Vegetarians and Vegans?

[Triniboy108]

This topic is inspired by brag's thread titled: The Food We Eat? and it contains the following video:http://www.meat.org/

I was wondering if there are any vegetarians or vegans here?

If there is, please tell us why you chose to go veggie/vegan, and why you're happy for making that choice.

After watching that gruesome video, i really want to go veggie, plus this past week i haven't been eating meat, for both religious and personal issues, so i was already considering it, so this i just what i needed to make me go veggie!

[sapodila]

For many many years my diet consisted of fruits, vegetables, legumes. Later years I incorporated sea food and eggs because I was told that I was not receiving the "right " amount of proteins. Further later I went back to meat with regret. Every time I eat it, it would turn sour in my stomach and I would vomit. After seeing that video.....MY GOD! I am keeping to plants for now... until I find out that there is nothing else left to eat and drink in this world!

[brag]

Becoming a bretharian may be the best alternative because of all the things we are now using in creating our foods. I feel like I am ready to go back to the woods, and grow my own food.

[Falcon]

even God's rain is now polluted brag, how you wetting them plants?

Can I ask the thread starter or the 2nd poster if they believe that all farmed meat is abused.
If you care about what happens to the meat you eat, then eat free range. If you are concerned about the philospohy of eating meat, become vegetarian.
Vegans just on making style in my opinion. :mrgreen:

[Triniboy108]

Becoming a bretharian may be the best alternative because of all the things we are now using in creating our foods. I feel like I am ready to go back to the woods, and grow my own food.
what is a bretharian?

[Triniboy108]

Can I ask the thread starter or the 2nd poster if they believe that all farmed meat is abused.
If you care about what happens to the meat you eat, then eat free range. If you are concerned about the philosophy of eating meat, become vegetarian.
Vegans just on making style in my opinion. :mrgreen:

No Falcon, of course I don't think all farm animals are abused.

For one, it's very hard to find "free range" meat where I live, and secondly they're probably expensive.
Even if they were "free range" animals, they only live half their lives outdoors, which is better than nothing, but still not as good as being able to live their entire life so called "free range" style.

Well I'm looking at becoming a vegetarian from both the religious aspect, as well as the ethical and health reasons.

religious aspect:
One is dearest to God who has no enemies among the living beings, who is nonviolent to all creatures. -Bhagavad Gita

"Those sinful persons who are ignorant of actual religious principles, yet consider themselves to be completely pious, without compunction commit violence against innocent animals who are fully trusting in them. In their next lives, such sinful persons will be eaten by the same creatures they have killed in this world." -Bhagavata Purana 11.5.14

To become vegetarian is to step into the stream which leads to nirvana.
-Buddha

ethical aspect:
“For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love.”
-Pythagoras

“The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men.”
-Leonardo da Vinci

And I'm sure many people know that living a vegetarian life is much better for your health than a diet based on meat,fish, and eggs, and if not please look at the following websites:

http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/diet/vegetarian.htm

http://goveg.com/healthConcerns.asp


Oops..i hope i didn't sound like i was preaching.. :lol:

[Falcon]

preach away, because it adds yet another dimension to the discussion.

Eating intensively farmed meat because of the unavailability of free-range; or worse, the price of available free-range, is frankly weak. Free range animals spend time indoors because of mortality concerns due to weather and predation. Even the provision of an indoor roost/pen conforms to much more liberal heads per sq footage than intensive methods.

Religious reasons, fine. It's the 'ethical' and the 'health' reasons that will lead to great debate. :twisted:

[Mivo]

Half of my family is vegetarian and the other half is not, an cook vegetarian meals at home
Its easy an not have to worry about seperating pots/dishes etc.

[Triniboy108]

Half of my family is vegetarian and the other half is not, an cook vegetarian meals at home
Its easy an not have to worry about seperating pots/dishes etc.
i truly wish my family was like that! :(

[brag]

Triniboy108, we can all become models for our families by becoming vegans. It truly is a sacrifice in life, and it is worth the effort. When the other members of our families see the permanent happiness on our faces from our becoming vegans, doing all the preparations of our own meals by our own selves, and the happiness that goes with doing so, they would wonder what has become of us, and they would want the same for themselves.

Every single model of goodness we can offer to another person and the world makes the world a better place for all. Every single such model is not only for ourselves, but for all others. It takes only a little effort, patience and persistence, and presto we have developed a new lifestyle for ourself and others.

I went to the grocery store yesteday and was about to order a slice of lasagna which I am fond of, and after a few minutes, I realized that I had become a vegan anly a few weeks ago. Now I have to remind myself of it at all times.

[Triniboy108]

Triniboy108, we can all become models for our families by becoming vegans. It truly is a sacrifice in life, and it is worth the effort. When the other members of our families see the permanent happiness on our faces from our becoming vegans, doing all the preparations of our own meals by our own selves, and the happiness that goes with doing so, they would wonder what has become of us, and they would want the same for themselves.

Every single model of goodness we can offer to another person and the world makes the world a better place for all. Every single such model is not only for ourselves, but for all others. It takes only a little effort, patience and persistence, and presto we have developed a new lifestyle for ourself and others.

I went to the grocery store yesteday and was about to order a slice of lasagna which I am fond of, and after a few minutes, I realized that I had become a vegan anly a few weeks ago. Now I have to remind myself of it at all times.
Yes I totally agree with you!

Well I don't think I can ever give up drinking milk, so i'm just sticking to vegetarian and not vegan.

[sapodila]

Falcon..... when ah 'shoot' / 'bounce' ah deer ah go call yuh :lol: plenty running aroung 'free range ' where I live. Ah cyar bring myself to eat dat crap!

Folks... resort to two kitchens: one outside for the meat cook up /out and the other in de house.... keep it veggie......

[Solachica]

Does being Hindu = being vegetarian?
Becos I don't think so.
I have friends from India who are Hindu and aren't vegetarians and they said at Diwali time in India they don't fast etc as we do in TnT and on Diwali day people drink alcho and party etc in India. So when one of them experienced a Trini Diwali he said the fasting was something different to how they do it.

[sapodila]

Does being Hindu = being vegetarian?
Becos I don't think so.
I have friends from India who are Hindu and aren't vegetarians and they said at Diwali time in India they don't fast etc as we do in TnT and on Diwali day people drink alcho and party etc in India. So when one of them experienced a Trini Diwali he said the fasting was something different to how they do it.
Everyone has choices..... Sola.

A Hindu family from Trinidad choose to open a 'New York Fried Chicken' joint where I live on Diwali Day. I invited them over and they responded by saying that they are opening for business on that Day.

Another Hindu family from Trinidad choose to set the all 4s' match on Pitra-Paksha.....which off course break out in .........

Hey! To each his own!

[Triniboy108]

Does being Hindu = being vegetarian?
Becos I don't think so.
I have friends from India who are Hindu and aren't vegetarians and they said at Diwali time in India they don't fast etc as we do in TnT and on Diwali day people drink alcho and party etc in India. So when one of them experienced a Trini Diwali he said the fasting was something different to how they do it.
of course being a hindu doesn't equal being a vegetarian.

i think it just depends on your upbringing, and plus you have to remember each part of india has different cultures, they may all have the same religion, yet their culture is totally different, so you'll have people who eat meat, and people who don't eat meat. As well as people who celebrate Divali religiously, opposed to those who celebrate it as time to party.

[Scorpio]

I've been a pesco vegetarian almost all of my life, lately, I've been experimenting with a macro biotic diet, but still not sure if I will eventually go that route.

[Triniboy108]

I've been a pesco vegetarian almost all of my life, lately, I've been experimenting with a macro biotic diet, but still not sure if I will eventually go that route.
whoa...i'm lost...what's a pesco vegetarian, and what's a macro biotic diet? :shock:

[brag]

Here is a link that provides some interesting information about the kinds of vegetarian practices that may be out there. http://www.jtcwd.com/vegie/types.html

Different Types of Vegetarians.

Type1
Vegans:
They consume no animal flesh and avoid all foods of animal origin.

Type11
Lacto:
They consume no animal flesh but include dairy products in their diets.

Type 111
Ovo:
They consume no animal flesh but include eggs in their diets.

Type IV
Lacto-Ovo:
They consume no animal flesh, but include dairy products & eggs in their diets.

Type V
Pesco:
They include fish, eggs, and dairy products in their diets.

Please Note: Due to all the negative responses we receive by listing Pesco, we would like to express our feelings. We do not consider Pesco as a true vegetarian, as they still are consuming flesh, but we feel they are on the right path to becoming a true vegetarian all they have to do is just give it a little more thought.

[brag]

Triniboy108, here is a link that explains a macrobiotic diet. I am glad you asked, as it sent me searching for the meaning. I also did the same for the question on pesco vegetarian. How we need to keep up with the times!

http://altmedicine.about.com/od/popular ... biotic.htm (http://altmedicine.about.com/od/popularhealthdiets/a/Macrobiotic.htm)

"What is the Macrobiotic Diet?

The word "macrobiotic" comes from Greek roots and means "long life". The macrobiotic diet and philosophy were developed by a Japanese educator named George Ohsawa, who believed that simplicity was the key to optimal health.

The diet Ohsawa recommended included ten progressively restrictive stages. The last stage of Ohsawa's macrobiotic diet consisted only of brown rice and water. Due to its extreme restriction, Ohsawa's version of the macrobiotic diet is no longer recommended by macrobiotic diet counselors.

Michio Kushi expanded on Ohsawa's macrobiotic theory and opened the Kushi Institute in Boston in 1978. Together with his wife Aveline, Kushi published many books on macrobiotics and was responsible for popularizing the diet in North America.

Why do People Follow the Macrobiotic Diet?
Typically, people interested in the macrobiotic diet are seeking a healthy way of eating that integrates physical, spiritual, and planetary health.

The macrobiotic diet is a low-fat, high fiber diet that is a predominantly vegetarian diet, emphasizing whole grains and vegetables. In addition, the macrobiotic diet is rich in phytoestrogens from soy products.

Because low-fat, high fiber diets are often recommended for cancer and other chronic diseases, the macrobiotic diet has been used by people with these conditions. The phytoestrogen content may be protective and reduce the risk of estrogen-related cancers such as breast cancer. However, further research is needed to clarify whether the macrobiotic diet is effective in cancer prevention and treatment.

People with serious medical conditions such as cancer or AIDS should always seek proper medical care. Some people try the diet because they heard it can cure their disease, but reseach has not substantiated these claims....."
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