Etiquettte

[Jenny]

How far do you take it....eg while dining do you follow the rules eg if you are sitting at a dinner table and waiting for the food, do you place your hand in your lap or rest your wrists on the edge of the table? Or do you dip the spoon into the soup, from the edge of the bowl to the center, moving away from you. Sip, not slurp, from the edge of the spoon and never ever insert the whole bowl of the spoon into your mouth.

Do you always leave a tip even when the service has been horrendous but you know its the right thing to do? Do you tip your hairdresser etc??

[KFCSpicy]

:?

:( Etiquette as declared by whom Jenny? The proverbial THEY? or Miss Manners the old lady who wrote the first book? Or is it just good common sense to sip and not slurp liquids (especially if they are hot :roll: ) and also take your soup from the edge to the centre as it stops spillage?

Do you know crossing your legs are considered lady like? Yet doctors claim this causes blod clots and poor circulation in the legs? So what really is right? The thing that makes u look proper or the thing that makes you comfortable once you don't offend others? Let's face it everyone does be offended by every thing so it go be hard pressed to find something to do that dont upset some loser in the fray.

[Ali]

I wash my hands before I eat :ugeek: ........................... :arrow:

[KFCSpicy]

Yeah but do u wash them after using the toilet? Most men don't and wetting the germs under the pipe is not washing eh Ali :(

[KFCSpicy]

I am sure we all so good morning and the like and excuse me and may I, could I, should I, can you? Please and thank you! also the sorry and forgive me. I sure do! Cause I cannot abide rude people. I doh care if yuh is a stranger or meh mother. Those little things mentioned should be the norm for EVERYONE no one should be exempt from it not even the president of a country.

Do you all leave the last bit of food for someone to come and get just in case? Or do you rush de crumbs and inhale de food down, belch fart and then say pass de toothpick dey dread after? :shock:

[Chicabonita]

Jenny, I try my best to follow basic etiquette while dining. I think is lady-like to do so. I won't tip though unless the service has been satisfactory.

[Jenny]

Etiquette as defined by the charming old lady who wrote the book....

Like, little girls should not climb trees....and yea that other one, a womans legs should not be crossed at the knees when sitting only at the ankles....

How prim and proper are you?

Like I know a few girls, based on their background won't look a man directly in the eyes when talking to them.....in the year 2008 does that still hold valid? Then again, Im questioning someones upbringing....hmmmm

[Chicabonita]

Like I know a few girls, based on their background won't look a man directly in the eyes when talking to them.

Really? Never heard of this before.

[KFCSpicy]

Jenny remember you are applying something made in the 20s 30s 40s and 50s to the now and here. I think basic things apply. I always cross my legs at the ankles unless I definitely want to show some thigh or I am just plain comfortable that way at the time...whatever suits me at the time I do.

Women now adays should not have to worry about looking a man in the eye for fear of seeming too forward and risque, I think we can agree that that's b.s. in the 2008?

Anyways, some people definitions are all based on their fears of being perceived any other way than perfect. I can't and won't live my life that way. It's sad as hell! Yuh constantly telling yuhself over and over how yuh so perfect and anyone else that doh do what u do is either mentally unbalanced or sadly in need of therapy. To me that hints at much deeper personality problems or lack of one.

I think all girls should be taught things at primary school level by their female teachers and then at secondary school level things that apply to their age groups and beyond that it's up to the mothers and aunties and interested females around them to do.

[serenity]

MY grandmother was a stickler for ettiquette. She was a knife and fork indian if ever I met one...and a true lady. So I learnt proper poise and table ettiquette from her. Then later on at school we were taught all the other stuff, like which drinks go in what glass and which fork to use with what meal etc.

I follow ettiquette appropriate to the occasion.
And I do not tip if I am dissatisfied with the service.

[vaio]

i still tip even if the service is not up to par.... but the tip is usually smaller...

i am all for etiquette but i don't to it to the extreme..

[Solachica]

Serenity which school u went tht taught u abt glasses and fork etc?

[serenity]

Serenity which school u went tht taught u abt glasses and fork etc?

Was part of the post grad programme.
My friend in the States had to learn how to play golf as part of her programme.

[Jenny]

I must admit I do try to follow proper dining etiquette.
I always reward good service. Like, I do tip my hair dresser and stylist....I always leave a tip at restaurants....good or bad....sometimes its just a bad day for the waiter/ress....

But Im not one who go to any extreme ...can't think of anything extreme actually! :?

[serenity]

But Im not one who go to any extreme ...can't think of anything extreme actually! :?

Exactly. What is extreme etiquette?

[Jenny]

Whenever a woman leaves the table or returns to sit, all men seated with her should stand up - is that considered extreme??

That's only ever happened to me once when I was dining with some ultra posh people at a restaurant. Mind you they were all approx 60 - 70 yrs old and I was the only woman at the table...not the youngest though. And I had to mind my P's and Q's....

And did you know that Chips are eaten with the fingers and French fries with a fork.

[Falcon]

Vaio, what is extreme? You picking and choosing which ones to follow?

[serenity]

Whenever a woman leaves the table or returns to sit, all men seated with her should stand up - is that considered extreme??

Depends on who u there with I guess. Syl wouldnt do it but a priest I had dinner with did it and it didnt seem overdone at the time. Doh know if dais bec he was a priest.

And did you know that Chips are eaten with the fingers and French fries with a fork.

Hmmm...I didnt know that. Interesting. I wonder what other etiquette nuances are not commonly known.

[sylvestter]

Syl wouldnt do it but a priest I had dinner with did it and it didnt seem overdone at the time. Doh know if dais bec he was a priest.

actually i DO this when we take our clients out for lunch...

i generally try to be well mannered and follow the rules of proper etiquiette. the tipping thing depends on whether service is included in the bill and how good the service actually was...

[Solachica]

Wud have liked to take a sch course like tht. :D

There are people nowdays who give ettiquette classes. Tht beauty queen woman have her classes. Jardine is her name?

[Ali]

^do like me and take notes from this thread....lol

[vaio]

Vaio, what is extreme? You picking and choosing which ones to follow?

:twisted: ...damn right... 8-)

[reficul]

Yeah but do u wash them after using the toilet? Most men don't and wetting the germs under the pipe is not washing eh Ali :(
I learn not to pee on my hands so I don't have to wash them....lol
I try to comply with the normal everyday etiquette practices. Saying good morning (even when people watch me like ah going crazy), saying thank you, sorry, please.........

[Ali]

^ yeh u have to know when to say sorry and when to say "hard luck"

[snowbird]

Etiquette Site http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art22120.asp
Lisa Plancich
BellaOnline's Etiquette Editor
What is etiquette?
Guest Author - Kennie Brown

Etiquette... The word many consider the most frightening in the English language. That maybe because, for most of us, we first learned of etiquette after we had made some kind of social transgression... Forgot to bring a gift, did we?? The thank you card got, sort of, lost in the mail?? Picked up the wrong fork for the shrimp??

Well, the world of etiquette is actually a nice place. Imagine a society where its members seek to never offend another member, and if they do, try to rectify the offence at the earliest convenience. Then imagine that those who are offended gracefully accept the apology of the offender.
That is the goal of etiquette: To make each an every member of our society comfortable with one another by beginning with oneself. The first rule I learned in kindergarten happens to be the first rule of etiquette: Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you. And in the world of etiquette, this adage brings about harmony and peace in society.

So what exactly is etiquette?

Etiquette is defined as those rules that govern social behavior, and they include socially acceptable rules of behavior to be used by all members of a given society on every social interaction, from saying excuse me when you cough to handling unruly children in the supermarket.

Why is etiquette important?

These are not legal rules and they don't have to be followed (many just don't!), but it is these rules that help to keep order in society. Often times, when the rules of etiquette are neglected it can lead to not only anger, but can also lead to criminal responses.

Who is affected by good and/or bad etiquette?

Road Rage killings are almost becoming a norm in news reporting. And “Going Postal” no longer refers to a trip to the post office. And why?? Because of the effects of bad etiquette. Now, on the flip side of that coin, just telling some one thank you for picking up something you’d dropped, or letting someone get in front of you in your driving lane, can make a person perk up and smile for the rest of the afternoon. And why??? Because of good etiquette. Everyone is affected by your etiquette skills whether they are good or bad, so let’s begin to polish them.

Who should learn etiquette?

Every single member of a society should learn the etiquette of their surrounding environment, and that includes children. It doesn’t take much to teach someone proper etiquette and many times you can teach by setting the example.

It is the goal of this site is to teach the novice etiquette student how to better interact with others. Together we can polish our social behavior skills by continuing to learn etiquette concepts

Long answer to a short question :lol:

[Roo]

My hubby always does open the door for me and we taught our son. My children always say please, thank you, etc...we always respect elderly people. Just common sense things...things that help others realize the world is still a good place with nice people in it. A smile always improves someone elses day.

Just think about how you will be when you are a senior and how would you like people to treat you. You have a hand full of groceries, would you want someone to help you or just run through the door and let the door snap shut?

[KFCSpicy]

Yeah but do u wash them after using the toilet? Most men don't and wetting the germs under the pipe is not washing eh Ali :(
I learn not to pee on my hands so I don't have to wash them....lol
I try to comply with the normal everyday etiquette practices. Saying good morning (even when people watch me like ah going crazy), saying thank you, sorry, please.........

this was funny. i knew men did this lmao! Ali admit it!

[serenity]

I find life so much more pleasant when ppl follow the basic rules of etiquette.
Always polite.
Deferential.
Dignified.
Instead of the ugliness of the brawls that mark our era.

[Scorpio]

Basic etiquette in people is a nice quality.

[snowbird]

I find life so much more pleasant when ppl follow the basic rules of etiquette.
Always polite.
Deferential.
Dignified.
Instead of the ugliness of the brawls that mark our era.

If only everyone would understand that things like etiquette and protocol are put in place for a reason, that reason...... an order to everything, then this world would be so much happier place. :lol:

i.e. yuh divorced and remarried Parents fighting over where their new spouses should sit at your wedding; this 'biggie' has caused many a bride to go running for the book on 'Wedding Etiquette' :lol: