i'm not s haking your hand you don't support me" yeah that's real class.


Dookeran is the real deal girl....he better than Kentucky Fried Chicken.

[peanut]

If is one thing most PNMites will agree on, we all would have preferred to see Dookeran win his seat in St. Augustine over the man who imported dog rice to this country. From a PNM standpoint, Dookeran has more integrity than Panday will ever have.

What you talking about ... Dem PNM people laughing at the COP :lol: :lol: :lol:

[kemist]

responding to the last post by somebody007 on page 1


Its because of Bas' large grassroot support. Many of them have permanently imprinted in their minds, that nostalgic view of bas from the 60's and refuse to see who he is today. As long as the majority of that unc base is loyal to Bas, none of the party members would stand up to him without committing political suicide. They just have to wait him out and see if he attempts to make the party a 'panday dynasty' by pushing his daughter into leadership.

[Somebody007]

If is one thing most PNMites will agree on, we all would have preferred to see Dookeran win his seat in St. Augustine over the man who imported dog rice to this country. From a PNM standpoint, Dookeran has more integrity than Panday will ever have.

What you talking about ... Dem PNM people laughing at the COP :lol: :lol: :lol:


No, not at all....PNM people would have been glad to see Dookeran in Parliment.....go ask PNMites in Trinidad this question. From where you at, is it possible for you to go to Port of Spain to ask this question?? lol.... :D :D :D

[Somebody007]

If is one thing most PNMites will agree on, we all would have preferred to see Dookeran win his seat in St. Augustine over the man who imported dog rice to this country. From a PNM standpoint, Dookeran has more integrity than Panday will ever have.

What you talking about ... Dem PNM people laughing at the COP :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ah also know why you would make this comment.......Because COP and UNC fighting right now, you would expect by making this comment, it would affect the psyche of the COPers on the forum so they would begin attacking the PNMites on the forum. Yuh see how bad UNC is....evil tactics never worked on us. COP we as PNMites support.

[peanut]

No, not at all....PNM people would have been glad to see Dookeran in Parliment.....go ask PNMites in Trinidad this question. From where you at, is it possible for you to go to Port of Spain to ask this question?? lol.... :D :D :D

Ahm, the PNM used the COP to win this election and the only reason they would have liked to see him win his seat is so that he could unite with them so Manning could get the number of seats he wanted. THAT MY FRIEND CAME DIRECTLY FROM PNMites!

[Somebody007]

No, not at all....PNM people would have been glad to see Dookeran in Parliment.....go ask PNMites in Trinidad this question. From where you at, is it possible for you to go to Port of Spain to ask this question?? lol.... :D :D :D

Ahm, the PNM used the COP to win this election and the only reason they would have liked to see him win his seat is so that he could unite with them so Manning could get the number of seats he wanted. THAT MY FRIEND CAME DIRECTLY FROM PNMites!


Ah wish COP take away all UNC seats...anyways local gov't elections coming up shortly......doh hold your breath for too long....inhale what I just said and allow COP to enter into your bloodstream.

[BW]

^^^agreed

less UNC = better for everybody

[peanut]

Ah wish COP take away all UNC seats...anyways local gov't elections coming up shortly......doh hold your breath for too long....inhale what I just said and allow COP to enter into your bloodstream.

What local Gov't election? Don't hold yuh breathe dey Pallie.

[snowbird]

Lets all be nice here. I admired Dooks' speech. Panday was definitely hurt and dissappointed but let his emotions get the better of him. Both sides to blame, COP and UNCA for not accomodating and the UNC for not making Kamla it's leader. Dookeran to blame for letting others lead him. Panday to be blamed for not stepping down in the interest of the UNC.

Going forward I hope Kamla is made Opposition leader. And hopefully with ramesh in the house the PNM will have a strong fight on their hands.


I heard Panday shed some tears last night....is this true?

yep and he was cussin hands down!!!

Yep, such a classy guy, just the type of role model you want for the young people who voted for the first time, something to aspire to........ " Yep, some day I want to go into politics, I want to lead a party, and when my party looses an election, I want to blame every else, and instead of being gracious and acknowledging the efforts of both the winner and the looser, I will instead cuss up and carry one like a common hooligan..... Ah Bas your Trade Union days are over, you are no longer out there in the cane fields, try to act like an Elder Statesman.

[Sumana]

yup,same goes for Dookeran, some day i'll go into politics, and if you don't support me, i'll publicly abuse you and cuss u and berate you just like Dookeran's been doing to this friends.

[Maccogirl]

Well I would cuss dookeran also when I see thing like this PNM: 299,813 UNC-A & COP: 342,466

A combined effort in this election between the COP and UNCA would of given the opposition 19 seat to PNM 21 making life very difficult for Manning in the next five years but unfortunately it is not so now :roll:

[vaio]

wow..Bas is training his supporters well....they want to be just like him... :lol: :lol:

[vaio]

Just for the record; we aren't the ones spitting fire and brimstone. The cussing and insulting if you take a look at the threads have not for the most part been coming from the COP crowd. All we are saying is Panday's speech last night has cemented that we and others who think like us will never return to the UNC fold at least under Panday. Without that base, the UNC would be doomed to opposition forever. Most people are ready to move on, but when elections are called again, how many of these do you think are going to just ups and vote for Panday again?[/quote]

Sirius...they cannot see how much hate and venom is coming from the UNC camp....a lot of ppl were turned of by Bas' speech even his supporters....

[peanut]

Why cuss MG .. IT IS FINISHED, votes were casted, the ballots counted. RESULTS = PNM Gov't .. UNC Opposition and COP nothing.

It is time to move on in the knowledge that people power is always greater than the Opposition as they have the ability to cause the Gov't to bend to the will of the people. It is time for UNC and COP supporters come to a consensus to work together for a beter T&T.

[cm103]

Why cuss MG .. IT IS FINISHED, votes were casted, the ballots counted. RESULTS = PNM Gov't .. UNC Opposition and COP nothing.

It is time to move on in the knowledge that people power is always greater than the Opposition as they have the ability to cause the Gov't to bend to the will of the people. It is time for UNC and COP supporters come to a consensus to work together for a beter T&T.

True that peanut, but the issue of a leadership will arise once again. Since neither party right now is looking to merge we need to get leaders who are mature enough to get along with each other and can be respected by the supporters of each opposition party.

[peanut]

True that peanut, but the issue of a leadership will arise once again. Since neither party right now is looking to merge we need to get leaders who are mature enough to get along with each other and can be respected by the supporters of each opposition party.

This is by far one of the most intelligent response I have heard yet on any of the topics being discussed. What we have to keep in mind is this, our Political Leaders have as much power as we the supporters give them.

[TheLight]

I wonder if Dookeran know what he has done,

We are stuck with PNM for LIFE!

Manning going to make every marginal a PMM safe seat with his housing project

[vaio]

I wonder if Dookeran know what he has done,

We are stuck with PNM for LIFE!

Manning going to make every marginal a PMM safe seat with his housing project

Light, the same crap from you on EVERY THREAD :roll: ....gosh think for yourself nah :roll: ...enough with the blaming :roll: ...you do know how to think, right???!!! :roll: :roll:

[peanut]

Vaio, Light is correct in that analysis and that is why I keep reiterating it will take the PNM to beat the PNM 8-)

[vaio]

Vaio, Light is correct in that analysis and that is why I keep reiterating it will take the PNM to beat the PNM 8-)

Peanut - that is simply YOUR opinion..

[peanut]

NO it is not and the history throughtout the life of the PNM will prove that.

[TheLight]

PNM got 309,000 votes in 2002 election
their performance over the last 5 years was horrible yet PNM got 299,000 votes in this election, Do you understand what that mean? PNM supporters will prefer dead than vote for any other party,

[vaio]

PNM supporters will continue to support PNM no matter what..

[TheLight]

Vaio, Light is correct in that analysis and that is why I keep reiterating it will take the PNM to beat the PNM 8-)

Peanut - that is simply YOUR opinion..

You will live to see what this blunder by Dookeran will cost this country, mark my words “No political party will ever remove the pnm from office again” none!

By next election the opposition votes going to be less, because many people already making plans to migrate ….This will truly be PNM country soon.

[littleone]

wow..Bas is training his supporters well....they want to be just like him... :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[peanut]

PNM supporters will continue to support PNM no matter what..

That is not true Viao, most of the supporters from the ONR/NAR are former PNMites, and even if you look at the results of 1986, it was the PNMites who brought down the PNM.

[vaio]

PNM supporters will continue to support PNM no matter what..

That is not true Viao, most of the supporters from the ONR/NAR are former PNMites, and even if you look at the results of 1986, it was the PNMites who brought down the PNM.

they will never vote against the PNM again...

[peanut]

PNM supporters will continue to support PNM no matter what..

That is not true Viao, most of the supporters from the ONR/NAR are former PNMites, and even if you look at the results of 1986, it was the PNMites who brought down the PNM.

they will never vote against the PNM again...

That could only be your opinion as many of them voted against the PNM in 1995 and 2000

[TheLight]

PNM supporters will continue to support PNM no matter what..

That is not true Viao, most of the supporters from the ONR/NAR are former PNMites, and even if you look at the results of 1986, it was the PNMites who brought down the PNM.

they will never vote against the PNM again...

So how will the pnm be remove from office?

[vaio]

well, its up to the opposition(s) to get the undecided to vote out the PNM....it cannot be done by one party it must be a joint effort...

[peanut]

well, its up to the opposition(s) to get the undecided to vote out the PNM....it cannot be done by one party it must be a joint effort...

Isn't that what everyone was saying before the elections :?: Did anyone listen :?: DUHHHHHHH :!:

[vaio]

well, its up to the opposition(s) to get the undecided to vote out the PNM....it cannot be done by one party it must be a joint effort...

Isn't that what everyone was saying before the elections :?: Did anyone listen :?: DUHHHHHHH :!:

its not that they did not listen...they were too stubborn.... :!:

[TheLight]

That could only be your opinion as many of them voted against the PNM in 1995 and 2000

And having a 3rd party will only guarantee a PNM victory, so why did Dookeran do it?

[peanut]

I concur, so the UNC blaming the COP and the COP blaming the UNC is damn dotishness. They are both to blame :!:

[vaio]

That could only be your opinion as many of them voted against the PNM in 1995 and 2000

And having a 3rd party will only guarantee a PNM victory, so why did Dookeran do it?

there could have been unity...but Bas cannot abuse Dooks in one sentence then call for unity in another...

Bas abused Dooks when he was leader of the UNC...Dooks had no choice but to leave...he formed his own party so that ppl would see how dictatorial Bas is and hopefully get more of the UNC's base support...however the supporters continued to support Bas....

[lou_uk]

The COP campaign went downhill with the inclusion of Ramlogan and Coudray. Even after platform guidelines were set, they were totally ignored by those two in particular. But then again, they have been setting guidelines since Roy Augustus, Devant Maharaj... Anil and Inshan did more damage than people admit. Dookeran presided over all that.

What does class mean? On Sunday night, during his address to the nation the opportunity to shine across the board presented itself. He failed miserably.

Dookeran might be a nice individual, but his leadership had as much spine as a jellyfish.

[TheLight]

its not that they did not listen...they were too stubborn....

You mean Dookeran right?

It is a sad thing that part of his “new politics” wasn’t common sense and dialogue

[peanut]

Vaio, do you remember me saying that the UNC like the PNM is not just a political party but it is an institution? The only way you can get rid of an institution is to remove it's foundation. The foundation of the UNC and the PNM is its base of support. It took 40 years before the PNM had its foundation shaken [not removed] but the PNM was able to rebuild.

The same with the UNC its foundation has been shaken and it continues to shake, however because the foundation is still there and as long as it is there it will be imposible to get rid of it.

[vaio]

its not that they did not listen...they were too stubborn....

You mean Dookeran right?

It is a sad thing that part of his “new politics” wasn’t common sense and dialogue

Light again...you just can't blame Dookeran alone...Bas has a majority of the blame..

[vaio]

Vaio, do you remember me saying that the UNC like the PNM is not just a political party but it is an institution? The only way you can get rid of an institution is to remove it's foundation. The foundation of the UNC and the PNM is its base of support. It took 40 years before the PNM had its foundation shaken [not removed] but the PNM was able to rebuild.

The same with the UNC its foundation has been shaken and it continues to shake, however because the foundation is still there and as long as it is there it will be imposible to get rid of it.


Peanut - so what do you think will happen to the UNC when Bas leaves...do you think that could be the time when that foundation is put to the ultimate test?

[sugarnuts]

Sombody007

I certainly hope people (UNC) are not keeping him in power because he is hindu of indian. It will be a sad commentary about the mindset of his supporters in 2 0 0 7.

[Sirius]

Vaio, do you remember me saying that the UNC like the PNM is not just a political party but it is an institution? The only way you can get rid of an institution is to remove it's foundation. The foundation of the UNC and the PNM is its base of support. It took 40 years before the PNM had its foundation shaken [not removed] but the PNM was able to rebuild.

The same with the UNC its foundation has been shaken and it continues to shake, however because the foundation is still there and as long as it is there it will be imposible to get rid of it.

I disagree with that. One of the reasons COP was able to take such a large chunk of the UNC base with it is because the UNC is not an institution. The followers went after the people in the party, and when some left, they took the base with them. Compare that to the PNM now where if members left, the vast majority of their supporters would remain with the PNM. They follow the PNM, not its members.

The traditional opposition base has to break out of that mentality if it is to become a true competitor to the PNM. I think Dookeran had one thing right in forming the COP and saying that unity had to be under the COP and not the UNC: The UNC is faced with that stigma of being a "Panday following". The UNC itself has to dissolve and be rebuilt if it is to permanently build a base that consists of more than just its grassroots. The COP represented an opportunity to reuse the same base and most of the same party members, but rebuilt without the stigma of the UNC. Unfortunately, the Panday faction remained alive and well and this did not happen. Instead of the UNC crumbling and a new, more powerful and institution-like force being created, we ended up with two strong anti-PNM parties.

This was the reason the COP was strong as it, it is the reason it will survive, and unfortunately it is the reason they lost the elections. Many people want a change from the Panday faction. Many people will not endorse a continued Panday faction but will endorse this new anti-PNM movement that veers away from the maximum leadership methodology. But the Panday faction remains alive and well, and with it the UNC.

[peanut]

Peanut - so what do you think will happen to the UNC when Bas leaves...do you think that could be the time when that foundation is put to the ultimate test?

The foundation was put to the test with the COP and they survived it. What will decide its ultimate survival is their move in finding a replacement for Panday and how well they perform in Opposition.

Sirius, there can be no doubt that the UNC's base of support has held firm in this election hence the reason their traditional strongholds were won. The COP got the voters who were traditionally floating voters and some of the disenchanted UNC supporters hence the reason they lost the marginals.

[TheLight]

That could only be your opinion as many of them voted against the PNM in 1995 and 2000

And having a 3rd party will only guarantee a PNM victory, so why did Dookeran do it?

there could have been unity...but Bas cannot abuse Dooks in one sentence then call for unity in another...

Bas abused Dooks when he was leader of the UNC...Dooks had no choice but to leave...he formed his own party so that ppl would see how dictatorial Bas is and hopefully get more of the UNC's base support...however the supporters continued to support Bas....

The common trend amongst corpse supporters was Bas…well now we stuk PNM for life!

and when Basdeo Panday did this for Winston Dookeran he wasn't bad?


• He gave him in 1986 the safe seat of Chaguanas and made him a Minister in the NAR government.

• He gave him Governor of Central Bank

• He gave him, in 2002 the safe seat of St. Augustine knowing that the UNC supporter in Chaguanas will never forgive Winston.

• He gave him in 2005 the Leadership of the UNC on a silver platter.


What has Dookeran done for Panday?

[Sirius]

@ peanut - yes, and that is why they kept their traditional strongholds. That was what backfired for the COP. They formed an alternative anti-PNM platform that did not center around a persona. However, they were unable to take the traditional Panday faction supporters with them - which happens to be quite large in number. Those people may not necessarily worship Panday as some in the past, but they are still very unwilling to give up supporting the Panday faction. Not to be morbid but Panday might have to cap over into his grave before we find out the fate of the UNC. The day this happens, or perhaps the day Panday retires is the day that will prove whether or not the UNC can ever really be an institution.

[peanut]

EXACTLY! and that is why I said the survival of the UNC will be decided by the move they make in finding a replacement for Panday. It will have to be one that is approved but the core support or the UNC will not have a foundation.

[TheLight]

Vaio, do you remember me saying that the UNC like the PNM is not just a political party but it is an institution? The only way you can get rid of an institution is to remove it's foundation. The foundation of the UNC and the PNM is its base of support. It took 40 years before the PNM had its foundation shaken [not removed] but the PNM was able to rebuild.

The same with the UNC its foundation has been shaken and it continues to shake, however because the foundation is still there and as long as it is there it will be imposible to get rid of it.

I disagree with that. One of the reasons COP was able to take such a large chunk of the UNC base with it is because the UNC is not an institution. The followers went after the people in the party, and when some left, they took the base with them. Compare that to the PNM now where if members left, the vast majority of their supporters would remain with the PNM. They follow the PNM, not its members.

The traditional opposition base has to break out of that mentality if it is to become a true competitor to the PNM. I think Dookeran had one thing right in forming the COP and saying that unity had to be under the COP and not the UNC: The UNC is faced with that stigma of being a "Panday following". The UNC itself has to dissolve and be rebuilt if it is to permanently build a base that consists of more than just its grassroots. The COP represented an opportunity to reuse the same base and most of the same party members, but rebuilt without the stigma of the UNC. Unfortunately, the Panday faction remained alive and well and this did not happen. Instead of the UNC crumbling and a new, more powerful and institution-like force being created, we ended up with two strong anti-PNM parties.

This was the reason the COP was strong as it, it is the reason it will survive, and unfortunately it is the reason they lost the elections. Many people want a change from the Panday faction. Many people will not endorse a continued Panday faction but will endorse this new anti-PNM movement that veers away from the maximum leadership methodology. But the Panday faction remains alive and well, and with it the UNC.


The common trend amongst corpse supporters Panday, well allyuh have Manning for life, enjoy it

[vaio]

so light you are saying it is ok for Bas to abuse dookeran?

and he did not give Dooks anything...he saw dookeran as a intelligent person to be able to function in those capacities...

[peanut]

What I find incredibly amazing is that 148000+ voters rather put the Country at risk of a full fledge dictator than to exhibit grace and humility.

Dookeran's had his best chance of capturing the UNC base by staying with the UNC and unless that base is won over ... no 3rd party will ever have a chance of winning an election in T&T

[littleone]

peanut, when you say dictator, what you think manning going to do? lock us up if we ah reach home before a certain time? what is it he going to do that he eh done do already??

[damianr]

I was pleased to hear Mr Dookeran's comments after the the results were evident. He showed a lot of class by congratulating not only the PNM, but also UNC. As a matter of fact, I wanted him to win his seat in St Agustine. For me, it was the only disappointment in this election.

On the other hand, Mr Panday, like the loser he is, blamed everyone but himself for his defeat. Who did he blamed the last time, and the time before that? The people who supported him over the years deserved better leadership. The country deserve a better opposition. Panday lack class and statesmanship. To call the people who exercise their right to vote in our democracy, criminals and mafia, proves that he did not deserve their votes. He is the only communist dictator. And whats up with the red beret? Does he think he is Che Guavera. The only way the UNC can expect to form the Government is to get rid of Panday. He is the problem. The country cannot afford to elect a party with so much internal fighting and a history of splits and division. "Unity"? thats a joke under Panday.

Let me once again congratulate the People's National Movement for a great victory. As long as the opposition remains divided, they will continue to rule. :)

That's just talk, someone write a good speech for him (it just shows how well prepared he was for defeat) the real proof is in his actions - will he stick around to prove that he really had a vision and dedicate himself to enriching the lives of the people of T&T or will he pack up and run off the next shiny thing that comes along for him to fail at

If Dooks talking a nice talk while deserting 148,000 + supporters, (worst yet if he leave Trinidad) that's just not Cricket

[peanut]

peanut, when you say dictator, what you think manning going to do? lock us up if we ah reach home before a certain time? what is it he going to do that he eh done do already??

Manning eh do nutten yet to all yuh hun.

[vaio]

I was pleased to hear Mr Dookeran's comments after the the results were evident. He showed a lot of class by congratulating not only the PNM, but also UNC. As a matter of fact, I wanted him to win his seat in St Agustine. For me, it was the only disappointment in this election.

On the other hand, Mr Panday, like the loser he is, blamed everyone but himself for his defeat. Who did he blamed the last time, and the time before that? The people who supported him over the years deserved better leadership. The country deserve a better opposition. Panday lack class and statesmanship. To call the people who exercise their right to vote in our democracy, criminals and mafia, proves that he did not deserve their votes. He is the only communist dictator. And whats up with the red beret? Does he think he is Che Guavera. The only way the UNC can expect to form the Government is to get rid of Panday. He is the problem. The country cannot afford to elect a party with so much internal fighting and a history of splits and division. "Unity"? thats a joke under Panday.

Let me once again congratulate the People's National Movement for a great victory. As long as the opposition remains divided, they will continue to rule. :)

That's just talk, someone write a good speech for him (it just shows how well prepared he was for defeat) the real proof is in his actions - will he stick around to prove that he really had a vision and dedicate himself to enriching the lives of the people of T&T or will he pack up and run off the next shiny thing that comes along for him to fail at

If Dooks talking a nice talk while deserting 148,000 + supporters, (worst yet if he leave Trinidad) that's just not Cricket

sweetie....of course his speech was prepared and so were the speech by Bas...they simply knew what the results would be...

If Mr Dookeran leaves the COP, its because its time to hand over the mantle to someone else who may be able to take the party forward....not hold on to it for dear life!!!

[Sly1]

All your posts are about Panday? I wonder why? You all are just so full of HATE for one MAN and that is all that motivates you. It is so sad to see you so happy, not understanding the DEVASTATION you have done to this nation. a small example.....Every day as the children of Beech get ready for school they and their family will be thinking of Cop and what destiny Cop has given to them. Your HATE for one man blinded you for a short time but now you will be seeing the murderings and saying "I VOTED FOR THAT, I DID GOOD" When you SEE what Manning has in store for T&T you will jump up and say "" I AM SO PROUD THAT I VOTED FOR COP SO MANNING COULD GET ANOTHER 5 YEARS IN GOV'T TO DO IT TO US!"
CONGRATULATION Cop you have done your job perfectly...go ahead and pat yourselves on your back for now....and wait and SEE

[damianr]

I was pleased to hear Mr Dookeran's comments after the the results were evident. He showed a lot of class by congratulating not only the PNM, but also UNC. As a matter of fact, I wanted him to win his seat in St Agustine. For me, it was the only disappointment in this election.

On the other hand, Mr Panday, like the loser he is, blamed everyone but himself for his defeat. Who did he blamed the last time, and the time before that? The people who supported him over the years deserved better leadership. The country deserve a better opposition. Panday lack class and statesmanship. To call the people who exercise their right to vote in our democracy, criminals and mafia, proves that he did not deserve their votes. He is the only communist dictator. And whats up with the red beret? Does he think he is Che Guavera. The only way the UNC can expect to form the Government is to get rid of Panday. He is the problem. The country cannot afford to elect a party with so much internal fighting and a history of splits and division. "Unity"? thats a joke under Panday.

Let me once again congratulate the People's National Movement for a great victory. As long as the opposition remains divided, they will continue to rule. :)

That's just talk, someone write a good speech for him (it just shows how well prepared he was for defeat) the real proof is in his actions - will he stick around to prove that he really had a vision and dedicate himself to enriching the lives of the people of T&T or will he pack up and run off the next shiny thing that comes along for him to fail at

If Dooks talking a nice talk while deserting 148,000 + supporters, (worst yet if he leave Trinidad) that's just not Cricket

sweetie....of course his speech was prepared and so were the speech by Bas...they simply knew what the results would be...

If Mr Dookeran leaves the COP, its because its time to hand over the mantle to someone else who may be able to take the party forward....not hold on to it for dear life!!!

I'm not comparing Dooks to Panday, I don't condone anything Panday has done this decade - however it's not yet time for Dooks to hand over, this is building time where leadership is needed more than ever

[damianr]

You can judge a society by the leadership and maturity displayed by it's leaders :roll: - yes we up a creek without a paddle -

But In my opinion Dooks is half the leader either Panday or Manning is - and that's not saying much.

I'ts easy to talk on a platform and sell ideas - quite a different story to build a movement and implement those ideas - things that both Panday and Manning have done - if you remember Mr. Manning left in worst situations in 86 and 95 put his head down and built his party into the power house it is today. We may not agree with his methods or results, but I don't think anyone would question that the man has some serious Gumption.

I'm just saying now is the time for Dooks to prove what he is made out of with actions not words

[vaio]

i wld like to see Dooks around for at least the local gov't election..

[cm103]

You can judge a society by the leadership and maturity displayed by it's leaders :roll: - yes we up a creek without a paddle -

But In my opinion Dooks is half the leader either Panday or Manning is - and that's not saying much.

I'ts easy to talk on a platform and sell ideas - quite a different story to build a movement and implement those ideas - things that both Panday and Manning have done - if you remember Mr. Manning left in worst situations in 86 and 95 put his head down and built his party into the power house it is today. We may not agree with his methods or results, but I don't think anyone would question that the man has some serious Gumption.

I'm just saying now is the time for Dooks to prove what he is made out of with actions not words

Well time alone will tell on that last point you made. There may be a leadership shift or he may remain as leader up until the run up for the next election if his health holds. The party executive will have to vote on that.

[Sirius]

Well time alone will tell on that last point you made. There may be a leadership shift or he may remain as leader up until the run up for the next election if his health holds. The party executive will have to vote on that.

In light of the electoral loss, Dooks may not be the best option for the 2012 elections. However, I think he should stick around as leader for the next two or three years. Shape the party, begin introducing new potential leaders toward the end of his tenure, and then let the party elect a new leader to take them into the 2012 elections. He may not be best suited to lead the party into another elections, but right now to me he is the best man to get followers to remain with the party, pick up the pieces, and prove they are here to stay.

[littleone]

peanut, when you say dictator, what you think manning going to do? lock us up if we ah reach home before a certain time? what is it he going to do that he eh done do already??

Manning eh do nutten yet to all yuh hun.

this is yuh answer and yuh expect to be taken seriously? :roll:

[sugarnuts]

Everybody,
lets get something straight. COP cannot test the foundation of the UNC because it never had any. First we had the ULF, then it turn into the NAR, then club 88, then UNC now its UNC-A. I have never seen such an unstable political party in the history of politics. Anyone who try to think independantly, always found themselves in Panday's dog house. Now Thats what I call a dictator. If anybody want to talk about foundation, you have to say P.N.M. Good Bad or Ugly, it is a stable political force. It is the only party of unity. People from all walks of life, race, religon, and culture, are members of the People's National Movement. Guess what? When I was in T&T I never voted for PNM. Mainly because I don't think it is good for a democracy, for one political party to govern too long. They become complacent, and start taking the people they serve for granted. The result, is crime and corrupton. But, absent of any stable ulternative, "great is the PNM and it will prevail". ;)

[Harry Williamn]

Mr.Dookeran may well take a page from the book of the Rt Hounarable former Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago ,Mr.George Chambers a(who simply vanished,like a fart in the wind,after the flogging of the PNM in the 1986 elections.)...Mr.dookeran,in the name of God,please go quietly into the night and simply be quiet because when you count the combined votes of the COP and UNC in seven of the seats which the PNM won they were far greater than the PNM votes which points to the fact that if you and your COP ( " comess of parties ) had heeded the fervent and sincere call for unity against the PNM today you will have been negotiating for a position inside the government and not a sorry and pathetic watcher of government...we do not need a watcher of Government but people who shall be a " doer" in government!
You all will have had 22 seats and a slim majority which will have been great for government!
Please,sir,just fade away,please!

[Somebody007]

ummmm, I will be thinking twice about them statements that COP aint have nutten to stand on....Of course, right now they have not won any seats and thus far alot of people are extremely disappointed with Mr. Panday himself. Things does take time to build and shape up but hear's what I believe....as long as Panday is running the show for the UNC, expect his followers to slowly migrate out of the UNC camp into elsewhere.

[peanut]

ummmm, I will be thinking twice about them statements that COP aint have nutten to stand on....Of course, right now they have not won any seats and thus far alot of people are extremely disappointed with Mr. Panday himself. Things does take time to build and shape up but hear's what I believe....as long as Panday is running the show for the UNC, expect his followers to slowly migrate out of the UNC camp into elsewhere.


007, everyone expected the Rising Sun to set after all the ramblings, but it didn't Panday has proven he still had what it takes to pull the UNC back from what was percieved to be the Political Grave. So whoever is waiting to see the end of the UNC with or without Panday have a damn long time in which to do so.

[scrunter]

i wld like to see Dooks around for at least the local gov't election..


Why to finish the job he started??????????/

People are knocking Bas and to an extent they have a right to..people are also knocking Dooks and again since he is the leader he would be the target . But no one is knocking their advisers...both parties them fellas seemed to have a hidden agenda I wonder if those are the men who were the pnm plants....the general secretary of the UNCA...Saddiq from COP to name just two.

Just as the people from Laventille originally would tell you it was the pnm who give them back their dignity with Doctor Eric Williams leading the way and they will forever be grateful for that the people from Caroni and beyond would also tell you that they were working for $23.00 a week and it was Bas who got that changed to $100.00 a day.And because of that changed in salary they were able to build better homes,send their children to universities in other words better their standard of living and that of their generations.
Although Dooks ideology is sound he has no history like the other two and dat is why he would probably continue to pull the ONR crowd but only a few of the UNC and PNM.

[Sirius]

007, everyone expected the Rising Sun to set after all the ramblings, but it didn't Panday has proven he still had what it takes to pull the UNC back from what was percieved to be the Political Grave. So whoever is waiting to see the end of the UNC with or without Panday have a damn long time in which to do so.

Panday retained the seats where the original ULF voter base is strong. His old Panday faction voters. Even so, he nearly lose Tabaquite and St. Augustine, and for all his influence the COP and PNM together pulled more votes than he did in his own constituency.

Elections 2007 proved that Panday has lost the old ONR vote, along with a significant number of undecided voters. Whether COP remains for 2012 or not remains to be seen, but it is clear that Panday and the UNC no longer has the support of a great number of the supporters who are required for the party to form government. I have no doubt that despite the UNC succeeding with fifteen seats, we are seeing the beginning of the end for that party. Perhaps when Panday takes his leave the party can rejuvenate itself and woo back what is now the COP base whether it be through some sort of alliance or just overtaking COP (or whatever party controlling that base calls itself). If you think the UNC can survive, then you're probably right. If you think it can ever regain its former glory while Panday sits at the helm, I think you're sorely mistaken.

[Harry Williamn]

BIG PNM FETE AT SALYBIA RESORT WHILE WE ....THE PEOPLE ....FACE THE EVER GROWING PROBLEMS THE PNM CANNOT SEEM TO SOLVE!
THE RESORT IS OWNED BY A HIGH RANKING PNM OFFICIAL AND THE QUESTION IS:" IS IT FREE?" IS IT ( IF THEY SPEND ANY MONEY AT ALL ) GOING TO BE A "TAX" WRITE OFF? SO WE STILL PAY FOR IT ?
HOW COULD THEY FETE WHILE WE THE PEOPLE CANNOT POKE OUR NOSE OUTSIDE AFTER DARK NOR GO TO A BEACH OR RESORT WITHOUT FEAR OF BEING ROBBED,KIDNAPPED,KILLED,RAPED OR SHOT?
WE SUFFER DAILY IN ADVERSE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS WHILE THE PNM FETE?
FOOD PRICES CLIMB UP FASTER THAN A MONKEY GOING UP A COCONUT TREE WHILE THE PNM FETE?
I MAY BE BLIND OR CANNOT READ WELL BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE EXPRESS EVER PUBLISH LETTERS LIKE THIS !OR LIKE WHAT I HAVE SEEN ON THIS FORUM...DO THEY EVER PUBLISH LETTERS LIKE THESE WHICH "BY PASS "THE RUN OF THE MILL GRIPING" AND GET TO THE HEART OF THE PROBLEMS WHICH WE FACE DAILY IN THIS COUNTRY ?
THANK GOD FOR THE GUARDIAN ONLINE WHICH ALLOWS US TO SPEAK OUR MINDS AND THE FACTS ABOUT THE TRUE STATE OF THE COUNTRY.
SOON WE SHALL BE GETTING THOUSANDS TO GO ONLINE HERE.
THANK YOU GUARDIAN ONLINE.
THE TRINIDAD GUARDIAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE BACKBONE OF OUR FREEDOM WHILE SOME WILL SAY THAT THE OTHER NEWSPAPER IS THE BACKBONE OF THE PNM AND QUITE FRANKLY SOME WILL SAY THAT THE MANNING LAWSUIT AGAINST THE PAPER IS A SHAM AND WILL END NOWHERE ???
AFTER ALL MR.MANNING AND THE PNM GET A LOT OF GREAT PRESS AND LETTERS TO THE EDITOR PUBLISHED IN THAT NEWSPAPER!

[Dispatcher]

TT Online is not owned by the Guardian.

And for your information The Guardian Newspaper is no backbone of a free press. When the Editor is chief is instructed not to publish the results of the last NACTA poll because it was showing late swings towards the UNC. I would hardly call that imparitiality.

[Maccogirl]

The media is a waste big fete at Boynes place is correct but have the media really raise a issue on this? Has the media asked what happened to the 58 million that was spent on fixing up the Petrotrin Beach Camp resort where the PNM held its last retreat, where every room had a jacuzzi, flat screen tv's and so on.

Manning said then that he will be using all this for retreats hence the reason for this massive do over, also what is wrong with the diplomatic center that he just built why could they not go daily there to hold these meetings. Is Manning now ensuring that Boynes is well taken care of for the coming year?

Media what media all they concerned about if if Manning will put more advertising in their papers so another 167 million can be spent for the year in ads, half of the problems in this country is because of the media and their lack of reporting issues. I wonder if it was Panday that was PM and went to some beach resort to hold this retreat for a week what the media and public would of been saying now?? :roll: