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Sumana
10-21-2007, 05:17 PM
The very man, who is standing up on platforms berating Panday, insulting Panday and saying Panday's this and Panday's that. Read what he had to say not even a year ago, not even half a year ago, just a few months back..

hmm..the same anand who said Panday is virtually incorruptible? By virtue of the following article?

The Panday rollercoaster continues to provide the most amazing and exciting political ride in the PNM's amusement park.
His victory in the Court of Appeal is the climax of one of the most sinister political plots in the history of Caribbean politics.
Panday sharpened his political axe at a time when most thought it was rusty beyond repair, and exposed an incredible conspiracy involving the highest offices in the nation, designed to eradicate him from the politics and ensure that he is treated by historians as nothing more than a pathetic criminal.
Imagine the AG meeting with the Chief Magistrate, during the course of Panday's trial, to offer advice on the thorny issue of the latter's involvement in a lucrative real estate deal.
The AG indicates that he will conduct an investigation (pursuant to non-existent powers), but states that he will refrain from doing so until after Mc Nicolls delivers his ruling.
He then contacts a powerful PNM financier, who manages to negotiate a successful cancellation of the purchase of Mc Nicolls' property.
In the end, had the plan worked, it would have been as if this property transaction was never entered into, and the paper trail would have simply vanished into thin air.
Mc Nicolls makes the most extreme, unjust and oppressive ruling against Panday. The AG then informs him that he completed his investigation into the worrying property transaction and saw no need for any further action.
None of this would have come to light had Chief Justice Sharma simply kept his mouth shut and turned a blind eye to the looming injustice.
Instead of thinking and acting like a CJ, Sharma should have thought about the implications of him asking Mc Nicolls for a report about this matter.
He was already in trouble because of the allegation that he had interfered and intervened to prevent the unnecessary and unfair prosecution of Prof Vijay Narayansingh.
Sharma was about to make the same mistake twice; he was about to intervene in the prosecution of yet another high-profile Indian.
All of this because he failed to appreciate the obvious personal consequences, and foolishly chose to focus on the oath he took as CJ.
Everyone was bound to accuse him for standing up for two high-profile Indians. The racial factor was inescapable, as every one else were non-Indians: the Prime Minister, the AG, the DPP, the Commissioner of Police, and the Chief Magistrate.
Panday was not charged with corruption, and for those who know him he is virtually incorruptible.
His personality and traits have no leaning towards materialism and ostentation, and his primary concern and love is politics.
One point two million dollars could hardly be credited as a bribe paid to a PM who was in charge of a billion-dollar economy at a time when we were aggressively monetising our off-shore gas reserves by international competitive bidding.
If Panday received this money as a bribe, then why, pray tell, is Lawrence Duprey, who admitted to paying it, still free? He has certainly not been granted any immunity from prosecution.
The PNM had persecuted Panday for a technical offence that has been committed by dozens of public officials over the years with impunity.
The annual reports of the Integrity Commission are replete with examples of cases where people have failed to file their declarations.
In some cases, the matters were actually referred to the DPP, but alas, no one has ever prosecuted, except Panday. Panday has been singled out, targeted and prosecuted in an environment of state indifference to what was hitherto a largely-ignored technical breach of a law that was observed more in breach than practice.
There is nothing illegal or criminal about Duprey financing the education of Panday's children.
Indeed, Manning's children also received external financial assistance. Duprey is free to spend his money as he likes.
Whilst it is true that Panday retained his political heavyweight title because the fight was disqualified, a fair retrial for a ten-year-old offence would not be able to deny him his rightful place as a true champion who struggled for the betterment of his people and country.
No court will treat him the way Mc Nicolls did. He has avoided ignominy, defeat and eternal damnation, and will be remembered as the Indian who was such a political force that PNM was prepared to do any thing to get rid of him.
Most importantly, it would be written that, but for Sharma, they almost did.

BY ANAND RAMLOGAN
Reprinted From the Sunday Guardian 25/03/2007



out of the mouth of one of your own people, one of the people going up for your own seats, who you claim to have so much integrity in politics and who you claim to say is so great. What you have to say now? - You know what pwnt means? You've been pwnt.

cm103
10-21-2007, 05:24 PM
A year is plenty time for things to change and for Bas to show his true colours. How many people has he told that he no longer wants to lead the party or the PM position and now look where he is. One thing he has already gone back on and the other remains to be see if he ever gets a chance to become PM again.

A lawyer defending his/her client could say what in defense so their client regardless of their personal feelings as that is what their profession demands.

If you take anything what politicians say at face value from a year ago then you'll probably get a rude awakening most of the time. I wouldn't trust anything that came from your 'incorruptable' Panday five minutes ago though.

Sumana
10-21-2007, 05:27 PM
Sunday Guardian 25/03/2007
That is NOT a year.

TheLight
10-21-2007, 05:36 PM
A lawyer defending his/her client could say what in defense so their client regardless of their personal feelings as that is what their profession demands.

That article was written from Anand Ramlogan personal feelings and not as Panday defense attorney,

It just goes to show politics has a morality of its own

skl
10-21-2007, 06:10 PM
Sumana as an aspiring lawyer you should realize that anand has contradicted nothing he said in that article. just today he was on radio shakti agreeing that the charges against Panday were part of a smear campaign by the PNM.......his reasons for supporting COP are otherwise, such as his beleif that Dookeran would be a better PM than Panday, that Dookeran has a more appealing persona and would better able to appeal beyond the UNC base and also that persons with charges should not run for election.


you could disagree with anand on that, but he has not contradicted himself.

so umm no Anand has not been pwnt or pwnd.....n00b

Maccogirl
10-21-2007, 06:17 PM
SKL we all know that Ramlogan chose COP not because he feels they are the better party its simply because Anand sees his chances for upward mobility within that party easier. There is a web site on which Ramlogan is part of and for moths before any decision was announced by him there was a poll running and he was listed as a candidate in the who would you like to see as PM of this country. He won hands down.

So I do believe that his choice is solely one of political ambitions and nothing more, as it is Dookeran already is looking as if his seat is in trouble and the question is asked who would lead the COP even though it has not been answered as yet, anyway that is my opinion I really feel Anand is in this for his self and to see how far he will go in the political scheme of things.

just1fix
10-21-2007, 06:39 PM
Macco,
You are entitled to feel whatever you want and have any opinion you can weave out of thin air with no demonstrably facts or evidence,
The reality is that Anand Ramlogan has demonstrated a commitment to social justice and equality. He has none of the baggage of Ramesh and has already racked up several impressive wins against Manning's dictatorial regime. I take Anand for what he is: Someone who is trying to make a difference in Trinidad and Tobago.

If the best you can do is to claim he is ambitious then so be it. Or is it that you feel that only Panday should be ambitious and have dreams of leadership?

If he did not think COP had a chance he would not be with them. How could be want upward mobility if the party was going nowhere? It is clear that he thinks the COP has a shot at winning and he decided to throw his weight behind them.

Your post is therefore a mishmash of contradictory arguments.

skl
10-21-2007, 06:42 PM
SKL we all know that Ramlogan chose COP not because he feels they are the better party its simply because Anand sees his chances for upward mobility within that party easier.

like I said you can ascribe any motive to him BUT you cannot say he has contradicted himself from the article posted.

Maccogirl
10-21-2007, 08:35 PM
If you feel so SKl what can I say maybe he was talking good of Panday because he was being paid to represent him :roll:

skl
10-21-2007, 08:44 PM
and as I said before you, Sumana or Light still cannot show me where he has contradicted himself vis a vis that article. He said Panday's charges were a PNM plot and he still maintains that.

sam48
10-21-2007, 09:22 PM
In order to gain the upperhand against anyone he sees as a threat to him politically,he begins vicious unjustified personal attacks,insults,namecalling and lies and when he wants that same person to cooperate with him he apologises and sheds crocodile tears and begs.
This time he went too far and he will have to live with the consequences he created. Mr Politics has a morality of its own will not get away unscathed this time.
In the same way that no one gets up to speak at afuneral and says bad things about the deceased, it is the same for any defense lawyer addressing the court on behalf of his client. There is one difference,Anand did not say anything different now to what he said then. I also agree that it was political persecution of Panday by the PNM.

scrunter
10-21-2007, 09:51 PM
I heard Anand last week saying that Panday will always be a hero or something like that to him that is after it was announced that panday had lost his case...be that as it may ...Anand made his choice and he would have to live with it....however at the end of the day all ah we go have to face de consequences when de pnm slip through again because Dooks and he boyz cyar see de bigger picture dat is country first den self.....

Sumana
10-21-2007, 10:06 PM
I heard Anand last week saying that Panday will always be a hero or something like that to him that is after it was announced that panday had lost his case...be that as it may ...Anand made his choice and he would have to live with it....however at the end of the day all ah we go have to face de consequences when de pnm slip through again because Dooks and he boyz cyar see de bigger picture dat is country first den self.....



Oh gosh where the clapping emoticon

JPersad
10-21-2007, 10:19 PM
I heard Anand last week saying that Panday will always be a hero or something like that to him that is after it was announced that panday had lost his case...be that as it may ...Anand made his choice and he would have to live with it....however at the end of the day all ah we go have to face de consequences when de pnm slip through again because Dooks and he boyz cyar see de bigger picture dat is country first den self.....



Oh gosh where the clapping emoticon
You will see it on election night .Guaranteed !

vaio
10-22-2007, 07:55 AM
and it aint gonna be for the UNC...