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Wicked
10-17-2007, 06:27 PM
Blessed be to everyone here on this site
Peace be unto all of you
This thread is not for discussion.....
It is for reading and learning and understanding what Islam is all about....
Please feel free to read and please keep an open mind...
Thank you
The Holy Quran
Chapter 1
In the name of God,
Most Gracious, Most Merciful
1:1 In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
1:2 Praise be to God, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the world;
1:3 Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
1:4 Master of the Day of Judgment.
1:5 Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
1:6 Show us the straight way,
1:7 The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.
Wicked
10-18-2007, 08:01 AM
The Five Pillars of Islam
They are the framework of the Muslim life: faith, prayer, concern for the needy, self-purification, and the pilgrimage to Makkah for those who are able.
1) FAITH
There is no god worthy of worship except God and Muhammad is His messenger. This declaration of faith is called the Shahada, a simple formula which all the faithful pronounce. In Arabic, the first part is la ilaha illa Llah - 'there is no god except God'; ilaha (god) can refer to anything which we may be tempted to put in place of God - wealth, power, and the like. Then comes illa Llah: 'except God', the source of all Creation. The second part of the Shahada is Muhammadun rasulu'Llah: 'Muhammad is the messenger of God.' A message of guidance has come through a man like ourselves.
2) PRAYER ( Prayer Performance )
Salat is the name for the obligatory prayers which are performed five times a day, and are a direct link between the worshipper and God. There is no hierarchical authority in Islam, and no priests, so the prayers are led by a learned person who knows the Quran, chosen by the congregation. These five prayers contain verses from the Quran, and are said in Arabic, the language of the Revelation, but personal supplication can be offered in one's own language.
Prayers are said at dawn, noon, mid-afternoon, sunset and nightfall, and thus determine the rhythm of the entire day. Although it is preferable to worship together in a mosque, a Muslim may pray almost anywhere, such as in fields, offices, factories and universities. Visitors to the Muslim world are struck by the centrality of prayers in daily life.
A translation of the Call to Prayer is:
God is most great. God is most great.
God is most great. God is most great.
I testify that there is no god except God.
I testify that there is no god except God.
I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of God.
I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of God.
Come to prayer! Come to prayer!
Come to success (in this life and the Hereafter)!
Come to success!
God is most great. God is most great.
There is no god except God.
3) THE 'ZAKAT'
One of the most important principles of Islam is that all things belong to God, and that wealth is therefore held by human beings in trust. The word zakat means both 'purification' and 'growth'. Our possessions are purified by setting aside a proportion for those in need, and, like the pruning of plants, this cutting back balances and encourages new growth.
Each Muslim calculates his or her own zakat individually. For most purposes this involves the payment each year of two and a half percent of one's capital.
A pious person may also give as much as he or she pleases as sadaqa, and does so preferably in secret. Although this word can be translated as 'voluntary charity' it has a wider meaning. The Prophet said 'even meeting your brother with a cheerful face is charity.'
The Prophet said: 'Charity is a necessity for every Muslim. ' He was asked: 'What if a person has nothing?' The Prophet replied: 'He should work with his own hands for his benefit and then give something out of such earnings in charity.' The Companions asked: 'What if he is not able to work?' The Prophet said: 'He should help poor and needy persons.' The Companions further asked 'What if he cannot do even that?' The Prophet said 'He should urge others to do good.' The Companions said 'What if he lacks that also?' The Prophet said 'He should check himself from doing evil. That is also charity.'
4) THE FAST
Every year in the month of Ramadan, all Muslims fast from first light until sundown, abstaining from food, drink, and sexual relations. Those who are sick, elderly, or on a journey, and women who are pregnant or nursing are permitted to break the fast and make up an equal number of days later in the year. If they are physically unable to do this, they must feed a needy person for every day missed. Children begin to fast (and to observe the prayer) from puberty, although many start earlier.
Although the fast is most beneficial to the health, it is regarded principally as a method of self purification. By cutting oneself off from worldly comforts, even for a short time, a fasting person gains true sympathy with those who go hungry as well as growth in one's spiritual life.
5) PILGRIMAGE (HAJJ)
The annual pilgrimage to Makkah - the Hajj - is an obligation only for those who are physically and financially able to perform it. Nevertheless, about two million people go to Makkah each year from every corner of the globe providing a unique opportunity for those of different nations to meet one another. Although Makkah is always filled with visitors, the annual Hajj begins in the twelfth month of the Islamic year (which is lunar, not solar, so that Hajj and Ramadan fall sometimes in summer, sometimes in winter). Pilgrims wear special clothes: simple garments which strip away distinctions of class and culture, so that all stand equal before God.
The rites of the Hajj, which are of Abrahamic origin, include circling the Ka'ba seven times, and going seven times between the mountains of Safa and Marwa as did Hagar during her search for water. Then the pilgrims stand together on the wide plain of Arafa and join in prayers for God's forgiveness, in what is often thought of as a preview of the Last Judgment.
In previous centuries the Hajj was an arduous undertaking. Today, however, Saudi Arabia provides millions of people with water, modern transport, and the most up-to-date health facilities.
Somebody007
11-06-2007, 06:38 PM
We need a follow up from you.
I wonder what it means in the context of the forum rules that this thread is not for discussion? I thought only locked threads stopped discussion. Is the advertisement of one religion now encouraged on the forum? If it indeed serves only as an advertisement of a religion, we need to understand the forum rules about advertisement. I do remember omnipresent and omniscient?
sapodila
11-07-2007, 08:53 AM
I remembered contirbuting to this thread.... with a run in by another forumite and the posts has been removed. I noticed that before, but did not say anything. Oh .....and I was not informed that the posts was remove as THEY discussed in another thread that YOU questioned and THEY explained to you. I am just enjoying the previlage........
For the sake of discussion, I still question someone propagating Islam and call them self "wicked" and embraces Halloween artifacts...........especially the skull carved on the pumpkin. How that said person propagating Islam could shut up the entire forum by saying " This thread is not open for discussion.......". My knowledge of Islam and the teachings of the Qu'ran, allows the followers to open communication.............then again there is the taliban.............
Falcon
11-07-2007, 10:54 AM
I don't really understand the reason for any confusion about the 'rules'.
Threads in this section are for public contribution, unlike Hall of Shame and User Journals.
sapodila
11-07-2007, 03:53 PM
Thank you Falcon.
Now "Wicked".... I dislike addressing you, a brother in islam as such. Now do continue your contributions on such a great religion, so that all will understand and hopefully become tolerant.....that's your intent... rite?!...oh and while you're at it, might I suggest a picture of...let's say the Kabba? :)
Somebody007
11-07-2007, 04:20 PM
I think what Wicked was trying to do with this thread was only to put verses from the Holy Qu'ran and it was for all us to read only and ask questions only pertinent to Islam.
sapodila
11-07-2007, 11:36 PM
I think what Wicked was trying to do with this thread was only to put verses from the Holy Qu'ran and it was for all us to read only and ask questions only pertinent to Islam.
Ask questions??????????? the man say said "
This thread is not for discussion......... see Somebody wha da meen?
sapodila
11-07-2007, 11:46 PM
Anyways! with that aside...........
Brother W....... I have always questioned the visa requirements to fulfill the fifth pilar of Islam - Hajj. My view is that a muslim seeking to make the trip to Makkah Makarma, should not be required to obtain a visitors visa to complete "The Hajj". I have also head the words of a "well to do" man saying that he could financially afford the trip, but for as long as there is a visa requirement, he will die first. How do you feel about this?
littleone
11-08-2007, 04:14 PM
sap, wicked is not a bro.
and we don't have the user jounal board anymore so wicked cyah even put it there if she wanted to. and you bringing up issues about visa doh have nuttin to do with the woman religion. but whats the big deal about the visa thing anyway?
PS. Wicked, i am very sorry for spamming yuh thread eh. but i have been reading and find it very enlightening.
Since this thread is not for discussion about Islam, I wonder if seeking clarity and more information meets the criteria the author of the thread had in mind when he/she said it is not for discussion. In this respect, I would like to hear more about apostasy in Islam. I wonder how many converts to Islam learned about apostasy before joining Islam. I read a lot about it, but don't quite understand the part about killing the apostate.
sapodila
11-12-2007, 10:38 PM
Apostasy in Islam
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Apostasy in Islam (Arabic: ??????, irtid?d or ridda) is commonly defined as the rejection of Islam in word or deed by a person who has been a Muslim.
All five major schools of Islamic jurisprudence agree that a sane male apostate must be executed.[1] A female apostate may be put to death, according to some schools, or imprisoned, according to others. The Islamic laws governing apostasy are derived from the traditions (ahadith). According to Wael Hallaq nothing of the apostasy law are derived from the Qur'an, [2] although the jurist Al-Shafi'i interpreted the Quranic verse [Qur'an 2:217] as providing the main evidence for apostasy being a capital crime in Islam.[3]
Some contemporary Shi'a jurists, scholars, writers and Islamic sects have argued or issued fatwas that either the changing of religion is not punishable or is only punishable under restricted circumstances, but these minority opinions have not found broad acceptance among Islamic scholars.[4][5][6][7][8]
dreamy
12-09-2007, 07:31 AM
Brother W....... I have always questioned the visa requirements to fulfill the fifth pilar of Islam - Hajj. My view is that a muslim seeking to make the trip to Makkah Makarma, should not be required to obtain a visitors visa to complete "The Hajj". I have also head the words of a "well to do" man saying that he could financially afford the trip, but for as long as there is a visa requirement, he will die first. How do you feel about this?
I think the visa requirements are clearly not Islam-made but Saudi made.
i think it's part of ensuring it's only muslims coming to Makkah during Hajj-season (actually...are only Muslims allowed in Makkah? I don't know). It's not a visitor visa tho...it's a HAJJ visa.
I don't know how big a problem in Trinidad it is about whether you're muslim or not but I watched bits of that documentary (Keith David narrated?) that IBN keeps showing and showing and showing...and the muslim woman (white, convert, non-muslim name) had to prove she was muslim to get a visa. I think she needed certification from her masjid and imam or something.
But the pain is that you have to go to Caracas...I think? Or somebody has to go to caracas for any visas to Saudi.
Also, visas are for limiting the number of people there.
There are country-specific quotas.
I mean, it's one country. How many people can they hold before they bust?
So many people are coming they need some controls/checks-and-balances.
(like...how we needed for...cricket world cup...haha..did we need it?)
There are already so many accidents/tragedies/mishaps that happen because so many people are there. If there was free movement (no visa) can you imagine how much worse it would be? They have to cater for the people coming...it's like a dinner, you want an estimate to cater for.
ANd with regards to the "well-to-do" man...well...there are many things people may not agree with Saudi about but in the end if you can afford it and are physically able you still have to make Hajj. He should stop quibbling about the man-made requirements and go do it. I think saying visa or die is just an excuse to not spend the money...or some excuse for something.
sapodila
12-11-2007, 02:56 PM
Dreamy wrote: "I think saying visa or die is just an excuse to not spend the money...or some excuse for something."
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Maybe.. maybe not! who knows. Thanks for the clarification ...Hajj visa / visitors visa.............why would one fron T&T have to go to Caracas? to obtain a Hajj visa to Makkah Makarma? I'm confused! I'm sure someone can enlighten us on this......if they choose too :)
dreamy
12-13-2007, 12:10 AM
Why go to Caracas? Because that's where the consulate/embassy is!
During Hajj season tho, I think the hajj group leader or a representative can go for the whole group. Same for umrah (like pilgrimage out of Hajj season) visas.
But for student visas and whatever...the person has to go himself
sammy78
02-07-2008, 09:09 AM
Since this thread is not for discussion about Islam, I wonder if seeking clarity and more information meets the criteria the author of the thread had in mind when he/she said it is not for discussion. In this respect, I would like to hear more about apostasy in Islam. I wonder how many converts to Islam learned about apostasy before joining Islam. I read a lot about it, but don't quite understand the part about killing the apostate.
Peace be on to u my brothers and sisters in humanity.
I am new to this site, and i was just browsing thorugh when i came upon this thread.
I am no scholar but i can try to answer some of your questions with the best of my ability. I hope they are genuine questions and not attacks disguised as questions as some people tend to do. I try to avoid such discussions.
Apostacy in islam is similar to the crime of treason in any other country. If a person leaves Islam and thens goes about fighting Islam wheather it be is physical war, or go about preaching and writing making blasphemous claims about Allah and prophet Muhammad or other tennets of islam, then the execution law may apply to him. I am not sure who decides that the person should be executed ,but i almost certain that it would have to go through an Islamic court where a decision would be made as with any other islamic punishment. A man cyah ups and say how he gone kill a man cause he leave islam - it doh work so. One of the most important tennets in islam is that there is no compulsion in religion.
(If a person leaves islam and goes about his buisness then thats no problem but their are some who use islam to become famous by bad mouthing the religion. In fact a lot of the things they talk about (bad experiences) can be tied back to their local culture and not Islam. Sometimes they live in an environment where they are not exposed to islam but rather some mixed up way of life, yet they would blame islam instead of their traditions.)
With regards to the Visa for hajj. The brother/sister ? hit the nail on its head with his answer. ( yes only muslims are allowed in Makkah)
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