Cyber Bullies........ have you encountered any? (part 2)

[snowbird]

It would appear that the latest twist to the Cyber Bullying is the practice of children/students using the internet to bully each other.

It has been brought to the attention of some parents and teachers that this is now the latest form of bullying.

Whose responsibility do you think it would it be to address issues such as this?

[Chicabonita]

I think parents leave technology (internet, phones, etc) way too accessible for children these days and there is no control or responsibility on how this is being utilized. So I think is the responsibility of the parents to make sure they know what their kids do online.

[vaio]

parents need to get into their children's business....see what they are doing and check on them....

[snowbird]

parents need to get into their children's business....see what they are doing and check on them....

While I agree with having the computer in a common area so that you can keep an eye, especially on the younger children to make sure first and foremost that they are on safe sights, and also, not up to any mischief :lol: .

OK, but when you say check on them, would it be appropriate for say the parent of a teenager to have their pass word so that they can go into their e-mails to see what they are up to?

[snowbird]

Thanks Chica for reminding me about this thread..... I guess, in this case because it is happenign AMONG ADULTS..... I had forgotten about this thread... I will repeat my original post of part 2 here....since it wasn't transferred.

[snowbird]

By definition is it = " the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual or group, that is intended to harm others".

Have you experienced any instances of cyber bullying..... and if so, what do you think motivated the 'Bully'?


In my case I can share.....yes, I have experienced Cyber-Bullying.... the motivation I think is based on two things...

1. the 'Bully' appeared to be very a insecure person..... displayed many hang-ups .... and from the communications posted....carried around ....all kinds of 'lumber'

2. the only way the 'Bully' could find to build him/herself up...was by tearing others down.... the thing is though, the Bully would only pick on those who appeared to be ...grounded, secure in who they were... and comfortable in their skin....for some reason, the 'Bully' was threatened by this type of individual.

What was your experience?

[Chicabonita]

the thing is though, the Bully would only pick on those who appeared to be ...grounded, secure in who they were... and comfortable in their skin....for some reason, the 'Bully' was threatened by this type of individual.

What was your experience?

Interesting because in my observation the bullies actually picked on "weaker" individuals (or those who appear to be weak) or those who are sensitive (or in the extreme, thin skinned) and the bully know they will get a reaction from them.

But if you think about it, if the person is completely ignored they will look pretty stupid if they continue with the behavior but because the victim in these cases cannot help it and they do give a reaction then the whole thing becomes a vicious cycle, IMO.

[bigzack]

In my case I can share.....yes, I have experienced Cyber-Bullying.... the motivation I think is based on two things...

1. the 'Bully' appeared to be very a insecure person..... displayed many hang-ups .... and from the communications posted....carried around ....all kinds of 'lumber'

2. the only way the 'Bully' could find to build him/herself up...was by tearing others down.... the thing is though, the Bully would only pick on those who appeared to be ...grounded, secure in who they were... and comfortable in their skin....for some reason, the 'Bully' was threatened by this type of individual.

What was your experience?

Me ent hah no experience with cyber bullying because I is ah cyber badjohn.

But ah see ah cyber bully kick some cyber sand in ah cyber moderator face, then tun rong and cuss up he cyber mudder so and so.

The moderator was cyber grounded, and cyber secure in who he was.

I thought that I was on cyber George street that night.

That is de wuss case ah cyber bullying that I ever see.

To this day, the cyber bullyied ent show he face back on dah board.

But as Solachica did ask back on this same thread in 2008, before it was sanitized and pasteurized, "People does take themselves seriously on this board?"

And that is the crux of the problem.

If yuh chupid enough tuh mix yuh real life with yuh cyber life, so that yuh don't know yuh real persona from yuh cyber persona, then yuh need tuh see ah real psychiatriss.

[snowbird]

first chica.... bullies pick on anyone ..... as long as an opportunity presents itself, and they know they can get away with it.... the optimum word being .....Opportunity... the nature of Cyber Space allows these sick people to operate with impuntiy....after all, they know they never have to come 'face to face' with their chosen target..... Unlike a face to face encounter where their target knows them., and can look them in the eye....these people hide behind the walls of Cyber space....that is the only way they can muster up enough courge to continue....I am sure if you were to meet these people in person, you will find that they pass themselves off and ....wonderful upstanding people.... not the vermin that they are....

And yes, the way to dis-empower these people would be to ignore them....However human nature being what it is.... it is not easy ignoring them....especially when they continue to target you....even when you are not engaged in any dialogue with them. Your only recourse at that point would be to appeal to any decency in them to cease..... however, being the nature of the beast....sometimes that just does not work.

BZ.... my feeling is....ONCE is a mistake, twice a habit.... repeatedly simply reflects lifestyle or who you are.

I have seen people make A mistake.... immiediately see it as a gros mistake....admit that it was....apologize and move on.

I have also seem people who make it a habit of being offensive.... almost as though they were going from instinct.... in which case once it is pointed out to them that they are being offensive....they are remorseful and make every effort not to offend.

Then there are those who through some ignorance think they are entitled to be offensive to others.... for some reason this group thinks they are 'entitled' due to some series of circumstances..... these are the people who refuse to own up to their actions, rather than take responsibility for their bad behavoir....they will go into tangents of ....'but someone was worse than me'......for some reason they always catagorize themselves as being the 'best of the worse' ..... rather than at least striving for being 'the worse of the best (yes, there is a difference)
..... Truth be known, this is how this 'sick group' gets their 'jollies'.

I think it is that latter group that makes up the bulk of Cyber Bullies.... they have found a medium that allows them unbridled opportunity to continue with their 'bad behavoir'....and endless targets to choose from.

just my two cents.

[Angie]

There are a lot of programs set up to teach people about cyber bullying and it is unfortunate that the word is not being spread to assist people who are being cyber bullied. One such program in the US that I know of is "I-safe" which was founded in 1998 and approved by Congress.

Will find a link and post it later.

[bigzack]

Wey yuh get yuh PHd in Cyber Bullying from?

What University giving out dem degrees?

[Angie]

Wey yuh get yuh PHd in Cyber Bullying from?

What University giving out dem degrees?

Who dat yuh asking?

[bigzack]

Who dat yuh asking?

The wun that juss gih we ah whole thesis on Cyber Bullying.

[vaio]

it real easy to deal with a cyber bully esp here on ttol, jus click the iggy button lol

for kids on the other hand the matter is actually quite serious

[Angie]

Vai, at one time I had 11 people on ignore. The "click" of a mouse and dey went pooooooof.

[vaio]

its that easy! i dunno why more people doh make use of that wonderful button?!

[bigzack]

its that easy! i dunno why more people doh make use of that wonderful button?!

Because it have people that know what button tuh push.

When dey push de button and get dey pooch kicked in, then they does run and complain.

Sometimes, the fuss one that reach de station tuh make ah report is normally the one that start the whole thing.

Ah bacchanalist......is ah bacchanalist......is ah bacchanalist.

[snowbird]

its that easy! i dunno why more people doh make use of that wonderful button?!

Maybe because the intent on most forums.... is to interact with each other....civilly..... and there is always the hope that when a subject is posted that we speak to the topic and not get involved in personal jabs.....just for so.

I have been turned off of more good threads, or elected not to even participate simply because certain Cyber Bullies will derail a perfectly good thread..... just for so

....Generally I find those Cyber Bullies have very little to offer to the 'topic'.. offer next to nothing in terms of 'sharing' useful information..... or even giving a positive opinion.... it seems like their only interst in being in Cyber Space.... is to satisfy their sick need.... to display how ignorant, classless, and debasing they can be....they generally choose, and freely use expressions you and I would never consider..... again.... I guess ..... for effect....just for so...you'd have to wonder that if the Bully met you in person if he/she would be so potty mouth.... if not, then why do it in cyber space.... I just don't get it.

The sad part about it is that.... forums like this...offer these sick people just the type of platform they crave…. So I guess my further question is …..have any of you encountered any Cyber Bullies on any other forum….. I can only speak for this one…. And another that I was on briefly (when TTOL) was out of commission..

[Angie]

Snow, I have and sad to say it was the same people who were here I met on other forums. I have also met 2 on "pogo" where I have been a member for 8 years, and have over 200 friends, some of whom I have met personally.

[Chicabonita]

Maybe I live a highly stressful life right now (long story) but I cannot even start comprehending getting upset or "studying" these cyber bullies you all talking about here.

[bigzack]

I was brought up to respect authority.

That is wey I does show mih broughtupsy and decorum.

Without authority, we would have mayhem and anarchy.

But chupid me did never know that it have people that could disrespect and cuss authority, until I see ah poster leggo some "mother so and so" in ah moderator pweffen one night.

When ah read that litany ah cuss so, ah get frighten. Mih hand start tuh shake on mih mouse. Ah thought we had ah earthquake. Ah say, "God father, help mih, ah too young tuh hah shaking hands like this".

Is then I know that it have cyber lunatics, and them wuss than cyber bullies.

At least ah cyber bully does maintain some measure of cyber sanity.

Ah cussbudding cyber lunatic does lose it all.

[saltwater]

I find PNM hooligans does excel in cyber bullying

[Amelia]

Dunno any cyber bullies...or maybe I havent recognised them as such.
I have encountered one with the potential to bully, but then he became my best friend, so...

[bigzack]

I find PNM hooligans does excel in cyber bullying

Fuhget the cyber "bul" part, UNC hooligans does just plain excel in lying.

[saltwater]

Are you offended by my observation?

[bigzack]

Are you offended by my observation?

If you have cokey eye, why should I be offended?

[vaio]

i am online for fun and to relieve work stress which is why i am usually online during work hours lol but i doh take anything that people say in here too seriously. Yea, i've met a few people who i like and some i've not met yet and may never meet, but if i come here and get 'bullied' as some claim, then why would i continue to come here to get stress?

May be my life to busy to take on cyber life too much :dontknow:

[bigzack]

i am online for fun and to relieve work stress which is why i am usually online during work hours lol but i doh take anything that people say in here too seriously. Yea, i've met a few people who i like and some i've not met yet and may never meet, but if i come here and get 'bullied' as some claim, then why would i continue to come here to get stress?

May be my life to busy to take on cyber life too much :dontknow:

Some ah them "bullyees" have ah axe tuh grind with my country.

So when they come here with they biassed chupidness and abject hypocrisy, is cyber lahti fuh them.

[vaio]

lol zacky yuh sounding like a bully :blink

[snowbird]

I was brought up to respect authority.

That is wey I does show mih broughtupsy and decorum.

Without authority, we would have mayhem and anarchy.

But chupid me did never know that it have people that could disrespect and cuss authority, until I see ah poster leggo some "mother so and so" in ah moderator pweffen one night.

When ah read that litany ah cuss so, ah get frighten. Mih hand start tuh shake on mih mouse. Ah thought we had ah earthquake. Ah say, "God father, help mih, ah too young tuh hah shaking hands like this".

Is then I know that it have cyber lunatics, and them wuss than cyber bullies.

At least ah cyber bully does maintain some measure of cyber sanity.

Ah cussbudding cyber lunatic does lose it all.

In masa day respect is something that was 'demanded' or commanded (and it would appear some have not moved on from that day)..... respect was expected to be given simply because the person had a title....or held an office.
Unfortunately there are some today who are still pompos enough to think that they 'automatically get respect' simply because they fill a role (and the sad part is they will do everything possible to get the role....even lobby openly)...look at your T&T politicians....some of them are as classless as the hooligans on the street...yet they expect to be ...respected.

The sad part is ....these people 'covet positions' simply because other misguided peers actually see them in a position of reverence once the attain this 'title' (so silly) ...they speak of them in terms of .... Oh higher and exhaulted one" ..... Come-on...these people are mere mortals ..... just like us...let's throw off the shackles of colonialism..... and not pay homage where homage isn't due.

.... In my world.... respect has to be earned, and the way you earn it is by being respectful yourself .....I have encountered a few people in my life who do not warrent my respect..... with the exception of ONE INSTANCE ON THIS FORUM (if it were something I did on a regular basis....even more than once....I am sure I would have been banned for it...Mr. Pot)

....I generally try to be civil in my expressions..... yes, I love the Trini venecular..... but I draw the line at using obscenities in my regular conversations and communications..... Yes, I can assume a pesona.... but being common and vulgar will neve be part of any persona of mine.....'neither will being a Cyber Bully'.... an eh dat good at being mean.

[snowbird]

Some ah them "bullyees" have ah axe tuh grind with my country.

So when they come here with they biassed chupidness and abject hypocrisy, is cyber lahti fuh them.

Your country must be so proud that you go to such extremes to defend it's integrity... You may want to take note how others defend their country with civility....even dignity/


Anyway, would love to her from others on the subject of cyber bullying..... I would even like to hear from those others who also think there is a very good reasons why they should continue to engage in Cyber Bullying..... let's hear your excuse....ooops story.

[bigzack]

If the ex-moderator didn't still fraid the cyber cussbud here on TTOL, he woulda come back and tell we how it feel tuh be bullied.

[bigzack]

lol zacky yuh sounding like a bully :blink

Me ent no bully, but I ent sitting back and let no fresh water yankee, or fresh water canuck, constantly come here with they "double standarding" hypocrisy, and bad talk my country.

I ent borrow Trinidad and Tobago yuh know.

Mih barn dey.

[riverlime4so]

It is truly sad that over the last ten years, the easy availability of Internet access has allowed anyone with an axe to grind, or with a general sense of "DohKayDam" about their fellow people, to troll forums.

After spam, this is the second most annoying thing on the internet.

For a taste of the depths to which people will sink, check the responses to articles on the online Express.
I keep wondering how some of them get past the mods.

Unfortunately, this sort of thing is done mostly by the ignorant and illiterate.
Also unfortunately, there are some otherwise smart people for whom hiding behind anonymity in order to guttersnipe is a godsend.
It reveals to themselves their true character.

The Social Networking craze of the past few months is another breeding ground for the shallow, vain and illiterate.
While these networks have the potential to revolutionise modern global communications, this is rapidly being offset by the amount of online garbage.

Just like there are two types of car drivers, the considerate and the a-holes, so too, Forum posters worldwide.

Unless moderators develop Stalinesque policies like on this forum, do you see this changing? Neither do I.

[riverlime4so]

Mih barn dey.



Reminds me of a Guyanese guy I was talking to a few months ago.
When asked what he was doing in Trinidad, he replied:

"Mih bard de rang plane, man."

Ah nearly dead laffing.

[bigzack]

Ah like this dig Rivers.

Oh shot boy!!!!!


Unless moderators develop Stalinesque policies like on this forum, do you see this changing? Neither do I.

De man name is Falcon, not Stalin.

[riverlime4so]

Ah kyar say dat, Zack. That might be construed as dis-respeck.
Like yuh want me to get sent to the TTOL Gulag?

[snowbird]

like you said riverlime4so.....many join, and stay on forums such as these....because they have an axe to grind.

...they act in a disrespectful way...then wonder why no one respects them in return....truly sad, but you are correct...rudness is becoming the new norm on these social networks....why? every time you see a rude post.... you can bet there will be a few more...cheering the moron on....too sad.

[bigzack]

Ah kyar say dat, Zack. That might be construed as dis-respeck.
Like yuh want me to get sent to the TTOL Gulag?

Rivers, I not advising yuh to do it eh, because Gopaul luck ent Seepaul luck.

But it have people here that dis-respeck and cuss moderator mudder so-and-so, and them never get sent to the TTOL Gulag.

[riverlime4so]

Ah wonder what them Buller street residents have to say about these bull-ees.

[saltwater]

If you have cokey eye, why should I be offended?
Great, so I will be pointing out my observations more often.
ps my eyes very cokey. I does be looking straight and all I does see is PNM hooligan.

[bigzack]

I does be looking straight and all I does see is PNM hooligan.

Straight up or straight down?

[snowbird]

Rivers, I not advising yuh to do it eh, because Gopaul luck ent Seepaul luck.

But it have people here that dis-respeck and cuss moderator mudder so-and-so, and them never get sent to the TTOL Gulag.

If memory serves me correctly.... the 'offender in question' lol didn't insult anyone's mother or relative for that matter.... If memory serves me correctly.... the 'offender'..... made a suggestion that said moderator engage in a 'self action' that was ...physically impossible.... but I may be wrong....

Anyway.... it looks like another otherwise good thread has been derailed....

I gone.... Mods...feel free to do your thing.....

[bigzack]

Anyway.... it looks like another otherwise good thread has been derailed....

I gone.... Mods...feel free to do your thing.....

Ah good thread, started with ah bad minded intention.

But ah muss say that at least this time the thread had more decorum than when it was first started in 2008.

Back then, it had real war between ah poster called Peanut and another female poster.

[saltwater]

Snow the thred is not derailed unless you want it to be. Make yr case and be prepared to defend yr case, keep in mind is a trini forum and you will get trini "talks".
I happen to agree with yr case, even though you doh want to come out in the open and say it, Mr Big is a cyperbull and he does stalk you to make sure you get a taste of his cyberbulling, and he happen to excel at it.
Ole talk, trini picong, jokes aside, cyberstalking is not pleasant and I sympathise with your case. Idn why the PNM doh keep some cyberstalk rehab classes targeting their most vulnerable supporters. I tink I will petition the UNC to fund this yes, is a good cause.

[saltwater]

Straight up or straight down?
straight at you..

[Falcon]

Zakky, Rivers, how my name reach in allyuh cyber bullying thread??!!

Zakky, Snow think you mean she; I think you mean Scrapy....which is it?

[Falcon]

ok guys, sorry- dont answer that.......Snow requested the thread be closed.