Is there a way to chunkay without using oil?

[Amelia]

or butter or any fat at all?
Saps, whey yuh?

[sylvestter]

that sounding kinda impossible....

[halo]

or butter or any fat at all?
Saps, whey yuh?

no....why defeat the purpose...

[vaio]

I do it all the time, i either spray pam on the pot or just don't use anything, throw in my seasoning and then my veg or meat.... i don't think that it tastes any different. :P Ent saps?

[Amelia]

so how yuh does make ting like baigan choka and dhal without the oil?

[Babygirl]

Some people put a little bit of water in the pot and then sautee their seasonings in that. It doesn't taste the same as food chunkayed with oil, but it's healthier. Some people make bhaigan choka by just roasting the baighan, add salt pepper and seasonings and just mixing everything up. Of course it will taste different. Once I ran out of oil and made dal by just throwing everything in the pot...geera and everything...as with everything else, it tasted different. :mrgreen: Generally I use olive oil or canola oil as they are among the healthiest. I hear that latest research shows that coconut oil is also excellent. :)

[hassanvoyeau]

my moms says yes...it's called sada food. That's what hindu people do when they having prayers for the dead.

[mammadon]

what is chunkay?

[amzz]

so how yuh does make ting like baigan choka and dhal without the oil?

we never put oil in baigan choka and dhal

[Amelia]

so how yuh does make ting like baigan choka and dhal without the oil?

we never put oil in baigan choka and dhal

:o

Amzz, well ans the ques nuh!

[Babygirl]

what is chunkay?

It's a Hindi term for when food is being prepared and the oil is thrown in the pot and the seasonings are sauteed in it. Or like in the case of choka dishes or dal, the oil can be heated, sometimes with seasonings and thrown on top of the food afterwards. :)

[amzz]

so how yuh does make ting like baigan choka and dhal without the oil?

we never put oil in baigan choka and dhal

:o

Amzz, well ans the ques nuh!


what's there to answer? just leave the oil out..no chunkay

[Amelia]

So yuh just put the baigan with garlic and onion on some spray and call that george?

[amzz]

what spray?

I would make a couple small slits in the baigan, insert whole garlic cloves and pepper, then roast. Add salt after.. its as yummy as ever.

[Amelia]

what spray? PAM

I would make a couple small slits in the baigan, insert whole garlic cloves and pepper, then roast. Add salt after.. its as yummy as ever.

that sounding nice. thanks. and wat about de dhal?

[saltwater]

Some people put a little bit of water in the pot and then sautee their seasonings in that. It doesn't taste the same as food chunkayed with oil, but it's healthier. Some people make bhaigan choka by just roasting the baighan, add salt pepper and seasonings and just mixing everything up. Of course it will taste different. Once I ran out of oil and made dal by just throwing everything in the pot...geera and everything...as with everything else, it tasted different. :mrgreen: Generally I use olive oil or canola oil as they are among the healthiest. I hear that latest research shows that coconut oil is also excellent. :)

my nana use to do that. i see him fry ochro using water. the taste was the same.

[amzz]

what spray? PAM

I would make a couple small slits in the baigan, insert whole garlic cloves and pepper, then roast. Add salt after.. its as yummy as ever.

that sounding nice. thanks. and wat about de dhal?


when boiling the dhal just add all the ingredients u would normally add to the oil

certainly the chunkay dhal has a diff. flavour but the non chunkay tastes just a good

[mammadon]

what is chunkay?

It's a Hindi term for when food is being prepared and the oil is thrown in the pot and the seasonings are sauteed in it. Or like in the case of choka dishes or dal, the oil can be heated, sometimes with seasonings and thrown on top of the food afterwards. :)

ok. thanks. :)

[Falcon]

Why in the world would you want to leave out oil from your food?!
Surely youre not in that cohort that believes that 'oil is bad'. :roll:
Tell me is ah better reason.

[Amelia]

I was watching a documentry the other day and this Dr somebody had the only 'diet' that is proven to reverse heart cloggings and the like. I cant recall the name at the moment but he advocated that one should live a strict diet of no oil, no sugar, no zaboca, no nuts, no white flour or white rice. I was watching it and watching all these happy healthy old ppl and wondering if for the sake of my parents' health I should learn to cook without those things and take over the cooking entirely thereby forcing them to eat properly.

(yes, convoluted thought process - learn to cook>learn to cook healthy stuff> do all the cooking> force them to eat it>no point in waiting for one of them to get a heart attack before making the nec sacrifices> start looking for an apartment in case they get fed up and kick me out>but then again, dem does eat caraille and anything I cook cant taste worse than caraille) :lol:

But when I thought about the stuff I can cook, like the chokas, how the heck am I gonna do those without oil?

[mammadon]

Why in the world would you want to leave out oil from your food?!
Surely youre not in that cohort that believes that 'oil is bad'. :roll:
Tell me is ah better reason.

too much oil is bad. It's fat and obviously too much fat is bad for one's health. Though i guess it depends on the oil, since cooking with olive oil is healthier than cooking with vegetable oil or corn oil. And I don't eat roti that often because of the oil used to cook it.

I don't cook with much oil, and the food turns out OK enough. stewed chicken tastes good enough without oil as well as callalloo.

[Falcon]

too much oil is bad. It's fat and obviously too much fat is bad for one's health. Though i guess it depends on the oil, since cooking with olive oil is healthier than cooking with vegetable oil or corn oil. And I don't eat roti that often because of the oil used to cook it.

I don't cook with much oil, and the food turns out OK enough. stewed chicken tastes good enough without oil as well as callalloo.

This is exactly why sometimes it's just too difficult to try and explain the same thing a thousand times. I wish, oh how I wish people would just research a little more and get beyond these cliches based on so little sense about dis is dis therefore dat is dat...forgive me but I'm a bit under the weather so patience isnt my strong suit today

Every dark cloud has a silver lining.

Amelia, what quack will say zaboca not good. Obviously one who has such basic knowledge that he refuses to read modern discoveries and changes in dogma. Look, zaboca is very good for you, you can drink olive oil everyday and you wont get heart trouble. Come on, read further on these things. This is not the 1950s!!

Ok, I got a little more patience to say this once more. Contrast the mediterranean diet and the lifespan of these people to the ultra-health conscious freaks of the (far) west. Contrast the diet of the Japanese and their lifespan to the same far west freaks who know more about healthy eating that everybody else, or so they think. Lots of Olive oil in the Mediterranean, a fair share of meat too, but red wine and lots of fish and fresh vegetables and fruits. The Japanese, lots of white rice, and lots more fish. Obviously this doctor you listened to is out of touch and makes eating seem more like a penance that anything else. If you eat healthy, and in moderation, cutting out all the processed and semi processed foods and artificial drinks and flavourings, you can treat yourself occasionally to the proper pastry made with butter (btw, people who dont cook with real butter are freaks also) and the grand helping of fatty meats.

You probably will not take me on again because of my tone. Oh well...........

Mamadon, I dont live to eat food that 'comes out ok enough'.

[Amelia]

Well Falcs, u sick eh, so yuh credibility not at its highest. :lol:
Cholesterol trouble?
Just kidding.
Thanks again.
Very patient man u.

[Falcon]

Atkins peeps have lower cholesterol than their levels before the diets.

[mammadon]

too much oil is bad. It's fat and obviously too much fat is bad for one's health. Though i guess it depends on the oil, since cooking with olive oil is healthier than cooking with vegetable oil or corn oil. And I don't eat roti that often because of the oil used to cook it.

I don't cook with much oil, and the food turns out OK enough. stewed chicken tastes good enough without oil as well as callalloo.

This is exactly why sometimes it's just too difficult to try and explain the same thing a thousand times. I wish, oh how I wish people would just research a little more and get beyond these cliches based on so little sense about dis is dis therefore dat is dat...forgive me but I'm a bit under the weather so patience isnt my strong suit today

Every dark cloud has a silver lining.

Amelia, what quack will say zaboca not good. Obviously one who has such basic knowledge that he refuses to read modern discoveries and changes in dogma. Look, zaboca is very good for you, you can drink olive oil everyday and you wont get heart trouble. Come on, read further on these things. This is not the 1950s!!

Ok, I got a little more patience to say this once more. Contrast the mediterranean diet and the lifespan of these people to the ultra-health conscious freaks of the (far) west. Contrast the diet of the Japanese and their lifespan to the same far west freaks who know more about healthy eating that everybody else, or so they think. Lots of Olive oil in the Mediterranean, a fair share of meat too, but red wine and lots of fish and fresh vegetables and fruits. The Japanese, lots of white rice, and lots more fish. Obviously this doctor you listened to is out of touch and makes eating seem more like a penance that anything else. If you eat healthy, and in moderation, cutting out all the processed and semi processed foods and artificial drinks and flavourings, you can treat yourself occasionally to the proper pastry made with butter (btw, people who dont cook with real butter are freaks also) and the grand helping of fatty meats.

You probably will not take me on again because of my tone. Oh well...........

Mamadon, I dont live to eat food that 'comes out ok enough'.

But look at the northern Europeans who don't use that much olive oil traditionally. Especially places like Scotland. They use a lot of saturated fat in their food and get a lot of heart disease because of it. Eating deep fried battered sausages is not the same as pasta sauce cooked in olive oil, is it?

[Falcon]

:o :shock: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But aren't you making my point for me?!?!
I said the Mediterranean diet. Even in France, there is a stark contrast in the rate of heart disease between North and South. According to Mrs Palin, 'you betcha' there's the saturated fats argument. And I am glad we have now reached the point that may benefit hamelia and her avocadoes. Saturated vs unstaurated fats.

Bottom line: include more healthy foods in your diet and stop trying to micromanage the staples. It is absolutely alright to chunkay with oil, jeez, I even use vegetable oil because it has the ability to get hotter than olive, and so brings out the garlic/pepper flavours better. The PAM I'd stay far from that as it is just another modern, artificial, processed piece of I dont know what.

In Chinese food, you HAVE to use non-olive and non-canola else it wont taste right. Of course, if 'good enough' is sufficient for posters then by all means carry on.

Margarine is evil.

[sapodila]

:lol: we all like that smokey roasted flavour off garlic and onions fried in 'fat' ( oil/ ghee ) in our dhals and 'chokas', don't we. I used to do what Vaio describes, but the I said " Hey Saps .... it don't taste the same, ah lil olive oil or ah lil ghee won't clog my arteries " :lol: ( my Mom did NOT die from heart diseases :roll: )

[Babygirl]

I was watching a documentry the other day and this Dr somebody had the only 'diet' that is proven to reverse heart cloggings and the like. I cant recall the name at the moment but he advocated that one should live a strict diet of no oil, no sugar, no zaboca, no nuts, no white flour or white rice.

The doctor is correct about everything except avocados. Avocodos have the good type of cholesterol or HDL cholesterol. This can actually help reduce the bad type of cholesterol or LDL cholesterol.

[sapodila]

Do you believe EVERYTHING a Dr tells you? What about second opinions? ( I love avocados........they're good for you :D )

[Amelia]

Saps doh buff meh nuh :cry:
A doctor didnt tell meh, is a NatGeo documentary.
And yes, I does believe everyting dem say. :oops:

[vaio]

:o Amelia you believe everything they say! :o :o I find that so hard to believe :lol:

Saps, sometimes i wld use a little grape seed oil or extra virgin olive oil to chunkay too :P

[saltwater]

I never hear about grape seed oil. It good.

[sapodila]

I never hear about grape seed oil. It good.
It good for yuh skin.........I've read somewhere........... ( Fals go explain better yes :roll: ) :lol:

[sylvestter]

i actually saw some advertisement in the newspaper this week for a garlic flavoured bouillon cube and it read: "add three to your dhal get that real 'chunkay' taste"....

[kayt]

I only need a tablespoon to chunkay. I could cook a big pot full greens (bhaji) or meat or dahl that would feed up to six if no one goes back for second helpings. The taste is good. I'd use sunflower or soya or corn oil not vegetable oil.

[Babygirl]

what is chunkay?

It's a Hindi term for when food is being prepared and the oil is thrown in the pot and the seasonings are sauteed in it. Or like in the case of choka dishes or dal, the oil can be heated, sometimes with seasonings and thrown on top of the food afterwards. :)

ok. thanks. :)

Don't mention it. :D

[lexbarker]

I was watching a documentry the other day and this Dr somebody had the only 'diet' that is proven to reverse heart cloggings and the like. I cant recall the name at the moment but he advocated that one should live a strict diet of no oil, no sugar, no zaboca, no nuts, no white flour or white rice. I was watching it and watching all these happy healthy old ppl and wondering if for the sake of my parents' health I should learn to cook without those things and take over the cooking entirely thereby forcing them to eat properly.

(yes, convoluted thought process - learn to cook>learn to cook healthy stuff> do all the cooking> force them to eat it>no point in waiting for one of them to get a heart attack before making the nec sacrifices> start looking for an apartment in case they get fed up and kick me out>but then again, dem does eat caraille and anything I cook cant taste worse than caraille) :lol:

But when I thought about the stuff I can cook, like the chokas, how the heck am I gonna do those without oil?

Don't get carried away with all the health craze. Your body needs a certain level of chlosterol to function properly. Take it away and you might be cheating on your health.

http://health.howstuffworks.com/how-the ... sterol.htm (http://health.howstuffworks.com/how-the-body-uses-cholesterol.htm)

As a vital part of the body's chemistry, cholesterol is used to produce the steroid hormones required for normal development and functioning. These include the sex hormones estrogen and progesterone in women and testosterone in men. These hormones trigger development of the physical traits characteristic of adult women and men; they also play a role in reproduction.

Other steroid hormones produced from cholesterol include cortisol, which is involved in regulating blood-sugar levels and defending the body against infection, and aldosterone, which is important for retaining salt and water in the body. The body can even use cholesterol to make a significant amount of vitamin D, the vitamin responsible for strong bones and teeth, when the skin is exposed to sunlight...........

[Babygirl]

Don't get carried away with all the health craze. Your body needs a certain level of chlosterol to function properly. Take it away and you might be cheating on your health.

http://health.howstuffworks.com/how-the ... sterol.htm (http://health.howstuffworks.com/how-the-body-uses-cholesterol.htm)

As a vital part of the body's chemistry, cholesterol is used to produce the steroid hormones required for normal development and functioning. These include the sex hormones estrogen and progesterone in women and testosterone in men. These hormones trigger development of the physical traits characteristic of adult women and men; they also play a role in reproduction.

Other steroid hormones produced from cholesterol include cortisol, which is involved in regulating blood-sugar levels and defending the body against infection, and aldosterone, which is important for retaining salt and water in the body. The body can even use cholesterol to make a significant amount of vitamin D, the vitamin responsible for strong bones and teeth, when the skin is exposed to sunlight...........

Our bodies already produce adequate cholesterol but if through our diets our bad or LDL cholesterol levels increase, we can eat foods with the good type of cholesterol or the HDL cholesterol to help reduce the bad type (LDL) cholesterol. Foods such as avocado and olive oil have the good types of cholesterol or HDL cholesterol. :)