BIG6- TNT VS USA

[shotta]

Current Standings CONCACAF WC Qualifying



Team MP W D L Pts
USA 1 1 0 4
Mexico 1 0 1 3
Costa Rica 1 0 1 3
El Salvador 0 2 2 2
TNT 0 2 0 2
Honduras 0 0 1 1

Next games:

TNT VS USA
MEX VS HON
ES VS CRC


Against it
TNT have put themselves in a sticky situation drawing two games they should of got maximum points from to ensure a somewhat realistic chance of a birth in 2010 WC in South Africa.
The Soca Warriors now face the three top teams in the region in search of the 18pts needed for automatic qualification.
Here at TTonline we discuss the next game which features powerhouse USA against the warriors without their influential captain, Dwight Yorke but will welcome back The White Knight, Christopher Birchall.

No weak teams
There is no weak teams in the final hex, most of you will agree to qualify we must beat a big team along the way. No one will be expecting a win in Nashville where you won't find many islanders, USA did their homework well. The warriors will not be faced with a hostile environment in USA but will be under alot of pressure playing against their biggest rivals.
TNTNT needs to give thier fans something to cheer about since both lackluster performances have them settled in fifth position after two matches.

Concerns
My primary concern is the ability to deal with set plays, like I said before teams almost never score on us in the run of play, we concede to many goals from corners and free kicks, this needs addressing. Our ball movement out of the back is still shaky, we don't have flowing football like we saw in Germany.

Discuss
Comments, views, links to steams and predictions are welcomed!

[Acid]

The game will be live on ESPN 2 [20:00 TT time]

Radio (In TT) : 91.1FM, 95.5fm, 102.1fm

Online Radio: http://www.ctntworld.com/livestream/index.html


The US plays with a high back 4.

Without Yorke, I suspect we will be playing the long ball game. Hence we will need an attacker with lots of speed and good strenght to beat that offside trap and to win balls in the air. Swansea plays that type of football so it would be better to play with Scotland as the lone striker and allow Lawerence to play a more roaming role due to height. Cornell Glen would be valuable too (as a substitute after Scotland runs out of fuel).

If Stern gets the nod, then he will have to be very cautious about making runs to avoid being offside.

I suggest we play a 4-5-1 formation with Birchall being the link between the 4 midfielders and the 4 defenders. He is the only man with the stamina to play that sweeping role.

I'm hoping for 0-0 (since it has been ages since we've scored on US soil).

[shotta]

If I am not mistaken, the last time TNT got a result in USA was in 1989 when the strike squad drew 1-1 in a WC Qualifying game.

I would of liked to see Glenn against Honduras certainly over Scotland. Jason had shots on target but never really looked like scoring, he did track back to help the midfield thou. Don't count Stern John out guys, he still has the ambition to make amends for his penalty miss against El Salvador, I believe in him and when he scores it's always a beautiful goal.
The service will be very important for TNT versus the USA, I suspect a hard midfield battle with Birchall and Carlos up against Dempsey and Masterano.

USA will try to score early against TNT, it has worked for them in the past and they will try to get the crowd behind the team early. TNT must remain solid at the back to have any chance of getting a positive result in this very important WC Qualifying game.

[Acid]

What the experts (Derek Rae, Tommy Smyth, Janusz Michallik, Shaka Hislop) say in the preview of the USA vs TT game:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=402770 ... id=2731137 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4027702&categoryid=2731137)

[Beetle]

^ Ok, I don't like that fat bald guy's comment that there's another 3 points coming fro the USA. Also, why didn't Shaka correct the guy who said that TNT has never taken a point on the road against the USA ?

[Acid]

I thought Shaka would have pulled up Tommy Smyth's socks after that comment but he let it slip [Hutson Charles rescued a point with a late equalizer in the Italia '90 campaign].

[Scorpio]

This will be hard to watch. :?

[shotta]

Can't wait.. De Warriors ARE HERE

[Ali]

shotta allyuh try and make some noise eh...never witnessed a crowd so dead as i did on Saturday :? ....the away fans made more cheers than the home fans....and they only numbered around 100 :roll:

Good luck TNT!....hope Birchall in the midfield will make a difference....to me he always does...we need men to buss some shots from outside....cya score if u eh shoot :roll:

what time is the game anyone?

[Acid]

Quarter to 8 tonight (TT time)

[Ali]

thanks Acid

[Falcon]

wake me up when its over....

[shotta]

shotta allyuh try and make some noise eh..
Ali doh worry, USA fans don't make any noise either lol.
LOL@Falcon

[Falcon]

ShevchenkOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!! :twisted:

[bigzack]

But wey de jail is this?

Ah hear Bolivia beating Argentina 6 - 1.

[bigzack]

Venezuela 2 Columbia 0.

[Falcon]

I thought venez was playing the country tonight, not the state. Is it a friendly?

[bigzack]

Falcon

It appears that it was a world cup qualifier that was played last night.

http://qualifiers.jumptv.com/en/highlights/venezuela-vs-colombia/

[Acid]

Playing 3600m above sea level in La Paz is what you really call "Home advantage."

This was the Argentina team:

Juan Carrizo

Javier Zanetti
Martín Demichelis
Gabriel Heinze
Emiliano Papa

Maxi Rodríguez
Javier Mascherano
Fernando Gago
Luis Oscar González

Lionel Messi
Carlos Tevez

Subs
Angel Di María
Marcos Angeleri
Daniel Montenegro

[Acid]

Starting line up: 4-4-2

Goal Keeper
Ince

Defence
Akile Edwards - Keyeno Thomas - Lawerence - Wolfe

Midfield
Carlos Edwards - Birchall - Daniel - Leon

Forward
John - Jones

[hassanvoyeau]

I feeling a Birchall goal tonight.

[Acid]

USA score 13'. 1-0

Carlos Edwards only trying to beats too much just outside his own penalty box.

That ref eh blowing for fouls at all.

[Mr Majik]

http://atdhe.net/Dis flickin site list de match time @ 8:30 EST. Steups.
Ah tun it on at de said time only tuh see is 1-0 and half hour gone arready....
Steups!

[Acid]

That #3 in the left back position getting out paced and beat real bad time after time by Altidore

[Scorpio]

USA playing crap, but TNT making them look good.

[shotta]

We lorse..

[Wayne]

As you all know the final score was 3-0 for USA.....This was the Jozy Altidore Show......this 19
year old that was a substitute........scored a hat-trick against TnT........Clayton Ince,the TnT
goalie played really bad......in my opinion ,the goalie is TnT's weak link.Where was TnT's offense
in this game.....I may be on a"rant"..............but I am sure that I am "right"........ENT?

[Poser]

As you all know the final score was 3-0 for USA.....This was the Jozy Altidore Show......this 19
year old that was a substitute........scored a hat-trick against TnT........Clayton Ince,the TnT
goalie played really bad......in my opinion ,the goalie is TnT's weak link.Where was TnT's offense
in this game.....I may be on a"rant"..............but I am sure that I am "right"........ENT?
not the same game I was watching ..

the forwards were out hustled .. the defense was non existent ..

the skills were not there tonight .. no confidence whatsoever

shameful.... bad coaching .. bad subs

.

[Wayne]

Shotta,I cannot analyze like you and Poser but I totally agree with allyuh analysis.......Ince should not goal keep for TnT's National Team......

[Ali]

USA playing crap, but TNT making them look good.

dem eh play crap to me at all na :roll: .....like we cant handle the pace or something yes....we taking too long to execute plays....losing the ball too easily, or rather giving it away free of charge :roll:

next up Costa Rica :|

[Acid]

USA 3 - 0 T&T
HON 3 - 1 MEX
C.R. 1 - 0 ELS

1. USA 7 (+5 GD)
2. C.R. 6 (+1 GD)
3. HON 4 (0 GD)
4. MEX 3 (-2 GD)
5. ELS 2 (-1 GD)
6. T&T 2 (-3 GD)

[Falcon]

Table-proppers

[shield_2006]

Well-Now I know what happened last night. After the performance against Honduras-I refused to watch this game anticipating what has occurred and I am not surprised about the result nor the comments about the play.

[Ali]

^yup no surprise.....i personally predicted a 3-0 defeat :blackeye:

[bigzack]

As you all know the final score was 3-0 for USA.....This was the Jozy Altidore Show......this 19 year old that was a substitute........scored a hat-trick against TnT

Allyuh help me out here. I didn't watch the game last night. As soon as I see the team come out last night, I tell mih wife leh we goh in the gym. I was hoping that the little boy whose hand Stern John was holding was starting for T&T.

Ah see this report in the MLS news.


Altidore, who hasn't played a minute for his club team this season, struck in the 13th, 71st and 89th minutes as the U.S. (2-0-1, seven points) maintained its lead atop the CONCACAF final hexagonal. Trinidad (0-1-2, two points) suffered its first loss.

Then ah see this picture from the Front Page of the Trinidad and Tobago Guardian:

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So ah 19 year old black boy score ah hattrick for the USA, but the Guardian see a receding hairline white fella.

What dem fellas at the Guardian does be drinking when de night come?

[Ali]

nooooooooooooooooooo ah cya belive what ah seein dey :shock: :shock:

now if somebody in the US see dat dey go say we eh know one a$$ about football....and we want to go up for world cup.

ah rel shame for dem oui :oops:

how bloody embarassing! :x :x

[Falcon]

Guardian hooked on the blue eyed upper classes 8-)

[Falcon]

Ali, that's ok, they can't really complain. They still dont even call the sport by its correct name.

[vaio]

sigh, guess we lost!

[Ali]

true but whatever dey call it, dey playing it good :|

dey even have pic of the man celebrating d goal :roll: .....God alone know which match dat picture is from......sigh

[Honey]

Lawd have mercy. Is not even a typo eh. I feeling shame for The Guardian. :roll:

[Falcon]

They probably google " USA scores against TT" and take the first pic....

dat Wolfie need some skoolin'

[Honey]

Do they apologise for errors? :humm: :roll: The should!

[Falcon]

they will say Landon in america, and the hattrick hero there too- that they dont read guardian therefore no offence had been taken, and of course, if you love TT you'll take it lying down.

[bigzack]

The Guardian make me shame more than we "DohCare Worriers".

Who goh guard de Guardian?

[Falcon]

03

[Acid]

Highlights of the game:
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/vid ... id=2731137 (http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/clip?id=null&categoryid=2731137)

The USA players were real pappy-showing that TT defence like how Falcon claim he used to play back in the day.

[mammadon]

Embarrassing. Woeful. Hopeless.

to me, that sums up yesterday's performance......

[Wayne]

Clayton Ince really looked pathetic.However not as pathetic as the goalie from Argentina where
Bolivia gave them 6-1.......And Argentina's first team was playing(Messi and Tevez),not like when
Trinidad beat USA bench last year in TnT......Ent?.......TnT has Costa Rica on 6 June and then
Honduras after that,and both ah dem teams have plenty momentum.......After the USA defeat
3-0........I don't think that Soca Warriors going to South Africa WC 2010.Not with Ince as the
goalie.....after the third goal by Jozy Altidore........Ince had a "frightened look" on his face as he
sat on the field..........and the coach Francisco Mata"run"a........better run........because he is done.............and Carlos Edwards doing his best.........and Stern John "plenty tired".......and.....
I gone yes..............ENT?_Front.jpg[/attachment]...........And as where the guardian gets their
"swagger"........their "Bold and the Boldface" attitude......GUARDIAN is on top of "his" head...ent?

[Falcon]

Acid, I was a finisher in the Klinsmann mode, no dribbling for me......I fraid kick too bad. :)

[Acid]

Well I have to say that after watching that game lastnight all of the Trini defenders and midfielders (except Birchall) look like they fraid kick because they weren't going into any tackles.

[Falcon]

was it on the espn channel on sky????

[Acid]

Talking about Sky ... I now see Mexico just fire Eriksson

[Falcon]

dat man does negotiate big big severance pay in he contracts...........firing doesnt harm his confidence

[Acid]

Well it look like the TTFF different because Maturana still on the payroll with TT having less points than games played.

[Falcon]

:lol:

[bigzack]

We have tuh be the best people in the world. After we lose we doh mash up de place and riot, we does party.

http://guardian.co.tt/sports/football/2009/04/03/tt-party-after-defeat-fans-consider-boycott


What made this interesting was that it started at around 11 pm in downtown Nashville and finished at approximately 2.30 pm with several T&T players who waltzed their way on the Tennessee Titan football service previously, now wining and jamming with their T&T supporters.
So why, one may ask, should the players be concerned about their performers on Wednesday night? Their fans are happy enough to dance and drink the night away with them. Some fans even purchased drinks for players as a means of appreciation as if the players were not erratic enough on the field that night. Is it any wonder then, why we can lose a match and still be joyous rather than sullen and reflective as a people.

Some say the organisers of this past game/lime/dance saw an opportunity and exploited it. Others claim the organisers understood the T&T psyche better than our footballers, and gave the fans both entertainment and merriment at the same time. I was confronted by several justifiable irate fans, who expressed their disappointment. Some remarked that the T&T players in their eagerness to leave the playing service, forgot to salute the T&T supporters, who travelled from New York, Miami, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Canada and Trinidad and Tobago.

[Falcon]

Crabs in a barrel.......when Gayle and Sars went to meet friends in the stands after a big loss, people say dey nasty and was partying..........like footballers have gold-spoon in dey mouth?

Ah sure Stern was in dat.....Stern is sacky pardner- for real- birds of a feather and all that.

[Mr Majik]

We have tuh be the best people in the world. After we lose we doh mash up de place and riot, we does party.

http://guardian.co.tt/sports/football/2009/04/03/tt-party-after-defeat-fans-consider-boycott


What made this interesting was that it started at around 11 pm in downtown Nashville and finished at approximately 2.30 pm with several T&T players who waltzed their way on the Tennessee Titan football service previously, now wining and jamming with their T&T supporters.
So why, one may ask, should the players be concerned about their performers on Wednesday night? Their fans are happy enough to dance and drink the night away with them. Some fans even purchased drinks for players as a means of appreciation as if the players were not erratic enough on the field that night. Is it any wonder then, why we can lose a match and still be joyous rather than sullen and reflective as a people.

Some say the organisers of this past game/lime/dance saw an opportunity and exploited it. Others claim the organisers understood the T&T psyche better than our footballers, and gave the fans both entertainment and merriment at the same time. I was confronted by several justifiable irate fans, who expressed their disappointment. Some remarked that the T&T players in their eagerness to leave the playing service, forgot to salute the T&T supporters, who travelled from New York, Miami, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Canada and Trinidad and Tobago.
Could he have meant 'surface' and 'performance'? This Guardian real pissing me off now eh.
First Donovan pic for Altidore, now this?

[Falcon]

Haha, like he dictate that to some voice (non) recognition software?? Alice type dat. :lol:

[Honey]

Performance makes more sense, but even surface seems the wrong word. I guessing he referring to the pitch?

lol @ Falcon

I still can't get over yesterday's 'error', imagine if Obama was there and picked up the papers to see that. :?

[Falcon]

would he have broken protocol and visited the Guardian office?

[Honey]

would he have broken protocol and visited the Guardian office?
:lol: :lol:

[Ali]

doh be dissing Alice so :roll:

[Angie]

I watch dat game and ah never feel more shame yet. A gurls team or one made up of only Gays would have done better cuz they know how to handle balls.

[Falcon]

salt, why you hadda bring eeen scorpio and sacky in these discussions........ :roll:

[Angie]

Ah wanted to get their feedback on how the Warriors should have placed the balls.

[shotta]

Sven gets fired but Matas still have a job LMAO..

[Wayne]

Dey having ah meeting on 9 April between Latas,Matarana and Jack Warner.......de Summit is
17-19 April..........ah know dat we shudden mix sports wid politics.........but allyuh tink dat maybe
"Pappytricks" might get involved?........After all he doe mind ah trip tuh South Africa in 2010....he
could also put Zimbabwe on his agenda and check out Robert M.......ent?[attachment=0:1k41xe5y]Gweb_07-11-08_Front.jpg[/attachment:1k41xe5y]

[Beetle]

Why a meeting to decide if to keep Maturana ? He should be fired outright, just like Mexico Fired Sven; in fact, he should have been fired when TNT was booted out of the Caribbean cup in the first round. The that debacle of giving up a 2 goal lead against El Salvador.

Come, on fire the man already !!!!

[shotta]

sigh

[Mr Majik]

would he have broken protocol and visited the Guardian office?
But ent Patos set de precedent of leaders visiting the newspapers?

[shotta]

somebody make a joke nah...rel sours here

[Scorpio]

Did anybody see, towards the end of that USA/TNT game, A USA player passed the ball casualluy to a team-mate while a TNT player positioned midway between the 2 US players just walked by obliviously ?

[Wayne]

Awright,leh we done this talk.............and look forward tuh 2014,and ah go be 64...........by den de
Soca Warriors go be ah "super side"..........and Stern John go be de coach........ent?

[raider]

i went to nashville to watch the match, i never expected to see so many trinis, they deserve credit for coming from all over the states and beyond.

the usa outshustled t&t, the warriors played like they were nervous all night, and that 'receding hairline white fella' could teach the socaboys about hustle and intesity.