Chunkay / Chokha

[Falcon]

With brag, sapodilla, Satya, Mivo, Dim and all relevant others around, I thought I might give this thread a spin on this forum.

I was intrigued to know that while we call our veg side dishes chokha, people in north India say sabjhe. It was equally interesting to learn that chokha was their term for what I knew as chunkay. There was no chunkay in the lady's vocabulary. I have spoken to many north Indians but this lady was the first one to have so many terms in common with me. For instance, baigan, carella, etc. Wasn't from modern day UP, but close to Delhi which was part of the larger UP state pre 60s/70s.

Good stuff!

(She didn't know what chataignier was though!! :P )

[Mivo]

Falcon Chunkay and Choka is different:
Chunkay is the preparation before you cook your vege or meats: ie curry or stew
chokha is when you roast the veges ie: tomatoes, baigan on top your stove or grill, aloo chokha is made with boil aloo

ah wonder if they know the chataignier as katahar or jackfruit:?: :?:

[vaio]

but yuh does chunkay the choka.. ;)

[Falcon]

Falcon Chunkay and Choka is different:
Chunkay is the preparation before you cook your vege or meats: ie curry or stew
chokha is when you roast the veges ie: tomatoes, baigan on top your stove or grill, aloo chokha is made with boil aloo

ah wonder if they know the chataignier as katahar or jackfruit:?: :?:
Yes Mivo, I know the Trini meanings of these....but I am saying that:
Trini Chunkay is Indian Choka
Trini Choka is Indian Sabjhe

[sapodila]

Okay Falcon........I too have been literally learning from my Northern Indian posse.

Subzie "sabjhe" is vegetables.

Choka is Bhoujpouri I believe, which is a different language altogether, but to the Northern Indians 'choka' is really 'BATURA.'

'Chunkay' is really to fry or saute.... again this is bhoj land language... a part of Uttar Pradesh or Upper Country / State

I have been to Native Northern Indians kitchen, dined with them and have found many many similarities with our foods in Trinidad. For example, corn roti , sada roti, kaloungie, sweet rice, achar, our buss up shut paratha, gulabjamoon, halwa - many varies, goat foot soup and many more, just like my mother's and grand mother's cooking. I have also dined with some Bengali folks and their dhal, rice and curried fish seemed like it came straight out of a Trinidad kitchen. Also , I noticed that just like my family, they too did not cook with too much pepper, that was served on the side.

[brag]

Sap understands it the same way I do.

[Solachica]

we have same words with different stuff to the Indians...like wht we say is goolab jamoon is something else for them

[Sumana]

we have same words with different stuff to the Indians...like wht we say is goolab jamoon is something else for them


:lol: :lol: :lol: naw trinis just call those things the wrong things, it always gets me pissed

[Triniboy108]

well trini hindi is bhojpuri, which is almost a completely separate language from standard hindi

so it could just be different words..just like everyone has said above ^^

[deeva]

Chokha ..is 'chokha' in Bihar ....any person from Bihar can tell you that cus they also make "chokha" , both are make the same way , chokha made in Trinidad and Bihar both taste the same

Tarkari is any vegetable side dish , which is the same as "subjie"

Chunkay is sometimes called "chonknaa" in Bhojpuri which is the same is "tadka" in Hindi

Tarkari = talkari = subjie = vegetable side dish
chunkay = chonknaa= tadka=tarka

[guyguy]

ah wonder if they know the chataignier as katahar or jackfruit:?: :?:
Ah jess see dis Thread. What is Chataignier? Is that the fruit like the breadfruit? Never heard of Katahar. Please describe in detail. And Jackfruit is known a Kowa.

[sylvestter]

there's a local tv show on gayedlle called 'chunkay in central'.
i always wondered what the term meant.

thanks for the clarification!

[sapodila]

ah wonder if they know the chataignier as katahar or jackfruit:?: :?:
Ah jess see dis Thread.
What is Chataignier? Check with the Falcon . :lol: Is that the fruit like the breadfruit? Never heard of Katahar. Please describe in detail. And Jackfruit is known a Kowa.

[Falcon]

like the breadfruit, like the breadfruit.... :roll:

he is such a wannabe Yankee...... :lol:
Oye, GuyGuy, we have established, ad nauseum on TTOnline, that Kowa is Jackfruit. No points for repeating answers.

[guyguy]

like the breadfruit, like the breadfruit.... :roll:

he is such a wannabe Yankee...... :lol:
Oye, GuyGuy, we have established, ad nauseum on TTOnline, that Kowa is Jackfruit. No points for repeating answers.
Yuh does spell Chataigne [Sha-tine] like dat ... "Chataignier"? Since wen? Allyuh tong people eh. Always tryin tuh cornfuze we bush people but we lorn to make gyarden in de bak ah we house. Dais why we know how to plant we own food like damadole an bodi an carailie an peas an bhaji and bud pepper an congo pepper an rice an cane. We mudda an fadda an aja an ajee an nana an nanny teech we dem ting since we lorn tuh walk.

[punjabtrini]

Somebody tell me dat 'chatine' or shatine' (sound too much like sh*tine), i was spelling it wrong. It supposed to be chataigne (or something like dat) so ah tell dem, I aint no snail eater!

Jus' like pommecetay!

[Solachica]

Pommecythere.


How to really spell tht?

[guyguy]

Pommecythere.


How to really spell tht?
Ah shall tell you as soon as yuh learn how to spell a simple word such as that, not tht. Only then can we move on to five-letter words, then six, seven, etc. :D :D :D

[Mivo]

Pommecythere.
How to really spell tht?

Yes Sola!

Guy u like thing eh

[guyguy]

Pommecythere.
How to really spell tht?

Yes Sola!

Guy u like thing eh
Ah jess jokin' wit Sola ... :D :D :D

[Solachica]

:D is all good.

[Falcon]

Guy is a knife and fork Indian. UNC how he drinkin that nut???
Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!! :D :lol: Oiii mi belly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

[Solachica]

Is straw he drinking with? :D

[Falcon]

Sola you seeing any coconut selling dey? It have fig and pine. :lol: Maybe mango too.

Guy pick that up 'side ah d road' and posing in front of ah fruit stall like ah damn never see come see. Aye he so silly.

[guyguy]

Sola you seeing any coconut selling dey? It have fig and pine. :lol: Maybe mango too.

Guy pick that up 'side ah d road' and posing in front of ah fruit stall like ah damn never see come see. Aye he so silly.
Yuh jess jellus. Dat was taken in Hawaii in December. Can you imagine dey have silk fig an Chataigne too? And de coconuts were like the Chinese variety we have at home. Check out dis pix and drool ...Bahahahaha....

[sapodila]

eh.... ah tell yuh! and Trinis who residing on the islands ( yes dey hav dem dey too :D ) does feel shame to pick up the mango and other fruits when it fall from the tree...........Nice Pics dey Uncs! :)

[guyguy]

eh.... ah tell yuh! and Trinis who residing on the islands ( yes dey hav dem dey too :D ) does feel shame to pick up the mango and other fruits when it fall from the tree...........Nice Pics dey Uncs! :)
Well, this time wasn't mango season but earlier in the year when I was there, it was. Dem people have all kinda mango and the trees laden fuh so. Dey doh even eat dem. One day ah went drivin about and ah see about 5 mango tree in a fella yard. Ah stop, ring he doorbell, and ask him if ah cud buy some mango. He start to laff, get me ah big shopping bag, and tell me to take all ah want for free. Ah pick ripe ones, haff ripe ones an green ones so ah would have mango all week at meh hotel.

At my hotel, I called he kitchen and had them send up some salt, garlic, onion, cilantro and a knife and big bowl. Ah drove dong to de local market and find congo pepper. Ah come back to meh room and make ah big bowl ah mango chow. Den ah call the bell boy and the cook who sent up the ingredients and gave them ah taste. Dey start to eat like mard but when the congo pepper hit dem, dey start tuh bawl for water. Great fun.

[gaia]

Chataigne is the french for chestnut.