LEADERSHIP THE KEY FOR PNM/UNC VICTORY

[latany]

The majority of votes cast for individual candidates in each constituency will determine the respective representation of the people for that particular area of the general electorate. The government will be formed by the party which wins the most seats. It will not be by the majority of votes cast for the opposition. Manning leadersip in Paliament, as well as his role as political leader of the PNM; and also the social impact reflected in the choice of representation to reflect national unity, has given the multicultural electorate a genuine opportunity for solidarity. His leadership performance has given him and his party an early convincing lead which is gaining momentum. The unseen decided votes cannot be counted in rallies and public forums, polls, and a handfull of disappointed party members.
Meanwhile the UNC struggles with its own in fighting at all gender and seniority levels. The major problem however is the support for ethnic devide in the rank and file of the opposition party and their supporters at this particular moment.

[Parsifal]

Quite true.

The PNM still remains the only credible political entity in this country.

The UNC will be tainted by the stigma of corruption and nepotism for a long time to come. Also, because of how they have had to appeal to their base for this election cycle (at least), they are targeting only one section of the national community for their voting support. They have morphed into the DLP of old practically overnight.

The COP, while getting support nationally, has not made a dent in the PNM base but clearly in the UNC base as was expected.

Patrick Manning has truly gotten the jump on them as he has put up fresh faces who, for the most part, are very active in the social life of their communities. Neil Parsanlal (old CIC boy!), Kennedy Swarathsingh etc are community activists who have put in years of work on the ground not as political animals but as sincere social workers.

The other candidates are either political has beens (like Selby Wilson and Carson Charles) or racially polarising (like Hulsie and Devant Maharaj).

[Maccogirl]

I keep hearing of this dent that the COP has made in the UNC base can some one show me where and in what area has the COP made enough of a dent to turn the UNCA supporters away in so much as that these disenchanted voters will give the COP candidate the seat??

Over and over it is posted on here about COP is eating away at UNCA base but no one is prepared to show where and the data for it, the COP crowds even though crowds don't win votes is shrinking in attendance to meeting in the UNC heartland, while the UNCA is picking up momentum and that does have weather you want to believe it some influence on how people vote.

When you look at the two scenarios the PNM base in holding its in tack, the UNCA is transforming their base back into a recognizable force to be dealt with exactly where is the COP in all this, who they beating?? Ok they have national appeal but with all this appeal they need votes to win seats and enough votes to beat both a PNM and UNCA candidate, something I am not seeing no matter how I look at it, I may be wrong but the COP people keep saying its there well if it is tell them to stop hiding and come out because time running out on them and a lot of people starting to say its not there :roll:

[Maccogirl]

I waiting any data on this as to the inroads and winnable sets from the UNCA that the COP has as yet or the projection of this???

[JPersad]

I keep hearing of this dent that the COP has made in the UNC base can some one show me where and in what area has the COP made enough of a dent to turn the UNCA supporters away in so much as that these disenchanted voters will give the COP candidate the seat??

Over and over it is posted on here about COP is eating away at UNCA base but no one is prepared to show where and the data for it, the COP crowds even though crowds don't win votes is shrinking in attendance to meeting in the UNC heartland, while the UNCA is picking up momentum and that does have weather you want to believe it some influence on how people vote.

When you look at the two scenarios the PNM base in holding its in tack, the UNCA is transforming their base back into a recognizable force to be dealt with exactly where is the COP in all this, who they beating?? Ok they have national appeal but with all this appeal they need votes to win seats and enough votes to beat both a PNM and UNCA candidate, something I am not seeing no matter how I look at it, I may be wrong but the COP people keep saying its there well if it is tell them to stop hiding and come out because time running out on them and a lot of people starting to say its not there :roll:
Mac ,
The truth will be known on Election night .

[latany]

Five hundred new members in St. Augustine does not translate into a win for COP. The invisible decided votes for the PNM is difficult to count. In the same way the turn out at rallies, public forum, and polls can be deceiving. COP can certainly be a force to deal with in another five years. Warner is not likely to attract more voters to the UNC than Kamlah would have done as leader of the UNC.

[Maccogirl]

Jp that is it??? You let me down there man I thought you would of had more info than that

[latany]

The only thing that the political leader of the PNM and the political leader of the opposition has in common is that they both have major internal leadership issues. The main identifiable similarity is that they both display dictatorial tendencies in their opposing leadership styles.

[JPersad]

The key to a PNM victory is to have Basdeo Panday as the leader of another political party .
Leadership in the PNM is secondary , no matter what others may say or want to believe .

[TheLight]

The key to a PNM victory is to have Basdeo Panday as the leader of another political party .
Leadership in the PNM is secondary , no matter what others may say or want to believe .

You fail again, The key to a PNM victory is plain and simple COP
And try as you may you can’t duck and run from that.

[JPersad]

The key to a PNM victory is to have Basdeo Panday as the leader of another political party .
Leadership in the PNM is secondary , no matter what others may say or want to believe .

You fail again, The key to a PNM victory is plain and simple COP
And try as you may you can’t duck and run from that.
Denial does not make the unpleasant truth go away .

[snowbird]

The key to a PNM victory is to have Basdeo Panday as the leader of another political party .
Leadership in the PNM is secondary , no matter what others may say or want to believe .

You fail again, The key to a PNM victory is plain and simple COP
And try as you may you can’t duck and run from that.

You've got to give up that old excuse Light, it didn't wash when first presented, it is certainly not washing now.
The reason why the PNM will continue to win elections is because they are
...... an effective, efficient, professional, disciplined Political Machine.......
The reason why the UNC under Bas will continue to loose elections is because...
They are a rag tag band of silly, very unprofessional people, who continue to put their personal fights above what is best for the party or nation.

Patos or whom ever leads the PNM doesn't have to do a darm thing in order to win an election as long as the UNC under Bas is in existance.

[Angie]

SNOW, WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR EFFORT ON LIGHT?

He will never understand, believe or accept that the PNM's greatest asset is having the UNC with Basdeo Panday as its Leader. Hell, not even Panday himself will accept, believe or understand it, and why should when he has people like Light supporting him.

It is easier to blame Ramesh, blame Trevor, blame Ralph, blame Dookeran, blame Robbie, blame Lucky, blame Jack, blame the PNM. What is so sad and pathetic, the person to blame is the very one who has their undying support. So leave Light in his stupor, trying to convince him is like trying to stop the sun from rising.

[shield_2006]

SNOW, WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR EFFORT ON LIGHT?

He will never understand, believe or accept that the PNM's greatest asset is having the UNC with Basdeo Panday as its Leader. Hell, not even Panday himself will accept, believe or understand it, and why should when he has people like Light supporting him.

It is easier to blame Ramesh, blame Trevor, blame Ralph, blame Dookeran, blame Robbie, blame Lucky, blame Jack, blame the PNM. What is so sad and pathetic, the person to blame is the very one who has their undying support. So leave Light in his stupor, trying to convince him is like trying to stop the sun from rising.

According to mih pardenr-DT- BOOM BOOM-nail on d head right dey!

[Slider]

The reason for the UNC decline is because they fail to recognize the problem - they put their heads like an ostrich in the sand that is why they can't see what going on..

[latany]

The electorate has to establish parameters in their selective process to show political maturity in their decision to choose an elected government in the next general election. COP is the only recognized party that does not seem to have major concerns with leadership and internal unity of its political organization at this point in time.

[mammadon]

When PNM and UNC can count on 250,000 or so votes in every election, why dey care about leadership?

People may not like Manning at the moment, but PNM would still get a large turnout because of race. Panday may be seen as a liability in the UNC, but I'm sure plenty of UNC supporters would still vote UNC because Panday's "we boy".

In my opinion, Panday perhaps is becoming a liability, but largely because of his age. If an election were held tomorrow, I doubt this would dent the UNC's votes and seats totals with Panday as its leader.

[tanga]

mammadon you got it right, of course when the two major political party representing the two largest ethnic group end up in a tie, there is no doubt the race card is trump. Could COP be the party to change this if non-racial trinis make a choice based on issues.

[Sirius]

Allyuh dredging up threads from 2007 now?

COP has likely already seen the largest support base it will ever get unless of course the UNC collapses. What the folk in the UNC need to realize is that while Panday sits at the helm, many of those supporters who went to the COP will not return to the UNC. Without those supporters, the UNC will not see the government benches.

The PNM is an institution, the UNC is a one-man show and the COP is a hatchling. Go figure.

[Slider]

And the ironical thing is that the COP behaves more mature than the UNC.

[tanga]

They are locking horns in he UNC again as formidable leaders step up to the plate who will emerge as leader? will the rank and file of he UNC supprt the meeting of the Ganges and he Nle (ramjack) or will they support only the ganges in (panday) ?

[Mr Majik]

And the ironical thing is that the COP behaves more mature than the UNC.
Even more ironic...COP has a platform that would win mass appeal if people could look at them objectively, without their tribalism and racialism

I am curious to see who is going to be Bas' new BFF, after he back stabbed Dooks, Kamla, and now RamJack...

[shield_2006]

UNC lost the key-they have no leadership. Let's be honest-tribalism aside-this is a rag tag bunch of indecent opportunists if I ever saw one. Enough.

By the way I find the Light kinda dim to-day boy!

[Slider]

I think Bas run out of rope now ... is only the noose left and the UNC tip-toeing on the stool.

Sometimes when a horse breaks its legs it's best to shoot it and put it out of the misery. Best Hazel call the Local Government Elections now and let COP eat up the UNC as the new opposition.

Shield,

Light shame. When you feeling so shame you just want the earth to open and swallow you up. Light now know how John Dyson was feeling lastweek Friday.

[latany]

UNC supporters and members may be ready for a leadership change, but the present executive that blindly support Panday will not take that chance because they know they will not survive as parliamentarians or opposition.

[Slider]

I am still trying to remember any meaningful contribution that Hamza Rafeeq ever made - and that is the Chief Whip of the party. Oh gosh man UNC - is this an attempt for people to feel sorry for your party.

PNM with their 3 seats in 1986 looking more formidable than a UNC 15 (or 12) seat party in 2009.