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MisterTibbs
02-28-2009, 03:31 PM
Did you know - Quran plagiarised the wrong theory of ancient Greek scientists who believed that Semen originates from the backbone?
Did you know - Quran (4:34) orders a man to beat his wife if she doesn't obey him?
Quran 4:34: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.


We are ex-Muslims. Some of us were born and raised in Islam and some of us had converted to Islam at some moment in our lives. We were taught never to question the truth of Islam and to believe in Allah and his messenger with blind faith. We were told that Allah would forgive all sins but the sin of disbelief (Quran 4:48 and 4:116). But we committed the ultimate sin of thinking and questioned the belief that was imposed on us and we came to realize that far from being a religion of truth, Islam is a hoax, it is hallucination of a sick mind and nothing but lies and deceits.

What we believe:

Some of us have embraced other religions but most of us have simply left Islam without believing in any other religion. We believe in humanity. We believe that humans do not need to follow a religion to be good. All we need to follow is the Golden Rule. All we have to do is to treat others the way we expect to be treated. This is the essence of all the goodness. All good religious teachings stem from this eternal principle. This is the ultimate guidance humanity need. This is the Golden Rule.

Why Mohammed was not a prophet:

One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives and their “right hand possessions” (Quran 33:50) He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way. Muhammad was a narcissist like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.

Why Quran is not from God:

Muhammad produced no miracles and when pressed he claimed that his miracle is the Quran. Yet a cursory look at the Quran reveals that this book is full of errors. Quran is replete with scientific heresies, historic blunders, mathematical mistakes, logical absurdities, grammatical errors and ethical fallacies. It is badly compiled and it contradicts itself. There is nothing intelligent in this book let alone miraculous. Muhammad challenged people to produce a “Surah like it” or find an error therein, yet Muslims would kill anyone who dares to criticize it. In such a climate of hypocrisy and violence truth is the first casualty.

What is our goal?

We are apostates of Islam. We denounce Islam as a false doctrine of hate and terror. However we are not against Muslims who are our own kin and relatives. We do not advocate hate and violence. Muslims are the main victims of Islam. Our goal is to educate them and let them see the truth. We are against Islam and not the Muslims. We strive to bring the Muslims into the fold of humanity. Eradicate Islam so our people can be liberated, so they can prosper and break away from the pillory of Islam. We would like to see Islamic countries dedicate more time to science and less time to Quran and Sharia. We would like to see them prosper and contribute to human civilization. We would like to see the draconian laws of Islam eliminated and people are treated humanely. We strive for freedom of beliefs, for equality of gender and for oneness of mankind.

Mankind’s biggest challenge:

Today the humanity is facing a great danger. Islamic fundamentalism is on the rise and the hatred is brewing in the minds of millions of Muslims. This hatred must be contained or there would be disastrous consequences. We believe that the education is the only answer. Muslim intellectuals must realize that Islam is a false doctrine and they must let the rest of Islamic world know the truth. Islam is a religion that thrives on the arrogant assumption that it is the most logical, the most scientific and the most perfect religion. While the fact is that it is the stupidest doctrine — the most backward and absurd belief. Once the truth about Islam becomes common knowledge, it will be weakened and the Islamic fanaticism will lose its fangs. Hundreds of billions of dollars are being expended to combat Islamic terrorism, yet no effort is made to contain the ideology behind this terrorism. It is our belief that Islamic terrorism will not be eliminated unless and until the ideology behind it is exposed and eradicated. This is what we intend to do.

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brag
02-28-2009, 04:38 PM
Try telling this to 1.5 billion strong and growing Muslim population. People take the best out of their scriptures and live by them. That is all that matters. Only a very small minority understand their scriptures in extremists ways.

MisterTibbs
02-28-2009, 08:47 PM
1.5 Billion you say? and NOT one of them say anything about this story..., strange..., you do know that this pretty woman's head was CUT OFF, while she was alive..., right?
where are the protesters of the muslim religion? where?

Beheading of Wife Poses Another Test for U.S. Muslims
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8595/beheadingwife.jpg
The crime was so brutal, shocking and rife with the worst possible stereotypes about their faith that some U.S. Muslims thought the initial reports were a hoax.

The harsh reality of what happened in an affluent suburb of Buffalo, New York — the beheading of 37-year-old Aasiya Hassan and arrest of her estranged husband in the killing — is another crucible for American Muslims.
Here was a couple that appeared to be the picture of assimilation and tolerance, co-founders of a television network that aspired to improve the image of Muslims in a post-Sept. 11 world.
Now, as Muzzammil "Mo" Hassan faces second-degree murder charges, those American Muslims who have spoken out are once again explaining that their faith abhors such horrible acts, and they are using the tragedy as a rallying cry against domestic violence.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498137,00.html


Try telling this to 1.5 billion strong and growing Muslim population. People take the best out of their scriptures and live by them. That is all that matters. Only a very small minority understand their scriptures in extremists ways.

brag
02-28-2009, 09:22 PM
Do we know how many Muslims in the US cut off the heads of they spouses around issues of domestic violence? Americans by the hundreds and even thousands are brought to justice for domestic violence every single day.

Because people do not speak out publicly against domestic violence, it doesn't mean that they are not concerned, do not condemn it and are not doing anything about it in their communities.

How many programs we have in T&T for identifying domestic violence, treating it and bringing perpetrators to justice. Where is the hue and cry about domestic violence in T&T, or is it just a problem that does not exist in our good old T&T?

The link below provides some interesting information about domestic violence in the US where there is significant vigilence about prosecuting it. Take a look.

http://www.aidv-usa.com/Statistics.htm

MisterTibbs
02-28-2009, 09:48 PM
You are running all around the subject and pointing this way and that way, what exactly are you asking?

then just so you flapping about domestic violence in order to sugar coat the issue..., Why?

and off you go about Trinidad programs.., what exactly that has to do with Muslims cutting off the heads of another human?
try another dance.

thanks.


Do we know how many Muslims in the US cut off the heads of they spouses around issues of domestic violence? Americans by the hundreds and even thousands are brought to justice for domestic violence every single day.

Because people do not speak out publicly against domestic violence, it doesn't mean that they are not concerned, do not condemn it and are not doing anything about it in their communities.

How many programs we have in T&T for identifying domestic violence, treating it and bringing perpetrators to justice. Where is the hue and cry about domestic violence in T&T, or is it just a problem that does not exist in our good old T&T?

The link below provides some interesting information about domestic violence in the US where there is significant vigilence about prosecuting it. Take a look.

http://www.aidv-usa.com/Statistics.htm

brag
02-28-2009, 10:04 PM
May be I should be asking if it is only a problem in Islam or if the concern needs be extended to domestic violence, child abuse, spousal abuse, elderly abuse, infanticide, etc., everywhere?

Didi
03-01-2009, 02:44 AM
I wonder why people feel the need to mention the religion of a criminal whenever he or she is muslim???
Now the above mentioned crime is terrible but I fail to see a religious motiv.

wandelaar
03-01-2009, 02:57 AM
I really am fed up of people stigmatising a whole groep of humans because of a few madmen! No, I am no moslim, never was, never will be.
If a small groep of Catholic priests are pedophile does that make ALL priests pedophiles?
If a small group of black people have an IQ under 100 does that imply that all black people are idiots?
If a small group of European men commit incest do all European men commit incest?
If some Russians are drunks, are all Russians drunks?
This post seems to be written by some one who thinks like a converted smoker, someone who is determined to convert all smokers to becoming not smoker!
I don't know who is worse a fundamentalist or a reformed fundamentalist :( :x