Loving in Spite of.......Loving Because......

[letric]

I have always been fascinated seeking answers to questions, perhaps, at least this is my hope, a few forumites will offer their perception of loving in spite of....loving because.....
Without being rhetorical, the measure of love is to love in spite of and not because, of course, I can also state love is based on sacrifice. Need to hear from men/women who truly value love. Anxiously await your replies.

[Amelia]

Why would u say the measure of love is to love in spite of?
How is loving bec any less valid?

[letric]

The comparison relative to the question loving in spite deals with one erring in whatever form, and is still loved in spite of.... Now I'm not referring to a mother, father or parent love for their children. But the relationship between two adults. Ever so often I would hear the remark I love XYZ because he/she is this or that.....

[letric]

To love because... example, they're blonde, have good legs, or a brilliant intellect, but they've changed the colour of their hair to red/black, started gaining weight, or started to forget things. The relationship will usually end because the person I loved no longer exists.

To love in spite of...example, discovered they have been lying by omission, or half truths, been unfaithful, and are not the person I thought them to be? Yet, still love them. In other words loving in spite of...

[letric]

Lack of self-respect warps the mirror: I will walk
away from this distorted image of myself before the illusion
becomes part of my landscape. I am whole and unique.

[letric]

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
I love thee to the depth and breath and height
My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
For the ends of Being and ideal Grace

Elizabeth Barrett Browning

[letric]

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
I love thee to the depth and breath and height
My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
For the ends of Being and ideal Grace[/quote]

Elizabeth Barrett Browning



I love thee with the breath,
Smiles, tears, of all my life! - and if God choose,
I shall but love thee better after death
Sonnets from the Portuguese (1850) no. 43

[letric]

Loving her still, even though she needs a change.

[letric]

Eternity was in the moment.

(tThe old batchelor (1693) act.4. sc.7

[letric]

Why should he, with wealth and honour blest,
Refuse his age the needful hours of rest?
Punish a body which he could not please;
Bankrupt of life, yet prodigal of ease?
And all to leave what with his toil he won
To that unfeathered two-legged thing, a son.

Absalom and Achitophel (1681) pt. 1, l. 165

[letric]

The son chose a life of debauchery...came to his senses...returned to his Father...Welcome from his Father with the Words,
'We shall celebrate and rejoice because your brother here was dead, and has come to life, he was lost and is found'

[letric]

Love begets love...

(mid 17th century)

[letric]

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the
shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art
with me; thy rod and they staff comfort me.
Thou shalt prepare a table before me against
them that trouble me: thou hast anointed my
head with oil, and my cup shall be full.
But they loving kindness and mercy shall follow
me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in
the house of the Lord for ever.
Psalm 23. v. 4

[letric]

If moment by moment you can keep your mind clear, then nothing will confuse you.
Sheng Yen (b.1931)

[letric]

When I was in the military, they gave me a
medal for killing two men and a discharge
for loving one.

Leonard Matlovich d. 1988
American Air Force Sergeant

[letric]

He who begins to loving Christianity better than
Truth, will proceed by loving his own sect or
church better than Christianity, and end by
loving himself better than all.

"Moral and Religious Aphorisms"

[letric]

I loved not yet, yet I loved to love...I sought
what I might love, loving to love.

Confessions
St. Augustine of Hippo (AD354-430)

[letric]

And Jacob served seven years for Rachael; and they seemed unto him but a few days
but for the love he had for.
Genesis ch.29. v. 20

[letric]

all is change in the world of the senses,
but changeless us the supreme lord of love, meditate on him,
be absorbed in him, wake up from this dream of separateness
upanishads (c.1000 bce)

[letric]

It was self-love that was the root of original sin.

[letric]

A woman falls in love with what she hears, a man with what he sees.

[letric]

Throughout the annals of history, all great love affairs have ended in tragedy

[letric]

One can find women who have
never had a love affair, but it is rare
to find a woman who has had only
one

-Francois La Rochefoucauld

[letric]

Love cannot be compelled.

[letric]

Love is a sweet torment.
It was self-love that was the root of original sin.

[letric]

The love of the wicked is more dangerous than their hatred.
Love cannot be compelled.

[letric]

Time, not the mind, puts an end to love.
-Francois La Rochefoucauld

[letric]

Looking back at my life I wish I'd stepped forward
and made a fool of myself more often, when I was
younger - because when you do you discover you can.

[letric]

The father loves the son, and the son loves his
sons.

Babylon Talmud Sotah 49a

[letric]

All that the Holy One, blessed be He, created in
the world, He also created in man.

Rabbi Nathan 29a

[letric]

Janus, the Roman god of thresholds,
provides an appropriate focus for reflection when you are
embarking upon a new phase in your life. He is often depicted
with two faces - one of a child liking forward into the future
and one of a bearded old man looking into the past.
Visualise yourself standing in a doorway, on the threshold of
your new venture. Standing beside you is Janus. Looking behind
you, survey your past and ask the old face of Janus to recount
the most important lessons you have gathered from your
previous experiences. Then look forward and ask the young
face of Janus for some positive energy for the future.
Encouraged by his hopefulness, set out on your journey.

[letric]

I see God in every human being. When I wash
the leper's wounds. I feel am nursing the Lord
himself.

Mother Teresa (1919-97)

[letric]

To fear love is to fear life, and those who fear
life are already three parts dead.

Marriage and Morals (1929)
Bertrand Russell

[letric]

The aim of life is learning - how to be
yourself, how to be good, how to love.

[letric]

To save your world you asked this man to die
Would this man, could he see you now, ask
why?


W.H. Auden 91907-73)

[letric]

Meek wifehood is no part of my profession;
I am your friend, but never your possession.


Married Love (1926)

[letric]

There is nothing ugly; I never saw an ugly thing
in my life: for let the form of an object be what
it may, - light, shade, and perspective will always
make it beautiful.



Memoirs of the Life of John Constable (1843)

[letric]

At long last I am able to say a few words of my
own... you must believe me when I tell you
that I have found it impossible to carry the
heavy burden of responsibility and to discharge
my duties as King as I would wish to do
without the help and support of the woman I
love.

radio broadcast following the abdication
Edward V111, afterwards Duke of Windsor (1894-1972)

[letric]

The joys of parents are secret, and so are their
griefs.



Essays (1625) Of Parents and Children.

[letric]

The joys of parents are secret, and so are their
griefs and sorrows

Parents and Children (1625)

[letric]

Changing perspectives on a situation can help to resolve the difficulties it presents.
First visualise the situation in your mind in full detail. Then shift your perspective by
bringing the background to the foreground and vice versa. How does this alter your
understanding of the situation from an other person's viewpoint?

[letric]

Throughout our lives we perform various
social roles. If we are not careful, we can
find ourselves identifying too closely with a
particular role, which then becomes limiting.
What are the roles you currently associate
with? Visualise yourself in each of these roles.
What masks and manners do you adopt?
What lies behind the these masks.
Who are you really?

[letric]

Mother Teresa said,
If you are kind, people will accuse you of selfish motives; be kind anyway. The good you do today, most people will forget, do good anyway. Give the world the best you've got and it may never be enough; give your best anyway. In the final analysis it's between you and God; it was never between you and them anyway.

[letric]

All the privilege I claim for my own sex ... is
that of loving longest, when existence or when
hope is gone.

Jane Austen
(Persuasion)

[letric]

Once the realisation is accepted that even
between the closest human beings infinite
distances continue to exist, a wonderful living
side by side can grow up, if they succeed in
in loving the distance between them.


Rainer Maria Rilke (1875-1926)

[letric]

The first duty of love is to listen.




PT

[letric]

The Bible (1 Corinthians)


Love is patient, love is kind. It doe not envy, it does
not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-
seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of
wrongs. does not delight in evil but rejoices
with truth. It always protects, always trusts,
always hopes, always preserves. Love never fails.

[letric]

'Tis better to have loved
and lost than never to
have loved at all'





Alfred, Lord Tennyson

[letric]

Love is an act of endless foregiveness,
a tender look which becomes a habit

PU





The first duty of love is to listen.




PT

[letric]

In real love you want the other person's good. In romantic
love you want the other person.

MA

[letric]

The love of the wicked is more dangerous than their hatred.


The difficult part of love
Is being selfish enough.
Is having the blind persistence
To upset an experience
Just for your own sake.

Love (1966)

[letric]

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
I love thee to the depths and breadth and height
My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
For the ends of Being and ideal Grace.

Elizabeth Barrett Browning(1806-61)
Sonnets from the Portuguese(1850)

[letric]

Age doesn't protect you from love. But love, to
some extent , protect you from age.
JM

[letric]

The act of forgiving can never be predicted: it is
the only reaction that acts in an unexpected way
and thus retains, though being a reaction,
something of the original character of action.
HA

[letric]

The act of forgiving can never be predicted: it is
the only reaction that acts in an unexpected way
and thus retains, though being a reaction,
something of the original character of action.
HA

To err is human, to forgive divine.
AP

[letric]

My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth
among the lilies.
Until the day break, and shadows flee away,
turn, my beloved, and thou like a roe or a
young hart upon the mountains of Bether.
Bible
Song of Solomon (2:18-17)

[letric]

The act of forgiving can never be predicted: it is
the only reaction that acts in an unexpected way
and thus retains, though being a reaction,
something of the original character of action.
HA

You will find as you look back upon your life that the
moments when you have truly lived are the moments when
you have done things in the spirit of love.
HD

[letric]

To err is human, to forgive divine.
AP

There is love, of course. And then there is life, it's enemy.
JA

[letric]

I have a very strong feeling that the opposite of love is
not hate - it's apathy. It's not giving a damn.
WC

[letric]

Mother Teresa (1919-97)

People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centred. Love them anyway...
Mother Teresa

[letric]

It is not love that is blind, but jealousy.
LD

[letric]

There is love, of course. And then there is life, it's enemy.
JA

I was born when you kissed me. I died when you left me.
I lived a few weeks while you loved me.
HB

[letric]

I have never ceased to love you for
one moment since I knew you; nor shall I
Charles Dickens

[letric]

Our brains are programmed to make sense of
everything around us and that happens to us.
We spend our lies interpreting facts, these
interpretations, positive or negative generate
corresponding emotions. These emotions
determine our behaviour, the way we see life,
and pir relationship with ohers.

[letric]

Our brains are programmed to make sense of
everything around us and that happens to us.
We spend our lives interpreting facts, these
interpretations, positive or negative generate
corresponding emotions. These emotions
determine our behaviour, the way we see life,
and our relationship with others.

[akm88]

There is no meaning for LOVE..because it is a sake of god for all human beings...........
LOVE is a sweet poison..........

[letric]

A father will have compassion on his son. A
mother will never forget her child. A brother
will cover the sin of his sister. But what
husband ever forgave the faithlessness of
his wife?