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serenity
02-11-2008, 06:08 PM
A Valentine thread: Tidbits on kissing -

Whatever else is going on when we kiss, our evolutionary history is embedded within this tender, tempestuous act. In the 1960s British zoologist and author Desmond Morris first proposed that kissing might have evolved from the practice in which primate mothers chewed food for their young and then fed them mouth-to-mouth, lips puckered. Chimpanzees feed in this manner, so our hominid ancestors probably did, too. Pressing outturned lips against lips may have then later developed as a way to comfort hungry children when food was scarce and, in time, to express love and affection in general. The human species might eventually have taken these proto-parental kisses down other roads until we came up with the more passionate varieties we have today.

We might also have inherited the intimate kiss from our primate ancestors. Bonobos, which are genetically very similar to us (although we are not their direct descendants), are a particularly passionate bunch, for example. Emory University primatologist Frans B. M. de Waal recalls a zookeeper who accepted what he thought would be a friendly kiss from one of the bonobos, until he felt the ape’s tongue in his mouth! :shock:

Human lips enjoy the slimmest layer of skin on the human body, and the lips are among the most densely populated with sensory neurons of any body region. When we kiss, these neurons, along with those in the tongue and mouth, rocket messages to the brain and body, setting off delightful sensations, intense emotions and physical reactions.

That said, kissing is probably not strictly necessary from an evolutionary point of view. Most other animals do not neck and still manage to produce plenty of offspring. Not even all humans kiss. At the turn of the 20th century Danish scientist Kristoffer Nyrop described Finnish tribes whose members bathed together but considered kissing indecent. :? In 1897 French anthropologist Paul d’Enjoy reported that the Chinese regard mouth-to-mouth kissing to be as horrifying as many people deem cannibalism to be. :shock: In Mongolia some fathers do not kiss their sons. (They smell their heads instead.)

In fact, up to 10 percent of humanity does not touch lips, according to human ethology pioneer Irenäus Eibl-Eibesfeldt, now head of the Max-Planck-Society Film Archive of Human Ethology in Andechs, Germany, writing in his 1970 book, Love and Hate: The Natural History of Behavior Patterns. Fisher published a similar figure in 1992. Their findings suggest that some 650 million members of the human species have not mastered the art of osculation, the scientific term for kissing; that is more than the population of any nation on earth except for China and India.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=aff ... print=true (http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=affairs-of-the-lips-why-we-kiss&print=true)

dancerboy
02-11-2008, 10:25 PM
If u want to read a good book by DESMOND MORRIS read ' THE NAKED APE'
DANCERBOY

KFCSpicy
02-12-2008, 07:56 AM
I doh like kissing my bf...he cyah understand why and I does be vague wid meh answers.

I love kissing only 3 people in my entire history of kissing. Kissing tooooo intimate and most people do it really spittily or badly or both.

bluenote492000
02-12-2008, 08:13 AM
My last bf was a smoker and trust me kissing a chain smoker is like licking an ashtray! In fact, I’d probably have had more fun with the ash tray :D

Falcon
02-12-2008, 09:23 AM
Serenity who is Chip Walter, the piece's author?

It is disingenuous in the extreme for him to make the comparison of bonobos and humans and claim relatedness with respect to traits, when in fact the more closely related chimpanzee would have actually represented the antithesis of what he is trying to say. Qualifying his argument by saying 'although not our direct ancestors' is like saying something damaging about a person, then following up with ' but that's what I've heard so don't quote me'.

Needless to say, I didnt read further on.
That's some research that deserves the Ignobel prize.

serenity
02-12-2008, 10:53 AM
Falcon, anybody ever tell u, u is a killjoy? :roll:

Falcon
02-12-2008, 11:14 AM
If a killjoy is someone who helps people separate the chaff from the wheat and therefore make informed judgements, then thanks. 8-)

snowbird
02-12-2008, 11:51 AM
Look ah doh need tuh read or study-up nuttin more bout kissin; an NO ah never in need of ah kiss.......
yuh see, ah hav meh own kissin machine right here :lol: ; yep, ah hav a little two year old grandchild dat love tuh kiss Nana; on de lips, on de cheek, on de forhead, on de hand, sometime she does even grab meh knee when ah washin wears and buss one kiss on it.
I love she too bad.

Aye, an have a good valemtines (as little one doz say) :lol:

skl
02-12-2008, 04:15 PM
this show on the history channel claimed that prior to the Roman Empire in Europe and the Near East rubbing noses was the proper way to express affection between two people.

conversly in the middle East kissing was considered chaste and completely unsexual..along the lines of a handshake which why men greet each other by kissing on the cheek.

and the Mongols never did develop kissing using smelling the neck to convey the same affaction.

Falcon
02-13-2008, 05:46 AM
I assume the Mongols learnt the neck thing from observing their horses.....maybe.

Middle Eastern countries still widely use the nose touching as a greeting; North Africans do the air kiss from 2 to about 5 times on alternate cheeks.

sheppy
02-13-2008, 09:34 AM
I thought nose rubbing was nordic or eskimos..and air kissing was northern european (french)

dancerboy
02-14-2008, 01:16 AM
Talking bout needing a kiss. Happy valentine KFC.

DANCERBOY :D

snowbird
02-14-2008, 01:24 AM
Happy Valentines Day to all.

Hey Dancer, ah see like me, yuh have yuh days and yuh nights mixed up :lol: Have ah good one, hope de Mrs. got home safe.

KFCSpicy
02-14-2008, 11:06 AM
Talking bout needing a kiss. Happy valentine KFC.

DANCERBOY :D


HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY TO YOU BABY BOY! KISSES ALL OVER DANCER. 8-)

dancerboy
02-15-2008, 01:28 AM
Happy Valentines Day to all.

Hey Dancer, ah see like me, yuh have yuh days and yuh nights mixed up :lol: Have ah good one, hope de Mrs. got home safe.
The MRS. got home safe, we had a little party last night, just finish. We will be heading to the BIG APPLE on sunday, returnung on monday the 25th. Meh dauhter going to CALIFORNIA on business. When u retire u doh worry bout days and nights.

DANCERBOY

snowbird
02-17-2008, 03:29 PM
Happy Valentines Day to all.

Hey Dancer, ah see like me, yuh have yuh days and yuh nights mixed up :lol: Have ah good one, hope de Mrs. got home safe.
The MRS. got home safe, we had a little party last night, just finish. We will be heading to the BIG APPLE on sunday, returnung on monday the 25th. Meh dauhter going to CALIFORNIA on business. When u retire u doh worry bout days and nights.
DANCERBOY

Yep, life is jus one...... LONG-WEEKEND :lol: enjoy