THIS IS WHY I BLAME DOOKERAN

[peanut]

COP: Unity only with Kamla
By Sean Douglas Saturday, October 13 2007

CONGRESS of the People (COP) leader Winston Dookeran said a united Opposition could have been formed if the UNC Alliance had been led by UNC deputy leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar. Dookeran was addressing a lively COP meeting at the Hi Lo Car-park at the Croisee, San Juan on Thursday night.

http://www.newsday.co.tt/politics/0,65920.html

What an ass .. Is he now trying to justify his reasons for splitting the votes to give Manning and the PNM a special majority? HOW UTTERLY STUPID AND WHAT A WUSS!

The fact is Dookeran was so confident the COP will sweep away the UNC and the PNM at the Polls he didn't stop and think for a moment he could have been wrong.

If he was serious, why didn't he lay down the terms and conditions for a unity? Why did he not say anything except for NO when all the calls were being made from the UNC and on the grounds to unite? Why did he stay mum when the Political pundits and the polls were showing only a united opposition could unseat the PNM?

Is he now telling the UNC to make Kamla the leader and we will unite?

NOMINATION DAY IS MONDAY Mr.DOOKERAN .... SPEAK UP OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE!

[cm103]

Peanut, many a time did they discuss the terms in which the unity could be achieved. I would know, I have family members in middle to high positions in both parties. Every time the UNC tried to broker an alliance the COP countered that it had to be without Panday and RLM. I think some people were willing to deal with Jack. It was out and in the open, the UNC didn't want to pay that price so they trying to play the victim.

In fact Panday said that Dookeran has no say in the leader of the UNC so that could not work. He's right in that regard but the terms were out there and the ball in their court. In blame Panday though, he stood between what he knew would be a landslide win and stayed there. What he could have done was negotiate his position for after the elections are done, if he stood aside now, but he didn't want that.

If Dooks joined up and Bas mash up the alliance right after the win then how much of allyuh would be here bawling that he should have known how Panday is or is how much times he do that and Dooks still take basket?

The polls do not support an opposition alliance, last results I remember were 35% for and 50% against. Panday created the COP support base by his antics and Manning added some to it by making some unpopular decisions that went against some grassroot supporters. I believe even you Peanut was a PNM supporter, supported the COP till you saw the UNC rally on Sunday last then switched sides again. Things are fluid now and the PNM and UNC have this election to lose, but at least the people have an alternate choice now.

Peanut, didn't you start a thread asking both leaders to put aside their personal differences and come together for the betterment of the country? Their differences is what kept the alliance from happening, it is not a new development. Bas cannot be trusted, especially since he is being lead by the nose by the only financier the UNC has left.

[peanut]

Peanut, many a time did they discuss the terms in which the unity could be achieved.

THE COP HAS CONSISTENTLY MAINTAINED THERE WILL BE NO UNITY AND THEY RESISTED EVERY CALL FOR IT

I would know, I have family members in middle to high positions in both parties. Every time the UNC tried to broker an alliance the COP countered that it had to be without Panday and RLM.

NEVER ONCE DID DOOKERAN EVER STATE QUITE CATEGORICALLY WITH KAMLA AS THE LEADER THERE WILL BE UNITY! IF ANYTHING THE COP HAS SAID WHAT THEY DON'T WANT, BUT NEVER ONCE DID THEY SAY WHAT THEY WANT FOR UNITY

I think some people were willing to deal with Jack. It was out and in the open, the UNC didn't want to pay that price so they trying to play the victim.

REALITY CHECK .... AT THE END OF DAY ON NOVEMBER 5TH 2007, THE PEOPLE OF T&T WILL BE THE VICTIMS ... NOT THE UNC nor THE COP

In fact Panday said that Dookeran has no say in the leader of the UNC.

AS LONG AS THE COP STAYED ON THE OUTSIDE AND RESISTING THE CALL FOR UNITY, PANDAY WAS RIGHT IN NOT ALLOWING HIM TO HAVE A SAY, HOWEVER HAD DOOKERAN STATED HIS INTENTIONS TO UNITE AND NAMED HIS CONDITIONS, THINGS MAY HAVE VERY WELL CHANGED

so that could not work. He's right in that regard but the terms were out there and the ball in their court. In blame Panday though, he stood between what he knew would be a landslide win and stayed there. What he could have done was negotiate his position after the elections are done but he didn't want that.

If Dooks joined up and Bas mash up the alliance right after the win then how much of allyuh would be here bawling that he should have known how Panday is or is how much times he do that and Dooks still take basket?

Peanut, didn't you start a thread asking both leaders to put aside their personal differences and come together for the betterment of the country? Their differences is what kept the alliance from happening,

ASK DOOKERAN THAT QUESTION and ASK HIM WHY HE DIDN'T NOT LAY DOWN SPECIFIC TERMS AND CONDITIONS

it is not a new development. Bas cannot be trusted, especially since he is being lead by the nose by the only financier the UNC has left.

IS THIS SUCH A BAD THING? IMAGINE THE COP WILL HAVE NOW TO DEAL WITH THE PARASITIC OLIGARCHY

[cm103]

Specific terms were laid down between boh parties. Do you think with the amount of meetings they had on unity and calls made it was just "Come over nah. Let we get Patos out." Specifics such as party roles, seat assignments, financing and leadership roles to be specific.

It was serious talk about what needed to be done to get both parties together. Just because the papers didn't publish the terms and the UNC playing victim then we must believe the no negotiations went on as to what was required?

The COP had their expectations and the UNC had theirs. The price to pay for unity was RLM and Panday not involved, which was a price the UNC wouldn't take into consideration.

Peanut, before you talk about Dookeran not stating his terms you should seek out some people who attended the COP cottage meetings before elections were called and ask them what his answers were to your questions. Oh, and while you're at it, ask them how much times he tried to come to some sort of agreement with the UNC before elections, at the request of his supporters and who in the UNC shot it down.

[peanut]

Specific terms were laid down between boh parties. Do you think with the amount of meetings they had on unity and calls made it was just "Come over nah. Let we get Patos out." Specifics such as party roles, seat assignments, financing and leadership roles to be specific.

It was serious talk about what needed to be done to get both parties together. Just because the papers didn't publish the terms and the UNC playing victim then we must believe the no negotiations went on as to what was required?

The COP had their expectations and the UNC had theirs. The price to pay for unity was RLM and Panday not involved, which was a price the UNC wouldn't take into consideration.

Peanut, before you talk about Dookeran not stating his terms you should seek out some people who attended the COP cottage meetings before elections were called and ask them what his answers were to your questions. Oh, and while you're at it, ask them how much times he tried to come to some sort of agreement with the UNC before elections, at the request of his supporters and who in the UNC shot it down.

I haven't laughed this hard in a long time, what meetings are you talking about .. the ones he failed to show up for? O yeah the Media told us about those. I heard all the calls for the Dookeran to stay clear of the UNC by COP supporters. I heard the sentiments by COP supporters [I was one of those] saying NO UNITY!

I heard ROY AUGUSTUS and GERRY YETMING ... I HEARD THE LOT OF THEM and you know what? they are no different to the man you all are villifying and condemning.

[skl]

I thought the UNCA was strong enough to win by itself ? ent all that crowd show up for Panday ?

[peanut]

I thought the UNCA was strong enough to win by itself ? ent all that crowd show up for Panday ?

ent the COP strong enough to win by themselves

AND PLEASE NOTE ... I WAS CALLING FOR AN ACCOMODATION, NOT UNITY so as to have a bigger opposition to bring about checks and balances in Parliament.

Time has proven that 2 or 3 or 4 man rat could never live in one hole, and I am too experienced in T&T politics not to know that is exactly what T&T needs since it is obvious the PNM will win this election.

[cm103]

Peanut, you aren't making any point here. How are they no different from the men I am vilifying? Panday has 'reinvented' himself how many times as leader of the UNC with the same tyrant attitude?

If you were a COP supporter before the elections were called then you would have known that cottage meetings were held instead of mass rallys to build support. In these meetings Dookeran himself spoke about the current situation on the country and his situation in the UNC which lead to him leaving. Some immediate family members have attended these cottage meetings in our area and have told me in no uncertain terms that he was asked to see if he could talk to Panday about reconciling to fight the PNM. Panday refused it.

Another little fact you may not have been aware of. When the various interested parties decided to try and broker the peace between Dookeran and Panday earlier on this year they flew in an influential religious leader to mediate (I know this guy and had a conversation about this about a month ago). He came in, stayed at Crowne Plaza but that night Panday put up his supporters to boo Dookeran while he was making his speech to the UNC faithful. It never played out because of the low level that Panday was willing to go to.

You want Manning out but this is the man you want to vote for? There isn't any difference between Panday and Manning at this point. The UNC glory days are done. I enjoyed them, voted for Panday previously but he has reduced himself to a power whore, willing to do anything and everything to get back in the driver's seat.

Maybe he thinks that becoming PM will help him win his corruption case?

[peanut]

Peanut, you aren't making any point here. How are they no different from the men I am vilifying? Panday has 'reinvented' himself how many times as leader of the UNC with the same tyrant attitude?

If you were a COP supporter before the elections were called then you would have known that cottage meetings were held instead of mass rallys to build support.

THE SUPPORT DOOKERAN WAS LOOKING FOR WAS SUPPORT FOR A "NEW POLITICAL VEHICLE" WITH HIM AS THE POLITICAL LEADER

In these meetings Dookeran himself spoke about the current situation on the country and his situation in the UNC which lead to him leaving. Some immediate family members have attended these cottage meetings in our area and have told me in no uncertain terms that he was asked to see if he could talk to Panday about reconciling to fight the PNM. Panday refused it.

MY 2 NIECES WORK OUT OF THE COP OFFICE IN TUNAPUNA and I AM AWARE OF WHAT IS BEING BANDIED ABOUT. THE FACT IS, DOOKERAN WAS TRYING TO RE-CREATE 1986 AND TO RE-INVENT THE WHEELS OF THE NAR, and SADLY THE FRONT RUNNERS OF 1986 BELIEVED THEY CAN DO IT.

Another little fact you may not have been aware of. When the various interested parties decided to try and broker the peace between Dookeran and Panday earlier on this year they flew in an influential religious leader to mediate (I know this guy and had a conversation about this about a month ago). He came in, stayed at Crowne Plaza but that night Panday put up his supporters to boo Dookeran while he was making his speech to the UNC faithful. It never played out because of the low level that Panday was willing to go to.

THE ABOVE I MENTIONED IS SOMETHING PANDAY WAS SAYING ALL ALONG AND I DOUBTED IT, BUT WHEN I SAW THE LIST OF CANDIDATES, SOME OF WHOM WERE CANDIDATES IN THE 1986 NAR, REALITY HIT HOME and I KNEW THAT UNITY WAS IMPOSSIBLE.

You want Manning out but this is the man you want to vote for?

HAVE YOU HEARD ME SAY I WANT MANNING OUT? OR HAVE YOU HEARD ME CALL FOR AN ACCOMMODATION TO GET A BIGGER OPPOSITION THAT WILL RESTRICT THE MANNING'S GOV'T?

There isn't any difference between Panday and Manning at this point. The UNC glory days are done. I enjoyed them, voted for Panday previously but he has reduced himself to a power whore, willing to do anything and everything to get back in the driver's seat.

AND DOOKERAN IS NOT A POLITICAL WHORE? HIS PIMPS YETMING AND AUGUSTUS MIGHT DISAGREE WITH YOU.

Maybe he thinks that becoming PM will help him win his corruption case?

[skl]

I thought the UNCA was strong enough to win by itself ? ent all that crowd show up for Panday ?

ent the COP strong enough to win by themselves


but ent YOU say

THE COP HAS CONSISTENTLY MAINTAINED THERE WILL BE NO UNITY AND THEY RESISTED EVERY CALL FOR IT

so what your point ? COP going it alone. let to UNCA go it alone too nah.

[cm103]

Your arguments really do not hold any water here. Do you think Dookeran would bandy himself for power as much as Panday did and tell the people at the same time that he wasn't actually doing what we were seeing him do?

The UNC picked up how many former NAR members in their 1991 and 1995 elections? Wasn't Club 88 formed because Panday fell out with Robbie? The fact is that Panday is trying to re-create 1995 but without most of his engine room which have had enough of his lust for power and have moved on. You think Dookeran coaxed all those people to see how Panday really is and join him or they saw for themselves and left?

Fighting for opposition is like campaigning for second place. Second place if first loser.

Dookeran wouldn't be Panday's political whore and debase himself to follow blindly a leader who obviously was in it for himself. He left and did his own thing. That shows character in my eyes. He could have stayed, taken it and became Panday's puppet with a big position in the UNC but would prob end up like Kamla. The man has his dignity and left. If you want to make the comparison, the same way Panday left the NAR and formed Club 88 then the UNC.

[peanut]

Your arguments really do not hold any water here. Do you think Dookeran would bandy himself for power as much as Panday did and tell the people at the same time that he wasn't actually doing what we were seeing him do?

The UNC picked up how many former NAR members in their 1991 and 1995 elections? Wasn't Club 88 formed because Panday fell out with Robbie? The fact is that Panday is trying to re-create 1995 but without most of his engine room which have had enough of his lust for power and have moved on. You think Dookeran coaxed all those people to see how Panday really is and join him or they saw for themselves and left?

Fighting for opposition is like campaigning for second place. Second place if first loser.

THE FIGHT HERE SHOULD NOT BE FOR FIRST OR SECOND PLACE, IT SHOULD BE ABOUT PROTECTING THE DEMOCRACY OF T&T

Dookeran wouldn't be Panday's political whore and debase himself to follow blindly a leader who obviously was in it for himself. He left and did his own thing. That shows character in my eyes.

AND NOW THAT HE HAS DONE HIS OWN THING, WILL T&T BE BETTER OFF WHEN MANNING GET HIS SPECIAL MAJORITY?

He could have stayed, taken it and became Panday's puppet with a big position in the UNC but would prob end up like Kamla. The man has his dignity and left. If you want to make the comparison, the same way Panday left the NAR and formed Club 88 then the UNC.

CM, I DO NOT SPECULATE WHEN IT COMES TO THE PERSONALITIES OF POLITICIANS ... EXPERIENCE HAVE TAUGHT ME IT'S THE SAME CLOTH .. SAME YARDSTICK!

[vaio]

Your arguments really do not hold any water here. Do you think Dookeran would bandy himself for power as much as Panday did and tell the people at the same time that he wasn't actually doing what we were seeing him do?

The UNC picked up how many former NAR members in their 1991 and 1995 elections? Wasn't Club 88 formed because Panday fell out with Robbie? The fact is that Panday is trying to re-create 1995 but without most of his engine room which have had enough of his lust for power and have moved on. You think Dookeran coaxed all those people to see how Panday really is and join him or they saw for themselves and left?

Fighting for opposition is like campaigning for second place. Second place if first loser.

Dookeran wouldn't be Panday's political whore and debase himself to follow blindly a leader who obviously was in it for himself. He left and did his own thing. That shows character in my eyes. He could have stayed, taken it and became Panday's puppet with a big position in the UNC but would prob end up like Kamla. The man has his dignity and left. If you want to make the comparison, the same way Panday left the NAR and formed Club 88 then the UNC.

What really upsets unc supporters is that they cannot win without the COP and they are sooo mad... they not really thinking straight. So why blame Dooks, why not put the blame on Bas for treatin the man so badly but Dooks held on for as long.. now that the COP has gathered quite a bit of support in its short life and gotten support from sections that the UNC never had... they desperate for unity/alliance/accommodation or whatever you want to call it...and if it does not happen you're gonna all kinda excuses from them as to why they lost...yea, blame the COP or corpse as UNC refers to them... but that same corpse is what they need to win

[peanut]

WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT?

THE COP CANNOT WIN WITHOUT THE UNC, however THE CALL FOR UNITY/ACCOMMODATION BY THE UNC WAS HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR BY THE MASSES, SO TOO WAS THE REJECTION BY THE COP.

[Sirius]

Funny, in media reports of the weekend after elections called, Dookeran said he had been speaking to Kamla, and that some sort of accomodation was not out of the question. Further to this, the incessant claims of no unity and the UNC destroying unity only came out after Jack and Bas wound up in charge of the alliance.

Don't make the COP out to be the bad guys here. The country knows that with Panday's track record an accommodation is possible only with Panday stepping aside. The polls even say this much. The lack of unity lies squarely at the feet of one Basdeo Panday and we should be very careful not to fall for the silver fox's slick talking.

[vaio]

Funny, in media reports of the weekend after elections called, Dookeran said he had been speaking to Kamla, and that some sort of accomodation was not out of the question. Further to this, the incessant claims of no unity and the UNC destroying unity only came out after Jack and Bas wound up in charge of the alliance.

Don't make the COP out to be the bad guys here. The country knows that with Panday's track record an accommodation is possible only with Panday stepping aside. The polls even say this much. The lack of unity lies squarely at the feet of one Basdeo Panday and we should be very careful not to fall for the silver fox's slick talking.

It makes no sense say dat to a unc supporter...COP is the only one to blame for them.. no one else

[Maccogirl]

I think the time for looking to see who are the bad guys or not is running out, the question is the COP cannot win this election even though they still saying they will, at the moment their chances of even getting into opposition is looking slim so where are they going and exactly what is it at this point that they want to achieve.

I don't think the public wants to see how well a group of people can come together and form a party, we have seen that done before, so what is the COP aim now Opposition?? If so which opposition members do they feel they unseating without the possibility of making PNM win that seat in a three party race?

What is the COP aim now that is the question??

[Sirius]

WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT?

THE COP CANNOT WIN WITHOUT THE UNC, however THE CALL FOR UNITY/ACCOMMODATION BY THE UNC WAS HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR BY THE MASSES, SO TOO WAS THE REJECTION BY THE COP.

Peanut, ease up on the caps...no need to engage in "online shouting". The last set of polls conducted indicated that most people do NOT want an opposition alliance.


Would you support an "opposition parties" alliance?
Yes: 35%
No: 50%
Don't Know: 15%

This is the feeling on the ground as well as far as I am concerned. The vast majority of people I have spoken to are supporting COP. Those that supported UNC dropped their support after the JackBas team became apparent. They stuck it out with UNC in the hopes of a Kamla leadership and a COP accomodation as a result. The UNC has shot themselves in the foot, and no matter how many "grassroot" supporters they manage to get at their meetings, there is no denying that they are the ones who have stalled accommodation, and they are the ones whose support base is dwindling.


What is the COP aim now that is the question??

To be quite honest Macco, I think I and most other COP supporters are aware that the COP has a severe uphill battle on its hands. However, the COP stands for something the UNCA and PNM do not and that is why the COP has our support. If we win, great. If we lose, well at least we did it standing for what we believed to be the right thing. Despite his old track record, in this day and age I do not think Panday will do any better for this country than Manning and any situation leading up to a Panday Prime Minister is something I will not support. It is true; the COP's best chance might be to win a few odd seats and make a last minute accomodation with the UNC 1995 style to form a majority...but the good news for me as a COP supporter is it would be on the COP's terms.

I have no beef against the UNC. I have an issue with Mr. Panday taking the reins of leadership because to me, he has shown more dictatorship tendencies within his own party than Mr. Manning has shown in government. To me, placing Panday at the helm of this country is potentially more detrimental than Manning.

[kanta]

Both UNC and COP showed reluctance or at best lukewarm interest in the idea of Unity which become the cry of the grassroots since that fateful UNC meeting at Mid Centre Mall at which Dookeran announced his Movement for "new politics". Possibly political greed and reluctance to share power played a part. It was not just self confidence and a belief that they could actually win on their own but their was the over sized egos and residual bile and bitterness which soured relations between key players.
Although the ball seem to be in Dookeran's court at this time I think that Jack and Panday must also take responsibilty for allowing this situation to reach this point.
Would Panday now show full blown patriotism and love of country and support a declaration of Kamla as the leader if that is what it would take to save this country from the threat of Dictatorship? Or would Panday ignore this opportunity in the interest of the pursuit of his personal need for fullfilment and gratification.
Winston has been misguided and is under considerable pressure from his financiers and advisors, thus he has less manouvering room than Panday. Panday can now do the right thing and yet make his greatest contribution to Trinidad and Tobago, which in terms of it potential could exceed his total contributions of the past since 1965. All he has to do is to pick up the phone and ask Jack to call a Leadership council Meeting today or not later than tomorrow and NAME KAMLA AS LEADER. Averting the institutionalization and constitutionalisation of Autocracy and Dictatorship and
averting the carpeting of our food producing lands with industrial plants will exceed not only Panday's life time political acomplishments but that of all the other leaders Eric Williams included.
Clearly the key is in Panday's hands at this moment. This key will not only rescue us as a nation but will also give Panday eligibility and access to the Halls where Statesmen walk

[Scorpio]

I now think that the UNC and COP need to put their differences aside and come up with accomdation, just to make sure the PNM get the cut arse they deserve on Nov 5.

I still maintain that Panday should never be PM of TNT ever again, and I know he might very well mash up any alliance or accomdation if he don't get his way, but at this late stage, they could work that out after the elections, even if it mean we have to go back to the polls.

That is how badly I want to see PNM kicked out.

[cm103]

I now think that the UNC and COP need to put their differences aside and come up with accomdation, just to make sure the PNM get the cut arse they deserve on Nov 5.

I still maintain that Panday should never be PM of TNT ever again, and I know he might very well mash up any alliance or accomdation if he don't get his way, but at this late stage, they could work that out after the elections, even if it mean we have to go back to the polls.

That is how badly I want to see PNM kicked out.

Oh believe me I'm of the same mind but not for replacing one dictator with another.

I believe one of the COP officials said already that if they hold the deciding seats then it would most likely go back to the polls.

[Maccogirl]

Is COP in any position where they can demand that the only way they will form some kind of accommodation is if Panday steps aside and put Kamla? Why Kamla why not anyone else in the UNCA, and what about the UNCA supporters do they not have a right to say who they would like their leader to be?

Does not the UNCA have a membership so the COP is decided for the UNCA membership now, can the COP go and tell the PNM party that they will join with them once Manning goes, or can Panday say he will join with the COP once Dooks goes and let Kamla lead the COP.

I never hear such bs in my life, a set of people without even a dam seat trying to dictate the pace to a party that has been tested over and over in the election all yuh get real nah, who in they right mind would settle for conditions like that, I for one certainly don't' care to be associated with the COP as a supporter of the UNCA, adn am positive am not the only supporter that feel that way, the COP say they going it alone well I say carry on time for coming together pass now, thanks but no thanks. :roll:

[cm103]

MG, then tell your party stop harassing the COP for unity then. If you of that mind then your best recourse would be to tell the UNC administrators.

Kamla was in line to be the leader of the party and that is why she was the key to unity. She ent as hard headed, or so we thought, as Bas and Jack.

If the COP wasn't in a position to demand some sort of terms then why is the UNC pursuing the subject? Did the UNC try to merge with Team Unity or the MUP or any other non-Panday splitered parties in previous elections? This is the first time they lost some of their user base to a splinter party that actually have a chance and Panday knows that. How fitting that his career and last shot might end up being at the hands of a party that his ignorant and power hungry attitude created? Panday is not looking at the country but rather his own aspirations. No matter if he tell people he doesn't want the PM position again, its plain to see he does.

Before you run on about damn this and damn that, think of this. The UNC has been trying to get with the COP for a while now but is only Jack in the meetings and not Bas. You really expect the COP to just join up with no terms? Panday say elections and politics is war well even an alliance, truce and surrender have it's terms

[cm103]

MG let me also ask you this. Take into account the history of UNC alliances, would you have faith in a Panday led administration that attained power by forming an alliance, lasting for the full 4 years?

[Sirius]

MG. If the UNC wants unity with the COP, and the UNC is the one begging for the unity, then guess what? They have to listen to the COP's demands. Otherwise, stop begging for the unity.

[peanut]

MG. If the UNC wants unity with the COP, and the UNC is the one begging for the unity, then guess what? They have to listen to the COP's demands. Otherwise, stop begging for the unity.

DUH!!! This is why I am blaming the COP, the ball is in their court and instead of bouncing it their way they choose to kick it around. steups!

[Dispatcher]

MG let me also ask you this. Take into account the history of UNC alliances, would you have faith in a Panday led administration that attained power by forming an alliance, lasting for the full 4 years?


There has only been one UNC alliance that was 1995, with the NAR. And that lasted it's full term, 5 years.

The other alliance that Panday was involved in then, ULF with ONR to form the NAR in 1986 broke up form many reasons one being Robinson's sidelining of the the ULF component.

If you want to bring up 2001, then that has nothing to do with alliances.

So when people are naive enough to run with ole talk they only show ignorance of the facts.

[cm103]

MG. If the UNC wants unity with the COP, and the UNC is the one begging for the unity, then guess what? They have to listen to the COP's demands. Otherwise, stop begging for the unity.

DUH!!! This is why I am blaming the COP, the ball is in their court and instead of bouncing it their way they choose to kick it around. steups!

This argument only going in circles now. The COP done say what it takes for unity. The UNC didn't say what their terms are to the public yet. Why the COP to blame if they have their cards on the table for what it takes and the UNC not playing theirs?

If the COP demands unreasonable then what did the UNC counter with?

Dispatcher. Panday did not need those alliances once he got Griffith and Lasse to cross the floor. My use of alliances also refers to the parties that Panday rode into power then discarded.

Also do you really think this Panday is the same one that won back in 1995?

[TheLight]

allyuh leave the corpse alone nah let it rot in peace

[kanta]

Why name Kamla instead of someone else? Because she has ability credebility and momentum. She is a known quantity with a track record. There is no time for a convention or process for gaining the consent of the UNC rank and file thus the Leadership council among themselves should act on behalf, and in the interest of the general membership. This is an emergency and such special circumstances warrant initiatives from those in authority.
This is no time for a long shopping list of demands and conditions . It is not what you can extract or receive but what you can volunteer and what you can give in order to prevent the entrenchment of a Dictator. You can not put conditions and limits on what you will do for saving your country.
Time to break the Glass ceiling and let a woman hold the reins. Mr Panday, would you stand in the way of your daughter or let others stand in her way because she is a woman?