View Full Version : Would you Testify Against an Accused Killer in a Court ?
Scorpio
02-26-2008, 07:37 PM
Many of us who come to the crime and law board complain about the ridiculously high murder rate, but how many of us would testify against a murder accused in court ?
guyguy
02-26-2008, 07:49 PM
Many of us who come to the crime and law board complain about the ridiculously high murder rate, but how many of us would testify against a murder accused in court ?
If I witnessed the crime, he/she wouldn't even make it to court so no testimony would be necessary.
sylvestter
02-26-2008, 10:30 PM
i would have NO problem testifying.
citizen
02-26-2008, 10:34 PM
If I had faith in the justice system, I would testify.
If I had faith in police protection, I would testify.
But I don't in either case. So I would not testify.
Self preservation trumps any action which benefits the greater good.
Self preservation trumps any action which benefits the greater good.
Nope. Only a coward would live their life like that.
I'd testify. It's not about "self-preservation" (however you define that), or even about the "greater good." It's about showing justice for the person who was killed, for his or her story to be told. The police force and the judges can be what they are, you will be amply rewarded with karma and a clear conscious for your work.
Life is but a means to an end; it is not meant to be your primary concern.
citizen
02-27-2008, 06:34 AM
Breadwinner:
With all due respect I have to disagree.
A number of years ago, my wife's cousin was gunned down and killed on the Saturday evening before the Monday that he was due to testify, in spite of police protection. As a result, the killers went free. His story was never told.
We therefore had to put our faith in divine justice, rather than in police protection or the judiciary system.
For me, self preservation or survival comes first. This is not to say that I would not testify if the conditions were right (police and judiciary). However, given the existing situation in T&T, I would opt not to.
absolutely not....i am selfish if i want my family to not be gunned down or slaughtered before the hearing.
serenity
02-27-2008, 06:47 AM
Depends on who the accused is.
If its a regular 'man kill he wife' scene, sure.
If is gang-related, I'm leaning on yes.
If is Abu, hell no!
So things so off right now, I really cant blame ppl who say no.
There is drug dealer in my area. And every time I pass the house I wonder if I should make a report, if I should at least call the anonymous hotline. But there is always that fear that somehow the world will know is u who squealed. So, even though the whole of san juan who dis fella is a drug dealer, how many coming forward to say so? And that is where the police hands are tied.
(I did eventually make a report of sorts and there were police raids etc.)
KFCSpicy
02-27-2008, 07:56 AM
Can't say until I am faced with the problem. Trying to do the right thing does not always work out as being the right thing. Even the book of Proverbs have quotes on things like this:
Proverbs Chapter 3
3:25. Be not afraid of sudden fear, nor of the power of the wicked falling upon thee.
3:26. For the Lord will be at thy side, and will keep thy foot that thou be not taken.
3:27. Do not withhold him from doing good, who is able: if thou art able, do good thyself also.
Proverbs Chapter 14
14:16. A wise man feareth, and declineth from evil: the fool leapeth over, and is confident.
Proverbs Chapter 18
18:19. A brother that is helped by his brother, is like a strong city: and judgments are like the bars of cities.
18:20. Of the fruit of a man’s mouth shall his belly be satisfied: and the offspring of his lips shall fill him.
18:21. Death and life are in the power of the tongue: they that love it, shall eat the fruits thereof.
Proverbs Chapter 20
20:11. By his inclinations a child is known, if his works be clean and right.
20:12. The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the Lord hath made them both.
dancerboy
02-27-2008, 02:40 PM
i would have NO problem testifying. TALK IS CHEAP. A woman lost two of her sons in laventile, because they decided to testify at their brother's murder trial. NO offence meant , but if they kill any of your relative for testifying in court, you not going to testify.
:twisted:
DANCERBOY
dancerboy
02-27-2008, 02:46 PM
Self preservation trumps any action which benefits the greater good.
Nope. Only a coward would live their life like that.
I'd testify. It's not about "self-preservation" (however you define that), or even about the "greater good." It's about showing justice for the person who was killed, for his or her story to be told. The police force and the judges can be what they are, you will be amply rewarded with karma and a clear conscious for your work.
Life is but a means to an end; it is not meant to be your primary concern. I am sure yuh not ah coward, but if yuh live in TRINIDAD,(i don't know where u live), Do you have burglar proof on yuh house ?. I DON'T, and i am in BROOKLYN at meh daughter's house and she doesn't have any either.
DANCERBOY
guyguy
02-27-2008, 02:47 PM
i would have NO problem testifying. TALK IS CHEAP..., but if they kill any of your relative for testifying in court, you not going to testify.
:twisted:
DANCERBOY
Well breds, talk is NOT cheap when it comes to my family. As I stated before, if I witnessed the killing, then I will have no doubt in my mind who is the murderer. I will not have to testify. Hell, I won't even report it to the police. But, you can bet your bottom dollar that I will make it my lifelong mission to hunt down the murderer or have him/her hunted down, and take great pleasure while slowly, ever so slowly, torturing him/her to death. It will last at least a week.
Guy
dancerboy
02-27-2008, 11:18 PM
i would have NO problem testifying. TALK IS CHEAP..., but if they kill any of your relative for testifying in court, you not going to testify.
:twisted:
DANCERBOY
Well breds, talk is NOT cheap when it comes to my family. As I stated before, if I witnessed the killing, then I will have no doubt in my mind who is the murderer. I will not have to testify. Hell, I won't even report it to the police. But, you can bet your bottom dollar that I will make it my lifelong mission to hunt down the murderer or have him/her hunted down, and take great pleasure while slowly, ever so slowly, torturing him/her to death. It will last at least a week.
Guy
Back in my days, i would have personally handled it. But age brings reason. Thank god i have never had a relative murdered, so i cannot begin to articulate the feeling of the surviving family members. I was arrested for fighting on the train. I was always in a fight,and i am only 5ft 4ins. But do you think at 64, i want to go to jail, so unfortunately you leave it to justice system( whats left of it). But i keep a licensed firearm in my home, i do not travel with it, so at least i have a fighting chance, but what you go do in TRINIDAD. If you are a friend of the COP(POLICE) you could get a license. But that's an entirely new thread. By the way did you notice why the man got killed in PORT-OF SPAIN today. Then again i live in OCALA, things are a lot different here.
DANCERBOY
guyguy
02-28-2008, 01:01 AM
DANCERBOY breds,
There are many ways to skin a cat. I wouldn't want to end up in jail but I am certain that there are ways available to me to ensure that the perpetrator(s) do not live a long and healthy life - without me being implicated in any way. Ever see the original movie called The Thomas Crown Affair?
Well breds, talk is NOT cheap when it comes to my family. As I stated before, if I witnessed the killing, then I will have no doubt in my mind who is the murderer. I will not have to testify. Hell, I won't even report it to the police. But, you can bet your bottom dollar that I will make it my lifelong mission to hunt down the murderer or have him/her hunted down, and take great pleasure while slowly, ever so slowly, torturing him/her to death. It will last at least a week.
Guy
in that case...i will hire you...if, God forbid i ever have to hunt and torture someone for hurting a member of my family...
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