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skl
10-11-2007, 06:59 PM
According to ietv its almost certain that Ramesh will be replacing Adesh nanan as the UNC candidate in Tabaquite. Anand run the tabaquite tiger !!!

so finally after 12 years and 3 re elections the UNC finally dumping Mr paradigm. If the COP didnt run , alyuh woulda still be stuck with that dentist.

just1fix
10-11-2007, 10:33 PM
Great so we get a has-been to replace a loser to go up against someone who just might actually be able to make a difference.

I wonder what our brilliant populace is going to do.

Maccogirl
10-11-2007, 11:00 PM
When Ramesh was hanging Dole and the boys he was not a has been, when he introduce the equal opportunity bill he was not a has been, the integrity bill, the DNA bill and whatever else that he did as AG he was not a has been, Annan Ramlogan is not even a dam QC but all yuh calling Ramesh a has been, one thing the man is and that is a brilliant lawyer you have to give him that, he was also a dam good AG.

Scorpio
10-11-2007, 11:22 PM
There is a general perception that his wife is the real legal brain in the RLM family, and judging from his many stupid political moves that is easy to believe.

Maccogirl
10-11-2007, 11:54 PM
Yeah right if you say so, all yuh COP supporters jokey yes, every one and every dam thing is a problem now all yuh have all the scoop on everything :roll:

Scorpio
10-12-2007, 12:06 AM
Yeah right if you say so, all yuh COP supporters jokey yes, every one and every dam thing is a problem now all yuh have all the scoop on everything :roll:

First of all, if you're throwing that for me, I have never said I was a COP supporter; sorry if ah insult one of yuh UNC Gods though, ah hope ah didn't make yuh cry. :roll:

cm103
10-12-2007, 12:19 AM
There is a general perception that his wife is the real legal brain in the RLM family

Actually there is some merit to his wife having the stronger legal mind. My family is in and around the legal circles and this is, and has been the trend of thought for those who know both.

Scorpio
10-12-2007, 12:30 AM
There is a general perception that his wife is the real legal brain in the RLM family

Actually there is some merit to his wife having the stronger legal mind. My family is in and around the legal circles and this is, and has been the trend of thought for those who know both.

Thanks you, but doh study MG, back in de day when RML and Team Unity was pongin she other God, Panday, I sure she was bad talkin him and saying de same thing !

Dispatcher
10-12-2007, 03:18 AM
ITs seems to be confirmed. Here's the story form the Guardian.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/Gweb_12-10-07.jpg

Panday’s decision

Basdeo Panday has put Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj to fight the Tabaquite seat
Maharaj replaced UNC incumbent Adesh Nanan
Nizam Baksh retained to fight Naparima seat
BY RADHICA SOOKRAJ

FORMER Couva South MP Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj is set to fight the Tabaquite seat on a UNC Alliance ticket in the upcoming general election.

UNC leader Basdeo Panday, who had been seeking a safe seat for Maharaj to contest in the November 5 election, finally settled on the Tabaquite seat for the attorney.

Yesterday, Panday ended speculation that Naparima MP Nizam Baksh had been axed to make way for Maharaj.

In a change of heart, Panday decided to retain Baksh to fight the Naparima seat and has instead put Maharaj in the Tabaquite seat—now held by incumbent Adesh Nanan—to fight against Congress of the People’s (COP) Anand Ramlogan.

Nanan has agreed to drop out of the election race.

Party insiders said Nanan was offered a post as a UNC senator instead.

Panday’s latest decision came as Naparima constituents expressed discontent over plans to remove Baksh in order to make way for Maharaj.

Sources said many volunteers had already dropped out from the election committee in that constituency.

Baksh: I had no problem giving Ramesh my seat

In an interview outside the Barrackpore Asja mosque yesterday, Baksh told reporters he had no problem giving up his seat for Maharaj.

He said Maharaj had contributed to T&T’s development.

Baksh said he had already put his election machinery into high gear in Naparima and had been able to mobilise massive support across the constituency.

He also said he was ready and willing to assist Maharaj with his campaign.

“I don’t want to go down the route that (Kenneth) Valley took,” Baksh said.

“Mr Panday spoke to me and he said that he had three or four possible seats that Mr Maharaj could contest, Naparima being one of them.

“I offered up my seat for Maharaj...I thought it was the gentlemanly thing to do.”

A smiling Baksh said he was willing to sacrifice his safe seat for Maharaj, whom he described as a dynamic force and one who would be able to win any seat that he contested for the UNC Alliance.

“I am sensible enough to make any sacrifice for the party...It was Mr Panday who encouraged me to fight this seat and I will help Maharaj,” he said.

While he spoke to reporters, Baksh said he got a call on his cellphone from Panday, giving him the all clear as a candidate to fight the seat.

NAPARIMA SUPPORTERS DELIGHTED

Several supporters expressed happiness upon hearing the news about Baksh.

Imam Ogeer Mohammed said: “Mr Baksh has done so much for Naparima. Flooding, now, is a thing of the past. We have better roads, a distance learning centre, computer literacy courses.”

He also said Baksh was instrumental in uniting Muslim, Hindu and Christian brothers in the area.

Another supporter Shafiyat Ali said: “We are happy. Mr Baksh is an excellent representative and I will be working with him as a volunteer.”

Candace Samaroo of Lower Barrackpore said the UNC Alliance would have lost votes if Baksh was replaced, as he had earned the respect of the Naparima people.

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I also read that Nanan is throwing his support behind Ramesh. So there appears to be no fallout.

Dispatcher
10-12-2007, 03:32 AM
This excerpt from the Express: (Full story: http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161215647 (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161215647) )

Ramlogan said he could not believe the party would send "their weakest possible candidate" to fight him in Tabaquite. He criticised Maharaj who he said was responsible for causing the UNC to be out of government "and from his hands, the blood and tears of the suffering and pain of the UNC supporters drip".

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What Ramlogan really smoking?

vaio
10-12-2007, 07:46 AM
Nanan who has been working for his constitutents and who brought the largest crowd to the rally got a pat in de back from Bas and then a few days later was asked to step down and make way for RLM..

RLM did hang Dole but did he not also defend Abu and he got off??!! :?

halo
10-12-2007, 08:02 AM
RLM did hang Dole but did he not also defend Abu and he got off??!! :?

Law has a morality of its own maybe?

vaio
10-12-2007, 08:15 AM
RLM did hang Dole but did he not also defend Abu and he got off??!! :?

Law has a morality of its own maybe?


just like politics

JediKnight
10-12-2007, 10:05 AM
Nanan who has been working for his constitutents and who brought the largest crowd to the rally got a pat in de back from Bas and then a few days later was asked to step down and make way for RLM..

RLM did hang Dole but did he not also defend Abu and he got off??!! :?

Yuh sure he get a pat? Ah thought it use to be a swift kick to de behind! Ah hear de Tiger was on radio saying he only found out last night! Boo hoo hoo. Alas de tiger roars no more :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

JediKnight
10-12-2007, 10:10 AM
When Ramesh was hanging Dole and the boys he was not a has been, when he introduce the equal opportunity bill he was not a has been, the integrity bill, the DNA bill and whatever else that he did as AG he was not a has been, Annan Ramlogan is not even a dam QC but all yuh calling Ramesh a has been, one thing the man is and that is a brilliant lawyer you have to give him that, he was also a dam good AG.

And who make Ramesh ah SC? He take it for he self!!! Nobody had the confidence in him to appoint him. Ah suppose dat is why he so beholden to Bas, if he wasn't appointed AG, he would never have been ah SC. When he took SC, there was a joke that SC no longer meant Senior Counsel :lol: :lol: :lol: . Anand has far more success in the Privy Council in his few short years than Ramesh has had in his entire carreer. He could only get story publish in the High Court when he win. Yuh doh hear about it when he lose in the Court of Appeal and the Privy Council.

vaio
10-12-2007, 10:15 AM
Nanan who has been working for his constitutents and who brought the largest crowd to the rally got a pat in de back from Bas and then a few days later was asked to step down and make way for RLM..

RLM did hang Dole but did he not also defend Abu and he got off??!! :?

Yuh sure he get a pat? Ah thought it use to be a swift kick to de behind! Ah hear de Tiger was on radio saying he only found out last night! Boo hoo hoo. Alas de tiger roars no more :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

they say he too weak to take on Anand the Great... so dey drop him so fast...he didn't even know :D :D

cm103
10-12-2007, 10:50 AM
On a personal note, I am really appreciative to Anand. My grandfather passed away on Wednesday after 97 years on this Earth and Anand showed up last night to the wake. He was telling stories about when the old man used to pass his family's in his tractor on the way to the cane fields and used to bring them back cut cane when he was a boy.

Anand wasn't there as a politician running for office but rather as a mourner. He did not mention anything about his political affiliation when I was around and from what I heard didn't talk about politics unless he was asked a question by the scores of people there.

Thank you Anand for your kind words and condolences, and for also not using this occasion as a political platform.

JPersad
10-12-2007, 11:25 AM
MG ,
When Bas was kicking RLM and calling him him"corbeuax , jackass and judas ", you was there cheering on Bas !
Now suddenly RLM is that great again ?
Alyuh UNC fanatics jokey yes !

slayerdave
10-12-2007, 11:41 AM
MG ,
When Bas was kicking RLM and calling him him"corbeuax , jackass and judas ", you was there cheering on Bas !
Now suddenly RLM is that great again ?
Alyuh UNC fanatics jokey yes !

Why you don't study what going on down in Mayaro.....the corpses imploding.

vaio
10-12-2007, 11:47 AM
Remember what Bas said abt RLM - Yuh could forget if your father dead, you cld forget if your mother dead, yuh cld forget if your sister dead, you cld forget if your brother dead, BUT DONT EVER FOR RAMESH LAWERENCE MAHARAJ IS THE ONE WHO BETRAY THE UNC AND PUT BACK THE PNM IN GOV'T.... and they talkin how he is so great now... Bas full ah nonsense yes!!

JPersad
10-12-2007, 11:48 AM
MG ,
When Bas was kicking RLM and calling him him"corbeuax , jackass and judas ", you was there cheering on Bas !
Now suddenly RLM is that great again ?
Alyuh UNC fanatics jokey yes !

Why you don't study what going on down in Mayaro.....the corpses imploding.
Desperation sets in !

Maccogirl
10-12-2007, 11:48 AM
When Bas take Dooks back after dooks stayed with Robinson and the NAR and tell Bas haul he tail what you was saying, and when Bas give Dooks a safe seat to run in the election what you was saying, and when Dooks sat as governor of the central bank and did not ensure that the hiring polices of that bank changed what were you saying then.

Yes Bas this and Ramesh that but Dooks have no faults or made no errors in his lifetime he like the Pillsbury's dough boy all sweet and cuddly, if it was not for the forming of the COP,Dooks was a dead weight in the parliament a non entity no one can remember one valid thing he ever did or said,he played a role in parliament just like some of the other dead beats on the PNM side.

So go back in the past tell me what contribution to this nation Dooks made and not the nonsense about the coup, what did he ever do in parliament he came took a seat collected his salary and then went home.

vaio
10-12-2007, 11:52 AM
oh lawd, when the great Bas annoint Dookeran he was good enough to lead d unc but since he was abused by d cabal and left and joined his own party... he is ah dead weight... he never made any contribution...lalalalalalalal... BS.. if Bas was not so power hungry Dooks wld have stayed and been leader and all yuh sick uncy supporters woulda love him.....a lot of cr** is yuh think abt it :x

JPersad
10-12-2007, 11:54 AM
When Bas take Dooks back after dooks stayed with Robinson and the NAR and tell Bas haul he tail what you was saying, and when Bas give Dooks a safe seat to run in the election what you was saying, and when Dooks sat as governor of the central bank and did not ensure that the hiring polices of that bank changed what were you saying then.

Yes Bas this and Ramesh that but Dooks have no faults or made no errors in his lifetime he like the Pillsbury's dough boy all sweet and cuddly, if it was not for the forming of the COP,Dooks was a dead weight in the parliament a non entity no one can remember one valid thing he ever did or said,he played a role in parliament just like some of the other dead beats on the PNM side.

So go back in the past tell me what contribution to this nation Dooks made and not the nonsense about the coup, what did he ever do in parliament he came took a seat collected his salary and then went home.

Here are the facts (I was there ):
Bas had no choice ,but to bring back Dookeran ,if he wanted to attract the undecided voters .
I was there at Aranguez savannah , when Dookeran was introduced on the UNC platfrom .Dookeran recieved the most applause that day .
Further , prior to the COP ,Bas have not publicly insulted Dookeran.
Unlike RLM , Dookeran is not obsessed with power .Therefore Dookeran will never accept Panday , if only to achieve power .
Victory for the sake of victory is not victory !

Maccogirl
10-12-2007, 11:56 AM
Viao I don't think that you on this forum long enough to know so I will let you off the hook but let meh fill you in I am one person from day one always said that Panday was mad to ever put Dooks to lead the UNC, maybe if you ask some others on here that have been on this political board since it started you would know this and since you don't I will excuse you in that regard..... but don't talk carp that you don't know about :roll:

Maccogirl
10-12-2007, 12:02 PM
SO Jp what the hell he went into politics if he does not want power? Why form you own party if he does not want power you know that argument is lame, you really feel all these people that go into politics don't have political ambitions of their own, some more than others.

All of them dream of being PM or a minister one day that is what they are there for, so they going in there because they want to help people but they do not mind if they lose come on JP you know better than that, all of them are political animals, power hungry also if they were not they would be like you and I sitting on the side lines looking on.

As to wanting to help people if they so wanted to there are so many other organization out there to assist in helping people but they ALL chose politics because they all have ambitions and hunger to be on top.....so forget that BS. :roll:

vaio
10-12-2007, 12:03 PM
may be i've not been long in the forum to know what you said, but fact is that UNC supporters accepted Dooks (whatever the reason) to be their leader once Bas gave his 'consent'.... you may not have been one of those in support of that decision but fact is that he was good enough then for Bas..

JPersad
10-12-2007, 12:08 PM
SO Jp what the hell he went into politics if he does not want power? Why form you own party if he does not want power you know that argument is lame, you really feel all these people that go into politics don't have political ambitions of their own, some more than others.

All of them dream of being PM or a minister one day that is what they are there for, so they going in there because they want to help people but they do not mind if they lose come on JP you know better than that, all of them are political animals, power hungry also if they were not they would be like you and I sitting on the side lines looking on.

As to wanting to help people if they so wanted to there are so many other organization out there to assist in helping people but they ALL chose politics because they all have ambitions and hunger to be on top.....so forget that BS. :roll:
Ambition is a great thing .
But you do not sell your soul for ambition .
You do not compromise your integrity for ambition .

AS a a former supporter of RLM (and probaly one of his biggest ) I am personally disgusted at his present action .He no longer gets the benefit of the doubt .It is there for everyone to see .
RLM knows that after this election , the UNC will lose and then he will make his bid to grab its leadership as soon as Bas heads out the door , one way or the other .
But Bas smarter than that.Bas will form a new party and start grooming Mikela to take over .

One way or the other , the electorate is going to mature .

Maccogirl
10-12-2007, 12:11 PM
There were many that did not agree with that but the decision was made and for the sake of not wanting to cause the same confusion that some of you keep talking about many said nothing. Dooks may be a great guy but it was always thought that he was too soft and could not handle the PNM heavy rollers, PNM financiers or supporters.

I still feel that way, and if he was to win the election and be made PM I still feel he would be incapable of dealing with those hidden forces on the outside of the PNM and trust me the PNM will not go away they will fight from day one to bring down any other government that happens to be placed in power other than them, and they will have the full backing of their supporters with that so if you feel once Dooks get in there it is as simple as that it is not, but support him that is your choice I just feel differently about it.

vaio
10-12-2007, 12:12 PM
If something happens to Bas today... there will be a mad fight for leadership...everyone fightin each other and stabbin each other...Jack, RLM, Kamla..

slayerdave
10-12-2007, 12:13 PM
Desperation sets in !

Nah me ah joining no corpse.........

slayerdave
10-12-2007, 12:16 PM
If something happens to Bas today... there will be a mad fight for leadership...everyone fightin each other and stabbin each other...Jack, RLM, Kamla..

If manning gone what will the situation be....or dookeran?

JPersad
10-12-2007, 12:17 PM
There were many that did not agree with that but the decision was made and for the sake of not wanting to cause the same confusion that some of you keep talking about many said nothing. Dooks may be a great guy but it was always thought that he was too soft and could not handle the PNM heavy rollers, PNM financiers or supporters.

I still feel that way, and if he was to win the election and be made PM I still feel he would be incapable of dealing with those hidden forces on the outside of the PNM and trust me the PNM will not go away they will fight from day one to bring down any other government that happens to be placed in power other than them, and they will have the full backing of their supporters with that so if you feel once Dooks get in there it is as simple as that it is not, but support him that is your choice I just feel differently about it.
MG ,
I have come to respect you a whole lot .I want to keep it that way .
I disagree with your argument .
I would say do not knock something before you try it .
Both Panday and Manning failed as PM's .
Do you honestly believe Dookeran will be worse than them ?

JPersad
10-12-2007, 12:17 PM
If something happens to Bas today... there will be a mad fight for leadership...everyone fightin each other and stabbin each other...Jack, RLM, Kamla..

If manning gone what will the situation be....or dookeran?
Calling KB !

vaio
10-12-2007, 12:21 PM
If something happens to Bas today... there will be a mad fight for leadership...everyone fightin each other and stabbin each other...Jack, RLM, Kamla..

If manning gone what will the situation be....or dookeran?

But am sure ppl in the COP not waitin around just for their leader 'leave' just to get their place. Patos already have he successor - Rowley

slayerdave
10-12-2007, 12:29 PM
If something happens to Bas today... there will be a mad fight for leadership...everyone fightin each other and stabbin each other...Jack, RLM, Kamla..

If manning gone what will the situation be....or dookeran?

But am sure ppl in the COP not waitin around just for their leader 'leave' just to get their place. Patos already have he successor - Rowley

Both parties have three deputy leaders...why Rowley?
So what the COP doing?

JPersad
10-12-2007, 12:35 PM
Both parties have three deputy leaders...why Rowley?
So what the COP doing?
The UNC have more than enough problems of thier own .Don't stress you self out further and worry about the COP .At the end of the day , rest assured Dookeran will have no problems handing over leadership when that day comes .
But you will never see Panday do that !

vaio
10-12-2007, 12:38 PM
i think he'll be going 6ft under and still grabbing on to be leader...