Cussbud Achong is now a COP

[Maccogirl]

Wow what a wonderful addition to the COP family, I am sure this new member will enhance the entire campaign of the COP taking them one step closer to victory :D The "I love you" man can then address the COP gathering and give them his own special type of blessing "luv you, luv you" to my COP brothers and sisters :D :D :D



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[lou_uk]

Both he and Vincent Lasse offered to give Selby a hand about 4 weeks ago. It was just a matter of time before he made it official.

[cm103]

You vex about Achong? Did he bring down any governments and then come crawling back? Better yet...did they clear out any seats for him to run on?

[King B]

Good riddance. Amen.

[Solachica]

Oh gard. I don't like tht man since a few yrs ago I was just doing my job and he wanted to call my office and abuse me. When he didn't get me he let messages 'saying who you feel you are do you know who I am.' Stupes. Like if I cared.

[bluemellow]

If someone has to ask "Do you know who I am?" chances are, it doesn't matter...

[Solachica]

:mrgreen: I really didnt know who he was. When I got tht message my reply to people was like I care? Although they were telling me the man is the MP etc etc. :roll:
Only time I saw him and knew who he was when I saw him on TV for tht cussing incident :roll:

[King B]

I was overjoyed when the PNM got rid of that clown. This COP new politics starting to look really familiar; COP- a party for vex people. :roll:

[TheLight]

Can Dookeran control these loose cannons?

Imagine a cabinet with Anil Roberts, Hulsie, Devant, Achong, Anand & Inshan

Lawd fadder

[vaio]

imagine a cabinet we have present ruling for the next 5 yrs...or a cabinet with Jack, Bas, RLM fighting everyday :mrgreen:

[cm103]

imagine a cabinet we have present ruling for the next 5 yrs...or a cabinet with Jack, Bas, RLM fighting everyday :mrgreen:

Damn, you beat me to it....

[TheLight]

imagine a cabinet we have present ruling for the next 5 yrs...or a cabinet with Jack, Bas, RLM fighting everyday :mrgreen:

what Anand said read his lips :?:

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[Somebody007]

Oh gard. I don't like tht man since a few yrs ago I was just doing my job and he wanted to call my office and abuse me. When he didn't get me he let messages 'saying who you feel you are do you know who I am.' Stupes. Like if I cared.


Oh Oh poor babes....next time give meh ah shout nah....ah go fix dem up fi yuh.

[serenity]

The man come in to help out he wife. Yuh cyahh fault him for that. But I think it was an extremely foolish move to put him anywhere close to the limelight. He should have quietly worked behind the scenes until elections over.

[TheLight]

The party of integrity!

http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/33724/2001214578843061629_rs.jpg

[Somebody007]

Clearly Achong is only interested in power. It would been in the PNM's interests to get rid of him.....I could have only imagined how the COP and the UNC would have beat cussbud Achong like steelpan music....They woulda say how the PNM fill up with cussbuds.

[skl]

Imagine a cabinet with Anil Roberts, Hulsie, Devant, Achong, Anand & Inshan


3 of them people not even candidates.

try again.

[Parsifal]

This entire election is just making Patrick Manning and the PNM look like the best thing since sada roti.

I mean to say....Larry Achong is now a COP. It was not as if it was unexpected so I would like all of those who questioned why he was not returned as the PNM candidate for Point Fortin should now see why. The PM has had to deal with persons crossing the floor and it should now be clear to all why Mr. I Love You was such a risk. The memories of Vincent Lasse and Rupert Griffith must have impacted seriously on the PM's thinking.

One can point to any number of candidates in the UNCA and now the COP who have some sort of questionable history.

The PNM's slate, COLLECTIVELY, seems to be head and shoulders over the rest.

I have only two exceptions......Anand Ramlogan and Gillian Lucky.

I would like for Anand Ramlogan to get into parliament. I sense that Tabaquite may really be slipping away from the UNCA.

Gillian does not seem to have the goods to derail Kennedy Swarathsingh in St. Joseph though. His campaign is just outright impressive and is clearly the best managed campaign of any along the East West corridor. I hope that future candidates use his blueprint in the future......work your constituency two years prior to the polls and set up small offices and activist groups everywhere! This guy is just too good by any measure.

[cm103]

I don't see how he could be interested in power if he wasn't given anything more than a campaign manager position. No seat was made available for him and he backing he wife.

About the cussing thing, well I ent agree with that; but if a man on bribery and corruption charges could team up with a FIFA official who acting like football is his personal piggybank to run for government then who is a man who cuss?

That sad eh....

[Somebody007]

You said alot of things right here Parsifal. Firstly, I laughed when you said that the PNM is looking like the best thing since Sada Roti. Another issue is that I would really like to see RLM loose his seat and also Many expect St. Joseph to go to the PNM. So you are right on all your points.

[Somebody007]

I don't see how he could be interested in power if he wasn't given anything more than a campaign manager position. No seat was made available for him and he backing he wife.

About the cussing thing, well I ent agree with that; but if a man on bribery and corruption charges could team up with a FIFA official who acting like football is his personal piggybank to run for government then who is a man who cuss?

That sad eh....


cm103, the COP could bring him in as a Senator if they win.

[cm103]

I don't see how he could be interested in power if he wasn't given anything more than a campaign manager position. No seat was made available for him and he backing he wife.

About the cussing thing, well I ent agree with that; but if a man on bribery and corruption charges could team up with a FIFA official who acting like football is his personal piggybank to run for government then who is a man who cuss?

That sad eh....


cm103, the COP could bring him in as a Senator if they win.

True...quite possible. I don't see it as probably though. If he is being used for election mileage right now to woo his former PNM supporters then after the election that done.

I just think this is a more official capacity for him now. I doubt he used to just tell he wife, 'good luck' in the morning and just leave she like that, he probably was helping out from the early part of her campaign.

[lou_uk]

Can Dookeran control these loose cannons?

Imagine a cabinet with Anil Roberts, Hulsie, Devant, Achong, Anand & Inshan

Lawd fadder

COP had a golden opportunity to take a hard line against prejudice and racism the day after the "these people" speech. Instead, they compressed it and returned it in the form of the candidate for Couva South. Take note that Dookeran boasts of the quality of his slate.

With Devant comes GOPIO and, Sat. Not too long ago GOPIO made a lobby for the NATIONAL Library to be renamed after Sir VS Naipaul, coincidng with his visit. Dookeran also endorsed that call .. Ask him! Sir VS Naipaul was not too impressed and we never heard anymore of it. GOPIO then went after the ethnic composition of the workforce at the Central Bank, Dookeran this time remained silent (as far as I am aware).

Many have seen the strings and highlighted them. Who cyah hear will feel..

Just last Friday I happened to read an article in the Newsday entitled Who wants my vote? by Kevin Baldeosingh:


I must confess, though, that I am especially disappointed in the COP. While I am impressed that their leader has been able to stop his imitation of a bobble-head doll, I am extremely underwhelmed by their approval of Devant Maharaj as a candidate. After all, this is a man who believes that “A de-Hinduised Indian also becomes de-Indianised and even anti-Indian over a period.” What Devant fails to realise is that I badtalk people like him not because I am anti-Indian, but because I am anti-dotish. http://www.newsday.co.tt/commentary/0,66793.html




imagine a cabinet we have present ruling for the next 5 yrs...or a cabinet with Jack, Bas, RLM fighting everyday :mrgreen:

Add Fitzroy Beache.

Speaking of vex people... Sharon Gopaul is now going about the place making a lot of allegations. One of her best ones is that in 1986 the ballot boxes in San Fernando East were tampered with. The more recent one is: during two COP meetings the elctricity went simultaneously. When questioned further, she points fingers at the PNM. Docotr Clifford then mentions the blackout at the PM's residence and that too could have been seen as vandalism. She replies "that was an act of God". He then asks her why one is one and the other is the other. She maintained "that was an act of God".

Take note that her sexual molestation allegations against young boys in the PNM have dried up. I wonder where that went...

As for Achong, never voted for him and never would have. My joy at the thought of him not being selected was already expressed on the previous forum. 8-)

People will come on here and slate others for not dicussing issues. As far as I am concerned, a manifesto could fall from the best tree in the land, but when you look at the people who have dey hand on it, could be a major turn off...

[Maccogirl]

Achong being used to woo PNM supporters all yuh serious :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: if that is the case the COP really don't know PNM supporters at all.

[JPersad]

Macco ,
You never cuss in yuh life ?
This remind me of the tea room brawl .
Storm in a tea cup .
Much ado about nutten !

[cm103]

Achong being used to woo PNM supporters all yuh serious :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: if that is the case the COP really don't know PNM supporters at all.

And the UNC does right? Thats why all their former PNM support going home now.

Best start putting up for Bas defense fund now. His last chance to get the charges dropped if he became PM left when he brought in RLM and tried to enlist Mandela in a cheap play.

Lets see how much leave from trial he go get after elections over.

[Maccogirl]

Yes I can cuss but I wont go on camera and cuss people in public, worse yet if I held the post of a sitting member of parliament in a town meeting, but if the COP can accept that now that Larry has found a new love, I hope you will be just as understanding when his wife does not win her seat and the tells Dookeran "luv u too" :roll:

[cm103]

How about taking money as a member of Parliament? Or taking money as a Prime Minister of a country? You wouldn't cuss but you would do that?

[vaio]

hmmmmmmm.....ah wonder if them questions intelligent enough?? :mrgreen: :geek:

[TheLight]

I could tell allyuh it have allot of vex corpse this morning

I wonder what Manohar saying now :roll:

[TheLight]

Imagine a cabinet with Anil Roberts, Hulsie, Devant, Achong, Anand & Inshan


3 of them people not even candidates.

try again.


I tired tell you I hate playing Dr.Dolittle
Hazel wasn’t a candidate but she in the cabinet, not so?

[Parsifal]

Achong being used to woo PNM supporters all yuh serious :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: if that is the case the COP really don't know PNM supporters at all.

Once you leave the PNM you become a political dead in their eyes. No further mention is made of you....good or bad. Very rarely are you mentioned on a political platform (only Karl and Robbie are exceptions to this) or even in polite conversation. It was as if you did not exist.

Check out the list:

Dr. Patrick Solomon
Ferdie Ferreria
Karl Hudson Phillips
ANR Robinson
Robin Montano
Kenneth Valley
Vincent Lasse
Rupert Griffith
Nello Mitchell

So if the COP intend to use Lawrence Achong in any capacity he really cannot influence anyone in of all places San Fernando West. Marlene killed her own campaign on nomination day with the childish behaviour towards Junia Regrello. She is toast.

[Double Trouble]

Achong being used to woo PNM supporters all yuh serious :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: if that is the case the COP really don't know PNM supporters at all.

Once you leave the PNM you become a political dead in their eyes. No further mention is made of you....good or bad. Very rarely are you mentioned on a political platform (only Karl and Robbie are exceptions to this) or even in polite conversation. It was as if you did not exist.

Check out the list:

Dr. Patrick Solomon
Ferdie Ferreria
Karl Hudson Phillips
ANR Robinson
Robin Montano
Kenneth Valley
Vincent Lasse
Rupert Griffith
Nello Mitchell

So if the COP intend to use Lawrence Achong in any capacity he really cannot influence anyone in of all places San Fernando West. Marlene killed her own campaign on nomination day with the childish behaviour towards Junia Regrello. She is toast.

So Ralph Maharaj is an exception?

[Parsifal]

The list was by no means exhaustive DT.....stop being provocative! :lol:

The dispute between himself and Patrick Manning was stupid to start with but they seemed to have reconciled since 2001. They were friends since school days so I think that that relationship was always different to say the relationship between Manning and Montano. In fact I would go so far to say that Robin Montano would have a quarrel with his own shadow if you ever gave him a chance. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Parsifal]

The PNM operates in a very different way to the rest because they are more conservative by nature.

Also, the leadership has always been more sober and contemplative and not prone to making statements that are made in haste. Whenever they have deviated from their standard practice they are called out on it immediately because it so outside their normal mode of behaviour.

Compare this to the ULF/UNC. They have had one man run their affairs for 31 years! he was PM for 6 of those years and even then it was a roller coaster ride. I do not have to go over the history because it is there for all to see.

[cm103]

So if the COP intend to use Lawrence Achong in any capacity he really cannot influence anyone in of all places San Fernando West. Marlene killed her own campaign on nomination day with the childish behaviour towards Junia Regrello. She is toast.

I doubt that Marlene did any permanent damage to her campaign by that act. I didn't agree with it though. Even boxers touch gloves before a round so she shouldn't have let her emotions get involved...but say wha...it happened.

If people can forget Patos putting up candidates of his own choosing instead of following his supporters wishes, building he big house while the hospital have no beds, parking he jet in Antigua, closing down Caroni and sending people home with $100 after 20 years, closing down BWIA and changing the name, Executive Presidency elected by Parliament with almost unlimited power and Bas with he putting Kamla in her place, corruption charges, losing he seat because his own party didn't renew his extension, the "meeting" with Mandela. Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj (nuff said there) and Jack with he ticket scandal which now all over the BBC then who is Marlene not to shake hands?

[Parsifal]

With all that you can say about Patos and the candidate selection you really cannot say that none are unintelligent, crooked or sleazy.

Compare this to the UNCA and the COP.

One party celebrates the "jailbird" and the other has mismanaged the funds for their own campaign......btw where have all the supposed French Creole and Syrian donors gone to ??? my my my.

So our alternatives to the PNM are either those who will loot the Treasury while the other will just fritter it away!

Allyuh on this forum not easy at all.

On another point....I live in St. Anns and the COP have a sign up that manning is making T&T into the new capital for China. Now what gets me is that S. Anns is the home of the Chinese Association and probably has one of the biggest Chinese populations in T&T. So the sign has already turned off some of their own supporters. hahahahahaha....DAMNED CHUPIDEES! I never tought that Chinese people would get pulled into race talk but the COP has shown us how!

[Parsifal]

cm103.....Marlene was a non-starter in Sando West to start with. She lacks the people skills.

She is trailing badly and Junia Regrello is going to walk away with this seat by a mile....Bishop Jankee is going to poll higher than her.

According to NACTA the PNM is leading here by 16% and growing.

[cm103]

Well if you believe the NACTA then you would have a point. The NACTA has already been discredited in many other Caribbean countries as skewing their figures but you be your own judge of that.

The COP unlike the UNC doesn't rely on major financiers so they're fighting with contributions from their members and the public. At an obvious disadvantage to the richer UNC who has Jack's bank book and the PNM with their never ending supply of silent financiers.

The PNM is currently busy making it better for themselves and their partners by the building of monuments and white elephants while the people suffer through crime and unsuitable health care. Isn't that considered frittering away the Treasury as well?

[skl]

Imagine a cabinet with Anil Roberts, Hulsie, Devant, Achong, Anand & Inshan


3 of them people not even candidates.

try again.


I tired tell you I hate playing Dr.Dolittle
Hazel wasn’t a candidate but she in the cabinet, not so?

LOL so you know who Dookeran going to appoint as Senators ? like you visit the seer woman ?

[Parsifal]

Well if you believe the NACTA then you would have a point. The NACTA has already been discredited in many other Caribbean countries as skewing their figures but you be your own judge of that.

The COP unlike the UNC doesn't rely on major financiers so they're fighting with contributions from their members and the public. At an obvious disadvantage to the richer UNC who has Jack's bank book and the PNM with their never ending supply of silent financiers.

The PNM is currently busy making it better for themselves and their partners by the building of monuments and white elephants while the people suffer through crime and unsuitable health care. Isn't that considered frittering away the Treasury as well?

As you raised the topic of financiers.....weren't the entire Westmoorings, Bayshore and Goodwood Park set supposed to have left the PNM and joined the COP? What has happened to that? I am not being facetious but this group had suddenly been touted as their base. It seems to me that they are not putting their money where their mouth is.

[Maccogirl]

They still voting PNM is only the COP that saying they gone COP :D :D

[cm103]

Well if you believe the NACTA then you would have a point. The NACTA has already been discredited in many other Caribbean countries as skewing their figures but you be your own judge of that.

The COP unlike the UNC doesn't rely on major financiers so they're fighting with contributions from their members and the public. At an obvious disadvantage to the richer UNC who has Jack's bank book and the PNM with their never ending supply of silent financiers.

The PNM is currently busy making it better for themselves and their partners by the building of monuments and white elephants while the people suffer through crime and unsuitable health care. Isn't that considered frittering away the Treasury as well?

As you raised the topic of financiers.....weren't the entire Westmoorings, Bayshore and Goodwood Park set supposed to have left the PNM and joined the COP? What has happened to that? I am not being facetious but this group had suddenly been touted as their base. It seems to me that they are not putting their money where their mouth is.

Very valid point. If you talk to the organizers of the party you would see that these supporters who pledge their support do so when needed. The party puts out a call for funding for events and the supporters answer. It's not a show like the UNC puts on but entertainment is also factored in as well into the calculations. Entertainers also charging a bit more now since they in demand.

The lack of funds talk mainly stems from the lack of reserves or lack of a single financier's bankbook in the UNC's case. While the UNC may have funds to transport their supporters around to meetings, rent out tents and a big stage to make the crowd look larger the COP uses it's money for more constructive matters.

I see Macco still happy the PNM getting votes and not the COP. I noticing that every time she getting picong she get serious about the PNM taking all seats but she all too happy for them to get the votes instead of the COP if the focus not on her. Thinking like that really makes me wonder if Bas and Patos trying to pull a Badase and Eric on us again.

[skl]

LOL speaking of financing .Manning still calling for parties to reveal thier financiers ? Panday still accusing COP of being funded by drug lords ?

[Parsifal]

They still voting PNM is only the COP that saying they gone COP :D :D

Not according to Sharmain Baboolal. She wrote a piece on how "flat" Rowley has been and by her rationale it is because his "Westmoorings" friends have deserted him.

I just wanted to laugh.....so I did :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Maccogirl]

She must of been drunk that is all I have to say, just up to last night PNM was out in full force on the highway doing a little flier adjustments, music truck and all :lol: :lol: true it was not the Westmorring crowd out there but am sure they must of been cussing at the "sweeping time" ringing in their ears at night :lol: :lol:


I hope the good lady know that Keith won his seat the last time with close to 11,000 vote and I sure Westmorring does not have 11,000 people living in there, I always keep saying that these COP supporters don't know what it entails to win a seat. Once they feel they have a handful of people from Westmorrings behind them they feel PNM lorse :lol: :lol: :lol:

[cm103]

She must of been drunk that is all I have to say, just up to last night PNM was out in full force on the highway doing a little flier adjustments, music truck and all :lol: :lol: true it was not the Westmorring crowd out there but am sure they must of been cussing at the "sweeping time" ringing in their ears at night :lol: :lol:


I hope the good lady know that Keith won his seat the last time with close to 11,000 vote and I sure Westmorring does not have 11,000 people living in there, I always keep saying that these COP supporters don't know what it entails to win a seat. Once they feel they have a handful of people from Westmorrings behind them they feel PNM lorse :lol: :lol: :lol:

But yuh happy in this thread that the PNM in front....another thread today you warning about when the get back in power.

UNC ever had a chance there?

[Parsifal]

Very valid point. If you talk to the organizers of the party you would see that these supporters who pledge their support do so when needed. The party puts out a call for funding for events and the supporters answer. It's not a show like the UNC puts on but entertainment is also factored in as well into the calculations. Entertainers also charging a bit more now since they in demand.

The lack of funds talk mainly stems from the lack of reserves or lack of a single financier's bankbook in the UNC's case. While the UNC may have funds to transport their supporters around to meetings, rent out tents and a big stage to make the crowd look larger the COP uses it's money for more constructive matters.

I see Macco still happy the PNM getting votes and not the COP. I noticing that every time she getting picong she get serious about the PNM taking all seats but she all too happy for them to get the votes instead of the COP if the focus not on her. Thinking like that really makes me wonder if Bas and Patos trying to pull a Badase and Eric on us again.

I have a slightly different take on it as folllows.

In the 2006 US Senate race in Tennessee, Harold Ford Jr. was either 1-2 points ahead or behind the Republican candidate. Harold Ford Jr. is black and a Democrat going up in a Southern state that had not elected a black since the Reconstruction at the end of the Civil War. However the political pundits then used another tool to gauge support....the Las Vegas bookies.

They listed the Republican as the heavy odds on favourite.

Why one would naturally ask since the opinion polls had it so close?

Answer, people only put their money behind something that they view as a sure thing and bet with their gut. You might like somebody or a particular idea....but will you be willing to bet your bank account or home on it?

That is the dilemma facing the COP. The moneyed class may like the sound of the COP but they are unwilling to bankroll their run.

They have recognized that the odds are not in the COP's favour and so are not parting with their cash.....at least not to the COP.

So I still think Keith and Patrick got their usual contributions from this set......in the same way Bas is still getting an appreciable amount from Valsyn and Gulf View.

[cm103]

I have a slightly different take on it as folllows.

In the 2006 US Senate race in Tennessee, Harold Ford Jr. was either 1-2 points ahead or behind the Republican candidate. Harold Ford Jr. is black and a Democrat going up in a Southern state that had not elected a black since the Reconstruction at the end of the Civil War. However the political pundits then used another tool to gauge support....the Las Vegas bookies.

They listed the Republican as the heavy odds on favourite.

Why one would naturally ask since the opinion polls had it so close?

Answer, people only put their money behind something that they view as a sure thing and bet with their gut. You might like somebody or a particular idea....but will you be willing to bet your bank account or home on it?

That is the dilemma facing the COP. The moneyed class may like the sound of the COP but they are unwilling to bankroll their run.

They have recognized that the odds are not in the COP's favour and so are not parting with their cash.....at least not to the COP.

So I still think Keith and Patrick got their usual contributions from this set......in the same way Bas is still getting an appreciable amount from Valsyn and Gulf View.

Hey, maybe you're right. Or maybe I'm right. I not privy to the financial matters of other parties as I am with the COP though. I do support the call to make all party contributions public or at least put some rules and laws on them so an oversight committee could keep tabs on the spending.

I guess we'll know in November.

[Parsifal]

For my part I am not privy o it either but I think it is a good educated guess as to what has been happening.

I agree on the transparency issues as well.

Case in point when the PNM fund raiser "Conversations with the Prime Minister" was leaked to the press and the $100,000 entrance fee was made public you saw how quickly it got canceled? It had nothing to do with exposing people to the kidnappers etc. but that it would have exposed a number of persons who publicly say one thing to their friends and business associates but use the back door to gain influence for themselves.

Such is the nature of our petty bourgeouise and picaroon society.

[cm103]

Well transparency to a point eh...

In this day and age you really don't know who watching your finances if you're a contributor to a certain political party. That's why I said maybe a oversight commission or a subcommittee of the integrity commission to watchdog campaign funding and expenditure.

Just wanted to make that point clear.

[Maccogirl]

Listen I have said it so many time over and over that the COP cannot beat PNM in D/Martin, who Rocky Garcia beating Rowley get real nah, the man cant even talk good one set of nonsene the white Trini coming with on the platform about conscious vibes and total nonsense, when in heavens name does Rock Garcia relate to being a roots man??

What utter nonsense and he wants sensible people to vote for him?? Listen to the man speak on the platform is one set a nonsense about Rastafari and Jah, I can just see that fool sitting in parliament telling the people its a conscious vibe he feeling, waaaaaaaste ah time, to coin his phrase, no man you all cant be serious and then you take offense if I say PNM winning D/Matin, of course they will and by a wide margin too. :roll:

[peanut]

All this throwing words back and forth, it eh serving no useful purpose ... LARRY ACHONG WAS, IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE PNM and all yuh take that to yuh banks :!:

[cm103]

MG, where did I also say that the COP was winning Diego? You went off on a tangent here with something off base.

I don't take offense if you say the PNM winning Diego. The PNM has held both east and west for donkey years now. I merely stated that you seemed happy they were winning here and in another thread you warning about them winning.

Lets talk about nonsense when we can agree on politicians with corruption charges running for office. I still ent hear how that benefitting the country if our potential PM have to take court days or the other potential PM on BBC for ethical violation in FIFA.

[JPersad]

Wow what a wonderful addition to the COP family, I am sure this new member will enhance the entire campaign of the COP taking them one step closer to victory :D The "I love you" man can then address the COP gathering and give them his own special type of blessing "luv you, luv you" to my COP brothers and sisters :D :D :D



http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161225164 (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161225164)
Come on Macco.
You are well aware that there is a young female UNC speaker who does come in here and can put Achong to shame !

[Sumana]

Wow what a wonderful addition to the COP family, I am sure this new member will enhance the entire campaign of the COP taking them one step closer to victory :D The "I love you" man can then address the COP gathering and give them his own special type of blessing "luv you, luv you" to my COP brothers and sisters :D :D :D



http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161225164 (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161225164)
Come on Macco.
You are well aware that there is a young female UNC speaker who does come in here and can put Achong to shame !


Still insecure about yourself around me? :roll: it's understandable.

[lou_uk]

Listen I have said it so many time over and over that the COP cannot beat PNM in D/Martin, who Rocky Garcia beating Rowley get real nah, the man cant even talk good one set of nonsene the white Trini coming with on the platform about conscious vibes and total nonsense, when in heavens name does Rock Garcia relate to being a roots man??

What utter nonsense and he wants sensible people to vote for him?? Listen to the man speak on the platform is one set a nonsense about Rastafari and Jah, I can just see that fool sitting in parliament telling the people its a conscious vibe he feeling, waaaaaaaste ah time, to coin his phrase, no man you all cant be serious and then you take offense if I say PNM winning D/Matin, of course they will and by a wide margin too. :roll:

LoL... Though that article was hilarious, it says a lot of our country.



Rocky road for Mr Dookeran

Judy Raymond

Trinidad Express
Tuesday, October 30th 2007


Gary Griffith was supposed to be speaking in Santa Cruz on Saturday night. Instead he was standing in a crowd on Saddle Road in Maraval, holding his small son and listening to his wife speak.

Mr Griffith is the COP candidate for St Ann's East, and earlier, in search of a COP meeting in that constituency, I'd made for Uncle Beddoe's Supermarket, not far from the Croisee. I was looking for one of the party's two "big" meetings advertised for that night, to see what kind-and size-of crowd they got.

The answer was none at all. Instead there was a small PNM platform in Uncle Beddoe's car park, along with a handful of Anthony Roberts supporters. It seemed the COP venue had been hijacked.

So I ended up at the party's meeting in Maraval. There COP organiser Ken Emrith later told me the PNM was due to hold a meeting "next door" to Uncle Beddoe's, so the COP had decided to postpone its meeting until Thursday, for fear of a clash between supporters. They weren't taking any chances after that day's attack on their Laventille West candidate, David Sinclair.

Mr Griffith's wife, Nicole Dyer of Diego Martin Central, spoke about the attack, angrily and articulately, urging COP supporters not to be intimidated by it. She is becoming, despite her lack of political experience, a very good platform speaker, which is rather unfortunate for the COP: something has to be wrong if a novice is the best orator in the party.

The COP's most extraordinary performer, however, is surely Rocky Garcia, the candidate for Diego Martin West. He came out swinging, apparently rapping-inaudibly-over the music of "Sweet T&T."

But even after the music stopped it was difficult to understand what he said. "Solid as a rock"-his campaign slogan-"is grassroots," he yelled, "but is a consciousness I refer to the thing called conscious, and we can only get it by change."

Volume couldn't compensate for clarity, but I can say for sure that Mr Garcia expressed concern about poverty and the need for racial unity.

"Rastafari!" he bawled unexpectedly (Mr Garcia may be grassroots, but he is also middle-aged and white). "Positive vibration! We have to bridge the gaps between rich and poor so we can weigh the scale and bring it up to consciousness."

He was contemptuous of the other parties: "We can't go down voting for PNM 'cause is a black man thing! Waaaste of time! We can't go down voting for UNC 'cause is a Indian man thing! Waaaste of time!"

Then there was Winston Dookeran. Up to now I haven't worked out whether COP members see Mr Dookeran as a charismatic leader or a figurehead. If the former, why? And if the latter, why him?

Mr Dookeran himself is admirably quick to credit the various teams of experts who have formulated the party's policies on issues such as justice, and agriculture. He listed some of these experts on Saturday, adding in his English-as-a-second-language way that the party was "deeply embedded with democracy."


Poor Mr Dookeran is now speaking at two meetings a night, or more-that day he'd already been in Morvant and St Augustine. Sadly, practice has not made perfect. On Saturday night he told the crowd-mostly middle-class, middle-aged folks from the area-that under a COP government there would be a ministry of justice "so that the rule of law is prevailed." Security was the primary issue a government should concern itself with, and the COP would "enforce the law on anti-crime and anti-laundering." He tried to communicate something about the PNM's secret Constitution, warning that there seemed to be more than one version, which added "more compunction" to the problem.

Well, sometimes you know what he's trying to say. But does he? It's not just nit-picking to notice his green verbs, tortured syntax, malapropisms, wrong tenses and non-sequiturs.


There are many kinds of intelligence, but among those required of a national leader is the sort that involves clear and rational thinking, and the way Mr Dookeran speaks doesn't inspire confidence in his thought processes.

Or his eyesight: "It's a wonderful sight to see all of Trinidad and Tobago here tonight," he said. The evening's chairman, Roy Augustus, also tried to put a positive spin on the small size of the meeting: it was a local crowd, he said accurately, with not a maxi taxi in sight.

The Maraval gathering, however, though the crowd was keen, didn't look like a national meeting held by a winning party mere days before an election.

But then, some very odd things are happening in this campaign. A week earlier, the PNM could only pull a surprisingly small and sluggish audience in Diamond Vale, at the heart of one of its Diego Martin strongholds. The UNC is bringing in massive crowds-though generally in fleets of maxi taxis-yet scoring in single digits in some of the wildly contradictory opinion polls. With less than a week to go before the election, any number could play.

[JPersad]

Wow what a wonderful addition to the COP family, I am sure this new member will enhance the entire campaign of the COP taking them one step closer to victory :D The "I love you" man can then address the COP gathering and give them his own special type of blessing "luv you, luv you" to my COP brothers and sisters :D :D :D



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Come on Macco.
You are well aware that there is a young female UNC speaker who does come in here and can put Achong to shame !


Still insecure about yourself around me? :roll: it's understandable.
Sumana,
So it was you !
Thanks for the confirmation .
Regards,
JP

[Sumana]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Everyone knows that you make a past time of attacking me on this board like a little primary school kid.
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