Say What!!!!????

[King B]

After years of criticising URP and CEPEP this is what Bas has to offer? Is he mad? Keep in mind that CEPEP and URP workers are constntly being shopped bu thye MIn of Labour and Social development to the private sector so I have no idea what what Bas talking about.

http://www.newsday.co.tt/politics/0,66376.html


Panday: $ for the jobless
By Clint Chan Tack Saturday, October 20 2007

click on pic to zoom inINFILTRATION: A supporter of the Congress of the People (COP) stands all alone in the middle of a mass public meeting of the UNC Alliance in Sangre Gr...UNC political leader Basdeo Panday has promised that a UNC Alliance government will pay a stipend to unemployed persons until they can find a job.

However as he made this promise at a political meeting in Sangre Grande on Thursday night, Panday warned supporters: “Don’t clap me too quick because the sting is in the tail.

The lion has become a scorpion this evening!”

Panday, former attorney general Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj and UNC Alliance chairman Jack Warner continued the party’s political offensive against Congress of the People (COP) political leader Winston Dookeran, urging supporters not to split opposition votes.

Boasting that the UNC had reduced unemployment during its six years in government, Panday said: “I propose to my new government that when we get into office, we introduce something called an unemployment benefit.

If you have no work, you will get something to keep you going.”

However the cheers of the large crowd had barely died down when Panday explained that when people visit the Labour Ministry for their “weekly unemployment benefit,” they would be told of jobs available to them and sent to employers who need their services.

Panday explained that the latter information would be provided by a special labour bureau in the ministry that will ask business people about the kinds of workers they need and keep a computer database of that information.

He said if an employer states an unemployed person does not turn up for the job which the ministry allocated to him or her, that person would stop receiving the unemployment benefit.

Claiming Prime Minister Patrick Manning and Dookeran will be offering the electorate “a bellyful of promises” to win their support on November 5, Panday said: “You do not judge people by what they say they’re going to do. You judge them by their past.”

He claimed Prime Minister Patrick Manning “has the longest list of broken promises that any Prime Minister in TT has ever had” and Dookeran was no better. Maharaj said COP members were defecting daily to the UNC Alliance.


Does this sound like a good idea to anyone? The PNM accused of creating a dependency syndrome with make work programs and now Bas offering money for no work whatsoever? What stupidness is this?

[lou_uk]

That is Dole in other words and consistent with the land for landless (not to be confused with LFL of course). One of the COP candidates, David St Clair of Laventille West said on 1955fm Wednesday this week, he would scrap CEPEP and do the same. :P

[Dispatcher]

Does this sound like a good idea to anyone? The PNM accused of creating a dependency syndrome with make work programs and now Bas offering money for no work whatsoever? What stupidness is this?

We talking about developed nation status. Developed nations have had Social welfare going for around hundred years. Not just unemployment benefit but also housing and disablity benefits.

If they could manage such a system even during times of real hardship, war and depression then why can't a wealthy per capita nation like Trinidad provide such a system.

Benefit systems is proven to work in the long run. It encourages people to get work because that is the heart of the system, finding people meaningful work, ensuring they are trained for what they want to do and rewarded for getting themselves on the job ladder.

Its a system that also has a direct effect on the reduction of crime. If we want developed nation status then we need vision and use of wholistic systems to get there. Not band aids like CEPEP/URP/DEWD.

[skl]

but ent they does do this in them first world nations ? I thought we was sopposed to be heading the first world status too ?

[King B]

Allyuh doh feel like hypocrites? You are trying to say that a system where people get paid a stipend for actual work is worse than just handing people a cheque every month? Our welfare system is actually an improvement on the US system; they have been trying for years to implement a work component, but I guess since it is election time it is alright to condone anything as long as it doesn't make the PNM look good. Yet again a much reviled gov't program is given credibility by opposition forces. No hypocrisy dey, right? :roll:

[skl]

So why Patrick trying so hard to get we first world status then ?

[Dispatcher]

Allyuh doh feel like hypocrites? You are trying to say that a system where people get paid a stipend for actual work is worse than just handing people a cheque every month? Our welfare system is actually an improvement on the US system; they have been trying for years to implement a work component, but I guess since it is election time it is alright to condone anything as long as it doesn't make the PNM look good. Yet again a much reviled gov't program is given credibility by opposition forces. No hypocrisy dey, right? :roll:

KB, CEPEP has its place, but is it always fair to the entire population when there can be so much nepotism and political favouritism?

With a Social Security system every single person regardless of their affiliation to a particular group, benefits financially and directed into meaningful long term employment.

If the country can afford it then why not?

Some people want to bring 2020 ten years forward. Why complain?

[King B]

Are you joking?

There are people out there who cant get CEPEP, URP or city corporation jobs? Even in this period of almost full employment? No way.

[Dispatcher]

Well if people can easily get jobs then the Social security will not be such a burden on the nation. At least for those who can't they could at least get some change to buy some baby milk and some school books.

If they do then they won't need to resort to crime, there will be less demands on the police and judicial systems, less tension for the scared population and greater opportunities for future generations.

[Vampire_Princess]

what is the problem.

all those candidates who lose their deposit can go on welfare den....if UNC-A or COP win. :lol:

if PNM win, well, giddem some stones to paint or yam to plant. :shock: