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sheppy
05-05-2008, 12:57 PM
Boy raped, woman charged :shock: :shock:

-Carolyn Kissoon


Monday, May 5th 2008
Source - Trinidad Express http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161318648


A 21-year-old woman is due to appear in court this morning charged with two counts of sexual assault against a 17-year-old schoolboy.

The unemployed woman of Teak Avenue, Claxton Bay was arrested at the weekend.

The teenager, who also lives in Claxton Bay, said he was sleeping over at a friend's house when he awoke to find the woman on top of him.

The incidents allegedly occurred between March 20 and April 4. Police said the teenager told his mother what happened and a report was made at the Couva Police Station.

The boy was medically examined by a doctor who confirmed that he had been assaulted, police said.

Babygirl
05-05-2008, 01:03 PM
There are men and boys who are raped by women but do not say anything out of fear that society will make fun of them...and knowing our society...it will happen, unfortunately. :(

We are living in different times now...good people are scare...be they men or women. :?

serenity
05-05-2008, 01:06 PM
Hmmm...seems a little strange...
I wonder how they confirmed assault...

strombo23
05-05-2008, 01:11 PM
i;d like to know that myself. brusing?

Babygirl
05-05-2008, 01:12 PM
Hmmm...seems a little strange...
I wonder how they confirmed assault...

True...how can they tell in a boy's case if he's sexually assaulted? :?

Maybe when she forced herself on him she left marks or scratches on him which proved that he was trying to fight back. :?:

serenity
05-05-2008, 01:17 PM
Did she use a condom?
And if a guy is being raped, wouldnt he...deflate?

Babygirl
05-05-2008, 01:20 PM
Did she use a condom?
And if a guy is being raped, wouldnt he...deflate?

No...I think just the physical touch would keep him erect...or so I've heard.

serenity
05-05-2008, 01:23 PM
Oho.
They say incidents?
And he not sure which day exactly he was raped? Fishy...
I wonder if these assaults occurred on separate days..and if he slept over by the friend for all...

Sooo many questions...

guyguy
05-05-2008, 01:43 PM
A 21 year old woman raped a 17 year old boy on two seperate occasions that occurred at a friend's house who then filed charges against the woman? What is wrong with this picture? The "boy" is 17 years old! The "woman" is four years older. You really believe that a 21 year old girl could rape a 17 year old hardback fella? Anybody ever notice the physical size of a 17 year old, especially in Trinidad vs a 21 year old girl? Who dis fella trying to fool? He fadda should ah cut he tail for being so dotish and making he family look like morons in de fuss place.

sheppy
05-05-2008, 01:48 PM
people assuming d oman was havin intercourse with the young un....
it have other ways to rape a man eh!!

Babygirl
05-05-2008, 01:50 PM
people assuming d oman was havin intercourse with the young un....
it have other ways to rape a man eh!!

Oh Gad oy! Well, wuss yet. :shock:

guyguy
05-05-2008, 01:58 PM
people assuming d oman was havin intercourse with the young un....
it have other ways to rape a man eh!!
Name ten ways.

serenity
05-05-2008, 02:23 PM
people assuming d oman was havin intercourse with the young un....
it have other ways to rape a man eh!!

Educate meh pls.

cocoa
05-05-2008, 02:35 PM
This is how i see it, when a woman see a man that she likes, she would move heaven and earth to trap the man. Down the road she realize that he is not what she wanted then she start bitching. When a man sight a chick that he likes he would make a pass at her. If she rejects him, he moves on.

bluenote492000
05-05-2008, 02:50 PM
A 21 year old woman raped a 17 year old boy on two seperate occasions that occurred at a friend's house who then filed charges against the woman? What is wrong with this picture? The "boy" is 17 years old! The "woman" is four years older. You really believe that a 21 year old girl could rape a 17 year old hardback fella? Anybody ever notice the physical size of a 17 year old, especially in Trinidad vs a 21 year old girl? Who dis fella trying to fool? He fadda should ah cut he tail for being so dotish and making he family look like morons in de fuss place.

Anyone ever thought that maybe mammy ketch him in bed with the “older” woman. Probably hate the woman head and went quick quick to file charges. Or mammy find out from a friend that she son and the “older” woman have a ting, she ain’t like that and went and file charges. And like Guy say when it comes to physical size, strength and whatnot if the boy wake up to find the woman in bed with him what prevented him from giving she two good hand and pushing she tail out of the bed? The story didn’t say she drugged him or tied him up or anything. This woman must be ah Amazon with superhuman strength yes. First she had to hold him down with one hand since the other would be busy getting the boy stimulated. Then she still have to hold him down while trying to get into position all the time dealing with a man fighting, clawing, kicking and bawling down the place. And with all the ruction going on the friend who in the house ain’t wake up! But maybe she had a hand over he mouth so she was holding down a man desperately fighting for his virtue with one hand?! Uh something ain’t fishy, something down right wrong with this picture.

sheppy
05-05-2008, 03:06 PM
First of all ..we assuming this boy is some hard back man..and the girl is some frail ting...
It happen in claxton bay eh....(not to cast aspurgeons or anything) but country woman doh be meek and sorf...
suppose the woman is a rippling 300lbs and d boy is 100lbs??

2nd we assuming she attempted coitus...it could have been a foriegn object insertion attempt

anyway... if she was really sneaky, she could probably arouse the boy while he slept (especially if he is a strong sleeper) the body will still react to physical stimulation...and she could gradually sneak 'it on'. I doubt she burst into the room in her birthday suit and rip the boy clothes off and proceed to force herself on him....

either way...for it to happen twice while he was 'by a friend' is very suspicious...obviously mischief is afoot...

bluenote492000
05-05-2008, 03:19 PM
I find it very suspicious that it doesn’t have a single picture of the lady in the papers when she was arrested. When they hold the Colombian prostitutes we usually get pics but nothing especially with the perpetrator being female :? . Methinks the woman was an average sized Trini girl (5’4-5’6”) which would make her raping anybody highly unbelievable hence no pic. If she was a real big bruiser then of course her pic would be posted for people to say yeah boy dat oman can take down horse poor fella didn’t stand ah chance. And what about the friend in the house? If the woman was a real behemoth then now self man bawling like Rodney King meeting the LAPD. So either a. there was no bawling or b. two fellas couldn't handle one girl? Suspicious :? :?:

sylvestter
05-05-2008, 04:03 PM
aerenity - assault
not rape...

guyguy
05-05-2008, 05:43 PM
First of all ..we assuming this boy is some hard back man..and the girl is some frail ting...
It happen in claxton bay eh....(not to cast aspurgeons or anything) but country woman doh be meek and sorf...
suppose the woman is a rippling 300lbs and d boy is 100lbs??

2nd we assuming she attempted coitus...it could have been a foriegn object insertion attempt

anyway... if she was really sneaky, she could probably arouse the boy while he slept (especially if he is a strong sleeper) the body will still react to physical stimulation...and she could gradually sneak 'it on'. I doubt she burst into the room in her birthday suit and rip the boy clothes off and proceed to force herself on him....

either way...for it to happen twice while he was 'by a friend' is very suspicious...obviously mischief is afoot...
Ah bet you ah thousand dollars dat yuh cyar find 100 women in T&T dat iz 300lb or over.
Like yuh born lass nite sheppy? Yuh fallin into de same crowd as Falcon. Nex ting, yuh go say dat yuh went PresHENtation too. Iz den ah go ded in troot. :D :D :D

Beetle
05-05-2008, 05:47 PM
How does a woman rape a man/boy, I mean if the man/boy doesn't want to do it, what magic she using to make it stand up ?

guyguy
05-05-2008, 06:47 PM
How does a woman rape a man/boy, I mean if the man/boy doesn't want to do it, what magic she using to make it stand up ?
Arsk sheppy. He songin' like ah expert orn dem tings oui.

skl
05-05-2008, 06:54 PM
Ah bet you ah thousand dollars dat yuh cyar find 100 women in T&T dat iz 300lb or over.


what the azz is this? when last you walk through POS ?

guyguy
05-05-2008, 07:51 PM
Ah bet you ah thousand dollars dat yuh cyar find 100 women in T&T dat iz 300lb or over.


what the azz is this? when last you walk through POS ?
Donkey years now. I from de bush, remember? We doh have fat women dey since dey does do rell hard wuk. So it have plenty 300lb+ women in POS dese days den?

lexbarker
05-05-2008, 11:59 PM
Where were all these women when I was young?

bluenote492000
05-06-2008, 08:00 AM
So the Express has a pic of the woman http://www.trinidadexpress.com/preview.html. Looks like she 5'2"-5'4" and somewhere between 150-165lbs and she willingly turned herself over to the police station. Yup there's a guilty person for ya :roll: ! Now if she was built like the female wrestler Chyna I'd have understood but come on people how on God's green earth does a woman have sex with a man against his will. If a guy with ED can't get it working when he wants to how can he get it working when he doesn't want to :?: Ah mean look at the pic could that woman force any of you guys here on the forum?

Double Trouble
05-06-2008, 08:36 AM
This is so Trinidad! So stupid! A total waste of police resources, especially in a time of runaway crime in T&T. There are guys who are repeat offenders for murder, violent rape and kidnapping, but never get their ugly mugs published on the front page of the express or guardian. What's with that? Million dollar drug bust in a hig shot house down the islands, not ah picture of anyone.

This young woman's picture is splashed on all the dailies as if she is the country's most dangerous criminal. As guyguy says, look at her age compared to the young man's age. There is something terrible wrong with this story and the authorities should have investigated it fully before humiliating the young female. Why didn't this 17 yr old use his superior strength to restrain her? If he says it was rape, did he get a woody during the act? Did he just lay there or was he an active participant?

skl
05-06-2008, 10:07 AM
Ah bet you ah thousand dollars dat yuh cyar find 100 women in T&T dat iz 300lb or over.


what the azz is this? when last you walk through POS ?
Donkey years now. I from de bush, remember? We doh have fat women dey since dey does do rell hard wuk. So it have plenty 300lb+ women in POS dese days den?

correct . they way bigger than this woman in question.

serenity
05-06-2008, 11:33 AM
So if the youthman lying, whats his motive?
Why put yourself through the humiliation of telling everyone a woman take advantage of yuh if is not true?

guyguy
05-06-2008, 12:55 PM
So if the youthman lying, whats his motive?
Why put yourself through the humiliation of telling everyone a woman take advantage of yuh if is not true?
Humiliation? Dat boy boasting for everybody to see and hear. Iz like the Viagra ad that says that if you have an erection that lasts for more than 4 hours, you should call your doctor. Why? I calling all the TV stations and Newspapers one time oui.

bluenote492000
05-06-2008, 01:10 PM
Didn't the papers say it was the mom that went and filed charges :!: Now that I can believe! His mother forced him to the station and filed charges against this woman that taking "advantage" of her son.

kayt
05-06-2008, 01:39 PM
First of all ..we assuming this boy is some hard back man..and the girl is some frail ting...
It happen in claxton bay eh....(not to cast aspurgeons or anything) but country woman doh be meek and sorf...
suppose the woman is a rippling 300lbs and d boy is 100lbs??

2nd we assuming she attempted coitus...it could have been a foriegn object insertion attempt

anyway... if she was really sneaky, she could probably arouse the boy while he slept (especially if he is a strong sleeper) the body will still react to physical stimulation...and she could gradually sneak 'it on'. I doubt she burst into the room in her birthday suit and rip the boy clothes off and proceed to force herself on him....

either way...for it to happen twice while he was 'by a friend' is very suspicious...obviously mischief is afoot...

I'm in a agreement Sheppy. It is possible, likewise he could have got caught out in the middle of some mutual seduction and cried rape. That situation can happen with girls and slightly older guys too. Everything is possible. A boy or man can be just as much a victim or a sexual partner.

dancerboy
05-06-2008, 11:35 PM
So if the youthman lying, whats his motive?
Why put yourself through the humiliation of telling everyone a woman take advantage of yuh if is not true?
Dis oman coulda take he mudder man, and she set up she son to say de oman rape im. I really doh know what took place, but you can rest assured somebody is getting screwed in this case. And $80,000 bail. What's up wid dat ! Is she ah manace to society, is she likely to rape anudder youthman, is she likely to flee ? ONLY IN T&T. this should be in RIPLEY'S: BELIEVE OT OR NOT.

DANCERBOY

Huma
05-07-2008, 12:31 AM
The fact that people in this thread posting "Only in Trinidad" in response to this particular scandal is amazing.

bluenote492000
05-07-2008, 07:30 AM
The only scandal taking place here is one overprotective single mother using the resources of the police and court for whatever personal beef she has with this woman.

Devil
05-07-2008, 12:32 PM
how did she assault him.. did she tie him up and use a strap-on on him?

i think either he is lying out of his ass or he was tied up or forced at gun point to give her head etc.. a man wont get an erection if he doesnt want sex

there was another case/report like this some years ago where a guy said he was raped by a few women.. turned out to be false and was charged for wasting police time!

skl
05-07-2008, 01:01 PM
i think either he is lying out of his ass or he was tied up or forced at gun point to give her head etc.. a man wont get an erection if he doesnt want sex

I wouldnt go so far as to say that. remember he's 17. a stiff breeze would be enough to get him hard.

snowbird
05-07-2008, 01:14 PM
Not sure what the 'age of consent' is in T&T, but is it possible that the young man involved may have been under the age of consent; if so, doesn't matter if he was a willing participant, it's still rape, in this case 'Statutory Rape', the cops have no choice, they have to lay the charge.

And for all of those who think this is funny, and that the boy was the receiving end of some kind of gift; let me remind you that rape has nothing to do with intercourse, it is all about 'power' over your victim..... nothing funny about that.

Babygirl
05-07-2008, 02:22 PM
Not sure what the 'age of consent' is in T&T, but is it possible that the young man involved may have been under the age of consent; if so, doesn't matter if he was a willing participant, it's still rape, in this case 'Statutory Rape', the cops have no choice, they have to lay the charge.

I'm not sure, but I think the age of consent might be 16. :?


And for all of those who think this is funny, and that the boy was the receiving end of some kind of gift; let me remind you that rape has nothing to do with intercourse, it is all about 'power' over your victim..... nothing funny about that.

I totally agree. Regardless of whether this boy was raped or not, I do think that there are boys who are raped by women but do not report it out of fear of being ridiculed.

bluenote492000
05-07-2008, 03:02 PM
I don’t think this is funny at all. I believe men can rape women, children or other men. I believe women can seduce men who then regret the sexual encounter. But can a woman physically overpower a man to rape him? I don’t think so. When a man rapes a woman or child the perpetrator has to be aroused the victim isn’t. It is forced, unwanted and usually involves some kind of physical or medical restraints but how does a woman rape a man? A man has to become aroused and I’m not buying the anything could get a man in the mood. If that was the case then every guy that ever went for a prostate exam or any physical by a doctor would get an erection from the slightest touch of the doctor. You know what really turns my stomach that incidences like this is making the word rape a joke. Look at the front page of today’s Express of the woman raped and killed in her home. That’s rape.

skl
05-07-2008, 03:50 PM
A man has to become aroused and I’m not buying the anything could get a man in the mood. If that was the case then every guy that ever went for a prostate exam or any physical by a doctor would get an erection from the slightest touch of the doctor.


but we're not talking about a man we're talking about a 17 yo. it would take very little to get him aroused even agianst his will.


When a man rapes a woman or child the perpetrator has to be aroused the victim isn’t.

Incidentally it is documented that 4-5% of women also experience arousal and orgasm while being raped, which adds to the trauma, shame and guilt since thier own body is being used agianst them.

Devil
05-07-2008, 06:14 PM
look at 17 if i get a stiffie and some girl wanted to relieve it for me.. go right ahead.. with head!

What i'd like to know is how SHE forced HIM.. i mean was did she pin him and he cried like a baby while he had a hardon?

if its statutory rape (meaning he consented, but is underage) the police would not know unless the parent found out and reported her--

Huma
05-07-2008, 06:19 PM
Incidentally it is documented that 4-5% of women also experience arousal and orgasm while being raped, which adds to the trauma, shame and guilt since thier own body is being used agianst them.

And it motivates their attackers to say "She wanted it" or "She enjoyed it". It can also confuse the women into believing they wanted it as well.

I'm glad you brought up that point, skl. People tend to remain willfully ignorant about the complexities of sexuality as they can encounter some very uncomfortable truths.

Solachica
05-07-2008, 07:04 PM
I think tht this young man was with this woman and the mother warn him and the woman to stop and when she found out it happened 2nd time she went and reported it.

Wasn't it assault and not rape? Whts difference?

Devil
05-07-2008, 07:35 PM
as far as i understand:

assault is when the attempt to do bodily harm to another person
rape is forced sexual relations
Statutory rape is sexual relations with someone under the age of consent
battery is actually doing bodily harm to another person

skl
05-07-2008, 08:00 PM
look at 17 if i get a stiffie and some girl wanted to relieve it for me.. go right ahead.. with head!


"some girl" ? surely you must have had standards.

I can think of a few women with whom I would want to have no sexual contact , whatsoever.

bluenote492000
05-08-2008, 09:46 AM
What i'd like to know is how SHE forced HIM.. i mean was did she pin him and he cried like a baby while he had a hardon?

if its statutory rape (meaning he consented, but is underage) the police would not know unless the parent found out and reported her--

Thank you! Exactly what I’m saying, if you walk step by step through what supposedly happened you’ll realise that logically it couldn’t happen.

a. She walks naked into the room where guy is supposedly sleeping like the dead.
b. She then starts stimulation but wouldn’t she have to hold him down fearing he wake up before the act? Also I don’t know about y’all but if I’m sleeping like the dead I think I’d immediately wake up if I feel someone’s hand in my crotch :? . Just saying.
c. At some point in time he wakes up and I highly doubt it was after the fact. So he wakes up, confronted with this female predator who is unarmed since the report didn't say he was raped at knife point or whatever. So he goes one on one with a woman who is between 5’2-5’4” tall, 140-160lbs and absolutely no muscle tone and is unable to fight her off?
d. Because of her sheer physical strength and the obvious deafness of his friend in the same house who could not hear the battle taking place in the other room, he is forced to endure on two separate occasions such a demeaning act as rape.
e. Uh why didn’t she then go and rape the friend :? ? Since he obviously sleeping more like the proverbial dead and is unable to hear his poor friend bawling for help.
f. Why isn’t the woman beaten black and blue :?: If some unarmed perpetrator is trying to rape you, you fight back. Shoot even if the person is armed you may still fight back like the woman who was recently raped and killed. But this woman is all hale and hearty. No bumps, bruises or black eyes to suggest she wrestled and forced a guy to submit to her advances.

The logic is falling down all over the place here. What is more believable is this young man and woman had a relationship his mother didn’t approve of. He tells his mother he’s done with the girl and proceeds to secretly meet her by the friend’s house which is what young people do when they want to see someone their parents don’t approve of. So they have been using the friend’s house as a love shack, mom finds out and the crap real hits the fan. Mom flies up into the station to report how this woman raping her son. Charges are filed; of course it makes the papers and here enters Joe Public. Logical. Believable. And most likely what happened :ugeek: .

sapodila
05-09-2008, 07:07 PM
Boy raped, woman charged :shock: :shock:

-Carolyn Kissoon


Monday, May 5th 2008
Source - Trinidad Express http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161318648


A 21-year-old woman is due to appear in court this morning charged with two counts of sexual assault against a 17-year-old schoolboy.

The unemployed woman of Teak Avenue, Claxton Bay was arrested at the weekend.

The teenager, who also lives in Claxton Bay, said he was sleeping over at a friend's house when he awoke to find the woman on top of him.

The incidents allegedly occurred between March 20 and April 4. Police said the teenager told his mother what happened and a report was made at the Couva Police Station.

The boy was medically examined by a doctor who confirmed that he had been assaulted, police said.
This seems to be a common thing these days. I know of a young 21 yr old woman who served time in prison and must register as a sex offender, each time she takes up residence in a different community, for the 'rape' of a 17 yr old young man. The judge said to her " don't tell me you did not know his age when you had sex with him". She replied " I know he is 17 yrs old your honor......". Well the rest is history. The judge said "...... if it was he 21 and you 17, then the crime would fit in that situation......only this time, the cowboy does not wear the hat .... "

serenity
05-09-2008, 07:58 PM
Just something to think about:
What is the definition of rape in law?
What is the definition of sexual assault?
Need there have been vaginal penetration?
How important is the 'strength factor' in relation to other possible forms of sexual assault?
How long does the act needs to be perpetrated on him before it qualifies as an assault?

In other words, lets say she could have fondled him in his sleep for a half a min.
Is that a realistic scenario?
Did she have to pin him down?
Is that a sexual assault?
Is it possible that she had the strength and opportunity to do this?

The boy may very well be telling the truth.

sapodila
05-09-2008, 08:02 PM
Just something to think about:
What is the definition of rape in law?
What is the definition of sexual assault?
Need there have been vaginal penetration?
How important is the 'strength factor' in relation to other possible forms of sexual assault?
How long does the act needs to be perpetrated on him before it qualifies as an assault?

In other words, lets say she could have fondled him in his sleep for a half a min.
Is that a realistic scenario?
Did she have to pin him down?
Is that a sexual assault?
Is it possible that she had the strength and opportunity to do this?


The boy may very well be telling the truthMight be his Mammy or Auntie who screel on de boi and get his lover in trouble..... because she is ah 'old tess' ( their term eh) .

dhal
05-09-2008, 08:32 PM
but country woman doh be meek and sorf...

oh lord fadda!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: ah love it!!!

daz meh new signature :D :D

Eden
06-04-2008, 10:54 AM
Hmmm...seems a little strange...
I wonder how they confirmed assault...

Same thing I wanna know!
Lawd, I know I shouldn't laugh, but goodness, I can't help it
And who is this 17 year old, did he not enjoy the sexperience? :D :lol:

Chicabonita
06-04-2008, 11:05 AM
Eden, I found your comment crude and out of place particularly because you don't know this kid, I hope you do not think the same way about every victim of sexual crimes or what is worst, I hope you never had to endure such a traumatic experience. Think before you type for heaven's sake :roll:

Guys, a doctor examined the child and confirmed he was assaulted. I don't think a teen would be so dumb as to make up a story when he wasn't caught in the act but went home and told his mother. Sexual assault doesn't necessarily means rape.

Eden
06-04-2008, 11:19 AM
Eden, I found your comment crude and out of place particularly because you don't know this kid, I hope you do not think the same way about every victim of sexual crimes or what is worst, I hope you never had to endure such a traumatic experience. Think before you type for heaven's sake :roll:

Guys, a doctor examined the child and confirmed he was assaulted. I don't think a teen would be so dumb as to make up a story when he wasn't caught in the act but went home and told his mother. Sexual assault doesn't necessarily means rape.


Sorry you found it crude and out of place ChicaB. Ooh please girl, I'm not a monster when it comes to sympathy towards sexually assaulted victims and all that goes along with it. I know first hand about sexual assault.

Chicabonita
06-04-2008, 11:23 AM
I didn't say you are a monster but I think your comment was crude, after all who in the world would laugh at something like this even more if that person claims to know first hand about sexual assault? :|

Anyways..carry on people.

Hyena
06-04-2008, 01:33 PM
First, on the subject of involuntary arousal during a female/male on male sexual assault: http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... _rape.html (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/788049/sexual_arousal_in_male_victims_of_rape.html)
There are more places to look for research on arousal during rape and sexual assault, but that one has a lot of links within the article that go to similar and relevant pages (most relevantly, the Rape Victims Advocacy Program website).

Secondly, we don't know what the boy looks like (or at least I don't).
Looking at that picture of the girl, I can tell you that at 17 years old I was not the biggest or the strongest of people and that girl could have probably overpowered me. On top of that, I wasn't even the smallest 17 year old I knew, so those who were smaller might have had a worse time.

Fear can also have a paralyzing effect on some people. So maybe the boy was so fearful that he simply couldn't fight back. It's why sometimes people don't move out of the way of an oncoming vehicle or cannot respond appropriately when being held up.

As for "where are the signs of struggle?". Who says all signs of struggle are going to be on her face/arms? There's other parts of the body that may have bruises and scratches: back, legs, stomach, breasts etc... In that picture none of those are exposed.

We talk about the police and the response time and all that foolish stuff, but when a case like this presents itself, some people laugh and make jokes. I'm not saying that you can't approach the case critically, but don't laugh at something as serious as sexual assault allegations. When you do, you are being as asinine as the police who take hours to reach your house when a potential thief/murderer/rapist is long gone and your stuff is gone or you are dead. Why? Because you're writing off a report from the get go.

With that said, I too would like to know how they tested the boy for sexual assault.
I'm going to go do some research.

Trini Soldier
06-06-2008, 01:28 PM
Young kids and many women are being brutalized (physcially and mentally) everyday in Trini. Is this really a "case" to waste limited resources on? He was raped and went back and was raped again? To me it trivializes the word rape. I don't know the facts, but there are three sides to any story (his, hers, and the truth). I simply don't believe he was raped.

deathwinger
06-10-2008, 08:16 AM
Now I reading this and I don't understand how anyone can't understand how a man can be raped, perhaps its just the Trini superb post colonial mentality of woman being passive and man being boss rearing its ugly head.

Sexual Harassment is the unwanted touch.
Rape is the sexual exploitation and loss of sexual power of another human being.


Let's say some woman who real beastly coming and touching me up, and I telling stop that and she keep doing it to a point that I want to get away, she has the keys to the door that's locked. If I lay a single hand on her, she can file for assault charges and she probably knows this.

Next thing you know, she uses some chloroform and shoves it in my face, I'm weak. Then she bends me over and straps on a dildo and proceeds to sodomize.

Hmm, would that be rape, or am I just a Trini man who should shut up cause woman can't rape man?

bluenote492000
06-10-2008, 01:24 PM
Uh rape is not sexual exploitation. Here’s a definition for rape “The crime of rape (or "first-degree sexual assault" in some states) generally refers to non-consensual sexual intercourse that is committed by physical force, threat of injury, or other duress. A lack of consent can include the victim's inability to say "no" to intercourse, due to the effects of drugs or alcohol. Rape can occur when the offender and victim have a pre-existing relationship (sometimes called "date rape"), or even when the offender is the victim's spouse.
Under a variation known as "statutory rape," some states make it unlawful for an adult to engage in sexual intercourse with a person who has not reached the age of consent (usually 18 years of age).” http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/rape.html.

So the woman is being charged with having sexual relations with this guy against his will. So she either physically restrained him, threatened him with some type of weapon or other means of duress. But according to the victim “he was sleeping over at a friend's house when he awoke to find the woman on top of him.” No weapon, didn’t say he was passed out drunk nothing. Just one minute he was sleeping the next some woman on top of him having sex. .On two separate occasions? Huh. Rape victims are usually terrified of returning to the place where the rape occurred. He not only returned but stayed in the same house, in the same room where the last rape happened with his rapist in the room down the hall? Uh huh. Look I’m thinking like I’m a juror placed on this case so I want to know
a. Why was he at the friend’s house on both occasions? Ok giving the victim the benefit of the doubt maybe he was just liming by his pardner it get late and he decided to stay. I’m not going to go too deeply into the fact that a young single mother stayed in a house with two men.
b.So he suddenly woke up with this woman doing the deed, did he try to fight her off? If not why not?
c.Did he call out to alert his friend sleeping down the hall? If not why not?
d.Did the friend here anything at all? I mean he was sleeping just down the hall.
e.Why did the victim return and willingly stay in the same house with the rapist? Didn’t he fear being raped again?
f.Then I want to hear the step by step details of how this happened.
h. what about the only witness to the crime (the friend). Or did he sleep through the whole thing?

This woman’s defense lawyer is going to have a pretty easy time of it since the prosecution is going to have to show that this woman was physically able to restrain the guy to do the deed. I’m sure the implausibility factor will surely enter when a jury sees the perpetrator and her victim. She’s average height and weight for a Trini woman want to bet the victim is also average? Then we are saying that he was so frightened and repulsed that he had an erection twice? Sure fear can have you do some strange things but this is the first I’ve ever heard that it can arouse you. Still have no idea why she didn’t rape the friend. I’m not saying a woman cannot rape a guy, I’m just saying in this case I don’t think that’s what happened.

jawake
07-12-2008, 08:09 PM
If at ' 14 ' I had awoken to find a woman 21 or 61 on top of me naked and no doubt smelling a how - fer the second time in a row .. I wasnt telling anybody.. my friend parents would have had to put me out and ban me from coming over - I would have been going there straight from school.. my parents would be coming over to see what up ..Now dais me and every boy that i knew at that age growing up...
By the description of the action in the express it seems as though madame was calmly trying to effect sex and that being not the first time with this 17 year old ,I cant sympathise with the boy as a victim ...at least not of rape.. The only part of that story that says rape, is the word rape ' journalism doing its part '.