SOS ... SOS ... SOS

[peanut]

Calling;

From the COP .......... Mr. Dookeran, Mr. Yetming, Mr. Augustus
From the UNC-A ....... Mr. Warner, Mr. Panday, Ms Bissessar and
SUPPORTERS OF BOTH PARTIES!

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!! ... reality check!!!!

THE FUTURE OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE ... DEMOCRACY IS BEING THREATENED and OUR BELOVED NATION IS BEING LED DOWN THE ROAD OF DESTRUCTION on A PATH THAT IS CARVED OUT BY PATRICK MANNING and THE PNM.

The time has come for all of us to put the well being of Our Nation before Party Affiliation. Let us stop fighting and insulting each other, but rather let us stop blindly supporting and begin to put pressure on our Leaders to put the damn Country before their agendas. Let us bombard them with e-mails and phone calls and let us raise our voices at their meetings. LET THEM LISTEN TO US!

PEOPLE, it is OUR COUNTRY ... IT IS OUR NATION and WE HAVE THE FINAL SAY IN WHICH DIRECTION SHE WILL GO! WE HAVE THE POWER, Let us use it! LET US FREE T&T by calling on our Leaders to either unite or accomodate!

[cm103]

You are right but with a change must come a change in ideas and faces from those currently there. The price of unity is Panday and he is not willing to pay.

[peanut]

You are right but with a change must come a change in ideas and faces from those currently there. The price of unity is Panday and he is not willing to pay.

So what happen to OUR ideas and OUR contributions doesn't that count? So are we willing to allow OUR Country to fall in an abyss from which there is no return because Mr. Panday does not want to step aside? Is Mr. Panday's presence in the UNC-A such a critical factor in the direction in which OUR Nation course is chartered?

[serenity]

So what happen to OUR ideas and OUR contributions doesn't that count?

Of course! Dais why we not voting UNCA.

[peanut]

So what happen to OUR ideas and OUR contributions doesn't that count?

Of course! Dais why we not voting UNCA.

No one is telling you which Party to vote for :roll:

This is a SOS call for us to pressure Our Leaders to either UNITE or ACCOMMODATE eachother to RESCUE T&T :!:

[cm103]

You are right but with a change must come a change in ideas and faces from those currently there. The price of unity is Panday and he is not willing to pay.

So what happen to OUR ideas and OUR contributions doesn't that count? So are we willing to allow OUR Country to fall in an abyss from which there is no return because Mr. Panday does not want to step aside? Is Mr. Panday's presence in the UNC-A such a critical factor in the direction in which OUR Nation course is chartered?

The COP was formed because of the shortsightedness and power hunger of Panday. For them to go back and just eat it up would be against what they originally stood for and against the wishes of their base of support who are tired of seeing the same 2 men fight the election for how many years. That plus any coalition would not survive with panday in the mix as he can barely hold on to his own party now, couldn't hold together a coalition when he got the 17-17 and seems even less inclined to do it now. Why would any party repeat the mistakes of the past when dealing with panday? especially since he seems to be lead my the nose from their one financier.

If I was the only man who stood between an opposition coalition that had a very strong chance of taking this election which would be better for the people would I continue to be the roadblock or step aside for the countrys' sake? I guess the answer to that would give an indication of how much i love the country and the type of man I am.

[serenity]

So what happen to OUR ideas and OUR contributions doesn't that count?

Of course! Dais why we not voting UNCA.

No one is telling you which Party to vote for :roll:

This is a SOS call for us to pressure Our Leaders to either UNITE or ACCOMMODATE eachother to RESCUE T&T :!:

But in essence u are. The assumption is that the political scene as it is, is not good enough. What makes u think ppl want an accommodation or unity? I dont.I'm very happy with the three man race. Its this that makes the parties realise how hard they have to work for my vote. Bec votes can be split every which way and nobody knows for sure. I like it like that. If it goes back to a two man race there''s a lot of ppl that wouldnt bother to vote.

[peanut]

Are you putting a price on the rescue of T&T from the PNM? And is that price the absence of Mr. Panday.

The shortsightedness here is in not seeing the bigger picture. The reason I deliberately mentioned "accommodation" is, opposition parties can stop the PNM from getting a special majority and could curtail the actions of the Gov't with a bigger opposition.

[peanut]

But in essence u are. The assumption is that the political scene as it is, is not good enough. What makes u think ppl want an accommodation or unity? I dont.I'm very happy with the three man race. Its this that makes the parties realise how hard they have to work for my vote. Bec votes can be split every which way and nobody knows for sure. I like it like that. If it goes back to a two man race there''s a lot of ppl that wouldnt bother to vote.

A 3 man race will give the PNM a special majority! Is this what we really want for T&T, if it is, why vote?

[serenity]

Pnut, instead of trying to convince us by accusing us of short-sightedness, why not try to convince your Mr Panday that these are the wishes of the ppl - that he steps away from the frontline? Oh and tell RLM as well.

Pnut, things are the way they are bec the ppl want it so. So their voices are already being heard.

[serenity]

But in essence u are. The assumption is that the political scene as it is, is not good enough. What makes u think ppl want an accommodation or unity? I dont.I'm very happy with the three man race. Its this that makes the parties realise how hard they have to work for my vote. Bec votes can be split every which way and nobody knows for sure. I like it like that. If it goes back to a two man race there''s a lot of ppl that wouldnt bother to vote.

A 3 man race will give the PNM a special majority! Is this what we really want for T&T, if it is, why vote?

Then PNM would have deserved their special majority bec is the ppl that vote them in. Thats how it works Pnut. Trust me, if UNC was so great, we wouldnt even be having this discussion bec they'd win hands down. Clearly, by your concerns, you're saying the PNM is the stronger party in retaining their support. Kudos to them.

[cm103]

Are you putting a price on the rescue of T&T from the PNM? And is that price the absence of Mr. Panday.

The shortsightedness here is in not seeing the bigger picture. The reason I deliberately mentioned "accommodation" is, opposition parties can stop the PNM from getting a special majority and could curtail the actions of the Gov't with a bigger opposition.

I agree that is or should be the main objective but everything has a price. You think if Dookeran just goes back to the UNC with Panday at the helm he wouldn't lose support? Especially from those PNM voters who don't want either Panday or Manning.

I want more than anything to get the PNM out but would want a change for the better, not just anyone else to take Manning's place.I cannot in good conscience vote for a UNC alliance with another potential dictator in charge. The moves he has made within his own party speak volumes regardless of what he says and they are hard to ignore.

[peanut]

Stay with me here ... let us not side tracked by RLM and Panday. I am not talking about people or personalities, I am notalking about who will be Prime Minister or Opposition Leader nor I am not talking about which Political Party will lead the Gov't. I am talking about the future of OUR Nation and what will be in her best interest.

Will it be a PNM with a bigger majority or a bigger opposition that will bring about checks and balances in our Parliamentary system?

3 things that are note worthy here. The PNM is not just a Political Party they are and Institution. The second is a 2-way splitting of votes between the COP & the UNC-A and last. At the end of Nov. 5th when all the votes are counted the PNM will win and the PEOPLE loses!

[Scorpio]

I'm holding on the hope that Dispatcher is correct in another thread when he said confidently that Panday will not be around for long again :D

[serenity]

Pnut, the parties ARE the personalities!
Why some ppl not voting PNM? Bec MANNING wants to be a dictator (so dey say)
Why some ppl not voting UNC? Bec is PANDAY they doh like.
Why some ppl not voting COP? Bec they doh think DOOKS have what it takes.

You must have faith in the PPL u put in govt. U cant realistically say u voting for the symbol without considering the person who's behind it.

[cm103]

Stay with me here ... let us not side tracked by RLM and Panday. I am not talking about people or personalities, I am notalking about who will be Prime Minister or Opposition Leader nor I am not talking about which Political Party will lead the Gov't. I am talking about the future of OUR Nation and what will be in her best interest.

Will it be a PNM with a bigger majority or a bigger opposition that will bring about checks and balances in our Parliamentary system?

3 things that are note worthy here. The PNM is not just a Political Party they are and Institution. The second is a 2-way splitting of votes between the COP & the UNC-A and last. At the end of Nov. 5th when all the votes are counted the PNM will win and the PEOPLE loses!

The thing is that you cannot lose sight of the end result like you said. We may just have different versions of what that should be. I don't want the PNM in power, but not a UNC with Panday as PM either. The PNM has already shown their cards and you know where they are taking us should they win the majority they need. The Panday lead UNC hasn't done that but I cannot trust them to reveal it at a later time. If I must vote for them I must know what I am voting for and I do no agree with what I perceive to be another dictator taking over.

We are voting for the future of the nation but also to get rid of one maximum leader, hopefully not to replace him with another.

[peanut]

Pnut, the parties ARE the personalities!
Why some ppl not voting PNM? Bec MANNING wants to be a dictator (so dey say)
Why some ppl not voting UNC? Bec is PANDAY they doh like.
Why some ppl not voting COP? Bec they doh think DOOKS have what it takes.

You must have faith in the PPL u put in govt. U cant realistically say u voting for the symbol without considering the person who's behind it.

While I am in total agreement with what you are saying; Let me ask, as it stands where does the well-being and future of OUR Country fit in all of this?

Mr. Panday is in the twilight of his years and both Dookeran and Manning will be too. What's happening to T&T and the direction in which she is heading is what concerns me and it should concern all of her citizens.

Let me say this, I don't care if the PNM, UNC or COP win the election and forms the Gov't! We need to fortify our Democracy with checks and balances in our Parliamentary System to safeguard our Democracy. A 3 Party race is THE singlemost threat to our Democracy right now as it leaves the door wide open for Dictatorship!

[serenity]

And as long as we have oil, the US will intervene to bring back democracy. :roll:

[Dispatcher]

That's the problem with trinidadian politics. We should be seeing the parities' manifesto, their plans their track record their abilities. Not their personalities.

Personalities come and go. Policies and vision are what we should be voting for.

There should always be checks and balances to ensure personalities do not impact negatively on the people. A strong opposition will ensure that. A democratic process will ensure that. Destroying the opposition by splitting it in 2 is detrimental to our future.

Let us not ruin the hope for a united opposition based on personalities or distorted facts.

[peanut]

And as long as we have oil, the US will intervene to bring back democracy. :roll:

LAAAD, Woman the only time the US will ever get involved is if their investments are being threatened.

[serenity]

U know, I cannot understand this thing about divorcing personalities from the party. I would agree if we were talking about personalities of ppl on the periphery, like Ramlogan, I ent like him much but I would still vote COP. But the personalities in question are the ones that help the determine the vision of the party and whether that vision will hold beyond the elections. In the UNC, Panday IS the party so if yuh eh like him then you can look past that and still vote UNC. Ppl could still look past Manning and vote PNM.

[lou_uk]

There are many here who say things like "politicians don't do anything for me", "I am an outsider", "allyuh and allyuh business", "is allyuh tuh ketch", yet they still come and tell us, "what to do" and "what not to do".

Question for Peanut (since to me you do not come across as the above):
If they come together and win the election how long will it take you to get on a plane and move back home?

[peanut]

U know, I cannot understand this thing about divorcing personalities from the party. I would agree if we were talking about personalities of ppl on the periphery, like Ramlogan, I ent like him much but I would still vote COP. But the personalities in question are the ones that help the determine the vision of the party and whether that vision will hold beyond the elections. In the UNC, Panday IS the party so if yuh eh like him then you can look past that and still vote UNC. Ppl could still look past Manning and vote PNM.


Serenity, stay with me and focus. HEAR THESE WORDS ... DEMOCRACY ... DICTATORSHIP ... CHECKS AND BALANCES and THE FUTURE OF OUR NATION.

This is what it is about in this Election!

NEITHER THE UNC-A nor THE COP IS GOING TO WIN INDIVIDUALLY.

INDIVIDUALLY THEY ARE PUTTING THE COUNTRY AT GREATER RISK of losing her Democracy and having a DICTATORSHIP foisted upon her.

AN ACCOMMODATION WILL INSTALL A BIGGER OPPOSITION THAT WILL BRING ABOUT CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT WILL PRESERVE AND PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY!

[serenity]

Pnut, instead of trying to convince us by accusing us of short-sightedness, why not try to convince your Mr Panday that these are the wishes of the ppl - that he steps away from the frontline? Oh and tell RLM as well.

Pnut, things are the way they are bec the ppl want it so. So their voices are already being heard.

[peanut]

Pnut, instead of trying to convince us by accusing us of short-sightedness, why not try to convince your Mr Panday that these are the wishes of the ppl - that he steps away from the frontline? Oh and tell RLM as well.

Pnut, things are the way they are bec the ppl want it so. So their voices are already being heard.

If they really like it so, why are they running away to the US, UK, Canada and as far away are Austrailia?

[serenity]

You hadda ask them that. I eh know if yuh notice, but I here in triniland.

[Dispatcher]

You hadda ask them that. I eh know if yuh notice, but I here in triniland.

But after the votes get split and all the conscience votes get placed and Manning end up with his special majority you might find yourself looking for a plane to jump on. If they let yuh!

[serenity]

In the spirit of these passioned pleas, I would like to make my own.
Would UNCA supporters please focus on making your party an attractive option to the electorate in their own right rather than attacking non-supporters or bombarding them with pleas of unity. The unity thing aint happenning. And with the UNC in its current form, yuh ent changing nobody mind.

[peanut]

I see you still don't get it .. No one is telling or asking you to vote for the UNC, PNM or COP.

[serenity]

No one is telling you which Party to vote for :roll:

This is a SOS call for us to pressure Our Leaders to either UNITE or ACCOMMODATE eachother to RESCUE T&T :!:

But in essence u are. The assumption is that the political scene as it is, is not good enough. What makes u think ppl want an accommodation or unity? I dont.I'm very happy with the three man race. Its this that makes the parties realise how hard they have to work for my vote. Bec votes can be split every which way and nobody knows for sure. I like it like that. If it goes back to a two man race there''s a lot of ppl that wouldnt bother to vote.

Since we going the circular discussion route I thought I'd save some time and just quote what was said previously. :geek:

[peanut]

And on November when when we wake up to Emperor Manning, a full fledge Dictatorship and no more elections in T&T ...

[Dispatcher]

In the spirit of these passioned pleas, I would like to make my own.
Would UNCA supporters please focus on making your party an attractive option to the electorate in their own right rather than attacking non-supporters or bombarding them with pleas of unity. The unity thing aint happenning. And with the UNC in its current form, yuh ent changing nobody mind.

It is attractive to some as was seen by the Rally on Sunday. And doh tell me everybody there came to fete. It can't be attractive everyone.

But don't tell me to make it attactive they have to get rid of Warner, Ramesh and Panday.

So what would make it atactive for you?

The call for unity is a plea by experienced politicians who know the workings of the Trinidad electorate well enough to know it is not a 3 party state. They know in such a scenario the people of the country may suffer in the long run. They are not short sighted and vindictive like some to mash up the place just to get back at certain people because of their own short comings.

[JediKnight]

While I understand your position Pnut... the fact of the matter is there can never be an form of accomodation with the UNC and COP if Panday is around. That is the plain and simple position. That is a factor that is simply too big to be ignored in the interest of saving the country from the PNM. COP was formed because of trust issues. Once Panday remains, there can be no trust. Cadiz found this out the hard way. I don't even need to go far back in history to illustrate. Just last week Thursday.. lunchtime there would be no leader, by the evening Jack and Bas was the leader. What is the position? Take a stance and stick by it. And I am sorry, I need to know who will be PM is the party wins. I am not prepared to wait after an election. I really do not want to find myself with Adesh Nanan as my PM (it is theoretically possible according to Bas), I have gotten enough jokes about Chambers up de islands. As long as Panday is there there can be no unity/ accomodation. It all boils down to trust.

[serenity]

It is attractive to some as was seen by the Rally on Sunday. Very true. And doh tell me everybody there came to fete.Nope, I honestly believe that about 90% of the crowd were actual supporters. It can't be attractive everyone. True. But you could try making it more attractive nevertheless.

But don't tell me to make it attactive they have to get rid of Warner, Ramesh and Panday. In other words, you want to turn a blind eye to what's really keeping your party from winning the elections..
So what would make it atactive for you? I'm not sure u're prepared to hear.

The call for unity is a plea by experienced politicians who know the workings of the Trinidad electorate well enough to know it is not a 3 party state. They THINK they know the electorate well enough. Clearly not well enough to actually win their vote. They know in such a scenario the people of the country may suffer in the long run. Really? Bec THEY dont get in power? They are not short sighted and vindictive like some to mash up the place just to get back at certain people because of their own short comings. Are u kidding me?! Its the UNC we talking bout?!The same UNC who could keep it together long enough to stay in power?

:roll:

[Dispatcher]

While I understand your position Pnut... the fact of the matter is there can never be an form of accomodation with the UNC and COP if Panday is around. That is the plain and simple position. That is a factor that is simply too big to be ignored in the interest of saving the country from the PNM. COP was formed because of trust issues. Once Panday remains, there can be no trust.

COP is using Panday as the scapegoat. The excutive of the UNC (or the cabal as Dookeran referred to them) were the ones that carried out the motion of no confidence in Dookeran. I can't go thru the whole story again.

If Panday goes COP still has to come back to the Executive, Kamla, Bharath, Mark, etc who were the ones who actually tried to subdue him from using UNC resources to form his own entity. Panday was not even around because of his court cases and Jail sentence. When Panday returned he tried to reunite the factions.

This Panday, Panday, Panday nonsense is just a red herring. I know the man has his faults. Everyone does. But some seem to be on an anti Panday mission without even knowing the history of the politics.


Cadiz found this out the hard way. I don't even need to go far back in history to illustrate. Just last week Thursday.. lunchtime there would be no leader, by the evening Jack and Bas was the leader. What is the position? Take a stance and stick by it.

That just goes to show the flexibility of Panday and his ability to compromise by the decision of the majority. Panday did not want to have a defacto leader of the council. He felt they were all leaders in their own right. He was not prepared to be leader. However the majority of the council felt there should, they must have put forward they reasons and a democratic choice was made. He accepted their decision and did not impose his.


And I am sorry, I need to know who will be PM is the party wins. I am not prepared to wait after an election. I really do not want to find myself with Adesh Nanan as my PM (it is theoretically possible according to Bas), I have gotten enough jokes about Chambers up de islands. As long as Panday is there there can be no unity/ accomodation. It all boils down to trust.

In any party the Leader would normally be the PM. If the leader cannot obtain the support of the majority then the person who does will. It could happen in any party. Jack is currently the leader and hence I would hope he would be the PM. If members choose otherwise then so be it. They will know who they can work better under.

[cm103]

[quote=JediKnight]While I understand your position Pnut... the fact of the matter is there can never be an form of accomodation with the UNC and COP if Panday is around. That is the plain and simple position. That is a factor that is simply too big to be ignored in the interest of saving the country from the PNM. COP was formed because of trust issues. Once Panday remains, there can be no trust.

COP is using Panday as the scapegoat. The excutive of the UNC (or the cabal as Dookeran referred to them) were the ones that carried out the motion of no confidence in Dookeran. I can't go thru the whole story again.

If Panday goes COP still has to come back to the Executive, Kamla, Bharath, Mark, etc who were the ones who actually tried to subdue him from using UNC resources to form his own entity. Panday was not even around because of his court cases and Jail sentence. When Panday returned he tried to reunite the factions.

This Panday, Panday, Panday nonsense is just a red herring. I know the man has his faults. Everyone does. But some seem to be on an anti Panday mission without even knowing the history of the politics.


Cadiz found this out the hard way. I don't even need to go far back in history to illustrate. Just last week Thursday.. lunchtime there would be no leader, by the evening Jack and Bas was the leader. What is the position? Take a stance and stick by it.

That just goes to show the flexibility of Panday and his ability to compromise by the decision of the majority. Panday did not want to have a defacto leader of the council. He felt they were all leaders in their own right. He was not prepared to be leader. However the majority of the council felt there should, they must have put forward they reasons and a democratic choice was made. He accepted their decision and did not impose his.


And I am sorry, I need to know who will be PM is the party wins. I am not prepared to wait after an election. I really do not want to find myself with Adesh Nanan as my PM (it is theoretically possible according to Bas), I have gotten enough jokes about Chambers up de islands. As long as Panday is there there can be no unity/ accomodation. It all boils down to trust.

In any party the Leader would normally be the PM. If the leader cannot obtain the support of the majority then the person who does will. It could happen in any party. Jack is currently the leader and hence I would hope he would be the PM. If members choose otherwise then so be it. They will know who they can work better under.[/quote:e747f]

You making some sense but in a very idealistic way. I don't Panday and the words flexible, re-united or democratic should be used in any way other than negatively to describe his behaviour. Why did Dookeran try to form his own faction? Is it because he was pretty much given Bas' old position but stripped of power so as to seem as a lame-duck leader? Who would want to 'lead' like that?

Placing Panday in such a flattering light doesn't make much sense. His track record for breaking alliances and sidelining anyone who opposed his will can be testament to that.

Jack is another scamp I wouldn't trust based on his track record as well. For a little insight of what might be your future PM take a look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_%22Jack%22_Warner

I also would like you guys to check out the Jack Warner threads on the socawarriors.net forums and read about those that deal and know JW personally and his business practices.

[JediKnight]

[quote=JediKnight]While I understand your position Pnut... the fact of the matter is there can never be an form of accomodation with the UNC and COP if Panday is around. That is the plain and simple position. That is a factor that is simply too big to be ignored in the interest of saving the country from the PNM. COP was formed because of trust issues. Once Panday remains, there can be no trust.

COP is using Panday as the scapegoat. The excutive of the UNC (or the cabal as Dookeran referred to them) were the ones that carried out the motion of no confidence in Dookeran. I can't go thru the whole story again.

If Panday goes COP still has to come back to the Executive, Kamla, Bharath, Mark, etc who were the ones who actually tried to subdue him from using UNC resources to form his own entity. Panday was not even around because of his court cases and Jail sentence. When Panday returned he tried to reunite the factions.

This Panday, Panday, Panday nonsense is just a red herring. I know the man has his faults. Everyone does. But some seem to be on an anti Panday mission without even knowing the history of the politics.


Cadiz found this out the hard way. I don't even need to go far back in history to illustrate. Just last week Thursday.. lunchtime there would be no leader, by the evening Jack and Bas was the leader. What is the position? Take a stance and stick by it.

That just goes to show the flexibility of Panday and his ability to compromise by the decision of the majority. Panday did not want to have a defacto leader of the council. He felt they were all leaders in their own right. He was not prepared to be leader. However the majority of the council felt there should, they must have put forward they reasons and a democratic choice was made. He accepted their decision and did not impose his.


And I am sorry, I need to know who will be PM is the party wins. I am not prepared to wait after an election. I really do not want to find myself with Adesh Nanan as my PM (it is theoretically possible according to Bas), I have gotten enough jokes about Chambers up de islands. As long as Panday is there there can be no unity/ accomodation. It all boils down to trust.

In any party the Leader would normally be the PM. If the leader cannot obtain the support of the majority then the person who does will. It could happen in any party. Jack is currently the leader and hence I would hope he would be the PM. If members choose otherwise then so be it. They will know who they can work better under.[/quote:9404b]

And who is de executive? They all pander to Panday. Even when Panday was in jail, he was callin de shots, so don't be fooled. And flexibility? There was an agreement to put Kamla, but this was done in Jack's absence. Up to Thursday lunchtime Bas was on radio saying there will be no leader, but by Thursday night it was him and Jack. And who is the Leader? Or will you all go with Mayhoo's suggestion of 2 PM's?

[Scorpio]

And as long as we have oil, the US will intervene to bring back democracy. :roll:

Like in Venezula ?

[Mr Majik]

Ok Peanut..so lemme get this straight, using a couple of hypotheticals...

Scenario a) I don't like Panday, and vowed that I would never vote for any party he leads. I was once UNC but now I've joined COP. Now you want my party to join UNC and for my vote to assist Panday in becoming PM again?

Scenario b) COP and UNC agree to accomodations. I happen to live in a constituency which the powers that be have decided will be contested by a UNC candidate, not a COP member. As in scenario a, above, you now expect my vote to go to Panday?

Scenario c) My leader, Winston Dookeran, has selected a candidate for each of the 41 seats. I am one of those candidates chosen. However, the constituency I am selected to vie for is one of the 21 the UNC has already selected a candidate for. So now I am expected to relinquish my candidacy in order to accommodate the same Panday that I detest?

Guess where I'll be on election day? Home watching real soap operas with professional actors playing the roles. Not this two bit sideshow you call democracy.

[snowbird]

Ok Peanut..so lemme get this straight, using a couple of hypotheticals...

Scenario a) I don't like Panday, and vowed that I would never vote for any party he leads. I was once UNC but now I've joined COP. Now you want my party to join UNC and for my vote to assist Panday in becoming PM again?

Scenario b) COP and UNC agree to accomodations. I happen to live in a constituency which the powers that be have decided will be contested by a UNC candidate, not a COP member. As in scenario a, above, you now expect my vote to go to Panday?

Scenario c) My leader, Winston Dookeran, has selected a candidate for each of the 41 seats. I am one of those candidates chosen. However, the constituency I am selected to vie for is one of the 21 the UNC has already selected a candidate for. So now I am expected to relinquish my candidacy in order to accommodate th same Panday that I detest?

Guess where I'll be on election day? Home watching real soap operas with professional actors playing the roles. Not this two bit sideshow you call democracy.


This is a classic case of Mickey Mouse Politics; here you have a country who knew they were going to the poles for months; yet you have a political party who professes to be the answer to all of Trinidad's woes still scrambling to see if they can launch some type of 'force to be reconed with'. It is really unfair to the supporters, and especially the potential candidates to put them through this type of silliness.

This SOS should really be going out to Basdeo Panday, the only person who stands in the way of that 'force' coming together.

[Maccogirl]

Have you for one moment ever thought that because of the lack of any kind of protest to move Bas there are more persons that want him to stay in the UNC than those that want him out? I agree protest if the talk is that he is the most hated man in this society he is the cause why PNM in power and the multitudes want him to go, don't have a Death March have a Move Panday March, and thousands want him out well lets see the thousands if the COP or Cadiz or whoever cant do that then they should all shut their traps and take their chances against the PNM. Better yet get Inshan Ishmeal to close down Central once again lets see its as simple as that.

[cm103]

Have you for one moment ever thought that because of the lack of any kind of protest to move Bas there are more persons that want him to stay in the UNC than those that want him out? I agree protest if the talk is that he is the most hated man in this society he is the cause why PNM in power and the multitudes want him to go, don't have a Death March have a Move Panday March, and thousands want him out well lets see the thousands if the COP or Cadiz or whoever cant do that then they should all shut their traps and take their chances against the PNM. Better yet get Inshan Ishmeal to close down Central once again lets see its as simple as that.

They're called COP supporters and they number in the thousands. Also you seem to be on top of your facts. Check back to see what percentage of the population previously surveyed supported an opposition alliance and Panday's approval rating for PM. They may be related.

I guarantee that if there is an alliance with the UNC with Panday still there, all those PNM supporters and previously undecided will run back to the PNM and not look back. Not to mention you may get your protests against it as well. The real protest action will come on 5th Nov with the way the voters decide.

[JediKnight]

Have you for one moment ever thought that because of the lack of any kind of protest to move Bas there are more persons that want him to stay in the UNC than those that want him out? I agree protest if the talk is that he is the most hated man in this society he is the cause why PNM in power and the multitudes want him to go, don't have a Death March have a Move Panday March, and thousands want him out well lets see the thousands if the COP or Cadiz or whoever cant do that then they should all shut their traps and take their chances against the PNM. Better yet get Inshan Ishmeal to close down Central once again lets see its as simple as that.

???? I agree with CM... that is why COP was born. And all yuh is de one with all de ultimatum 21 days, 48 hours etc. All yuh so dotish, all yuh tell de man go, when he go all yuh tell im come back because he might cause the PNM to get a constitutional majority. If Panday was not so drunk on power to see that last year... tough! It reminds me of the saying, don't know what you got till its gone! And de man with the mouth... de 21 days done! We doh have to start Move Panday March... if all yuh happy wit im and Ramesh support them, all ah all yuh deserve each odder. If we not winnin ah seat and we leader is duck and run how are we able to split votes? UNC is de greatest man, all 41, ah mean 39, ah mean 21 seats for dem. Jai Basdeo Panday (ah wonder what song Kamla singing now) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[JPersad]

Peanut ,
Basdeo Panday does not want unity .Basdeo Panday wants power !
They only way he can achieve that is through an accommodation with COP .

IF Panday really wants unity he will step aside .
Even the blind , deaf and dumb know that is not happening!

[vaio]

Peanut ,
Basdeo Panday does not want unity .Basdeo Panday wants power !
They only way he can achieve that is through an accommodation with COP .

IF Panday really wants unity he will step aside .
Even the blind , deaf and dumb know that is not happening!

I think even the dead know that as well :lol: :lol: