Overzealously Religious People

[Scorpio]

Why some of these overzealously religious people cant take the hint and recognise when they are going overboard trying to convert everybody they know, like they just don't know when to leave yuh alone bec yuh just not interested, and they have no damn respect for your own religious beliefs.

I bounce up somebody like that in work, and I tried to be open minded and give them a fair listen, but the person didn't reciprocate the openmindedness and would not accept my "thanks, but no thanks" - they just keep on coming back again and again with the same damn thing.

I feel this leading to a good cussing up from me, yes. :twisted:

[Solachica]

I know a few people like tht so when religion talks come up I walk out.
Also those people who go walking abt in sun or rain to do their witnessing. If my gate close and you calling for 5mins and no1 comes out can't you get the hint and leave.
Or if my gate happens to be open tht does not give you the right to walk into my yard and knock on my porch gate.

[vaio]

Sometimes they feel that their religion is the only one that God intended and they must save us from our sins.
I absolutely hate when they come and bang up yuh gate, shouting for the whole street to hear :x but i just ignore them nonetheless cause if ah come out...well ah might say something that is not very religious.. :evil: :twisted:

[kayt]

Religious beliefs can be fullfilling and comforting but there is the downside that some see themselves above others. It does not occur to them that anyone else could be happy and or be religious (different or not at the same church as the patronising believer). for those that constantly need to be active converts, my question is this. Are you truely happy if you feel the need to prove yourself again and again? I say live and let live. It's nice if you want to share but being respectful to realise that others may be fullfilled without your particular lifestyle, church/mosque/temple/synagogue. It's also easier on the ears if sharing is mutual.

[sheppy]

Well with jehovah's witnesses..i am told that the only way they get into heaven is by earning it....so really..dey jus banging on the gate to squeeze dey own tail into heaven...
Hindu's doh try to convert nobody...cuz u can't convert...so whaz even the point?
Muslims scare most people...(and i'll stop right there...before somebody jihad me) but statistics show it is the fastest growing religion in the 21st century....one must wonder what is fueling that (food for thought)
Catholics and Christians...well they are usually the most guilty of the overzealous offense...but in their defense...is almost like politics
I feel the same way...when people tryin to hand me flyers through my car window...or blaring some crap on a loudspeaker...or people that bash one political party to make the one they believe in look better....and try to convince everyone...'x' political party is the way to go...
is an invasion of my personal opinion and space...
This is caused when u believe strongly in something and you believe that it is an absolute, you feel burdened by it and need to share it with everyone...
however it doesn't mean that they can't learn to respect people's privacy and personal space...

[vaio]

I agree. nothing is wrong with being religious, just respect other ppl's beliefs as well

[serenity]

I agree. nothing is wrong with being religious, just respect other ppl's beliefs as well

How can u respect other's beliefs when your religion says that all else is the work of the devil? And your scriptures mandate u to show others the path to God and away from their false Gods?
Arent u being untrue to your religion by recognising other religions? Arent you rejecting God's mandate by standing by and watching your fellow man revel in the filth of paganism?

[vaio]

Very interesting comments. But i still say to them - leave me the *&^% alone since i am quite happy being a hindu devotee and a child of the same God

[sheppy]

How can u respect other's beliefs when your religion says that all else is the work of the devil? And your scriptures mandate u to show others the path to God and away from their false Gods?
Arent u being untrue to your religion by recognising other religions? Arent you rejecting God's mandate by standing by and watching your fellow man revel in the filth of paganism?

Well you can respect that people have a choice...even if you believe that it is the wrong choice...after all...That is the one right that we all have...regardless of our background or affiliations...
if you are so burdened by your responsibility to convert others, there are acceptable and reasonable ways to accomplish this.
A quiet conversation "Hi can I talk to you for a moment" not yelling " REPENT NOW SINNERS YOU ARE GOING TO HELL !!!!"
a printed leaflet/pamplet etc under the windscreen wiper or passing it out to the passerby ...not shoving it into somebody hands an tellin dem..hear read dis an save yuh soul eh!
an invitation to a service .... and a kind word

above all...it should be setting an example...people respect those that respect them...

[serenity]

Well you can respect that people have a choice...even if you believe that it is the wrong choice...after all...That is the one right that we all have...regardless of our background or affiliations...
if you are so burdened by your responsibility to convert others, there are acceptable and reasonable ways to accomplish this.
A quiet conversation "Hi can I talk to you for a moment" not yelling " REPENT NOW SINNERS YOU ARE GOING TO HELL !!!!"
a printed leaflet/pamplet etc under the windscreen wiper or passing it out to the passerby ...not shoving it into somebody hands an tellin dem..hear read dis an save yuh soul eh!
an invitation to a service .... and a kind word

above all...it should be setting an example...people respect those that respect them...[/quote]


Realistically, how many ppl, other than the sidewalk preacher in Woodford square, go screaming at u to repent now? The same Jehovah's Witnesses that everyone has a prob with are the ones who practice everything u just outlined in your post. I have never heard any of them yell. They are always conservative in their dress and approach. When say no to their watchtowers, do they run u down and announce your quick descent to hell? The ones I've encountered just smile and carry on with their duty to God.

[sheppy]

Well i was assuming that it wasn't only JW's that scorps was talkin about....but religion is one of those things that people can get pretty heated over...i have heard people screaming repent now... and seen those persistent little jw's congregate outside my gate with the black umbrella..with the poor children in tow and brief bag shoved under the arm....but they are usually pretty polite..i must give them that...

[serenity]

Think about it, if God came to u and told u to bring his teachings to the ppl and devote your life to service of Him, would a couple 'no thank you's' stop u from pressing for converts? Would u consider yourself overzealous, or true to God? I guess that's why they never stop.

Then there are those who dont try to convert u, but sit back and contemptuously roll their eyes at any mention of another religion/religious practices, feeling superior in their belief that the true God is on their side.

[Solachica]

:D I wud prefer they not come to my house and bang on my gate.

[sheppy]

Serenity...i am confused

who are u peeved about?? jw's ? catholics? christians? muslims? or all of the aforementioned?
not questionin yuh motives..just seems like there is an experience in there somewhere tha u are drawing against...das all...

[serenity]

:lol:
Not peeved. Most of my posts on this thread was just me playing devil's advocate and exploring how these converters might be thinking. The part about those who dont try to convert u but dont respect your religion either, comes from my experience with ppl who, in private conversations scoff at the beliefs of others.

[KFCSpicy]

No where in de bible mentions Religion there are tribes but no religions. Notice all the religions mentioned in the bible were the ones that God was having a problem with? I think all the father asked of us is to respect each other, be good and really the ten commandments eh religious is just common sense.

My sister quick to thump she bible in certain circumstances but then she does back flip and realll bad talk people...sigh! Jehovah Witnesses make me laugh I think most of these cults are scary as hell but that's just me.

Chica do like my father did some years ago when the Sunday Witnesses came calling. Every Sunday dem had de whole neighbourhood hiding one minute people outside playing football, listening to music laughing and talking to neighbours then all of a sudden yuh go see de Witnesses coming up the street and yuh go feel a draft and all man jack disappear. Even the pets.

One Sunday, my dad came out in he drawse and my dad is like 300 lbs eh so yuh know he looking naked cause he belly covering he waist and invite the two ladies and de man into the gallery to sit down. Then offer them a cold glass of something to drink and then started off talking to them normal normal. Then in between it all my dad said to them most seriously..."All yuh know God is an Alien right?" :o :shock: :? that was the reaction from the 3 ah dem. Umm up to now they nor any other Jehovah's Witness ever came back. :lol:

[kemist]

religion- :roll:

[bluenote492000]

I always wonder why people feel the need to whack people over the head with a bible. Sure I’m a Christian but I don’t feel the need to use a crowbar to force someone’s thoughts to my way of thinking. The one thing I got while reading the New Testament is Jesus was a pretty laid-back, cool kind of guy. Who want to listen to him just pull up a seat and listen and who don’t hey no scenes. Nothing to get high blood pressure about. Of course this kind of “free-thinking” gets me into trouble with my Christian brethren.

[AHCOME]

No where in de bible mentions Religion there are tribes but no religions. Notice all the religions mentioned in the bible were the ones that God was having a problem with? I think all the father asked of us is to respect each other, be good and really the ten commandments eh religious is just common sense.

My sister quick to thump she bible in certain circumstances but then she does back flip and realll bad talk people...sigh! Jehovah Witnesses make me laugh I think most of these cults are scary as hell but that's just me.

Chica do like my father did some years ago when the Sunday Witnesses came calling. Every Sunday dem had de whole neighbourhood hiding one minute people outside playing football, listening to music laughing and talking to neighbours then all of a sudden yuh go see de Witnesses coming up the street and yuh go feel a draft and all man jack disappear. Even the pets.

One Sunday, my dad came out in he drawse and my dad is like 300 lbs eh so yuh know he looking naked cause he belly covering he waist and invite the two ladies and de man into the gallery to sit down. Then offer them a cold glass of something to drink and then started off talking to them normal normal. Then in between it all my dad said to them most seriously..."All yuh know God is an Alien right?" :o :shock: :? that was the reaction from the 3 ah dem. Umm up to now they nor any other Jehovah's Witness ever came back. :lol:

So, are all religions other than Christianity a cult???

Why can't Christianity be the cult and all other religions be the truth???

[KFCSpicy]

ummm did i say that christianity was the one true religion? how else yuh blind behind want meh to describe and identify the other religion that pervades in the topic? by saying the following of christ? steupse all yuh knitpicking again and ah doh have de patience.

For the utterly silly on here let meh make mehself clearer....there is no such thing as religion mentioned in the bible...Christ taught a way of life. Religion is man made, cause men like to feel they belong to something that makes sense, men like create groups (and forums) and men just like to individualise everything.

all religion is man made. deal with it.

[brag]

When we see all religions also as cultural organizations for promoting the highest forms of human development with only a small emphasis on salvation, then we will experience true respect for all religions.

But again salvation means didfferent things for different religions. Some say it is moksha, the freedom from the cycle of birth and death, with merger in the oneness that God is, while others say it is a place in heaven in God's own house or a paradise where you can eat drink and be merry for ever. So who is most correct with the definition of salvation?

In the meantime, we will have to live in a world where some ask others to come to their religion because it is the only way to salvation. But note that work is in progess for a universal declaration by the UN that will stop the aggressive and deliberate promotion of religious proselytization, arguing that they are human rights violations.

[sapodila]

To think... why can't we all promote "spirituality" instead of "religion".....after all, we are praying to GOD Almighty .....so be it!

[dhal]

i remember in school (secondary and UWI) i had this friend...a very nice girl..we were very close used to lime, do work an all dat...she is a Christian (i dont know what kind and i tryin not ot say "small church"). she was a member of the Christian students society in both secondary school and in university and she always invited me to meetings an what not. and on occassion (in secondary school) i did attend. but then on one occassion, we were in the cafe and i had a meeting of my religious group and i invited her to come with me. d girl look at me an tell me point blank that she is a Christian and does not involve herself in chanting and what not...i was dumbfounded to say the least. i jus didnt know how to respond, but i tell you...i never attended another of her meetings even though she continued to invite *read harass* me evey week for the next 4 years for one simple reason.

if you cannot accept me and respect me an my religion, then i have not lost repect for your religion, but you as a person have diminished in my eyes. whether her religion requires her to present a tally at the end of it all or not does not concern me. it, to me is a matter of respect.

[AHCOME]

ummm did i say that christianity was the one true religion? how else yuh blind behind want meh to describe and identify the other religion that pervades in the topic? by saying the following of christ? steupse all yuh knitpicking again and ah doh have de patience.

For the utterly silly on here let meh make mehself clearer....there is no such thing as religion mentioned in the bible...Christ taught a way of life. Religion is man made, cause men like to feel they belong to something that makes sense, men like create groups (and forums) and men just like to individualise everything.

all religion is man made. deal with it.

Oh, so now ah knit picking and ah blind too? You did not say it was, but referring to other religions as "cults" is explicit enough!

Now u gone an turn Hindu, Christianity is a way of life :o Since when? :mrgreen: That's not what I heard! :P

[KFCSpicy]

ah go bite u Ahcome. I done seeing dat ahready...go brave brudda man go brave and see if i eh go show up by yuh door sunday morning 6am with meh watch tower. :twisted:

[dhal]

free...but yuh cud give sumtin if yuh want...maybe yuh will get breakfast....

[KFCSpicy]

:shock:

[lexbarker]

Sometimes I wonder. If one third of people is Christian, the other third Moslems and the last third is other organized religion and each one claims that theirs is the only way to heaven, when the time comes for sure two-thirds of people going to hell no matter how hard they pray and and how much goood deeds they do. If I was God, I would not make my existance so confusing.

[KFCSpicy]

:roll:

[brag]

When God created man He knew they would come looking for him, and he will be overwhealmed with their discovery of him. Thus He decided to hide, and make it a little difficult for them to find him. He searched everywhere for safe place, and then it occured to Him that the best place to hide would be in the heart of man as man himself.