Anand on Fire

[JediKnight]

Congress of the People (COP) Tabaquite candidate Anand Ramlogan has warned UNC leader Basdeo Panday that he will bring home the Tabaquite seat for the COP.

Ramlogan declared this yesterday as he commented on statements that Panday made about him on Tuesday.

Panday, who had defended UNC Tabaquite MP Adesh Nanan’s representation of the seat, questioned Ramlogan’s political base and his claim to “political fame.”

Panday projected Ramlogan would lose his deposit, saying Ramlogan was “free to commit political suicide if he wished.”

But, yesterday, Ramlogan said: “If Panday’s example of a successful student he mentored is Adesh Nanan, then I consider it a compliment to be deemed a failure by his standards.

“I would much rather lose my deposit under Winston Dookeran’s leadership, and my conscience be clear that I stood for the right principles, than to win a safe seat under Panday and to carry a heavy burden on my conscience,” he said.

“In any event, far from losing my deposit, I intend to tame the Tabaquite tiger and unmask the horrid neglect of Tabaquite which has provided good support throughout Panday’s political career.

“Tabaquite has the worse roads and lower standards of living compared to any other parts of T&T.

“My claim to fame is certainly not Panday, but rather the demonstrable struggle for social justice and equality throughout my legal career.” (GA)

Oh mih God.... Anand on fire!!! :mrgreen:

[serenity]

Yeah, he sounds dynamite.

[reno01tt]

He appears to me as another Ramesh in the early days of the UNC. Which may not be a bad thing.

[Dispatcher]

He appears to me to be deluded!!!

[reno01tt]

He appears to me to be deluded!!!

Deluded or not he has a good oppertunity to get into Parliment on light the fires that needs to be lit with regards to bills and eventually laws which will govern all of us at the end of the day.

[JediKnight]

He appears to me as another Ramesh in the early days of the UNC. Which may not be a bad thing.

How yuh could insult de man so? :mrgreen:

[reno01tt]

He appears to me as another Ramesh in the early days of the UNC. Which may not be a bad thing.

How yuh could insult de man so? :mrgreen:

I did not mean to, I meant his enthusiasm.

[halo]

he may be the only COP to win his seat..... :shock:

[JPersad]

he may be the only COP to win his seat..... :shock:
I think the election results will shock all of us .

[vaio]

go Anand!!

[JediKnight]

He appears to me as another Ramesh in the early days of the UNC. Which may not be a bad thing.

How yuh could insult de man so? :mrgreen:

I did not mean to, I meant his enthusiasm.

Jus kiddin reno :D

[Maccogirl]

Anand just fire his self with his backward co**lie talk, he sure angered a lot of Indian people major blunder on his part, oh well standing in a court room and addressing a judge is quiet different than standing on a political platform talking to all kinds of people looking for them to vote for you, its a pity he did not know that before he opened his mouth :roll:

[just1fix]

Macco,
That is your opinion and UNC propaganda as far as I am concerned. I thought his speech was very down to earth and would have helped him identify with indian and non-indian voters alike.

Unfortunately you seem to be more concerned with his words than his actions. I would remind you that talk is cheap.

When I see Anand, I see a man who has done more for social justice and equality in this country in the last two years than Ramesh ever has.

Plus he never destroyed an entire government either.

So will you put back a man who has proven he cannot be trusted and expect a different outcome. Or give Anand a chance on the merit of his actions and give your country a chance?

[Maccogirl]

Nope I will stay as one of those backward co**lies that Anand talking about that follow Panday, My grand parents who came from India as indentured servants are all from that backward race, they carried their sugar cane loads daily to make a better life for me, so I appreciate that, you cant go forward if you don't know where you came from and maybe Mr. Ramlogan is not in tune with this part of his life, but I sure appreciate the struggle that my grand parents when through, sometimes bare feet and a luxury to them was a rubber slipper.

So I will stay with the backward co**lie crowd with Panday and the boys at least they wont remind me of where my grand parents came from or what they had to struggle with and neither will they act as if they are now above all that since they have a little cash in their hands.

[just1fix]

Please. What does race have to do with anything? From my perspective he is very in tune with the issues of Trinidad and Tobago as they are. As I said you seem to place more emphasis on words than Anands actions over the last 5 years.

Who has done more to expose PNM nepotism and corruption? So don't come here to play no race card about loyalty to your grandparents and knowing where you came from and how Anand out of touch with the grassroots. You are trying to manufacture a a divide which is entirely artificial.

The best way to repay your grandparents is to uphold the values they hopefully instilled in you. Hopefully you still beleive in punishing dishonest people and rewarding those who uphold social justice and law and order. Do you???

[Maccogirl]

I am not asking you if he is in tune with the issues of Trinidad and Tobago I said that he is not in tune with where he came from that is totally different. He made the statement I felt offended by it and so did many others that called the radio stations today, it was a turn off, You cant be asking for the Indo vote and then say things like that, weather if he can bring down the entire PNM government by his self is not the issue.

He made a remark that rubbed Indian people wrong, now you are trying to say forget that and look at his credentials who cares what they are you cannot go into politics with an air, so what he is not going to represent these backward people or he only looking for an elite crowd, is these backward indo people's vote not important to him? Geez why dance around the subject he made a major boo boo now he will have to live with it.

[Falcon]

Did he really say "Tabaquite has the worse roads"

Waaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!Hahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! :D

Jeez maan.......

[sam48]

Any reasonable, fairminded person comparing Anand and Ramesh to decide which one to vote for does not have a difficult choice.
They just have to ask Ramesh why he destroyed the UNC govt after they voted him into office after only one year and why they should vote for him again.
If his answer convinces them that he had their welfare and interests fully in his mind and in his heartand that they benefited fulsomely fromhis actions, I say Ramesh win.

[Somebody007]

Any reasonable, fairminded person comparing Anand and Ramesh to decide which one to vote for does not have a difficult choice.
They just have to ask Ramesh why he destroyed the UNC govt after they voted him into office after only one year and why they should vote for him again.
If his answer convinces them that he had their welfare and interests fully in his mind and in his heartand that they benefited fulsomely fromhis actions, I say Ramesh win.


Sam, The Light say to forgive RLM for his past mistakes....so you should so the same and vote for the UNC-A.

[lou_uk]

Listened to Anand on CNC3 this morning and he seems to have a fixation on race. I think he should appreciate that the seat he is going up for is now a hot contest with three big names, therefore the nation will be looking on with a microscope.

He again accused Panday/Ramesh for laying the foundation for the demise of Caroni and gave the impression that they wanted to close it down. Then he stated that PNM were discriminating on racial lines as they completed UNC's plans ("lowered the coffin"). John Rahael, "a Syrian" also got a mention in there. When asked why he chose to mention "Syrian" to describe Rahael, he said this was Manning way of carrying out that plan as it would not look good for an African Minister, or even Jarette Narine.

He also went on to clear up his "backward C" statement, which he said was in reference to them (UNC) thinking he would be just another "docile lil C boy" who would follow the line, challenging them to present evidence that he disrespected any party supporters. He claimed the UNC are on a smear campaign against him.

[Parsifal]

Listened to Anand on CNC3 this morning and he seems to have a fixation on race. I think he should appreciate that the seat he is going up for is now a hot contest with three big names, therefore the nation will be looking on with a microscope.

He again accused Panday/Ramesh for laying the foundation for the demise of Caroni and gave the impression that they wanted to close it down. Then he stated that PNM were discriminating on racial lines as they completed UNC's plans ("lowered the coffin"). John Rahael, "a Syrian" also got a mention in there. When asked why he chose to mention "Syrian" to describe Rahael, he said this was Manning way of carrying out that plan as it would not look good for an African Minister, or even Jarette Narine.

He also went on to clear up his "backward C" statement, which he said was in reference to them (UNC) thinking he would be just another "docile lil C boy" who would follow the line, challenging them to present evidence that he disrespected any party supporters. He claimed the UNC are on a smear campaign against him.

Not more of a fixation than members of the party that he used to suport.....six of one half a dozen of the other.

I noted in a Newsday article of today that Fuad Khan is predicting a PNM victory in Barataria/San Juan and also Tabaquite! The former is entirely possible if not likely but Tabaquite?....that's a bit of a stretch I think because if they win there they might as well win in Couva South and Pointe-a-Pierre.

[skl]

I noted in a Newsday article of today that Fuad Khan is predicting a PNM victory in Barataria/San Juan and also Tabaquite! The former is entirely possible if not likely but Tabaquite?....that's a bit of a stretch I think because if they win there they might as well win in Couva South and Pointe-a-Pierre.

PaP is possible thanks to boundary changes and housing developments. but Tabaquite was 13000UNC to 5000 PNM and the seats has gained some 2000 UNC votes from PaP. even if Anand and Ramesh split 50-50 no way PNM taking that.

[Parsifal]

I noted in a Newsday article of today that Fuad Khan is predicting a PNM victory in Barataria/San Juan and also Tabaquite! The former is entirely possible if not likely but Tabaquite?....that's a bit of a stretch I think because if they win there they might as well win in Couva South and Pointe-a-Pierre.

PaP is possible thanks to boundary changes and housing developments. but Tabaquite was 13000UNC to 5000 PNM and the seats has gained some 2000 UNC votes from PaP. even if Anand and Ramesh split 50-50 no way PNM taking that.

Your conclusion is what I feel as well. Heeralal Rampartap would have to pull the proverbial rabbit out of the hat for that one.

The 2002 results were as follows:

Tabaquite - UNC 12,490 : PNM 4,823

Pointe-a-Pierre - UNC 10,770 : PNM 7,792

I think that voter apathy may be high in places like Tabaquite because of the nastiness of the campaigning. This is what has been happening in places like Barataria/San Juan and St. Joseph over the last few election cycles.

[lou_uk]

Continued:

I for one would think twice in seeking this guy's assistance. In the same interview on CNC3 this week, he also mentioned that he only ever did one criminal case. He said he would never do another because after he won the case, his client admitted to being guilty.

Feel free to ask him when you see him. It is one error he cannot deny.

[scrunter]

To err is human but when you continue to do so then it is time to worry...How many time has RLM do the wrong thing ...how many times must we continue to forgive him??? What about Panday...I used to look up to that man as my champion until my families and friends who worked in the sugar industry explained how much Panday helped them.Then to add fire to the fuel ...one of my cousins mentioned how one of our uncles who was on the board of the sugar company told her how one Frank Rampersad had devised a plan for the sugar industry way back in Williams days and when they begged Panday to accept it on behalf of the sugar workers how he categorically shut it down because there was nothing in it for him as the union leader It was then I lost all respect for the man.

BTW my grandparents also came from India both my mother parents and my father parents.I still love eating my rice and dhal with meh bhaggie off course mixed with meh hand no spoon no knife and fork...Ah still like to eat meh sada roti or buss up shut etc. so this thing about knife and fork indians is just another distraction....come on alyuh could do better than dat..

Funny thing though on the 6th November all ah we still have to live in dis country so as far as I am concern I going to vote and regardless of the outcome I not leaveing so Ieh burning no bridges.

[Dispatcher]

...one of my cousins mentioned how one of our uncles who was on the board of the sugar company told her how one Frank Rampersad had devised a plan for the sugar industry way back in Williams days and when they begged Panday to accept it on behalf of the sugar workers how he categorically shut it down because there was nothing in it for him as the union leader It was then I lost all respect for the man.

Scrunter if on everything was as simplistic and baseless as you have described them

The FR plan for Caroni was to retrench all the workers giving them VSEP and land as compensation. The issues with that plan were plentifold.

It wasn't only Panday that put a spoke in it.

Firstly no PNM government was going to lay itself open to the charge of giving land to the non-PNM supporters. They were the government and could have implemented it if they wanted, which they eventually did in 2004. They did not.

The sugar workers objected because they feared that the PNM would use the lands made available for housing to create political strongholds.

The union headed by Panday objected because it would mean the end of the strong body that held a large pocket of the population together giving them a voice with bargaining power. Once VSEP was accepted it would mean everyman to himself not knowing if promises would be met. Hence it was Panday again who objected to the closing down of Caroni.

The social implcations espeically for that community could have been very disastrous with alternatives of alcoholism, worthlessness, crime and dereliction. Because no amount of VSEP can give the average man a sense of self. It's communities and jobs can do that.