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sylvestter
10-10-2007, 09:07 AM
i attended the COP's first west meeting since they announced their candidates, last night in my constituency of port-of-spain south.

i must say that i was REALLy impressed by the diversity of the crowd - afro, indo, white, chinee, syrian - it was a true melting pot. and theer was quite a large turnout as well.

i heard rocky garcia for the first time, and i must say he was a surprisingly good speaker, both content-wise and in terms of the energy that he generated in the crowd.

joe piries was another excellent speaker, and there was quite a large contingent of supporters from diego martin north east.

the most insightful person on the platform (for me) was timothy hamelsmith with his overview of COP's plan to reform the justice system in t&t.

nicole dyer was also quite good.

i was not very impreseed with mr. solomon, the pos north candidate (he didn't hold my interest), and i thought that the pos south candidate, sharon gopaul mc nicol needs to come down to earth a bit.

winston dookeran was fantastic, and i thought he was quite charasmatic last night, despite constant statements by the media and other political leaders to the contrary.

my feeling after the meeting was that the COP has a good chance in the west, they just need to beef-up their campaign in pos south...

JediKnight
10-10-2007, 09:18 AM
i was not very impreseed with mr. solomon, the pos north candidate (he didn't hold my interest)

Gih mih boy ah chance nah... debut on de political platform and he means well. But I agree with you... we just have to be patient. He was not very different to Nicole when she made her debut... and she has matured well.... dong to runnin dong criminals ;)

Falcon
10-10-2007, 09:39 AM
yuh hear Brereton talk yet? What about Muradali?

Parsifal
10-10-2007, 09:46 AM
So let me get this right.

The COP had a bust of a meeting in Arima on Monday night but a good turnout in St. James on Tuesday night.

This is not a good sign for the COP. They are morphing too rapidly into the old ONR with respectable turnouts in middle class communities in the Western peninsula that have always thrown their allegiance behind the PDP and POPPG political demographic.

If the crowd was predominantly working class black then I would have said that they have a shot at doing well....not winning mind you....but doing well.

peanut
10-10-2007, 09:48 AM
So let me get this right.

The COP had a bust of a meeting in Arima on Monday night but a good turnout in St. James on Tuesday night.

This is not a good sign for the COP. They are morphing too rapidly into the old ONR with respectable turnouts in middle class communities in the Western peninsula that have always thrown their allegiance behind the PDP and POPPG political demographic.

If the crowd was predominantly working class black then I would have said that they have a shot at doing well....not winning mind you....but doing well.

ARIMA IS PNM TERRITORY !! NO OTHER POLITICAL PARTY CAN TAKE ARIMA FROM THE PNM EVER AGAIN!

Parsifal
10-10-2007, 09:58 AM
So let me get this right.

The COP had a bust of a meeting in Arima on Monday night but a good turnout in St. James on Tuesday night.

This is not a good sign for the COP. They are morphing too rapidly into the old ONR with respectable turnouts in middle class communities in the Western peninsula that have always thrown their allegiance behind the PDP and POPPG political demographic.

If the crowd was predominantly working class black then I would have said that they have a shot at doing well....not winning mind you....but doing well.

ARIMA IS PNM TERRITORY !! NO OTHER POLITICAL PARTY CAN TAKE ARIMA FROM THE PNM EVER AGAIN!

I hear you but do you agree with the analysis of the ethno-demographic on display in St. James ..... or should I say "eco-demograhic"?

Parsifal
10-10-2007, 10:00 AM
i was not very impreseed with mr. solomon, the pos north candidate (he didn't hold my interest)

Gih mih boy ah chance nah... debut on de political platform and he means well. But I agree with you... we just have to be patient. He was not very different to Nicole when she made her debut... and she has matured well.... dong to runnin dong criminals ;)

As an aside I certainly would not mind Nicole Dyer running me down at all!....and like in Primary school I would slow down to make sure that she "caught" me! :mrgreen:

JediKnight
10-10-2007, 10:14 AM
i was not very impreseed with mr. solomon, the pos north candidate (he didn't hold my interest)

Gih mih boy ah chance nah... debut on de political platform and he means well. But I agree with you... we just have to be patient. He was not very different to Nicole when she made her debut... and she has matured well.... dong to runnin dong criminals ;)

As an aside I certainly would not mind Nicole Dyer running me down at all!....and like in Primary school I would slow down to make sure that she "caught" me! :mrgreen:

Aye behave yuhself... de woman marid wid ah chile... an go ahead... the husband ha gun to boot!

JediKnight
10-10-2007, 10:15 AM
So let me get this right.

The COP had a bust of a meeting in Arima on Monday night but a good turnout in St. James on Tuesday night.

This is not a good sign for the COP. They are morphing too rapidly into the old ONR with respectable turnouts in middle class communities in the Western peninsula that have always thrown their allegiance behind the PDP and POPPG political demographic.

If the crowd was predominantly working class black then I would have said that they have a shot at doing well....not winning mind you....but doing well.

I would not call the Arima meeting a bust... judging from the camera they had a good turn out. Bec. I was not there I will not give an estimate.

Maccogirl
10-10-2007, 10:52 AM
Rocky have a chance against Rowely you have to be joking, as to the St.James crowd if you want to call that a great meeting well I sorry for you like you never saw a PNM meeting at that same spot, . Rocky and Piers bring their few handful of the west moorings and Victoria gardens group give them some whistles and flags, they go anywhere those two go that is their group so this is not any indication that these fellas are gaining any grass root support.

If you feel the COP winning anyone of those seats in the West well that is your impression but I think differently that is PNM area I don't feel so.

Parsifal
10-10-2007, 10:56 AM
So let me get this right.

The COP had a bust of a meeting in Arima on Monday night but a good turnout in St. James on Tuesday night.

This is not a good sign for the COP. They are morphing too rapidly into the old ONR with respectable turnouts in middle class communities in the Western peninsula that have always thrown their allegiance behind the PDP and POPPG political demographic.

If the crowd was predominantly working class black then I would have said that they have a shot at doing well....not winning mind you....but doing well.

I would not call the Arima meeting a bust... judging from the camera they had a good turn out. Bec. I was not there I will not give an estimate.

I was not there either nor did I see it on TV as I have been traveling. I was going on the basis of The Light's comments. I know I should know better than trusting in reports from "The Dark" ;) ....but I didn't think he would deliberately mislead.

I understand that there was a massive show of support for Junia Regrello's campaign office opening yesterday in Sando West. I really feel that the COP made a bit of an out in this constituency. In Sando West you need to appeal to the ethnic vote....strange that in some of the more affluent areas race plays a role as much as money. Sad commentary on not just our society but humanity as a whole. Sigh.

cm103
10-10-2007, 10:58 AM
Rocky have a chance against Rowely you have to be joking, as to the St.James crowd if you want to call that a great meeting well I sorry for you like you never saw a PNM meeting at that same spot, . Rocky and Piers bring their few handful of the west moorings and Victoria gardens group give them some whistles and flags, they go anywhere those two go that is their group so this is not any indication that these fellas are gaining any grass root support.

If you feel the COP winning anyone of those seats in the West well that is your impression but I think differently that is PNM area I don't feel so.

UNC ever had a turnout like that in St. James? I only asking because I went Poly and Fatima and used to live for 20 years right outside St. James, them faces I saw living in the neighborhood.

Grass root support harder to come by but them boys making inroads.

As for me, I not falling into the roundabout talk about crowd size and how that looking anymore. I just waiting for the next surveys to come out and see where my party stand. From the results before the UNC have plenty ground to make up to even come close to the COP support right now. Debate all you want about the credibility of the polls, that is what is in front of you.

Parsifal
10-10-2007, 11:01 AM
Gih mih boy ah chance nah... debut on de political platform and he means well. But I agree with you... we just have to be patient. He was not very different to Nicole when she made her debut... and she has matured well.... dong to runnin dong criminals ;)[/quote]

As an aside I certainly would not mind Nicole Dyer running me down at all!....and like in Primary school I would slow down to make sure that she "caught" me! :mrgreen:[/quote]

Aye behave yuhself... de woman marid wid ah chile... an go ahead... the husband ha gun to boot![/quote]

I think that she would be worth it man. Gary ain't have the kind of "Gun" that I have boi! .....and I could shoot straight and drive away even faster! :mrgreen:

....so much for my "moral and spiritual values"! :lol:

JediKnight
10-10-2007, 11:25 AM
I think that she would be worth it man. Gary ain't have the kind of "Gun" that I have boi! .....and I could shoot straight and drive away even faster! :mrgreen:

....so much for my "moral and spiritual values"! :lol:

I stayin outta dat one. Yuh on yuh own dey... Da is between you and Nicole D. Buh yuh ha mih vote on Nicole D. ;)

Maccogirl
10-10-2007, 11:45 AM
CM if you want to live in denial that is you, I am being realistic Rocky pulled 1267 votes under the citizen alliance ticket against the same Rowely who had close to 11,000 votes, at that time it was the same Westmorring crowd that thought Wendell Mottley was the man but unfortunately they lost their deposits, now Rocky jumps on the COP bandwagon yes he may pick up a few more votes but come on not enough to move Rowely, Imbert of even the man that replaced Valley.

Look am happy if you feel that the COP can accomplish that but it really think its time people start to get realistic here its only 26 days for election,its time for honesty or we are all going to have to face the full house of PNM the day after the elections, so forget all the banter to make my party look good some of these candidates of the COP going to get good blows especially in the PNM strongholds.

Maybe when persons start to see the seriousness of how things really looking they well realize if something is not done all of we arse is grass, and what we saying daily that we ALL don't want we will end up getting.

lou_uk
10-10-2007, 12:54 PM
Just looking at WINTV and that crowd they pan on, was not too bad but not as big as the initial post had me believing ( looking at this thread earlier).


..there was quite a large contingent of supporters from diego martin north east.

Now if you want to factor that in, (Diego people in St James) I wonder wey all dem people in PNM meeting come from last night.


winston dookeran was fantastic, and i thought he was quite charasmatic last night, despite constant statements by the media and other political leaders to the contrary.

Did not listen the meeting last night but can you tell me if Winston "spoke" about being charged with "treason" again? Did he spend a significant amount of time on his opponents?


PNM is in Point Fortin tonight. I'm considering going out of curiousity, just as when UNC come and COP. It might sound funny but I have never seen any of the 3 leaders in real life. :mrgreen:

sylvestter
10-10-2007, 01:07 PM
Just looking at WINTV and that crowd they pan on, was not too bad but not as big as the initial post had me believing ( looking at this thread earlier). they had to block off the western main road to vehicular traffic because the crowd was so huge. it WAS quite a large crowd for a tuesday night constituency meeting. seeing that i LIVE in st. james and i am accustomed to large crowds on the WMR for various events in the area, i rate it as a very high turnout, albeit that there was a significant diego martin presence. but it wasn't a purely pos south meeting, it was a west meeting with all the west candidates.


Did not listen the meeting last night but can you tell me if Winston "spoke" about being charged with "treason" again? Did he spend a significant amount of time on his opponents?yes, he did mention it, to make his point, and i do not think that he is spending an inordinate amount of time on this.

additionally, i can tell you the feeling on the ground at the meeting was an air of positivity, and the hope for real change in this country, and clean politics with persons of integirity and character.

Sumana
10-10-2007, 01:13 PM
Rocky have a chance against Rowely you have to be joking, as to the St.James crowd if you want to call that a great meeting well I sorry for you like you never saw a PNM meeting at that same spot, . Rocky and Piers bring their few handful of the west moorings and Victoria gardens group give them some whistles and flags, they go anywhere those two go that is their group so this is not any indication that these fellas are gaining any grass root support.

If you feel the COP winning anyone of those seats in the West well that is your impression but I think differently that is PNM area I don't feel so.


Friends of mine who know Rocky call him a joker and want to knw what the hell he doin goin for a seat

lou_uk
10-10-2007, 01:18 PM
PNM is in Point Fortin tonight. I'm considering going out of curiousity, just as when UNC come and COP. It might sound funny but I have never seen any of the 3 leaders in real life.

Scratch that... I'll minus one meeting of the three as one leader is in my area now.. :D

sylvestter
10-10-2007, 01:22 PM
Rocky have a chance against Rowely you have to be joking, as to the St.James crowd if you want to call that a great meeting well I sorry for you like you never saw a PNM meeting at that same spot, . Rocky and Piers bring their few handful of the west moorings and Victoria gardens group give them some whistles and flags, they go anywhere those two go that is their group so this is not any indication that these fellas are gaining any grass root support.

If you feel the COP winning anyone of those seats in the West well that is your impression but I think differently that is PNM area I don't feel so.
i think they have a good chance....

of course this is traditionally "PNM Country", but i think that the COP will give the PNm a run for their money here.

change is afoot, and many of us west folk are leaning towards the COP...

Maccogirl
10-10-2007, 01:50 PM
Well I drove through St. James at 7.30 when they were setting up and again at 9.45 when Dooks was speaking, the police sent you up one side street just before the stage and because of the people standing in front of the stage blocking the road I was able to come down the street at the next corner after that one the crowd was not as wide as the length of RBTT which they were in front off, so I don't really know how you can say that was a large turnout.

Anyway if that was your impression of it I would say I have seen PNM meeting before at that same spot and the road is blocked two blocks down because of the crowd same thing when Smokey and Bunty having a lime, but that is the party you support and if you feel you all I have chance I dont think so, that crowd was not even like a ONR crowd of the old days

cm103
10-10-2007, 11:41 PM
Well I drove through St. James at 7.30 when they were setting up and again at 9.45 when Dooks was speaking, the police sent you up one side street just before the stage and because of the people standing in front of the stage blocking the road I was able to come down the street at the next corner after that one the crowd was not as wide as the length of RBTT which they were in front off, so I don't really know how you can say that was a large turnout.

Anyway if that was your impression of it I would say I have seen PNM meeting before at that same spot and the road is blocked two blocks down because of the crowd same thing when Smokey and Bunty having a lime, but that is the party you support and if you feel you all I have chance I dont think so, that crowd was not even like a ONR crowd of the old days

Yuh know like every other crowd report we were getting is always a different story. I got it first hand tonight from someone that was there that it the crowd size rivalled any that the PNM pulled in the same area. I ent getting excited because I maintain that crowd doh vote.

Maccogirl
10-11-2007, 12:33 AM
Geez well TV must be lying then or maybe tonight on the news they showed the wrong clip so give them a call.

cm103
10-11-2007, 12:39 AM
Geez well TV must be lying then or maybe tonight on the news they showed the wrong clip so give them a call.

Like yuh ent read the part about a different story from everybody.