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JPersad
10-07-2007, 09:28 AM
To forumites who have the ways and means , please keep us informed on this rally at the Mid Center Mall today.
Thanx
JP
Since YesTT pull out I wondering of the UNCA has been able to find replacment candidates for Diego East, Tunapuna etc
JPersad
10-07-2007, 09:43 AM
Since YesTT pull out I wondering of the UNCA has been able to find replacment candidates for Diego East, Tunapuna etc
Panday could choose from Maccogirl , LIght and dat Slayer fella ( who feel he is ah badjohn.)
Seriously though , good question .
slayerdave
10-07-2007, 09:56 AM
Since YesTT pull out I wondering of the UNCA has been able to find replacment candidates for Diego East, Tunapuna etc
Panday could choose from Maccogirl , LIght and dat Slayer fella ( who feel he is ah badjohn.)
Seriously though , good question .
new politics....you spineless sycophant.
JPersad
10-07-2007, 09:59 AM
Since YesTT pull out I wondering of the UNCA has been able to find replacment candidates for Diego East, Tunapuna etc
Panday could choose from Maccogirl , LIght and dat Slayer fella ( who feel he is ah badjohn.)
Seriously though , good question .
new politics....you spineless sycophant.
WOW ! Now I am scared .
slayerdave
10-07-2007, 10:03 AM
WOW ! Now I am scared .
Let me guess you going to duck and run now............
snowbird
10-07-2007, 11:17 AM
Since YesTT pull out I wondering of the UNCA has been able to find replacment candidates for Diego East, Tunapuna etc
Yep. ;)
Sumana
10-07-2007, 11:20 AM
(8) Don't but the blame on me, u shudda vote for the UNC (8)
saltwater
10-07-2007, 01:28 PM
Which station bringing it live.
Falcon
10-07-2007, 02:18 PM
slayerdave, check yuhself.
sylvestter
10-07-2007, 02:29 PM
it should be live at 2.30 on http://www.wintvworld.com
saltwater
10-07-2007, 02:46 PM
Thks Sylvester.
It also coming live on radio shakti and power 101.7.
Power 101.7 say the crowd is massive and growing.
sylvestter
10-07-2007, 02:54 PM
apparently they hired a production company to provide a uniform live feed for all the local stations. they bought live airtime on cnc3, tv6, c, gayelle and wintv.
Good lord, dem must be spend real money. Dey rent-out Gayelle to show dey rally, and it look like they rent some radio station too. All dem ballon and music people eh free either.
saltwater
10-07-2007, 03:22 PM
UNC A putting on a good show. The crowd is massive. The place is packed. Chaguanas is on fire
knives
10-07-2007, 03:28 PM
Biggest rally of the weekend by far it seems. Definitely a huge surprise to everyone.
Latest rumor i hearing is UNC only contesting 21 seats? COP-UNC alliance in the making then?
saltwater
10-07-2007, 03:35 PM
For all the people who say UNCA ded..eat your damn hearts out. UNCA is alive and on fire.
cm103
10-07-2007, 03:43 PM
For all the people who say UNCA ded..eat your damn hearts out. UNCA is alive and on fire.
And lead by a power hungry dictator....doh forget that part.
Rally is no election, the polls will do the talking. Plenty time for Bas to mess it up more.
Ramesh: "COP's mission is to wipe out and kill the UNC"
It goin an happen, doh worry :D
Ramesh: "COP's mission is to wipe out and kill the UNC"
It goin an happen, doh worry :D
somebody should ask him what Team unity's mission was.
cm103
10-07-2007, 03:50 PM
Ramesh: "COP's mission is to wipe out and kill the UNC"
It goin an happen, doh worry :D
I don't think the UNC need anyone help in doing that.
UNCA supporters, you'll want a PM who on trial for corruption? Or a man who still can't explain what happen to all the world cup money? What is the real plan here?
saltwater
10-07-2007, 03:51 PM
For all the people who say UNCA ded..eat your damn hearts out. UNCA is alive and on fire.
And lead by a power hungry dictator....doh forget that part.
Rally is no election, the polls will do the talking. Plenty time for Bas to mess it up more.
Lissen to the rally nah and report the good things that happening. UNCA on fire.
saltwater
10-07-2007, 03:53 PM
I know how much it hutting all ya COP supporters. Have patience and listen.
but Macco tell me dozens of times --" crowd dont win seats" . You saying Macco wrong ? :P
I know how much it hutting all ya COP supporters. Have patience and listen.
Pardner, this kind of surreal. De man they was calling "Judas" a year ago, somehow come a feature speaker. How you really expect people to listen him with a serious face?
Oh lord, he going and talk about COP now :)
edit: :D , he, of all people, calling de COP traitors. :D
peanut
10-07-2007, 04:01 PM
Ramesh is very impressive, very stimulating and a damn good motivational speaker!
cm103
10-07-2007, 04:02 PM
For all the people who say UNCA ded..eat your damn hearts out. UNCA is alive and on fire.
And lead by a power hungry dictator....doh forget that part.
Rally is no election, the polls will do the talking. Plenty time for Bas to mess it up more.
Lissen to the rally nah and report the good things that happening. UNCA on fire.
I supported the UNC in the past against the PNM but they are now too much one man and not enough party or country minded.
No UNCA supporter has ever been able to answer the questions I have asked above. Panday is hellbent on only bad talking other parties and retaining power for his own gain. There is nothing new and we will remain in the same rut while he settles his own political agendas if he is elected into office.
I maintain that rally attendance is no substitute for performance in the polls, the UNCA is not alive but just a jump-and-wine session session on a Sunday.
saltwater
10-07-2007, 04:12 PM
cm103 I doh have time to read yr long post. Lissen go and get some UNCA vibes. They announcing Kamla..the crowd gone wild..lord UNCA on firrrre.
peanut
10-07-2007, 04:15 PM
Ah go tell all yuh something, if and ah saying if the UNC-A does right by Kamla today and give her the opportunity to become the PM of T&T if they win ...... UNC-A will get my fullest support.
Scorpio
10-07-2007, 04:16 PM
Ramesh: "COP's mission is to wipe out and kill the UNC"
It goin an happen, doh worry :D
somebody should ask him what Team unity's mission was.
^^^ Yeah, that's the first question that came to my mind. :D
cm103
10-07-2007, 04:19 PM
cm103 I doh have time to read yr long post. Lissen go and get some UNCA vibes. They announcing Kamla..the crowd gone wild..lord UNCA on firrrre.
Don't need vibes or crowd pleasers. If you don't have the answers then just say so, your party is no different. Enjoy yourself, the real party already done with their rally and down to business now.
How much longer will Kamla hold out for some table scraps from her power hungry leader? Add that to the list of unanswered questions I've asked of the UNCA supporters.
peanut: If that happens then I would say that they do have some sort of hope. Panday brings nothing new to the party and those that support his brand of politics are blind to everything else.
Scorpio
10-07-2007, 04:21 PM
Ah go tell all yuh something, if and ah saying if the UNC-A does right by Kamla today and give her the opportunity to become the PM of T&T if they win ...... UNC-A will get my fullest support.
Panday will never let anybody else lead UNC, even Jack better watch he back.
Kamla sounds like she on de verge of crying. She trying to sound strong, but it eh coming out so :|
peanut
10-07-2007, 04:30 PM
She is sounding as if she is giving a farewell speech.
intersting speech
"bandaged head" 'betrayal" 'the only woman in a boys club" "I didnt leave"
notice she saying she staying becuase of the party, which is a change from "My only leader is Panday"
King B
10-07-2007, 04:37 PM
She is sounding pretty strong to me. Kamla is by far the most credible candidate for leadership of the UNC. Probably why Bas is keeping her at arm's length.
Solachica
10-07-2007, 04:46 PM
She sounding normal.
She talking like she is the mother of the nation now.
Who is oma panday? Why she does always be on stage and at head tables? She joined to panday by the hip? She fraid she lost? She is panday nurse?
How come you don't see any of the other peoples husband or wives on stage and at head tables? :?
peanut
10-07-2007, 04:47 PM
They are only presenting 21 Candidates. The other 18 will be presented on Friday by Caura Junction.
do not think of me as weak
I am a woman awoken
I thought hard work and loyalty would be enough
I rejecting the Presidency !!!
You all are my leaders (she mention Bas at all ?)
King B
10-07-2007, 04:51 PM
Allyuh eh find dat Khadijja chick kinna cute? Sumana, hook meh up nah gyul.
peanut
10-07-2007, 04:53 PM
KBB, yuh eh see Richard Wm Thomas aka Twrich on stage? Holy crap ... Prakash Williams is a candidate, so is Winston
King B
10-07-2007, 04:55 PM
I hope none of them have future plans for their deposit money yes.
lou_uk
10-07-2007, 04:57 PM
Ah go tell all yuh something, if and ah saying if the UNC-A does right by Kamla today and give her the opportunity to become the PM of T&T if they win ...... UNC-A will get my fullest support.
Yuh jump ship? What say Lingo "2day"? :D
peanut
10-07-2007, 05:00 PM
Ah go tell all yuh something, if and ah saying if the UNC-A does right by Kamla today and give her the opportunity to become the PM of T&T if they win ...... UNC-A will get my fullest support.
Yuh jump ship? What say Lingo "2day"? :D
HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!
saltwater
10-07-2007, 05:03 PM
She is sounding as if she is giving a farewell speech.
She sounded like she telling the UNC men and she supporters that I am woman, i am strong, I didnot betray you, I smart, I wukk hard and I ready to be the PM.
lou_uk
10-07-2007, 05:04 PM
Allyuh eh find dat Khadijja chick kinna cute? Sumana, hook meh up nah gyul.
lol one ah dem candidates, ah nice darkie have ah real nice body sa, Sumanaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! :D
She is sounding as if she is giving a farewell speech.
She sounded like she telling the UNC men and she supporters that I am woman, i am strong, I didnot betray you, I smart, I wukk hard and I ready to be the PM.
She could be ready all she want. Bas not letting any Indian not name Panday become PM
saltwater
10-07-2007, 05:08 PM
Ah go tell all yuh something, if and ah saying if the UNC-A does right by Kamla today and give her the opportunity to become the PM of T&T if they win ...... UNC-A will get my fullest support.
Peanut is dat you gyal.
The UNCA welcome you with open arms. Tell all ya unenlightened sistrens and brethens that you have seen the light in the rising sun. Come back home.
UNCA ON FIRE.
peanut
10-07-2007, 05:09 PM
YEAH IS ME SALT! THANK YOU FOR THE WELCOME BACK!
saltwater
10-07-2007, 05:10 PM
The announcer jus say the police estimate the crowd to be 45,000. 6 times more that the COP and 2 times more than the PNM.
The announcer jus say the police estimate the crowd to be 45,000. 6 times more that the COP and 2 times more than the PNM.
The police estimated the COP crowd at 30,000 and the PNM at 40,000
saltwater
10-07-2007, 05:12 PM
but Macco tell me dozens of times --" crowd dont win seats" . You saying Macco wrong ? :P
skl you go have to ask macco that. I am sure you will enjoy the ansa.
lou_uk
10-07-2007, 05:13 PM
YEAH IS ME SALT! THANK YOU FOR THE WELCOME BACK!
But Peanut, yuh eh see how much children dey? :D
saltwater
10-07-2007, 05:16 PM
Kamla say to the COPs she Nah leaving..she love she party and she love she country..she nah leaving...she here to stay.
She was very impressive. The people love her. She sounded like she she was saying she ready for the position of PM. She say when things did not go her way she stayed in the party she did not leave. When her colleagues displayed their macho attitude she took it with a smile. PNM tell her 3 yrs ago they have an offer she cannot refuse, she did not budge.
Now the newspaper saying she was offered the position of president but that is a lie. She said that if she is offered that position she will have to say no because she is a representative of the people and that is her calling.
peanut
10-07-2007, 05:19 PM
YEAH IS ME SALT! THANK YOU FOR THE WELCOME BACK!
But Peanut, yuh eh see how much children dey? :D
Hear nah, I have ridden with Bas since 2001 and was one of those who was very frustrated with what was going on in MY Party. The straw that buckled me was when Kamla was sidelined.
Today she has convinced me to come back home to the UNC and I will say as I have been saying all along except for the past 4 days I RIDING WITH BAS!
lou_uk
10-07-2007, 05:20 PM
Jack Warner just said he wants $1 pay a month if they win or form the Opposition. Is it legal to work under minimum wage? lol
King B
10-07-2007, 05:21 PM
With that kind of fickle support allyuh sure to win. :roll:
peanut
10-07-2007, 05:22 PM
Jack say if the party wins and he win his seat, he wants $1 a month as pay with no allowances, and if in the second year they find he wukking good then raise he pay to $2.
lou_uk
10-07-2007, 05:22 PM
YEAH IS ME SALT! THANK YOU FOR THE WELCOME BACK!
But Peanut, yuh eh see how much children dey? :D
Hear nah, I have ridden with Bas since 2001 and was one of those who was very frustrated with what was going on in MY Party. The straw that buckled me was when Kamla was sidelined.
Today she has convinced me to come back home to the UNC and I will say as I have been saying all along except for the past 4 days I RIDING WITH BAS!
You mean jackbas? lol
cm103
10-07-2007, 05:23 PM
I really wonder if the UNCA supporters actually believe that Kamla will be appointed PM if her party wins the elections. Bas mind change as soon as Jack say he want the post and Bas done say he want another go at it. Only one post and 3 people want it. Dodge these facts all you want, they not going away.
Anyways, they could keep they commess. I voting for the party that actually have time to concentrate on the country.
peanut
10-07-2007, 05:23 PM
With that kind of fickle support allyuh sure to win. :roll:
KBB, YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN A UNC SUPPORTER so DOH EVEN GO THERE!
Solachica
10-07-2007, 05:25 PM
Talking abt crowd size I know a couple of people who were forced to go. So crowds don't mean real supporters eh.
A woman running the urp gang told some young people tht I know tht they have to go otherwise she is the one who takes names for work and if they don't go then no wuk for them.
So of course they agreed to go and ytday evening unc tshirt reach for them at their house and this morning they had maxi picking them up.
lou_uk
10-07-2007, 05:26 PM
With that kind of fickle support allyuh sure to win. :roll:
KBB, YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN A UNC SUPPORTER so DOH EVEN GO THERE!
Dookeran needs you peanut :D
King B
10-07-2007, 05:30 PM
Why are there mocco jumbies at political rallies? What de hell is that about? :x
Solachica
10-07-2007, 05:34 PM
Who running for Oropouche West?
peanut
10-07-2007, 05:34 PM
Why are there mocco jumbies at political rallies? What de hell is that about? :x
Why yuh doh ask Manning, it had dem at the PNM rally yesterday :roll: :roll:
Who running for Oropouche West?
to be announced on Friday.
UNC going to be holding a second rally on Friday to announce the remaining 18 candidates.
King B
10-07-2007, 05:37 PM
Yuh know ah was refering to all political rallies. Why allyuh UNC, no wait, COP, no wait, UNC, no wait, COP, no wait, UNC supporters so sensitive? :D
lou_uk
10-07-2007, 05:37 PM
The shot from the air look like Mid Centre Mall had a heavy nose bleed. :o
That is people sa... next thing dey going say most ah dem living within walking distance :lol:
peanut
10-07-2007, 05:38 PM
Yuh know ah was refering to all political rallies. Why allyuh UNC, no wait, COP, no wait, UNC, no wait, COP, no wait, UNC supporters so sensitive? :D
ah chups man :D :D :D :D
Solachica
10-07-2007, 05:40 PM
Who running for Oropouche West?
to be announced on Friday.
UNC going to be holding a second rally on Friday to announce the remaining 18 candidates.
Oh ok.
Becos I live in tht constituency and was hearing tht Pandays daughter wud be running for this seat.
Wud see :?
Solachica
10-07-2007, 05:44 PM
propose tht kamla be head of contingent of army of unc.
Haha. Head of womens arm?
Ramesh be appointed special advisor on crime and public safety? :lol:
peanut
10-07-2007, 05:44 PM
Kamla for the position of the head of the woman's contingency of the women's arm of the Alliance. Ramesh as special advisor for crime
Panday jokey.
Kamla special role is ...... women's league leader ?
oh and I see the other neemakaram RLM get back in.
Solachica
10-07-2007, 05:47 PM
Price is right come down? :lol:
Wht kinda major plan is tht for her? They chucking she off to lead a womens arm of unc? :lol:
She can't lead everyone? :?
and now they have a 8 man leadership council .
I M Back
10-07-2007, 05:49 PM
Wait!
Jpersad gone back UNC?
that neemakharam!
peanut
10-07-2007, 05:51 PM
Wait!
Jpersad gone back UNC?
that neemakharam!
:D :D :D :D
I M Back
10-07-2007, 05:59 PM
Wait!
Jpersad gone back UNC?
that neemakharam!
:D :D :D :D
Share the joke? :?
Solachica
10-07-2007, 06:05 PM
Wht is tht on yuh head I M Back?
Solachica
10-07-2007, 06:13 PM
Who was tht feller who singing tht Akon sounding song? He can't even sing to his own song? :?
Yuh think Akon cud sue him?
Chutney elvis ?
I M Back
10-07-2007, 06:16 PM
Wht is tht on yuh head I M Back?
That is ah summers cap...but, please stick to the topic....
...jpersad is ah neemakharam, looking for love, second time around. 8-)
King B
10-07-2007, 06:20 PM
OK, this entertainment thing getting surreal now...
I M Back
10-07-2007, 06:22 PM
audio or video link?
JPersad
10-07-2007, 06:22 PM
Wait!
Jpersad gone back UNC?
that neemakharam!
Hell NO !!
COP all the way !
Sirius
10-07-2007, 06:24 PM
Surprisingly large turnout. With all the attractions I expected a large crowd consisting of both UNCA supporters and people there just for the fete...but I have to admit they did well. It went downhill for me when Panday went up and start to bawl corpse this and corpse that, and then said he was making Kamla...head of the women's arm of the UNC army? Eh? Dais it? They really need to keep that man away from the microphone.
Allyuh realize what happening here right? UNCA getting a huge following. COP getting not as large a following, but still a significant one. PNM will still come out on top. Panday has done two things that seriously jeopardize any chance of serious accommodation talks with the COP. The only way not to split the vote is to stop acting like children. If Panday had made Kamla UNC leader and not spewed his corpse nonsense I would be ready to get on my soapbox about Dookeran if he eh sit down to talks with the UNCA. Now as it stands, if Dookeran say once again he not entertaining talks with the UNCA, I will say the UNCA look fuh dat.
They have promise u know. But Panday mashing it up at the same time. Steups.
I M Back
10-07-2007, 06:27 PM
Wait!
Jpersad gone back UNC?
that neemakharam!
Hell NO !!
COP all the way !
Not even if Ramesh gets into the UNC fold? ;)
JPersad
10-07-2007, 06:32 PM
[quote="I M Back":e9f64]Wait!
Jpersad gone back UNC?
that neemakharam!
Hell NO !!
COP all the way !
Not even if Ramesh gets into the UNC fold? ;)[/quote:e9f64]
Not even if RLM gets to lead the UNC at this point .
Sorry , but in my eyes UNC is a bad joke that makes a mockery of its supporters with the antics of Basdeo Panday .
saltwater
10-07-2007, 06:56 PM
I listening to the radio, daiz shakti, and some callers say they going back to the UNC
lou_uk
10-07-2007, 07:26 PM
I listening to the radio, daiz shakti, and some callers say they going back to the UNC
The amazing thing about this is that the UNCA created a great illusion. They know how to play the game. It was a fantastic show but not convincing to me. The politics got lost in there somewhere. Martin Luther King's son had a decent speech about the thermometer and the thermostat in regulating the course of history. The guy from the Ghandi Foudation seemed to be overwhelmed by the occassion.
The entertainment, presentation was spot on. I enjoyed it.
cm103
10-07-2007, 07:36 PM
I listening to the radio, daiz shakti, and some callers say they going back to the UNC
The amazing thing about this is that the UNCA created a great illusion. They know how to play the game. It was a fantastic show but not convincing to me. The politics got lost in there somewhere. Martin Luther King's son had a decent speech about the thermometer and the thermostat in regulating the course of history. The guy from the Ghandi Foudation seemed to be overwhelmed by the occassion.
The entertainment, presentation was spot on. I enjoyed it.
I did end up watching it and can agree. A lot of flash but little substance. There are too many questions and potential problems in re-electing a UNC party back into power at this time.
All those voters who said they were going back will prob make the switch again before the polls. The UNC basically have enough rope to hang themselves at this point.
Sumana
10-07-2007, 07:58 PM
UNC A putting on a good show. The crowd is massive. The place is packed. Chaguanas is on fire
fireeeeeeeee is rightttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt :) Just got back 45K people and ah COP councillor call us and tell us, how COP only had 7K ;)
Sumana
10-07-2007, 08:00 PM
She is sounding as if she is giving a farewell speech.
She sounded like she telling the UNC men and she supporters that I am woman, i am strong, I didnot betray you, I smart, I wukk hard and I ready to be the PM.
DAmn straight DAT IS WOMAN!!!!!!!!!
peanut
10-07-2007, 08:05 PM
She is sounding as if she is giving a farewell speech.
She sounded like she telling the UNC men and she supporters that I am woman, i am strong, I didnot betray you, I smart, I wukk hard and I ready to be the PM.
DAmn straight DAT IS WOMAN!!!!!!!!!
SHE IS AN ARIES WOMAN!
cm103
10-07-2007, 08:07 PM
She not getting no PM job. Bas and Jack go fight over that if (God forbid) the UNC win.
TheLight
10-07-2007, 08:10 PM
AH COME BACK and AH RIDING WITH THE UNC-A
:) :) :) welcome back... :)
JediKnight
10-07-2007, 08:12 PM
Head of Women's Arm? Please!!! Ah like Kamla speech though, was lash for Bas, Ramesh and Jack!
Solachica
10-07-2007, 08:14 PM
Allyuh really think just becos it had a big crowd it mean something?
Supposing it have plenty other people who went there becos of the same reason or similiar reasons as the fellers I know. :?
peanut
10-07-2007, 08:19 PM
Head of Women's Arm? Please!!! Ah like Kamla speech though, was lash for Bas, Ramesh and Jack!
Listening to her convinced me to come back to the UNC and I was also extremely pleased to see Ramesh back as I for one had personally liasoned with both Bas and Ramesh to put aside their differences for the sake of the Country.
The only thing I would like to see now is the VOP and the UNC come to an agreement in regards to Sando East and have one opposition candidate
JediKnight
10-07-2007, 08:32 PM
Head of Women's Arm? Please!!! Ah like Kamla speech though, was lash for Bas, Ramesh and Jack!
Listening to her convinced me to come back to the UNC and I was also extremely pleased to see Ramesh back as I for one had personally liasoned with both Bas and Ramesh to put aside their differences for the sake of the Country.
The only thing I would like to see now is the VOP and the UNC come to an agreement in regards to Sando East and have one opposition candidate
But that can't happen with Bas still there. And while she was strong and it was a good speech, it was a clear attack on Bas, Ramesh and Jack. I am not convinced that all is well. I am not convinced.
peanut
10-07-2007, 08:38 PM
it was a clear attack on Bas, Ramesh and Jack. I am not convinced that all is well. I am not convinced.
I agree on the attack, but it seems clear she knows she holds a solid base in Siparia and they know her loss will be a tremendous blow for the UNC. They can't afford that!
JediKnight
10-07-2007, 08:45 PM
it was a clear attack on Bas, Ramesh and Jack. I am not convinced that all is well. I am not convinced.
I agree on the attack, but it seems clear she knows she holds a solid base in Siparia and they know her loss will be a tremendous blow for the UNC. They can't afford that!
It remains to be seen if "Head of Women" will cushion the blow from Thursday. Kamla is not a happy camper. Bas & jack knows that and I don't think enough damage control was done.
sam48
10-07-2007, 08:53 PM
Mr Peanut,
when did you liase between Panday and Ramesh to put aside their differences in the interest of the people. Was it when they destroyed the UNC government and dashed the hopes of the people, or is it now when they are crawling back on their bellies grovelling and begging the same people they both betrayed, to vote for them again? All that they deserve is a good bull pistle. Panday is like a cow that give a full pail of milk and then kick it down, in essence NFG.
The rest of the sycophants in the UNC was unable then and are unable today to tie that cow foot. That is a good for nothing beast as talented as it is. :x
snowbird
10-07-2007, 08:54 PM
She is sounding as if she is giving a farewell speech.
She sounded like she telling the UNC men and she supporters that I am woman, i am strong, I didnot betray you, I smart, I wukk hard and I ready to be the PM.
DAmn straight DAT IS WOMAN!!!!!!!!!
Isn't it sad though that after all her years in politics, after all she had done for her country, after all that she has done for her party, she still has to continue to prove herself.
Think for a moment, had she been a man would she have had to prostrate herself like that before thousands of so called 'supporters'; it boggles my mind why she or any woman would even want to be part of that type of organization.
She may be a woman, but in that instance...... pretty pathetic; dignity should never be for sale.
peanut
10-07-2007, 08:55 PM
Mr Peanut,
when did you liase between Panday and Ramesh to put aside their differences in the interest of the people. Was it when they destroyed the UNC government and dashed the hopes of the people, or is it now when they are crawling back on their bellies grovelling and begging the same people they both betrayed, to vote for them again? All that they deserve is a good bull pistle. Panday is like a cow that give a full pail of milk and then kick it down, in essence NFG.
The rest of the sycophants in the UNC was unable then and are unable today to tie that cow foot. That is a good for nothing beast as talented as it is. :x
Is Ms Peanut.
And that was in 2002
sam48
10-07-2007, 09:09 PM
I empathise with Kamla as I know her and her family personally.The UNC has been again hoodwinked by Panday because Kamla is the one with the best hope of getting the disappointed and disgusted to return to the fold.
As things stand she will have a tough battle to retain her seat with perrenial favorite Govindra Roopnarine, whom I also know personally, contesting for COP, and to whom she has lost before by a very wide margin before.
slayerdave
10-07-2007, 09:33 PM
slayerdave, check yuhself.
What did I do......all fair in love an war.
slayerdave
10-07-2007, 09:47 PM
Allyuh eh find dat Khadijja chick kinna cute? Sumana, hook meh up nah gyul.
Leave my gul alone, fella.
slayerdave
10-07-2007, 10:03 PM
Why are there mocco jumbies at political rallies? What de hell is that about? :x
why is there flood in a political rally? What the hell is that about?
slayerdave
10-07-2007, 10:05 PM
Yuh know ah was refering to all political rallies. Why allyuh UNC, no wait, COP, no wait, UNC, no wait, COP, no wait, UNC supporters so sensitive? :D
We never had ballsier tea or ballsier and rice......help we out nah.
Maccogirl
10-07-2007, 10:08 PM
All parties have their internal problems some of you acting like the COP does not or at least that is the perception that COP and the media would love to give, As for the Rally one it just goes to show when people with something between their ears work what they can produce the stage setting was excellent the best in all the party launching.
The UNCA had all their bases covered for full crowd participation, and the program moved without a hitch, they had a place for the media, and cameras at every vantage point taking pictures of the crowd to add to the content we even got an aerial view in case anyone wanted to dispute crowd size.
The people came out so all this talk about UNCA in trouble, it shrinking, COP has 80% of the base it sure does not look so to me, maybe Yetming needs to go back and check his figures all I can see the UNCA doing from here on is building already there has been calls to the radio station of persons changing their tune and saying they are going back home to the UNCA.
Maybe it is true a day in politics is a very long time :D
slayerdave
10-07-2007, 10:17 PM
I empathise with Kamla as I know her and her family personally.The UNC has been again hoodwinked by Panday because Kamla is the one with the best hope of getting the disappointed and disgusted to return to the fold.
As things stand she will have a tough battle to retain her seat with perrenial favorite Govindra Roopnarine, whom I also know personally, contesting for COP, and to whom she has lost before by a very wide margin before.
Fella you bring back up that corpse name......Govindra Roopnarine is the one who have the uphill battle to save his deposit.
Maccogirl
10-07-2007, 10:20 PM
Kamla losing her seat ??? what he smoking :mrgreen:
cm103
10-07-2007, 11:08 PM
Just got off the phone with a few friends from San Fernando who are former UNC supporters and internal party members. They now support the COP due to Panday's short sightedness.
They all went to the UNC rally today. I refuse to call it the Alliance as there is none. How many help would 6 other political parties bring if all their candidates would most likely lose their deposits independently?
The UNC provided them with free transportation and t-shirts and they were treated to the a great free cultural show. About 6 maxis of them went up to MidCenter. None of them were voting for UNC. The standing joke on the trip was that Jack was paying entertainment for his opponents. There was also 3 containers of t-shirts handed out.
My cousin was also paid about $400 to bring up 4 people to the rally. The main draw of that party was the cultural show. I'm sure they were not alone in their reason for attendance.
Anyone else notice what percentage of people polled by Ansa/McAl wanted Panday or Kamla as PM? Single digits. And thats asking people directly, not estimating from a concert attendance.
Sumana
10-07-2007, 11:24 PM
Am, and COP didn't do that? I know poeple who went COP and we ask dem well why you went "Well dey give we a jersey and a transportation and something to eat and ting na" :roll: new politics my ass
cm103
10-07-2007, 11:36 PM
Well based on the pappyshow that the UNC brought out I would guess that more people came for the entertainment than the free jersey and transport.
Since the last few polls have seen that less than 10% of the population would like to see the UNC back in power do you really think that they would have such a big turnout just to support them?
Same old khaki pants with no substance, plenty mud slinging and empty promises from the same old tired UNC stalwarts who have no political life except what Panday hands them. If he doesn't even know if his wife takes money to send their children to school then how can he keep on top of running a country?
Since Jack is now the only UNC financier then when time come to pay the piper what would he want? Jack done take a pound of flesh to take us to the world cup and now he have political aspirations. Now Ramesh back in there when he conspired with the PNM to remove the UNC a few years ago? The days of Ramesh and Panday teaming up done.
People open your eyes, Panday selling the country and party to try and regain power. Kamla wasn't crying tears of emotion for her party, she was crying tears for what her party has done to her. Head of the womens alliance? That is a harsh joke and not the first time she was thrown under the bus by her party.
slick
10-07-2007, 11:44 PM
Am, and COP didn't do that? I know poeple who went COP and we ask dem well why you went "Well dey give we a jersey and a transportation and something to eat and ting na" :roll: new politics my ass
Got that right.
Them polls that putting down the UNC are a bunch of hogwash if you ask me. Up to this day, no one that I know has been polled by these famous "pollsters" that the media keeps talking about. Apparently they only take random polls inside of COP and PNM meetings.
45,000 plus at the UNC-A Rally. (police estimate)
7 different media persons said that the crowd was at least twice as large as both the COP and PNM (individual) crowds from the previous day.
Surely more than 50% of that crowd were UNC-A supporters. I think it would be safe to say that about 85% of the crowd were supporters and about 15% were freeloaders/spies/what ever you want to call them.
The way I see it, the UNC-A would be the party to beat this rounds.
COP and PNM running scared now. :ugeek: :P :mrgreen:
cm103
10-08-2007, 12:00 AM
Well I know of at least 4 people who were polled at least twice so far. Trying to discredit the polls to make yourself feel better doesn't really have any merit. You think Ansa/McAl and UWI would jeopardize their reputations just to make it look so?
From your maths there you estimating over 38k were there to support the UNC. The polls are a more scientific measure of support mean more than any rally support could and they saying otherwise. How many people you think stayed away from the COP and PNM rallies because it was pouring rain?
COP rally came in around 35k btw. And thats from the amount of wristbands given out at the gates, not any police estimates. Oh and the people I mentioned my cousin was paid to bring to the rally...they were contractors and they were given $400 each to bring their workers to boost numbers.
UNC losing more seats this rounds. Nobody backing any opposition alliance and a year old party has commanded a following that cannot be ignored. All because of the leadership of the UNC which can fool some, but not all.
All allyuh watching rally numbers, keep looking. The real fight is between the PNM and COP but you'll can continue counting concert attendees.
slick
10-08-2007, 12:07 AM
Well I know of at least 4 people who were polled at least twice so far. Trying to discredit the polls to make yourself feel better doesn't really have any merit. You think Ansa/McAl and UWI would jeopardize their reputations just to make it look so?
I guess you've proved my point for me. Ansa/McAl and UWI polling the same COP supporters over and over again.
Sumana
10-08-2007, 12:26 AM
COP rally came in around 35k btw. And thats from the amount of wristbands given out at the gates, not any police estimates. Oh and the people I mentioned my cousin was paid to bring to the rally...they were contractors and they were given $400 each to bring their workers to boost numbers.
funny a COP person told me 7k, but I guess our crowd have you all pretty worried now eh? So now you gonna grasp at all kinda straws to discredit it - The message from this crowd was a clear message to Yetming- You don't have no 80% of the UNC Base, the UNC Alliance is strong and going!!!!!!
Maccogirl
10-08-2007, 12:37 AM
When the COP done I wonder how Jack Warner never made the million mans list of Forbes, they must forget Jack I will have to send them an email and remind them that there is a man in T&T that they keep passing by Donald Trump and Bill Gates have nothing with him he real loaded. COP saying 3 containers of T-shirts and other things, 4 million for the show, and 1millon a month Jack spending :D :D
Al yuh wanted crowd all yuh get crowd now deal with it, give the dam people credit nah they pull it off after all the old talk that UNCA dead, Panday is the most hated man, Kamla going COP give it a rest now, they did well when everyone was expecting this to be a flop they pull it off just goes to show while the COP spending their days and nights talking nonsense the UNCA people working the ground holding on to their base.
The COP with the farse self move into Woodford Sq brag and boast how the in PNM stronghold and the take Woodford Sq, well PNM get vex and fill the place people like sand,while big mouth Anil telling the park crowd that rain wash out the PNM gathering in the square, when will the COP learn :D
The fact of the matter is that it was a success now people calling the radio stations all evening saying they went COP but now they going back to the arms of the UNC they going home :lol: some saying the COP starting to look too much like the NAR and they cannot forget what was done to the small man in those NAR days, some leaving COP because Ramesh back, some like the unity call all the phone ringing off the hook saying they coming home to the UNCA once again, all you have to do is turn on your radio on the Indian stations and hear for yourself.
COP wanted to go it alone, all yuh follow Ganga, Yetming and Sadiq with their nonsense when the dust is clear all you will see is the spot where these fellas were standing, they try a thing now it starting to look shaky watch and see what will happen in the coming days, as Manning said he gave the both parties enough time to get their act together but when egos get too big and people head start to swell like they get dumb everyone starts to feel they are the new messiahs of the Indo people, but looks like the people outside smarter than those in the COP because the people was warning Dookeran about what may happen. :o
cm103
10-08-2007, 01:08 AM
Well I thought you would have come with some sensible argument. Guess that was asking too much as you have not made any kind of point.I must give people credit for drawing crowd for a concert? That when the polls every week showing no support for the UNC? Jack footing the bill and he go want payback when d time come. UNC finances running almost solely on him now.
Every UNC supporter conveniently decides to forget that their own political leader was thrown under the bus by power hungry party members this very week. Then she was given a token position to prevent her running away. If that is how they move with their own then imagine if they were in power.
Everybody except PNMites called Ramesh a traitor in 2002, now he is a savior because the ship sinking and those who still have their own brains and inside are leaving before they go down with it.
Panday will never see the PM seat again. His time has come and gone, time for some fresh minds to take over and manage before the money done and we have nothing saved for tomorrow.
You might be a little young to remember when oil was under $10US a barrel and we had no inflation and food price hikes like we have now when oil is over $75 a barrel. You know who was the Minister of Finance and then later the Central Bank Governor?
Time to stop voting your parents politics and come out for a new day.
King B
10-08-2007, 03:30 AM
Apparently COP supporters are only going to realise how much they have been deceived by COP propaganda the morning after the election. The people at the ANSA McAL poll office are going to have a lot of explaining to do.
Although I admire Kamla and I understand that she is liked and respected by a cross-section of the nation, I cannot understand her mis-guided loyalty.Loyalty is admirable, but she needs to ask herself what is she loyal too? It sounds more like a sadistic/masochist relationship, a relationship many abused pple fall into, or the Hellsinki syndrome. Perhaps she is now totally submissive and accept the roll of the abused woman of even love her abuser!! I hope not! Wake up and walk out Kamla, Panday will not change his stripes now. Get out of all that conflict, intrigue and instability. Place yourghaji bundle on solid rock!!
Solachica
10-08-2007, 05:41 AM
I am a bit confused and thought allyuh might be able to answer my question.
Saturday I want to class and there was a man there talking before class abt Politics. He was asking who u supporting etc. I thought he was out of place to be telling people certain things becos of wht they said but thts another story. He was the sorta person who feel he knows it all nuh.
One comment he made tht I didn't know abt was when he said tht UNCA wud never win becos of wht they did. So then he said they did something to God when they were in power and becos of tht they wud never win.
Maybe I was still young in those days so I can't remember but anyone knows wht they did against god?
Is it the Trinity Cross issue he talking abt? :? But then tht is more recent.
I am a bit confused and thought allyuh might be able to answer my question.
Saturday I want to class and there was a man there talking before class abt Politics. He was asking who u supporting etc. I thought he was out of place to be telling people certain things becos of wht they said but thts another story. He was the sorta person who feel he knows it all nuh.
One comment he made tht I didn't know abt was when he said tht UNCA wud never win becos of wht they did. So then he said they did something to God when they were in power and becos of tht they wud never win.
Maybe I was still young in those days so I can't remember but anyone knows wht they did against god?
Is it the Trinity Cross issue he talking abt? :? But then tht is more recent.
maybe he referring to the "Hindu stone" that panday had buried in the PM grounds ? Total bs at any rate.
cm103
10-08-2007, 07:13 AM
Apparently COP supporters are only going to realise how much they have been deceived by COP propaganda the morning after the election. The people at the ANSA McAL poll office are going to have a lot of explaining to do.
Well it's a lot better than watching our current PM build his $140m mansion for the 'people', buying a jet for him to fly around and putting up smelter plants with blatant disregard for what the people want. All that, no democracy in the PNM and we moving towards a religious, socalist state but PNM supporters still backing him. Same old tired politics from the 70's but with a 'new' face. We'll end up in the same boat as the 80's when Manning take he plane Panama after oil drop and the currency gone with it.
Executive presidency? I wonder who that going to? You know Zimbabwe have something like that.
But you'll seeing that and it ent matter right? Yuh still staining yuh finger for Patrick.
I must admit that d crowd was very big, but dat ent mean dey winnin d election.... Bas wld never see dat PM office again (unless he get invited to ah meetin or sometin)....
An look at how Bas put Kamla in she place... tellin she dat she belong in d women's arm... look woman stay in yuh place and leave the men to handle the business.... you stay and run d women's arm... if i was Kamla i wld feel dat Bas rubbin salt in an open wound...
The election race is shaping up to be rather interestin....so i guess on Nov 6 ppl don't feel bad since dey have big, big crowd and dey aint' win d election.....
Scorpio
10-08-2007, 08:03 AM
Apparently COP supporters are only going to realise how much they have been deceived by COP propaganda the morning after the election. The people at the ANSA McAL poll office are going to have a lot of explaining to do.
Well it's a lot better than watching our current PM build his $140m mansion for the 'people', buying a jet for him to fly around and putting up smelter plants with blatant disregard for what the people want. All that, no democracy in the PNM and we moving towards a religious, socalist state but PNM supporters still backing him. Same old tired politics from the 70's but with a 'new' face. We'll end up in the same boat as the 80's when Manning take he plane Panama after oil drop and the currency gone with it.
Executive presidency? I wonder who that going to? You know Zimbabwe have something like that.
But you'll seeing that and it ent matter right? Yuh still staining yuh finger for Patrick.
You still tryin to reason with this man who say on another thread that this PNM administration have the lowest unemployment rates ever ?
I lock off on this dick bec like he really believe painting rocks is employment.
cm103
10-08-2007, 09:06 AM
Apparently COP supporters are only going to realise how much they have been deceived by COP propaganda the morning after the election. The people at the ANSA McAL poll office are going to have a lot of explaining to do.
Well it's a lot better than watching our current PM build his $140m mansion for the 'people', buying a jet for him to fly around and putting up smelter plants with blatant disregard for what the people want. All that, no democracy in the PNM and we moving towards a religious, socalist state but PNM supporters still backing him. Same old tired politics from the 70's but with a 'new' face. We'll end up in the same boat as the 80's when Manning take he plane Panama after oil drop and the currency gone with it.
Executive presidency? I wonder who that going to? You know Zimbabwe have something like that.
But you'll seeing that and it ent matter right? Yuh still staining yuh finger for Patrick.
You still tryin to reason with this man who say on another thread that this PNM administration have the lowest unemployment rates ever ?
I lock off on this dick bec like he really believe painting rocks is employment.
Well when the PNM paying gangs for a fortnight of work when they sitting in the forest for 4 hours then it must look like unemployment down. PNM version of employment is state dependence.
serenity
10-08-2007, 09:20 AM
I must say, I was quite impressed with the turnout at the UNCA rally. It was also disturbing to see so many ppl still supporting such a party, wait, its not a party....hmmm... not even sure how that works. Anyway, shocked at the amount of ppl still worshipping Panday despite everything. But thats democracy at work so no arguement from me there.
I have a question relating to something Panday allegedly said. Did he really say something about Dookeran fainting in face of opposition? And was he alluding to Dookeran fainting at his brother's funeral? Dais what somebody tell me. I wasnt there so I want somebody who was there to tell me exactly what he said bec u know how ppl coulld twist things...
cm103
10-08-2007, 09:31 AM
I heard something to that effect as well but didn't get the full story. If that is true that is s cheap blow and not surprising based on how low Panday will stoop.
Like he forget he not in jail right now because of his frail health?
Scorpio
10-08-2007, 09:36 AM
Well yes, Panday mouth really ent have no cover nah.
lou_uk
10-08-2007, 09:55 AM
This is politics. A few years aback only PNM supporters would be complaining about comments like that.
Maccogirl
10-08-2007, 10:45 AM
Cop supporters are real cry babies when the COP cussing Panday calling him thief and corrupt all yuh laughing now is long tears that Panday say Dookeran my faint, all yuh good yes this is politics and not for the faint of heart if all yuh cant take the jamming stay home, when Manning jam Dooks you dont say a word but let Panday open he mouth all yuh offended :D
Sumana
10-08-2007, 10:57 AM
I must say, I was quite impressed with the turnout at the UNCA rally. It was also disturbing to see so many ppl still supporting such a party, wait, its not a party....hmmm... not even sure how that works. Anyway, shocked at the amount of ppl still worshipping Panday despite everything. But thats democracy at work so no arguement from me there.
I have a question relating to something Panday allegedly said. Did he really say something about Dookeran fainting in face of opposition? And was he alluding to Dookeran fainting at his brother's funeral? Dais what somebody tell me. I wasnt there so I want somebody who was there to tell me exactly what he said bec u know how ppl coulld twist things...
he was talkin about the coup
serenity
10-08-2007, 11:02 AM
What about the coup? Did dooks faint then? And what exactly did Panday say?
Scorpio
10-08-2007, 11:05 AM
Well, at least Dooks wasn't home sleeping until the coup was over. :roll:
saltwater
10-08-2007, 11:43 AM
What about the coup? Did dooks faint then? And what exactly did Panday say?
He had to be given sedatives because it was to much stress for him.
and didnt badjohn Ramesh run to Grenada when the attmepted coup take place ?
Bas statement did imply dat he was referring to Dooks brother's funeral... which is a low and insensitive blow if dat is true... but then again is Bas...
God when they were in power and becos of tht they wud never win.
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Doh believe all de foolishness pple does say! We cannot do anything to God, we do it to ourselves. There are certain universal laws for us to follow, we break them, we create our own heaven or hell. This man sounds like some half idiot with a politic agenda trying to intimidate pplr.Walk fearless and do what you percieve as the best for the nation!
Mr Majik
10-08-2007, 02:13 PM
The fact of the matter is that it was a success now people calling the radio stations all evening saying they went COP but now they going back to the arms of the UNC they going home :lol: some saying the COP starting to look too much like the NAR and they cannot forget what was done to the small man in those NAR days, some leaving COP because Ramesh back, some like the unity call all the phone ringing off the hook saying they coming home to the UNCA once again, all you have to do is turn on your radio on the Indian stations and hear for yourself.
So lemmih unnastand dis..the New UNCAlliance, billing itself as a truly uniting party, only getting big up on Indian station? :|
cm103
10-08-2007, 02:17 PM
I have a question for all you UNC supporters. Ask your candidates how much your party offered Inshan Ishmael to broadcast the rally on his station even though he turn it down.
And this one straight from the horse's mouth folks.
JediKnight
10-08-2007, 03:18 PM
The UNC Rally was impressive, but I think it was smaller than both COP and PNM, the space was much smaller than Woddford Square and Skinner Park. Also, I know quite a few COP supporters that went for the entertainment and free food. It would have been interesting to see the crowd for a straight presentation of candidates and no news about Kamla. And El Dorado Cooperative? Of course it going to be packed because it even smaller than Mid Center. Why are they doing this? Does that mean that if there is an accomodation, the usual dead beats not getting a seat. Poor Adesh, Hamza, Chandresh, Roodal. This week goin to be a lot of sleepless nights. :mrgreen:
Double Trouble
10-08-2007, 06:26 PM
I have a question for all you UNC supporters. Ask your candidates how much your party offered Inshan Ishmael to broadcast the rally on his station even though he turn it down.
And this one straight from the horse's mouth folks.
That's one stupid jackarse, disguised as a horse! Why would any media house turn away a paying customer?
TheLight
10-08-2007, 06:33 PM
That's one stupid jackarse, disguised as a horse!
:D :D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol:
slick
10-08-2007, 06:58 PM
The UNC Rally was impressive, but I think it was smaller than both COP and PNM, the space was much smaller than Woddford Square and Skinner Park. Also, I know quite a few COP supporters that went for the entertainment and free food. It would have been interesting to see the crowd for a straight presentation of candidates and no news about Kamla. And El Dorado Cooperative? Of course it going to be packed because it even smaller than Mid Center. Why are they doing this? Does that mean that if there is an accomodation, the usual dead beats not getting a seat. Poor Adesh, Hamza, Chandresh, Roodal. This week goin to be a lot of sleepless nights. :mrgreen:
You thought wrong there.
Media personnel who were present at PNM and COP rallies the day before said that the UNC-A crowd was double that of the other 2 parties.
Police estimates were over 45,000 in the crowd.
From the aerial shot taken from the helicopter it was clear that the crowd present at the UNC-A rally was one of the largest ever seen in T&T.
The mall compound was packed, the streets and the highway was overflowing with UNC-A supporters. Some people who couldn't make with the crowd were in their cars tuned in to the live broadcast.
You have to take us on this forum for a bunch of fools if you think we're going to believe "but I think it was smaller than both COP and PNM".
cm103
10-08-2007, 07:10 PM
I have a question for all you UNC supporters. Ask your candidates how much your party offered Inshan Ishmael to broadcast the rally on his station even though he turn it down.
And this one straight from the horse's mouth folks.
That's one stupid jackarse, disguised as a horse! Why would any media house turn away a paying customer?
Not everybody like Panday and could be bought. Some people have morals which they hold over money.
Sumana
10-08-2007, 07:21 PM
I have a question for all you UNC supporters. Ask your candidates how much your party offered Inshan Ishmael to broadcast the rally on his station even though he turn it down.
And this one straight from the horse's mouth folks.
That's one stupid jackarse, disguised as a horse! Why would any media house turn away a paying customer?
Not everybody like Panday and could be bought. Some people have morals which they hold over money.
Hold up, we puttin Inshan, and morals in the same sentence?
cm103
10-08-2007, 07:27 PM
Hold up, we puttin Inshan, and morals in the same sentence?
Wow, another current UNC supporter talking about morals. Your leader doing a real good job leading by example.
Sumana
10-08-2007, 07:32 PM
Hold up, we puttin Inshan, and morals in the same sentence?
Wow, another current UNC supporter talking about morals. Your leader doing a real good job leading by example.
I asked you a question - Answer it
cm103
10-08-2007, 07:43 PM
Yes we are. Sometimes people have to take a stand somewhere. Unlike your leader who chase everyone away but come elections want them all to come back so he could win.
That make yuh happy?
Now explain to me what your leader's idea of morals is if he could see out his party for money and bring down any attempt for leadership other than his own. A broken record that will say anything and do anything to get back in whitehall.
If removing the PNM from power so blinding that you'll put another dictator in Manning's place?
Sumana
10-08-2007, 07:48 PM
Yes we are. Sometimes people have to take a stand somewhere. Unlike your leader who chase everyone away but come elections want them all to come back so he could win.
That make yuh happy?
Now explain to me what your leader's idea of morals is if he could see out his party for money and bring down any attempt for leadership other than his own. A broken record that will say anything and do anything to get back in whitehall.
If removing the PNM from power so blinding that you'll put another dictator in Manning's place?
Do you even know Inshan and the kind of man he is?
cm103
10-08-2007, 07:51 PM
I asked you a few questions so answer them. Allyuh UNC supporters haven't brought out a straight answer yet.
Let me add one one more. You know Panday and Jack and the type of men they are?
Sumana
10-08-2007, 07:54 PM
I asked you a few questions so answer them. Allyuh UNC supporters haven't brought out a straight answer yet.
Because I have no time with pointless discussions, but when someone comes up with a jackass statement like putting Inshan and morality in one sentence I really have to question what kind of "brilliant minds" you all profess to be :roll:
cm103
10-08-2007, 07:56 PM
If yuh don't have an answer just say so. Taking the higher moral ground is not something you learned by following Panday.
Sumana
10-08-2007, 07:58 PM
If yuh don't have an answer just say so. Taking the higher moral ground is not something you learned by following Panday.
So then you don't know what kind of man Inshan is but you talking about Inshan and morality?
cm103
10-08-2007, 07:59 PM
So I must be the only one answering questions about morality? I asked you about the men you following and theirs. I believe I answered your first question but you still dodging mine.
Sumana
10-08-2007, 08:03 PM
So I must be the only one answering questions about morality? I asked you about the men you following and theirs. I believe I answered your first question but you still dodging mine.
Like I said, I have no time for pointless discussions, but when I see people talking out of their ass, making statements like putting Inshan and morality in the same sentence, I have to wonder, for people who try to project that they're brilliant, what the hell they really thinking? And then the same people want to be making posts insulting people, but make stupid statements like that? Be Real.
cm103
10-08-2007, 08:12 PM
It is pointless to have any discussion about the morality possessed by Panday and Jack. Its a dead argument I agree.
I have never professed to be brilliant but if you assume that of me and had that hope I do thank you for the compliment.
If you had a point you would make it but apparently you don't. I really wonder what the current UNC supporters are thinking when they see their party and any chance of opposition unity being dashed by one man with his own selfish agenda. But then again, you make your bed, you lie in it.
Sumana
10-08-2007, 08:16 PM
I rest my case. Anyone who's reading can see when you were talking about Inshan and Morality you were clearly talking out of ur ass.
cm103
10-08-2007, 08:18 PM
And your lack of response to my questions about the morality of the current leadership of the UNC spoke volumes as well. I can only say now that your support of the UNC is deserved and they should be happy they have you.
Sumana
10-08-2007, 08:20 PM
Like I said, and people who know me on this board personally will tell you I have no time with pointless discussions that go nowhere. There are much more important things for me to be doing mmmkie?
cm103
10-08-2007, 08:24 PM
It took you carrying on this thread for how long just to say that you ent carrying on any pointless conversation?
Sumana
10-08-2007, 08:26 PM
Haha, if you didn't see the point, then I'm sorry for you :arrow: Imma out!
JediKnight
10-08-2007, 10:13 PM
Media personnel who were present at PNM and COP rallies the day before said that the UNC-A crowd was double that of the other 2 parties.
Police estimates were over 45,000 in the crowd.
From the aerial shot taken from the helicopter it was clear that the crowd present at the UNC-A rally was one of the largest ever seen in T&T.
The mall compound was packed, the streets and the highway was overflowing with UNC-A supporters. Some people who couldn't make with the crowd were in their cars tuned in to the live broadcast.
You have to take us on this forum for a bunch of fools if you think we're going to believe "but I think it was smaller than both COP and PNM".
Media Personnel??? Police??? Get real. There is no way Mid Center packed could hold more people than Skinner Park and Woodford Square half filled. And both meetings were more than half filled. Plus, I know quite a few people who were there because of the entertainment and did not support the UNC. But if you want to kid yourself about the crowd go ahead. There is no way 45,000 people could have fit in that space.
JediKnight
10-08-2007, 10:27 PM
If yuh don't have an answer just say so. Taking the higher moral ground is not something you learned by following Panday.
So then you don't know what kind of man Inshan is but you talking about Inshan and morality?
I happen to know Mr. Ishmael for about 10 years and don't know anything immoral that he has done. I would be happy if you could enlighten me. Further, I have heard on the radio quite a few people questioning Ramlogan and Ramadhar's morality. All I have to say about that is hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!!! Just because they have left the UNC, all of a sudden they are immoral. You all don't stop to think that these persons were Panday's personal lawyers. I also happen to know both men and they are of the highest integrity. It is amazing that in one week-end they can become immoral, whilst over the years in the UNC they were the bright young men in the party. Just think about it and see how laughable it sounds. Let us now turn to the UNC. On Thursday last, lunchtime Panday said there was no leader of the UNC-A. Judging from Kamla's reaction and Cadiz statement, this had to be a lie when he said it. Then by Thursday evening Jack was appointed leader, with Bas in a partnership. Let us now deal with Ramesh who has been welcomed with open arms. What happened in 2001? He was a neemakaram in 2001 by UNC standards, but in 2007 he is the new messiah? What changed? Look at the pattern. While in the UNC everyone is as good as gold, but the minute they leave all of a sudden they are immoral, corrupt etc. Get real! That is all the UNC is good for, character assasination when people get wise and realise that Panday is all about himself. Let him thank Jack for a wonderful meeting and the crowd that was bought. Out of 1.3 million people they were unable to attract local talent, they had to import King and the fella from the Gandhi Institute. You have a lot to be proud of.
Sumana
10-08-2007, 10:32 PM
Media personnel who were present at PNM and COP rallies the day before said that the UNC-A crowd was double that of the other 2 parties.
Police estimates were over 45,000 in the crowd.
From the aerial shot taken from the helicopter it was clear that the crowd present at the UNC-A rally was one of the largest ever seen in T&T.
The mall compound was packed, the streets and the highway was overflowing with UNC-A supporters. Some people who couldn't make with the crowd were in their cars tuned in to the live broadcast.
You have to take us on this forum for a bunch of fools if you think we're going to believe "but I think it was smaller than both COP and PNM".
Media Personnel??? Police??? Get real. There is no way Mid Center packed could hold more people than Skinner Park and Woodford Square half filled. And both meetings were more than half filled. Plus, I know quite a few people who were there because of the entertainment and did not support the UNC. But if you want to kid yourself about the crowd go ahead. There is no way 45,000 people could have fit in that space.
Smart ass, people were overflowing out of mid cenre mall, did you even look @ the coverage?
We ain't say that they fitted in the friggen carpark, you would swear people lacking common sense these days frig man
JediKnight
10-08-2007, 10:35 PM
Smart ass, people were overflowing out of mid cenre mall, did you even look @ the coverage?
We ain't say that they fitted in the friggen carpark, you would swear people lacking common sense these days frig man
As a matter of fact I did, as well as drove past about 5:00 p.m. If you were not that passionate, you would be able to look at things objectively. What I also noticed from the tv shots were that there were a lot of people not wearing the UNC t-shirts. There would have to be at least 20,000 people "overflowin. If it was that big, then the Co-operative would be very inadequate. Why not move to Skinner Park or the Square?
Sumana
10-08-2007, 10:38 PM
Smart ass, people were overflowing out of mid cenre mall, did you even look @ the coverage?
We ain't say that they fitted in the friggen carpark, you would swear people lacking common sense these days frig man
As a matter of fact I did, as well as drove past about 5:00 p.m. If you were not that passionate, you would be able to look at things objectively. What I also noticed from the tv shots were that there were a lot of people not wearing the UNC t-shirts. There would have to be at least 20,000 people "overflowin. If it was that big, then the Co-operative would be very inadequate. Why not move to Skinner Park or the Square?
And if you weren't so stuck to proving one side, you'd be able to be a little more objective :roll:
It's call campaigning, you know what that is? Visiting different areas. Need I explain more?
JediKnight
10-08-2007, 10:43 PM
Smart ass, people were overflowing out of mid cenre mall, did you even look @ the coverage?
We ain't say that they fitted in the friggen carpark, you would swear people lacking common sense these days frig man
As a matter of fact I did, as well as drove past about 5:00 p.m. If you were not that passionate, you would be able to look at things objectively. What I also noticed from the tv shots were that there were a lot of people not wearing the UNC t-shirts. There would have to be at least 20,000 people "overflowin. If it was that big, then the Co-operative would be very inadequate. Why not move to Skinner Park or the Square?
And if you weren't so stuck to proving one side, you'd be able to be a little more objective :roll:
It's call campaigning, you know what that is? Visiting different areas. Need I explain more?
Apparently you know far more than us all. And if you know so much, why was only 21 candidates presented? And what was the Victory rally for? :?:
cm103
10-08-2007, 10:52 PM
Doh study she...she parents prob tell she vote UNC. I ent hear no reasons or defense of her party leaders yet. The justification of crowd size is all we getting. Apparently she never vote before and she have better things to do.
Oh and I was supposed to have gotten a point from her somewhere in her "argument" . Its really too bad for me that I missed it.
JediKnight
10-08-2007, 10:54 PM
Doh study she...she parents prob tell she vote UNC. I ent hear no reasons or defense of her party leaders yet. The justification of crowd size is all we getting. Apparently she never vote before and she have better things to do.
Oh and I was supposed to have gotten a point from her somewhere in her "argument" . Its really too bad for me that I missed it.
Thanks, ah thought was just me that missed the point of the tirade! ;) Ah waitin for de answers though!
Sumana
10-08-2007, 11:07 PM
See why I usually don't waste my time with this?
slayerdave
10-08-2007, 11:08 PM
As a matter of fact I did, as well as drove past about 5:00 p.m. If you were not that passionate, you would be able to look at things objectively. What I also noticed from the tv shots were that there were a lot of people not wearing the UNC t-shirts. There would have to be at least 20,000 people "overflowin. If it was that big, then the Co-operative would be very inadequate. Why not move to Skinner Park or the Square?
I was not wearing a UNC t-shirt.........
In the park itself can hold between 25 - 30 thousand, crowds were on the highway and the main road and some side streets, man I pass and KFC was full of orange....
Crowds don't win seats, but it gives a good estimation of whats going on.
For the last question, is what eluded your leader. The UNC heartland is where........
JPersad
10-08-2007, 11:09 PM
See why I usually don't waste my time with this?
Then why you keep coming back ?
Sumana
10-08-2007, 11:10 PM
See why I usually don't waste my time with this?
Then why you keep coming back ?
To laugh at nobodies like you
JPersad
10-08-2007, 11:11 PM
As a matter of fact I did, as well as drove past about 5:00 p.m. If you were not that passionate, you would be able to look at things objectively. What I also noticed from the tv shots were that there were a lot of people not wearing the UNC t-shirts. There would have to be at least 20,000 people "overflowin. If it was that big, then the Co-operative would be very inadequate. Why not move to Skinner Park or the Square?
I was not wearing a UNC t-shirt.........
In the park itself can hold between 25 - 30 thousand, crowds were on the highway and the main road and some side streets, man I pass and KFC was full of orange....
Crowds don't win seats, but it gives a good estimation of whats going on.
For the last question, is what eluded your leader. The UNC heartland is where........
YUP !
UNC by a landslide !
JPersad
10-08-2007, 11:12 PM
See why I usually don't waste my time with this?
Then why you keep coming back ?
To laugh at nobodies like you
Just like your daddy !
Somebody described him as the UNC rectum .I think that was wrong though.
Sumana
10-08-2007, 11:14 PM
You can take a low class person and put them in a first world country, but they can never buy class - And they'll always remain low class.
So hilarious, big OLD man, throwing insults at a 20 year old - I see that you've obviously reached in life. Congrats
cm103
10-08-2007, 11:15 PM
See why I usually don't waste my time with this?
Then why you keep coming back ?
Give she a bly...she have to check her social studies book and her parents to find out how to answer the questions we asked.
If is one thing UNC supporters could do is bad talk without making any point. It's something taught from the leader coming down the ranks.
I didn't hear anyone comment on Cadiz's statement today. Apparently the UNC and PNM internal "democratic" processes share the same playbook.
JPersad
10-08-2007, 11:17 PM
You can take a low class person and put them in a first world country, but they can never buy class - And they'll always remain low class.
So hilarious, big OLD man, throwing insults at a 20 year old - I see that you've obviously reached in life. Congrats
Play with fire CHILD and you will get burned !
Sumana
10-08-2007, 11:20 PM
You can take a low class person and put them in a first world country, but they can never buy class - And they'll always remain low class.
So hilarious, big OLD man, throwing insults at a 20 year old - I see that you've obviously reached in life. Congrats
Play with fire CHILD and you will get burned !
You're the one showing the entire board the kind of adult you are, you're burning yourself - have fun and continue.
JPersad
10-08-2007, 11:22 PM
See why I usually don't waste my time with this?
Then why you keep coming back ?
Give she a bly...she have to check her social studies book and her parents to find out how to answer the questions we asked.
If is one thing UNC supporters could do is bad talk without making any point. It's something taught from the leader coming down the ranks.
I didn't hear anyone comment on Cadiz's statement today. Apparently the UNC and PNM internal "democratic" processes share the same playbook.
Cadiz basically said what we all knew already : "Bas still dreaming bout becoming Prime Minister again.
JPersad
10-08-2007, 11:24 PM
You can take a low class person and put them in a first world country, but they can never buy class - And they'll always remain low class.
So hilarious, big OLD man, throwing insults at a 20 year old - I see that you've obviously reached in life. Congrats
Play with fire CHILD and you will get burned !
You're the one showing the entire board the kind of adult you are, you're burning yourself - have fun and continue.
Now you are the innocent victim ?
My my ....
Going to run to the mods now , or you already did that ?
slayerdave
10-08-2007, 11:25 PM
I asked you a few questions so answer them. Allyuh UNC supporters haven't brought out a straight answer yet.
Let me add one one more. You know Panday and Jack and the type of men they are?
So why not give your opinion........its seems that you have one and boiling to let it out.
Panday was successful trade unionist and politician, who gave up allot in defense of people in Trinidad and never duck and run when his back was against the wall. He was a competent and will even go as far as say that he was the best Prime Minister sweet t&t ever had. Yes he had made bad decisions for which he had to pay dearly and still pays for. He can still be considered a political heavyweight and has earned the supports he enjoyed.
Jack Warner is a successful businessman and a true patriot....Has give allot to local football. Vice president of FIFA and president of Concacaf..
cm103
10-08-2007, 11:27 PM
As a matter of fact I did, as well as drove past about 5:00 p.m. If you were not that passionate, you would be able to look at things objectively. What I also noticed from the tv shots were that there were a lot of people not wearing the UNC t-shirts. There would have to be at least 20,000 people "overflowin. If it was that big, then the Co-operative would be very inadequate. Why not move to Skinner Park or the Square?
I was not wearing a UNC t-shirt.........
In the park itself can hold between 25 - 30 thousand, crowds were on the highway and the main road and some side streets, man I pass and KFC was full of orange....
Crowds don't win seats, but it gives a good estimation of whats going on.
For the last question, is what eluded your leader. The UNC heartland is where........
Yes the number of people wearing a FREE t-shirt is a great indication of what going to happen at the polls. Forget all the surveys that were published so far, slayerdave has the best indicator of the UNC winning the elections.
I surprised that jack didn't measure the square footage of KFC and announce that they had over 1000 supporters in there alone.
Sumana
10-08-2007, 11:28 PM
Jpersad
:lol: :lol: :lol: How old are you? Wanna be an e-thug don't ya :roll: And I don't need to show the mods, what you're already showing by way of your actions - Keep going at me, keep burning urself, see if i care less, it's your credibility (or lack thereof) as a so called adult being called into question :roll:
slayerdave
10-08-2007, 11:29 PM
YUP !
UNC by a landslide !
So you coming down to support the corpses. Or having a vigil....
Maccogirl
10-08-2007, 11:30 PM
You know what UNC rally buss ok happy now everyone there was paid $1000 cash to attend, PNM rally buss also they were paid $5000 to attend is only the COP rally that had people that come out to vote :roll:
Sumana
10-08-2007, 11:31 PM
You know what UNC rally buss ok happy now everyone there was paid $1000 cash to attend, PNM rally buss also they were paid $5000 to attend is only the COP rally that had people that come out to vote :roll:
hahaha end of story ent
JPersad
10-08-2007, 11:33 PM
Jpersad
:lol: :lol: :lol: How old are you? Wanna be an e-thug don't ya :roll: And I don't need to show the mods, what you're already showing by way of your actions - Keep going at me, keep burning urself, see if i care less, it's your credibility (or lack thereof) as a so called adult being called into question :roll:
Are you waiting for an apology ?
Sumana
10-08-2007, 11:34 PM
Macco, study they love UNC so much - this is the longest thread on the board!
slayerdave
10-08-2007, 11:36 PM
Yes the number of people wearing a FREE t-shirt is a great indication of what going to happen at the polls. Forget all the surveys that were published so far, slayerdave has the best indicator of the UNC winning the elections.
I surprised that jack didn't measure the square footage of KFC and announce that they had over 1000 supporters in there alone.
You was born so or does it come natural....stupidity that is.
The KFC comment was to show that people were all around the town.
Surveys like the that says the corpses getting they backside kicked.....Or the one that says Duck and Run for PM but we voting PNM....or the one that Yetming has that says Corpses have 80% of the UNC base.
cm103
10-08-2007, 11:36 PM
Nobody is denying that Panday did a lot for the people but his current lust for power has lead him to do whaetver it takes to try and retain it. I think the present is a better indication of what to expect from Bas than what he has done in the past.
Go read socawarriors.net forums about Jack Warner and how his busines practices made him so successful. FIFA even pulled him up for conflict of interest for the world cup debacle. Yuh remember who overpack the stadium in 1989? Who promise the soca warriors money for playing the world cup but only give them $5k each? How come he manage to buy the broacast rights for $1 and resell them for a bundle but ent give no players any money? How come his sons get all the contracts for the Under 17 world cup?
Jack in it for Jack and allyuh really getting fooled if you think he there to try and make the country better.
I real sorry to say this but Panday et al really played into Manning's ploy. He warned that the opposition would play the race card and what we get? Panday for the Indian vote and Jack for the Negro vote. In this day and age that is a sorry state of affairs.
slayerdave
10-08-2007, 11:38 PM
Macco, study they love UNC so much - this is the longest thread on the board!
You think Ramesh has it bad, them fellas have it worst....political tabancca for the UNC that is.
JPersad
10-08-2007, 11:39 PM
YUP !
UNC by a landslide !
So you coming down to support the corpses. Or having a vigil....
Actually I will be with 8 close friends (6 COP supporters and 2 UNC supporters )monitoring the results and catching up for old time sake.There will be good food and drinks .However I am keeping away from meat and alcohol that week , but I will indulge in a Macanudo or Rocky Patel or two.
Maccogirl
10-08-2007, 11:40 PM
Yetming lie its not 80% of the UNC votes that COP has its 100% now they have no more UNC supporters in T&T, COP no longer has 50,000 members they now have 1.3 mil people in the COP, look they even just open two banks accounts one in Scotia and the other in Republic asking supporters to donate for fund the candidates campaign, imagine the amount of money by Friday that account will have is dollars for so :roll:
Sumana
10-08-2007, 11:40 PM
Macco, study they love UNC so much - this is the longest thread on the board!
You think Ramesh has it bad, them fellas have it worst....political tabancca for the UNC that is.
hahah, u ain't see how personal one of them wanna get with me? It hittin em hard boy :)
King B
10-08-2007, 11:41 PM
Crabs in a barrel anyone?
Sumana
10-08-2007, 11:42 PM
Yetming lie its not 80% of the UNC votes that COP has its 100% now they have no more UNC supporters in T&T, COP no longer has 50,000 members they now have 1.3 mil people in the COP, look they even just open two banks accounts one in Scotia and the other in Republic asking supporters to donate for fund the candidates campaign, imagine the amount of money by Friday that account will have is dollars for so :roll:
hmph, wid money and donations flowing so they cud run the country without using the state funds!
King B U alive dred!!!!! I well figure u and reva run away together :P
Maccogirl
10-08-2007, 11:42 PM
Wha he say is Manicou he eating while watching the election???
Solachica
10-08-2007, 11:44 PM
Sumana gurl I know you born into the politics and yuh doh take on all this talk.
Yuh is just ah passionate young woman and many woun't understand tht eh. :)
Anyway from wht I gather. They were saying tht panday really had intensions to pass on reins to kamla but after he heard his verdict in the court matter he chnaged his mind and decided he wanted the reins after all and was free to take it.
cm103
10-08-2007, 11:45 PM
Yes the number of people wearing a FREE t-shirt is a great indication of what going to happen at the polls. Forget all the surveys that were published so far, slayerdave has the best indicator of the UNC winning the elections.
I surprised that jack didn't measure the square footage of KFC and announce that they had over 1000 supporters in there alone.
You was born so or does it come natural....stupidity that is.
The KFC comment was to show that people were all around the town.
Surveys like the that says the corpses getting they backside kicked.....Or the one that says Duck and Run for PM but we voting PNM....or the one that Yetming has that says Corpses have 80% of the UNC base.
I really like how allyuh UNC supporters could only repeat what come out your political "leaders" mouth. About corpse and duck-and-run and one set of foolishness besides the real issues. Well ent Jack hire a architect to measure Woodford square? They doing anything to discredit the COP because they scared. Panday welcome back the same man who put him out of office, for good, so he could try and make this election.
I dunno what surveys you talking about but I suggest you go find a Sunday Guardian or look up the poll results posted here by Sirius. 6% approval for Panday and 5% for Kamla don't win no elections, Jack have even less.
I would love you to show me what survey or poll recently commissioned shows the COP trailing the UNC.
All the recent polls also have majority support against any opposition alliance. Allyuh UNC supporters really blind to the facts in front of you.
Maccogirl
10-08-2007, 11:47 PM
Hear this and it not coming from a UNC leader Dooks will not win his seat!!!!!
Sumana
10-08-2007, 11:49 PM
Sumana gurl I know you born into the politics and yuh doh take on all this talk.
Yuh is just ah passionate young woman and many woun't understand tht eh. :)
Thanks :)
slayerdave
10-08-2007, 11:50 PM
Nobody is denying that Panday did a lot for the people but his current lust for power has lead him to do whaetver it takes to try and retain it. I think the present is a better indication of what to expect from Bas than what he has done in the past.
Go read socawarriors.net forums about Jack Warner and how his busines practices made him so successful. FIFA even pulled him up for conflict of interest for the world cup debacle. Yuh remember who overpack the stadium in 1989? Who promise the soca warriors money for playing the world cup but only give them $5k each? How come he manage to buy the broacast rights for $1 and resell them for a bundle but ent give no players any money? How come his sons get all the contracts for the Under 17 world cup?
Jack in it for Jack and allyuh really getting fooled if you think he there to try and make the country better.
I real sorry to say this but Panday et al really played into Manning's ploy. He warned that the opposition would play the race card and what we get? Panday for the Indian vote and Jack for the Negro vote. In this day and age that is a sorry state of affairs.
Wait nah that is what you have boiling up in you so.......
They could be wrong but at least they trying something to bring some unity...
Wait nah you saying them in the corpses any different......my grand mother went to she grave and still didn't not get she money from summit finance.
Dookeran lead that team with a few different faces in '91 and gave the PNM the government, and the man so smart that he doing it again.
cm103
10-08-2007, 11:52 PM
Hear this and it not coming from a UNC leader Dooks will not win his seat!!!!!
Panday done erode his support in Couva North as well. I wouldn't be surprised if he chased votes to the PNM in his own constituency by his antics.
All that talk that he will go when the people say so. Well they said so already and his own party failed to renew his seat in parliament. What would that tell a normal, reasonable person?
Maccogirl
10-08-2007, 11:54 PM
One more time !!! Hear this and it not coming from a UNC leader Dooks will not win his seat!!!!! :D
JPersad
10-08-2007, 11:56 PM
One more time !!! Hear this and it not coming from a UNC leader Dooks will not win his seat!!!!! :D
The only safe seats are the PNM safe seats .
Things not looking well for Bas in Couva North .
cm103
10-08-2007, 11:58 PM
Nobody is denying that Panday did a lot for the people but his current lust for power has lead him to do whaetver it takes to try and retain it. I think the present is a better indication of what to expect from Bas than what he has done in the past.
Go read socawarriors.net forums about Jack Warner and how his busines practices made him so successful. FIFA even pulled him up for conflict of interest for the world cup debacle. Yuh remember who overpack the stadium in 1989? Who promise the soca warriors money for playing the world cup but only give them $5k each? How come he manage to buy the broacast rights for $1 and resell them for a bundle but ent give no players any money? How come his sons get all the contracts for the Under 17 world cup?
Jack in it for Jack and allyuh really getting fooled if you think he there to try and make the country better.
I real sorry to say this but Panday et al really played into Manning's ploy. He warned that the opposition would play the race card and what we get? Panday for the Indian vote and Jack for the Negro vote. In this day and age that is a sorry state of affairs.
Wait nah that is what you have boiling up in you so.......
They could be wrong but at least they trying something to bring some unity...
Wait nah you saying them in the corpses any different......my grand mother went to she grave and still didn't not get she money from summit finance.
Dookeran lead that team with a few different faces in '91 and gave the PNM the government, and the man so smart that he doing it again.
So because of what happen over 15 years ago you not supporting a COP government but a UNC false alliance with an obvious power hungry dictator at the helm you go back to form the next government?
Panday barely holding on to his party right now. More people leaving than coming in and is a set of yes men he have there now.
The real performers done leave the UNC. Ah bet yuh jump up to stain yuh finger when they were part of the UNC.
Maccogirl
10-08-2007, 11:59 PM
How things looking for Dyer, Pires and Garcia?? :D allyuh taking D/martin from the PNM tell meh now because if its so I going by Rowely and ask him for a T-Shirt :D :D
slayerdave
10-09-2007, 12:00 AM
I really like how allyuh UNC supporters could only repeat what come out your political "leaders" mouth. About corpse and duck-and-run and one set of foolishness besides the real issues. Well ent Jack hire a architect to measure Woodford square? They doing anything to discredit the COP because they scared. Panday welcome back the same man who put him out of office, for good, so he could try and make this election.
I dunno what surveys you talking about but I suggest you go find a Sunday Guardian or look up the poll results posted here by Sirius. 6% approval for Panday and 5% for Kamla don't win no elections, Jack have even less.
I would love you to show me what survey or poll recently commissioned shows the COP trailing the UNC.
All the recent polls also have majority support against any opposition alliance. Allyuh UNC supporters really blind to the facts in front of you.
You talking ANSA poll.........breds this is 2007 get real nah. That poll so skewed that it in a whole new graph.
Yes my brother that something corpses will never understand, once you able to forgive you can move on......
You does listen to people like Manohar, Ganga and Sadiq not two whole sentence does come out their mouth and is Panday Panday, Panday......like something hurting them,like they know thats the end of their political carers.
slayerdave
10-09-2007, 12:01 AM
How things looking for Dyer, Pires and Garcia?? :D allyuh taking D/martin from the PNM tell meh now because if its so I going by Rowely and ask him for a T-Shirt :D :D
And when we tell them the fighting the UNC for opposition they does get vex.
slayerdave
10-09-2007, 12:04 AM
Things not looking well for Bas in Couva North .
Boy and you not seeing the agenda of the corpses.....
Maccogirl
10-09-2007, 12:07 AM
Rocky Garcia better stop eating doubles in St. James and do some heavy ground work because Rowley aint even breaking a sweat over him, John Humphrey went on the radio saying he helping Garcia bring it home :D bring what home :D he must be helping pick up the pieces when Rowley done with him :D :D
JPersad
10-09-2007, 12:08 AM
Things not looking well for Bas in Couva North .
Boy and you not seeing the agenda of the corpses.....
Carry on....
I hope to see you on the forum the morning after the elections.
cm103
10-09-2007, 12:09 AM
Forgive and forget? Once you not in the UNC you get called one set of name but once you come back all is forgiven? What change? Ramesh still run Panday out of office and he go leave this world without seeing it again. Well yuh could keep yuh mud slinging and stupid talk and we go keep on making progress. Tell Panday step aside and the opposition coalition could take place against the real enemy. They studying to fight the COP since all their support going that way and they all go end up politically dead after Nov 5th.
Ansa Mcal poll skewed but Jack measuring Woodford Sq. and saying it cyah hold as much as the COP say was there more scientific?
Panday only like them who could help him win no matter what they do him. When is not election time he running everyone. This is he last shot, he lose he seat and he go have to crawl home and hope the papers interview him now and again so people ent go forget him
Since when Maccogirl so happy about a PNM candidate winning?
Why he stay so quiet when they was closing caroni?
slayerdave
10-09-2007, 12:13 AM
Experts: UNC still a force to be reckoned with
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161213836 (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161213836)
Anyone who thought the United National Congress (UNC) Alliance was a dead political force should now think again, political analysts Professors Selwyn Ryan and John La Guerre said yesterday.
Ryan said that the UNC Alliance's presentation of 21 candidates on Sunday, which was attended by a crowd of thousands at Mid Centre Mall in Chaguanas, may have proven to be the surprise of the election race so far.
"We certainly have a three-way fight on our hands, with outcomes at the moment that are unpredictable," Ryan said in a telephone interview.
Until Sunday, there were some who concluded that the race for the general election was only between the ruling People's National Movement (PNM) and the minority-Opposition party, the Congress of the People (COP).
UNC Political Leader Basdeo Panday has been fighting legal battles and there had also been some turmoil in the UNC Alliance, after he and UNC Deputy Political Leader Jack Warner were selected as its co-leaders.
"The UNC's display of force and energy must have come as a shock and surprise to many people who assumed that it was dead. It is clearly not dead. Panday is clearly not dead," Ryan said.
La Guerre agreed, saying, "I think a lot of people were surprised."
He added, "It certainly showed a heightened interest on the part of UNC members in the upcoming election in terms of the turnout."
He said much of the credit for that turnout should go to Warner, who, as a co-leader of the UNC Alliance, is also its chairman.
"I think that he was largely responsible for the organisation, the initiative that when into that event, which seems to have justified his selection by the leadership council as the chairman of the UNC Alliance," La Guerre said.
Maccogirl
10-09-2007, 12:15 AM
You say you are an old frat that knows politics well then you should know that under the NAR government one of the dictates of the IMF was to close 28 state funded companies, Caroni was one of them so we have the NAR, Dooks , Wilson to thank for that, you know politics you have to be joking :D so go and check your facts nah!!!
slayerdave
10-09-2007, 12:16 AM
Carry on....
I hope to see you on the forum the morning after the elections.
I will be here will you.......
By the way who you voting for Obama or Clinton.
slayerdave
10-09-2007, 12:18 AM
How corpses does say you don't pelt a tree that has no fruit...........
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161213828 (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161213828)
Ganga: Ramesh, not Winston, the Judas
Caroni East MP Ganga Singh has described former attorney general Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj as the "Judas" in the UNC Alliance camp, adding he has no right to criticise the Congress of the People (COP).
"Ramesh has no moral authority to talk about visiting every constituency to explain to people why they should not vote for the COP. First, he should explain to the same people about the done deal between Manning and himself and the conspiracy to remove the UNC from government," Singh said yesterday.
Singh said the COP is about unity and uniting the votes behind the principles and values anchored on pure dignity, "while Ramesh is a source of disunity, clearly demonstrated by his failure to embrace Kamla on the platform".
He added that Maharaj's claim to be uninterested in power or holding any office was just another form of fraud.
"Observe that Ramesh always emerges at election time. What does this action mean? It is obvious that he is hungry for political power," he said.
He added that Maharaj is on a campaign against the COP as part of a plan to have the People's National Movement remain in office.
"Ramesh Maharaj, Jack Warner and Basdeo Panday are the ones to be feared. So the Judas he (Panday) was referring to had to have been Ramesh Maharaj, a man he has reinstated on his political platform," Singh said.
On Sunday, UNC political leader Basdeo Panday said the new fearsome foursome was himself, Maharaj, UNC Alliance chairman Jack Warner and Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar. Panday has referred to COP political leader Winston Dookeran as a "Judas" for cutting ties with the party and forming his own.
"How can Basdeo Panday refer to a 'Judas' when he is entertaining one on his own stage? ... the only political leader with clean hands and a clear conscience today is the Honourable Winston Dookeran," Singh said.
JPersad
10-09-2007, 12:22 AM
Experts: UNC still a force to be reckoned with
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161213836 (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161213836)
Anyone who thought the United National Congress (UNC) Alliance was a dead political force should now think again, political analysts Professors Selwyn Ryan and John La Guerre said yesterday.
Ryan said that the UNC Alliance's presentation of 21 candidates on Sunday, which was attended by a crowd of thousands at Mid Centre Mall in Chaguanas, may have proven to be the surprise of the election race so far.
"We certainly have a three-way fight on our hands, with outcomes at the moment that are unpredictable," Ryan said in a telephone interview.
Until Sunday, there were some who concluded that the race for the general election was only between the ruling People's National Movement (PNM) and the minority-Opposition party, the Congress of the People (COP).
UNC Political Leader Basdeo Panday has been fighting legal battles and there had also been some turmoil in the UNC Alliance, after he and UNC Deputy Political Leader Jack Warner were selected as its co-leaders.
"The UNC's display of force and energy must have come as a shock and surprise to many people who assumed that it was dead. It is clearly not dead. Panday is clearly not dead," Ryan said.
La Guerre agreed, saying, "I think a lot of people were surprised."
He added, "It certainly showed a heightened interest on the part of UNC members in the upcoming election in terms of the turnout."
He said much of the credit for that turnout should go to Warner, who, as a co-leader of the UNC Alliance, is also its chairman.
"I think that he was largely responsible for the organisation, the initiative that when into that event, which seems to have justified his selection by the leadership council as the chairman of the UNC Alliance," La Guerre said.
"We certainly have a three-way fight on our hands, with outcomes at the moment that are unpredictable," Ryan said in a telephone interview.
Read over the highlighted line !
But I saying that a while back ....
What Ryan did not say that when it is over the UNC will be in decline
cm103
10-09-2007, 12:25 AM
Why don't you post the articles about Panday being power hungry? You really think that go help him get votes with that type of press? Not everyone is as easily fooled as you guys.
slayerdave
10-09-2007, 12:27 AM
"We certainly have a three-way fight on our hands, with outcomes at the moment that are unpredictable," Ryan said in a telephone interview.
Read over the highlighted line !
But I saying that a while back ....
What Ryan did not say that when it is over the UNC will be in decline
Yea and the minority party aka corpses will be the cause of a PNM victory.
JPersad
10-09-2007, 12:28 AM
Carry on....
I hope to see you on the forum the morning after the elections.
I will be here will you.......
By the way who you voting for Obama or Clinton.
Neither .Joe Biden
I have been on this forum since inception and I have no intenton of going anywhere .
My boldest prediction is the UNC is on the decline .
If I am proven wrong , I will take my cutarse like a man , and admit that I was wrong .
Can you say the same ?
Maccogirl
10-09-2007, 12:29 AM
"I think that he was largely responsible for the organisation, the initiative that when into that event, which seems to have justified his selection by the leadership council as the chairman of the UNC Alliance," La Guerre said.
This line even better :D :D :D :D
Maccogirl
10-09-2007, 12:31 AM
JP yuh ketch that manicou as yet, I have one in the yard I will see if I can ketch it fuh yuh :D :D
cm103
10-09-2007, 12:32 AM
"We certainly have a three-way fight on our hands, with outcomes at the moment that are unpredictable," Ryan said in a telephone interview.
Read over the highlighted line !
But I saying that a while back ....
What Ryan did not say that when it is over the UNC will be in decline
Yea and the minority party aka corpses will be the cause of a PNM victory.
If that should happen then Panday should blame himself. The people don't want to see any alliance with panday just to win an election. If he stepped aside then talks could commence.
Go read Cadiz's press report on your leader and how he really move with his own alliance members.
Allyuh cling to any branch in this storm, I sure if them same two analyst come out later on and say that UNC lost all their support you'll go throw one set of stone.
JPersad
10-09-2007, 12:36 AM
JP yuh ketch that manicou as yet, I have one in the yard I will see if I can ketch it fuh yuh :D :D
I decline .
I hear UNCites love manicou, so yuh could give it to them to make ah cook !
Maccogirl
10-09-2007, 12:38 AM
La Guerre is one man that is not a lover of the UNC or Panday he has said many time that UNC was losing ground, but now he has admitted that he was wrong what is so difficult in dealing with that?? Many on the call in radio programs has said the same thing also and some of them COP/PNM supporters god you mean all yuh just cannot admit that you all called it wrong???
Scorpio
10-09-2007, 02:39 AM
and here's another view of what took place at Mid center mall on Saturday....
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161213830 (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161213830)
'UNC Alliance rally was just a big fete'
THE UNITED National Congress Alliance's Mid Centre Mall crowd on Sunday was an illusion, and it cost $1 million in transport to take people there to fete all day, former UNC chairman Kama Maharaj has said.
He predicted that the COP would get 300,000 votes in the three-way race, and win government.
Maharaj made the comment at the opening Sunday night of the constituency office for attorney Kevin Ratiram, the COP's candidate for Oropouche West. The office is located at Lall's Shopping Complex, Debe.
Ratiram is expected to go up against the UNC's Mickela Panday and the People's National Movement's Rahgunath Mahabir.
Maharaj said he became disenchanted when Panday began selling the party to a group of financiers. He said he protested by not holding a national executive meeting for two years.
He said: "When you sell your party they own you, and you have to do whatever they want. History has repeated itself and the UNC has been sold to a single financier."
He added: "I told Mr Panday I still love him but your vehicle has broken down. You cannot win. We need a new vehicle."
Maharaj said he knew the election tricks the UNC used to make a crowd look big.
"You always go to Mid Centre Mall. I know the strategy because we always put a big stage, but this time it was twice the size.
"We put tents all around the car park and the inside gets really small. We will bring any amount of people we can find. We never knew that place could hold more than 5,000."
The UNC Alliance said there were more than 40,000 people.
But Maharaj said, "From my understanding, they spent over $1 million in transport alone to create this illusion they had all this support. Two political parties held rallies on Saturday. What we saw on Sunday was a big fete."
Dispatcher
10-09-2007, 03:52 AM
and here's another view of what took place at Mid center mall on Saturday....
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161213830 (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161213830)
'UNC Alliance rally was just a big fete'
The Express seems to be coming up with some headlines there where they just picking what some irrelevant entity with a grouse against UNCA have to say and making it sound like an investigative truth.
Scorpio
10-09-2007, 04:00 AM
and here's another view of what took place at Mid center mall on Saturday....
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161213830 (http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=161213830)
'UNC Alliance rally was just a big fete'
The Express seems to be coming up with some headlines there where they just picking what some irrelevant entity with a grouse against UNCA have to say and making it sound like an investigative truth.
I just posted another view, make of it what you will, I am trying to remain focused on the real issues, rather than who had de biggest crowd at dey rally or dey fete or whatever. :evil:
He had to be given sedatives because it was to much stress for him.
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We doh ha more important issues to discuss than who faint and who not faint? What roll does it play in poliics? De man not sick! Think of all the immoral, corrupt, heartless ignorant greedy, non-functional , non-fainting politics we surrounded by!! Please pple, leave de man health/privacy alone. he is de only one offering de nation salvation from de hell we living in. Like we all have fallen into the Love/Abuse relationship and cannot leave! Give him a chance and if after 5 yre, he has not produced, then start pouncing on him. Cant we leave the old behind and accept change ?
He had to be given sedatives because it was to much stress for him.
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We doh ha more important issues to discuss than who faint and who not faint? What roll does it play in poliics? De man not sick! Think of all the immoral, corrupt, heartless ignorant greedy, non-functional , non-fainting politics we surrounded by!! Please pple, leave de man health/privacy alone. he is de only one offering de nation salvation from de hell we living in. Like we all have fallen into the Love/Abuse relationship and cannot leave! Give him a chance and if after 5 yre, he has not produced, then start pouncing on him. Cant we leave the old behind and accept change ?
Dispatcher
10-09-2007, 04:17 AM
One more time !!! Hear this and it not coming from a UNC leader Dooks will not win his seat!!!!! :D
There is no way Dookeran can win St. Augustine. In the last polls UNC got >8K, PNM got >4k
No way more than 4k voters from UNC base leaving to vote COP. Cop votes won't matter in St. Augustine or other traditional UNC areas. How they will make a diference in marginal seats like Tunapuna, Mayaro, Sando West, etc.
In 1991 Dookeran in Chagunas lost to then unknown Hulsie even though he was fighting for the NAR, a party then in power with many resources of the state available to him. Now they requesting money from the public to help fight their campaign!
Unless COP voters realise that a vote for COP is really a vote for PNM (splitting the UNCA vote), voting for their conscience will only put PNM in power. And when Manning take control hope they can sleep at night with their conscience.
Scorpio
10-09-2007, 04:25 AM
One more time !!! Hear this and it not coming from a UNC leader Dooks will not win his seat!!!!! :D
There is no way Dookeran can win St. Augustine. In the last polls UNC got >8K, PNM got >4k
No way more than 4k voters from UNC base leaving to vote COP. Cop votes won't matter in St. Augustine or other traditional UNC areas. How they will make a diference in marginal seats like Tunapuna, Mayaro, Sando West, etc.
In 1991 Dookeran in Chagunas lost to then unknown Hulsie even though he was fighting for the NAR, a party then in power with many resources of the state available to him. Now they requesting money from the public to help fight their campaign!
Unless COP voters realise that a vote for COP is really a vote for PNM (splitting the UNCA vote), voting for their conscience will only put PNM in power. And when Manning take control hope they can sleep at night with their conscience.
2 things about the above, first, in 1986 the combined votes of PNM & NAR in St Augustine was around 16K, so if in 2002 only 12K voted that mean there are 4K voters who didn't vote . Why yuh think that is ?
secondly, people with a conscience will never vote for Panday, that would be just as bad as voting for Manning.
Dispatcher
10-09-2007, 04:28 AM
The Express seems to be coming up with some headlines there where they just picking what some irrelevant entity with a grouse against UNCA have to say and making it sound like an investigative truth.
I just posted another view, make of it what you will, I am trying to remain focused on the real issues, rather than who had de biggest crowd at dey rally or dey fete or whatever. :evil:
No problem with whatever view is posted. Just wanted to show how bias the media can be in their reporting. I mean Kama Maraj (nar, unc, cop) flip fopper that nobody has heard from in donkeys years get Express headline with a ridiculous statement.
Crowds don't win elections but they do provide a good litmus test of the party support base.
Dispatcher
10-09-2007, 04:38 AM
There is no way Dookeran can win St. Augustine. In the last polls UNC got >8K, PNM got >4k
No way more than 4k voters from UNC base leaving to vote COP. Cop votes won't matter in St. Augustine or other traditional UNC areas. How they will make a diference in marginal seats like Tunapuna, Mayaro, Sando West, etc.
In 1991 Dookeran in Chagunas lost to then unknown Hulsie even though he was fighting for the NAR, a party then in power with many resources of the state available to him. Now they requesting money from the public to help fight their campaign!
Unless COP voters realise that a vote for COP is really a vote for PNM (splitting the UNCA vote), voting for their conscience will only put PNM in power. And when Manning take control hope they can sleep at night with their conscience.
2 things about the above, first, in 1986 the combined votes of PNM & NAR in St Augustine was around 16K, so if in 2002 only 12K voted that mean there are 4K voters who didn't vote . Why yuh think that is ?
secondly, people with a conscience will never vote for Panday, that would be just as bad as voting for Manning.
One important thing - This is not 1986. In 1986 the country was on high for change. The concept of Unity drove alot of usually non-voters to come out and vote to get rid of the PNM who at the time were openly involved in corruption (all ah we tief) mentality.
A second consideration is the bickering between the COP and UNC-A is a far cry from convincing your fence sitters that voting will make a difference.
It's still early days yet in the campaign. And by the time the opposition parties come out with their sides of the story many a mind will change.
Scorpio
10-09-2007, 07:27 AM
Agreed, this is not 1986, but I am just pointing out the power of the undecided voters, it is really for COP, UNCA, or PNM to attract such voters to the polls.
Dispatcher
10-09-2007, 07:40 AM
Agreed the undecided voters really won't be drawn to Panday nor Manning. Nether do I think they will be drawn to the host of recycled disgruntled politicians that make up the bulk of COP.
Though COP will attact some fence-sitters it will not be enough to win any seats. History will repeat itself.
Scorpio
10-09-2007, 07:42 AM
Agreed the undecided voters really won't be drawn to Panday nor Manning. Nether do I think they will be drawn to the host of recycled disgruntled politicians that make up the bulk of COP.
Though COP will attact some fence-sitters it will not be enough to win any seats. History will repeat itself.
Right, hence we're back to the conscience vote issue. ;)
Dispatcher
10-09-2007, 08:35 AM
Agreed the undecided voters really won't be drawn to Panday nor Manning. Nether do I think they will be drawn to the host of recycled disgruntled politicians that make up the bulk of COP.
Though COP will attact some fence-sitters it will not be enough to win any seats. History will repeat itself.
Right, hence we're back to the conscience vote issue. ;)
Yeah but how you will sleep at night when you tell yourself your conscience caused Manning to be back in his palace as the Executive President of this Republic?
Sometimes in life we have to make sacrifices to achieve a greater goal even though our conscience may tell us otherwise.
JediKnight
10-09-2007, 08:42 AM
Yeah but how you will sleep at night when you tell yourself your conscience caused Manning to be back in his palace as the Executive President of this Republic?
Sometimes in life we have to make sacrifices to achieve a greater goal even though our conscience may tell us otherwise.
Agreed. But with the voracious appetite Panday has displayed in his quest for power, it is equally disturbing if he becomes PM. The majority of people are saying that he is the one standing in the way of unity, but he continues to hold on for dear life. I was glad to see a former Leadership Counsel member saying that exact thing. There was an agreement for Kamla to lead, but out of the blue Panday ups and jump in. No one on this forum can deny that if there is a united force with Dookeran, Kamla and Jack at the helm, it will walk away with the elections. The same can't be said for Dookeran, Panday and Jack.
cm103
10-09-2007, 08:43 AM
Agreed the undecided voters really won't be drawn to Panday nor Manning. Nether do I think they will be drawn to the host of recycled disgruntled politicians that make up the bulk of COP.
Though COP will attact some fence-sitters it will not be enough to win any seats. History will repeat itself.
Right, hence we're back to the conscience vote issue. ;)
Yeah but how you will sleep at night when you tell yourself your conscience caused Manning to be back in his palace as the Executive President of this Republic?
Sometimes in life we have to make sacrifices to achieve a greater goal even though our conscience may tell us otherwise.
That is something Panday needs to ask himself. If the COP has said they would consider an alliance without Panday and the majority of the population already tired of him, why would he stay?
Appoint Kamla in charge, step aside and let Kamla and Dooks talk it out and come to some sort of agreement. COP have support because the people tired of the same old UNC and PNM power hunger and want a change for the better. If Dooks just run back to the UNC then it's the same old thing.
Allyuh remember how the NAR get treated in the first coalition after Vincent and Lasse cross the floor? You think anyone else go willing go get the shaft from Panday now after he show how he can be?
Bas don't want anyone else in charge.... he is de boss... kamla is the ideal person to lead the party... but she get sidelined... i don't think ppl really listened to her fury on Sunday... Jack whey yuh com from to lead the party... Kamla fought hard and stuck at Bas side every step of the way... now she hurt dat she not leader.... de woman say dat she hurt and dissapointed...
serenity
10-09-2007, 09:11 AM
Sometimes in life we have to make sacrifices to achieve a greater goal even though our conscience may tell us otherwise.
That statement in the context of voting makes sense to u?! :shock:
How can any political entity hope to win an election if to do so would require the electorate to vote against their conscience?!
What makes them so repulsive to one's conscience in the first place? Is it Panday? Then why Panday dont act against his conscience and ride out?
That has to be the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard on this forum. And whats even more alarming is that ppl agreed with it.
Well yes!
Dispatcher
10-09-2007, 09:23 AM
CM103, Vaio:
Yes yes we know Panday is an obstacle for many though still admired by core supporters.
I am thinking about the country, party and representatives. Not just focusing on leader (Jack) or leader helper (Bas).
Do we want a new team that can bring new ideas for crime, cost of living, productive employment, etc or are happy to say I don't like that person so I will vote in a way that will surely put back an incompetant government.
If UNCA should win it would be the MP who gains the support of the majority of those in the lower house who will determine the PM. It does not have to be Panday because currently he is not even the leader of the UNCA. I'm not naive, I'm sure Panday will vie for the top job.
But if COP should unite and its members win seats in the house they can influence who the PM would be.
Panday is not going to be around for much longer. The opportunity for others to succeed him with a strong party, free from a maximum leader is not far away.
However splitting votes will only weaken the oppositions and strengthen the PNM.
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