View Full Version : Who is NACTA?
fluxxx
10-29-2007, 01:19 PM
Just today I tried looking up some information on this highly touted organisation which certain Caribbean political parties seem to place such high esteem in. What I found most strange and disturbing is that they apparently dont even have a website!
Who are they?
Who comprises their membership?
Why is a teachers organisation so interested in doing political polls?
Who funds them?
Where is their policy document concerning the taking of polls in Trinidad?
Why is Vishnu Bisram apparently the only member?
Can someone more knowledgeable on the polling agencies please help me out here?
NACTA is an arm of the ruling party of Guyana the communist PPP, Vishnu Bisram is a very high ranking member of that party's overseas group in NYC.
Its no secret that Bisram and the PPP party would like to see Panday back in charge of T&T's purse strings so as to benefit Guyana. (During the 2002 elections Bisram showed up on UNC platforms telling Indos that his "Poll" was "to close call" dispite a UWI poll putting the PNM a full 9 points ahead of the UNC, of course Bisram would NEVER show up on a PNM platform saying the same thing)
The UNC and the PPP party has very close working polices, ever wondered where the UNC got the idea for Secondary School Assessment from? that failed state called Guyana!(Panday was always feted and treated like royalty when ever he visted there as PM or even opposition leader)
I recall after some flooding in Guyana which showed the incompetence of the PPP gov't for all to see, UNC politicians began demanding aid $$$ for the gov't of Guyana!(or risked be called racist) and of course the Manning gov't rapidly complied with about a million US $ for pumps none of which was ever used to fight the flood waters but ended up missing or stolen by connected ppl.
One of Panday's right hand men and "adviser" is born in Guyana and a member of the PPP party, and there are many others in T&T right as we speak working in the media and in other fields like writing fake letters in daily Newspapers, claiming to be "kidnapped" (Panday's right hand Guyanese "Lawyer")
damianr
11-01-2007, 09:28 AM
Facts:
NACTA has predicted the outcome of every election in Trinidad and Tobago since 1995
It’s no rocket science - if you take a well proportioned sample population based on particular constituencies (not the popular vote) NACTA's findings are no surprises - PNM Safe in 16 - 18 seats, UNC Safe in 13 -15 seats - COP Strongest in the Marginals where you find Mid class, more educated, mixed races etc - COP supporters are voting along the lines of good governance, change and the issues and not race. Unfortunately the Grass roots 33 constituencies do vote along racial lines.
In 1981 the ONR received some 91,000 votes while the ULF received around 60,000, however the ULF won 8 Grass roots seats and the ONR did not win a single seat - in Trinidad politics, getting the popular vote does not mean you get the seats.
I'm a realist, not a big fan of the Warner/Panday antics, I support the COP, but their presence will only ensure a PNM Gov't for the next 5 years.
I say we get the PNM out, then strengthen the COP in the next 5 years to truly oppose the UNC, if they stick to it they'll be a seasoned party by next elections
We need to let reality set in, and common sense prevail
peanut
11-01-2007, 09:47 AM
And how yuh propose to get the PNM out and when?
The attached image has all the constituencies.
I think PNM is strong in 19:
1. Arouca/ Maloney
2. Arima
3. Diego Martin Central
4. Diego Martin North East
5. Diego Martin West
6. La Brea
7. Laventille East
8. Laventille West
9. Point Fortin
10.Port-of-Spain North/ St. Anns West
11.Port-of-Spain South
12.San Fernando East
13.St. Anns East
14.Toco/ Sangre Grande
15.Dabadie/ O'mera
16.La Horquetta/ Talparo
17.Lopinot/ Bon Air West
18.Tobago East
19.Tobago West
and UNC-A is strong in 16:
1. Caroni Central
2. Caroni East
3. Chaguanas East
4. Chaguanas West
5. Couva North
6. Couva South
7. Fyzabad
8. Naparima
9. Oropouche East
10.Oropouche West
11.Princes Town South/ Tableland
12.Princes Town North
13.Siparia
14.St. Augustine
15.Tabaquite
16.Cumoto/ Manzanilla
And these are 6 marginals which will be decisive:
Mayaro
Pointe-a-Pierre
San Fernando West
San Juan/Barataria
St. Joseph
Tunapuna
Somebody007
11-01-2007, 09:57 AM
PNM taking St. Joseph, Tunapuna and Point ah Pierre for sure. Princes Town South is a marginal seat.
Somebody, if you are right then PNM will be the government, UNC-A the opposition [and COP the minority opposition if they get a seat at all].
How are things in Tobago though? Is it a run away race for PNM or does the Hochoy Charles amalgamation have a chance?
Somebody007
11-01-2007, 10:18 AM
Somebody, if you are right then PNM will be the government, UNC-A the opposition [and COP the minority opposition if they get a seat at all].
How are things in Tobago though? Is it a run away race for PNM or does the Hochoy Charles amalgamation have a chance?
I really cyar talk for the COP but I really do hope they win something....It could be one of them marginals self they might win....UNC not winning this election. I could put money on that one for sure. Tobago is all PNM at the moment....That is PNM safe seat.
Somebody007
11-01-2007, 10:21 AM
For sure, PNM taking St. Joseph and Tunapuna.....Point ah Pierre, I doh know but Christine Kangaloo in for a big fight if she have to win down there. That one could go anywhere. Princes Town South....alot of PNMites moved down in that area for the last 5 years hence why that seat is becoming marginal.
damianr
11-01-2007, 11:40 AM
And how yuh propose to get the PNM out and when?
It’s a long shot, a hopeless cause, but It’s a hard defeat to accept, and I for one won't stop fighting until the fat lady sings, hopefully the UNC will make some innovative play for public support on Saturday (make Kamala PM or something like that)
But simultaneously I think we who could see clearly (not confused by race or emotion) should come together and plan a mass citizen campaign:
I think Such an effort should be organized into three main focus areas:
1) Direct COP votes to the UNC in the following areas:
Mayaro
Pointe-a-Pierre
San Fernando West
San Juan/Barataria
St. Joseph
Tunapuna
Tabaquite
Do this by:
a) getting the message out to every online forum that we could find (there is a high percentage of COP supporters online), no emotion just facts
b) call everyone we know in these areas and talk
c) walk from door to door if we have to – wearing a UNC tee shirt and a COP Hat
2) Send letters and emails to the COP Candidates in those areas to beg for them to selflessly direct votes to the UNC – if they don’t do this their political careers will be over when reality hits the public on Nov 6th – this is a noble gesture that would strengthen their future positions, for eg. This is Annand Ramlogan’s only choice for a political future – when he wins Tabaquite and the PNM wins the election, he will never be able to show his face in politics again.
3) Mount the same approach – target friends, online communities and candidates – to direct all UNC votes to COP candidates in the following constituencies:
La Brea
Point Fortin
San Fernando East
Toco/ Sangre Grande
La Horquetta/ Talparo
I know these seem to be pie in the sky ideas, and this is a lost cause, kind of like the 300 hundred against the Persian army, but I won’t be able to live with myself if I don’t give this everything I’ve got
When I board the plane with my family next year to try and find a better life somewhere else, having given up friends, family, a great job, nice home etc. , I must feel assured that I did everything in my power to stop the madness.
If the leaders of the opposition parties are too proud to see that this is the only hope for our future, then we must do our own uniting at the voter and candidate levels.
"Small minded people talk about people, Big people talk about ideas"
JPersad
11-01-2007, 11:52 AM
And how yuh propose to get the PNM out and when?
It’s a long shot, a hopeless cause, but It’s a hard defeat to accept, and I for one won't stop fighting until the fat lady sings, hopefully the UNC will make some innovative play for public support on Saturday (make Kamala PM or something like that)
But simultaneously I think we who could see clearly (not confused by race or emotion) should come together and plan a mass citizen campaign:
I think Such an effort should be organized into three main focus areas:
1) Direct COP votes to the UNC in the following areas:
Mayaro
Pointe-a-Pierre
San Fernando West
San Juan/Barataria
St. Joseph
Tunapuna
Tabaquite
Do this by:
a) getting the message out to every online forum that we could find (there is a high percentage of COP supporters online), no emotion just facts
b) call everyone we know in these areas and talk
c) walk from door to door if we have to – wearing a UNC tee shirt and a COP Hat
2) Send letters and emails to the COP Candidates in those areas to beg for them to selflessly direct votes to the UNC – if they don’t do this their political careers will be over when reality hits the public on Nov 6th – this is a noble gesture that would strengthen their future positions, for eg. This is Annand Ramlogan’s only choice for a political future – when he wins Tabaquite and the PNM wins the election, he will never be able to show his face in politics again.
3) Mount the same approach – target friends, online communities and candidates – to direct all UNC votes to COP candidates in the following constituencies:
La Brea
Point Fortin
San Fernando East
Toco/ Sangre Grande
La Horquetta/ Talparo
I know these seem to be pie in the sky ideas, and this is a lost cause, kind of like the 300 hundred against the Persian army, but I won’t be able to live with myself if I don’t give this everything I’ve got
When I board the plane with my family next year to try and find a better life somewhere else, having given up friends, family, a great job, nice home etc. , I must feel assured that I did everything in my power to stop the madness.
If the leaders of the opposition parties are too proud to see that this is the only hope for our future, then we must do our own uniting at the voter and candidate levels.
"Small minded people talk about people, Big people talk about ideas"
I understand what you are trying to ay , but it will not happen because we simply do not trust Basdeo Panday .
So the answer is NO .
JediKnight
11-01-2007, 12:01 PM
Who is NACTA? Vishnu Bisramesh.
What does NACTA stand for? Not Able to Count and Tabulate Anything. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Who is NACTA? Vishnu Bisramesh.
What does NACTA stand for? Not Able to Count and Tabulate Anything. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
ah like that one!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
JPersad
11-01-2007, 12:22 PM
If you guys read todays Express you will see how bias this NACTA poll is .
RLM probably promise NACTA some bigtime contract when the UNC win .
Problem i UNC not going to win.
damianr
11-01-2007, 12:49 PM
And how yuh propose to get the PNM out and when?If the leaders of the opposition parties are too proud to see that this is the only hope for our future, then we must do our own uniting at the voter and candidate levels.
"Small minded people talk about people, Big people talk about ideas"
I understand what you are trying to ay , but it will not happen because we simply do not trust Basdeo Panday .
So the answer is NO .
I totally understand your animosity towards Ramesh and Panday - they have us catching our tail in the last 6 years, between the two of them they are entirely responsible for us being in the situation we're in -
Keep in mind however, that all the things that Mr. Manning has done in the past 6 years have been muffled by the fact that he does not have a majority - after this election when that man take the gloves off and is able to be himself .. he will stop at nothing, and we will be wishing we did something when it really mattered
I have a wife and two young kids, and ah Indian last name - I feel strongly that my family will be persecuted based on race if Mr. Manning is allowed to get 24 seats - and between the rape, robbery, murder, road fatalities, poor medical attention 3-4 hrs in traffic every day etc. I know that we will be forced to leave T&T
A couple years ago a family member was killed in an accident on the highway, her body was thrown out of the car and she bled slowly to death for 5 hours, because the police didn't have a flash light to look for her and left her there intentionally to go back to the station and play card – later there was an official investigation which was led by the police (you know how that turned out).
Ambulances don't even have tablets, much less life saving equipment and medication
I know this is a lost cause and Mr. Manning has already won, but for me to sleep at night I must satisfy my conscience that I did all that I possibly could to prevent the madness.
Mayaro is a safe seat. Princes town south is the marginal.
Despite thier names the current Mayaro seat is largely the former Nariva seat and the current Princes Town South seat is largely the former Ortoire/Mayaro seat.
Is it a 50-50 marginal or does one party have an advantage?
Is it a 50-50 marginal or does one party have an advantage?
Princes Town South is 51% UNC-49% PNM marginal.
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