My Cholesterol

[vaio]

I did a blood test a couple weeks ago and went for the results this morning. The Dr said that my cholesterol was 248 :o

Now i am stressed out. I thought i ate healthy and i would normally exercise, i find the results to be very strange. So i've been given a nutrition sheet and 6 weeks to lower my cholesterol or else i go on medication :s:

Good news is everything else is fine


Countdown to lower my cholesterol begins :s:

[Solachica]

any medication you were on?
i was on medication tht sent my levels high

[Solachica]

bw, wey yuh dey

[vaio]

any medication you were on?
i was on medication tht sent my levels high

nope nothing at all :s:

[Scorpio]

Vaio, 248 is not extremely bad, you could bring that back to an acceptable level easy.

Mine was something like 180 last time I checked.

[vaio]

i know i can bring it back down, its just that i eat healthy and exercise so why should it be that high :confused:

[Falcon]

vaio, many things could have affected that test: I'd test 3 times before I was sure of a result which required me to change lifestyle.

[vaio]

:hmmmm: i suppose i should get another test done and take it from there. However, it won't hurt to take a closer look at my lifestyle esp since i doh really have problems eating healthy and exercising.

[Chicabonita]

:hmmmm: i suppose i should get another test done and take it from there. However, it won't hurt to take a closer look at my lifestyle esp since i doh really have problems eating healthy and exercising.

What is healthy according to you? (I ask because it seems like it's different for everyone)

[vaio]

lots of vegetables - mostly green and mostly steamed, little meat and if i do have meat its chicken - grilled, baked and very rarely some fried, fish and sometimes shrimp, fruits and a little almonds.

I must admit though that i do indulge in one quarter of sada roti 4 dys/week.

I rarely drink soft drinks but i enjoy crangrape and water.

i normally exercise at least 3 times a week for about an hour a day.

See my aim was to become a blood donor this year so i made a conscious effort to be healthy.

[vaio]

oh and my tea/coffee is with very little or no added sugar :s:

[indie]

:hmmmm: i suppose i should get another test done and take it from there. However, it won't hurt to take a closer look at my lifestyle esp since i doh really have problems eating healthy and exercising.

U shud definitely get another test done....sometimes these laboratories tend to mix up patients results. Try Occupational Health Solutions Gaston Street Chaguanas....They are very efficient!!!

[vaio]

i'll do that, thanx :)

[Scorpio]

Vaio, try drinking white tea instaed of ordinary tea or coffee. I had a thread about white tea sometime last year, not sure if it is available in Trinidad, but that is what I start my day off with everyday - white tea, sometimes with a little honey.

[Scorpio]

here is the thread ....

http://www.ttonline.org/threads/9269-Tea

[Wayne]

I take 1 tablet of Slo Niacin (500mg) and 1 tablet of Rosuvastatin(Crestor)....40mg every night before I go to sleep......to control my
Cholesterol levels...............this is what my doctor prescribed for me.

[mivs]

Vaio get another test!

[mivs]

ah few ppl ah noe taking crestor

[Chicabonita]

lots of vegetables - mostly green and mostly steamed, little meat and if i do have meat its chicken - grilled, baked and very rarely some fried, fish and sometimes shrimp, fruits and a little almonds.

I must admit though that i do indulge in one quarter of sada roti 4 dys/week.

I rarely drink soft drinks but i enjoy crangrape and water.

i normally exercise at least 3 times a week for about an hour a day.

See my aim was to become a blood donor this year so i made a conscious effort to be healthy.

Chicken (and eggs), butter, ice cream, meats in general are high in cholesterol. Maybe you need to cut a lil on your consumption of meat and sada roti! And of course, take another test.

[Poser]

i tested mine together with my PSA earlier this year it was about 165 ....

regular sex ... and regular walking for me

.

[Scorpio]

Vaio, yuh confused yet ?

[vaio]

Vaio, try drinking white tea instaed of ordinary tea or coffee. I had a thread about white tea sometime last year, not sure if it is available in Trinidad, but that is what I start my day off with everyday - white tea, sometimes with a little honey.

not really seen that here though :s:

[vaio]

I take 1 tablet of Slo Niacin (500mg) and 1 tablet of Rosuvastatin(Crestor)....40mg every night before I go to sleep......to control my
Cholesterol levels...............this is what my doctor prescribed for me.

i want to avoid taking pills and leave that as a very last resort hence my change in diet and lifestyle :)

[vaio]

Vaio get another test!

i will do that.

[vaio]

Chicken (and eggs), butter, ice cream, meats in general are high in cholesterol. Maybe you need to cut a lil on your consumption of meat and sada roti! And of course, take another test.

yup, already cut back on the roti :( and meat is like once a week but that is no problem as i prefer vegs lol

[vaio]

i tested mine together with my PSA earlier this year it was about 165 ....

regular sex ... and regular walking for me

.

lol good for you P

[vaio]

Vaio, yuh confused yet ?

lol lol ah getting advice from every angle but is all good.

[Falcon]

Vaio, were you busy in the few hours prior to taking the test? Stress can make the readings artificially high.

Your diet sound quite good. If I was pressed into suggesting something, I'd like you to say you ate more fish than just rarely. Once your water intake is high, I doubt that test result very much.

[indie]

i'll do that, thanx :)

You are most welcome Vai, but if your cholesterol is really high, u shud also try eating some uncooked quaker oats...I heard this from a reliable source...

[Scorpio]

lol lol ah getting advice from every angle but is all good.

Like everbody have they own cure, lol.

[Mailman]

All responses thus far would indicate that the lipid hypothesis is alive and well.

So, let me get this straight.
A doctor told you that your cholesterol is 248 and you're now freaked out? Why?

Everybody is trying to come up with a way to lower that number. Why?
What does that number tell us?
By itself, Not much.

It's just one of four numbers on a typical lipid panel. Total cholesterol, HDL, LDL, and Triglycerides.
There are more important numbers and ratios which would raise concern.

What were the other numbers?

Total cholesterol is NOT a good predictor of cardiovascular disease. LDL is more accurate.
If you're going to look at LDL, then you also have to look at particle size.
You could make a fairly accurate guess as to particle size based on the other numbers.

If everything is fine as you say, then stress is factor that most ignore.

Was a thyroid panel done? Hypothyroidism is often overlooked.

It's easier to prescribe a statin to CYA than do a little thinking.
Challenge your doctor to justify his course of action.

Arite, lemme stop dey. Allyuh kerry orn.

[Scorpio]

^ Ah girl Vaio, look somebody telling yuh now that yuh ent need no cure. :)

[vaio]

Vaio, were you busy in the few hours prior to taking the test? Stress can make the readings artificially high.

Your diet sound quite good. If I was pressed into suggesting something, I'd like you to say you ate more fish than just rarely. Once your water intake is high, I doubt that test result very much.

Actually i was! My son was vomiting for the entire night and i took him to the doctor the following morning. I just had a quick cup of coffee before took him to see the doctor. When i got there i decided what the heck, i might was well see him too and do the blood tests. We waited for about 5hrs before we were able to see him, at which point i was sleep deprived, hungry and upset. :mad:

[vaio]

All responses thus far would indicate that the lipid hypothesis is alive and well.

So, let me get this straight.
A doctor told you that your cholesterol is 248 and you're now freaked out? Why?

Everybody is trying to come up with a way to lower that number. Why?
What does that number tell us?
By itself, Not much.

It's just one of four numbers on a typical lipid panel. Total cholesterol, HDL, LDL, and Triglycerides.
There are more important numbers and ratios which would raise concern.

What were the other numbers?

Total cholesterol is NOT a good predictor of cardiovascular disease. LDL is more accurate.
If you're going to look at LDL, then you also have to look at particle size.
You could make a fairly accurate guess as to particle size based on the other numbers.

If everything is fine as you say, then stress is factor that most ignore.

Was a thyroid panel done? Hypothyroidism is often overlooked.

It's easier to prescribe a statin to CYA than do a little thinking.
Challenge your doctor to justify his course of action.

Arite, lemme stop dey. Allyuh kerry orn.

Well i am supposed to go back to him with the results of an ultra sound which is to determine the level of oxygen going to my brain. I have been experiencing a little problem where at times i see darkness all around and a weak feeling when it occurs. This is worrying as i don't want this to occur when i am driving. He suggested hypoglycemia but my sugar level was 84 so ultra sound is next thing to do :s:

[Chicabonita]

We waited for about 5hrs before we were able to see him, at which point i was sleep deprived, hungry and upset. :mad:

Why in the world would you wait 5 hours to see a doctor???

[Solachica]

^tht private dr sounds worse than wait at a public hospital :-/

[vaio]

Why in the world would you wait 5 hours to see a doctor???

The hb asked me the same question :s: Suffice it to say i've never had to wait long to see him before.

[vaio]

^tht private dr sounds worse than wait at a public hospital :-/

not all the time, only when he has emergencies lol

[Falcon]

Vaio, since this is a private doc, did you have to pay for the ultrasound yourself?

[vaio]

Vaio, since this is a private doc, did you have to pay for the ultrasound yourself?

i ent do it yet but yea i have to pay for it :s:

[Falcon]

I don't agree with your doctor's handling of your case vaio. Sorry to be blunt but if you've told us everything and these are the tests, conclusions and ways forward, then I'm not filled with confidence.

[Mailman]

...

[Scorpio]

I'm not filled with confidence.

....... dais because yuh filled up to de brim with megalomania. It ent have room for nutten else in you.

[vaio]

I don't agree with your doctor's handling of your case vaio. Sorry to be blunt but if you've told us everything and these are the tests, conclusions and ways forward, then I'm not filled with confidence.

i appreciate your comments falcs, and doh apologise for anything. This Dr is relatively new to me but whatever the outcome of tests etc, i will get a second opinion from my regular Dr.

[Wayne]

....... dais because yuh filled up to de brim with megalomania. It ent have room for nutten else in you.


Stress does contribute to high "bad" cholesterol levels.

[Solachica]

Vaio, yuh migraines ent have something to ddo with tht?

[Falcon]

(mailman, please repeat)

[Scorpio]

Vaio, yuh migraines ent have something to ddo with tht?

Vaio have migraines too ? WTH ... like she falling apart ?

[vaio]

Vaio have migraines too ? WTH ... like she falling apart ?

:glare: i've had migraines since i was 18yrs old. I am sure that i am older than you but look waaaaaaay better ;)

[Scorpio]

:glare: i've had migraines since i was 18yrs old.

.....and here I was thinking you ARE 18yrs old.

[vaio]

.....and here I was thinking you ARE 18yrs old.

ah not sure if to hug yuh or clout yuh for that statement :s:

[Mailman]

(mailman, please repeat)

Were you referring to my edited post? After re-reading it, I thought it bordered on diagnosis and giving medical advice. Additionally, parts of it could be misconstrued and lead to undue stress. Moreover, I had not seen your post which essentially contained what I should have said. Hence, my censoring action.

[Falcon]

I realise my post as well, contains essentially a judgement of a medical practitioner based on what info vaio provided me. Should it be incomplete info, then the assessment and conclusion may be unfair to the guy. The message I wanted to get across to vaio was that in this world, some medics who work for certain institutions, will not use their trained brains to link dots, but push patients to get every test under the sun done. The medics could arrive at a diagnosis long in advance if they just used their upstairs and as a by product, save their patients stress and time and money. I am not saying this doctor is like this, but .......can't shake it.

[Scorpio]

ah not sure if to hug yuh or clout yuh for that statement :s:

Well I am not a touchy feely kinda person so yuh could keep yuh hug, and I can't take no hard lash, so I have to decline the clout,

Yuh have a third option ?

[Solachica]

^she cud buss 2 cuss on yuh lol

[Scorpio]

^she cud buss 2 cuss on yuh lol

Sola, that better than de odder 2 option yes.

[vaio]

I realise my post as well, contains essentially a judgement of a medical practitioner based on what info vaio provided me. Should it be incomplete info, then the assessment and conclusion may be unfair to the guy. The message I wanted to get across to vaio was that in this world, some medics who work for certain institutions, will not use their trained brains to link dots, but push patients to get every test under the sun done. The medics could arrive at a diagnosis long in advance if they just used their upstairs and as a by product, save their patients stress and time and money. I am not saying this doctor is like this, but .......can't shake it.

I don't think this Dr is like that at all. He works from home and is not aligned to any institution, you choose where you go to get tests done, etc. He is one of those Doctors who love his job and helping others. If you have a problem you can call him anytime and get help.

[vaio]

Well I am not a touchy feely kinda person so yuh could keep yuh hug, and I can't take no hard lash, so I have to decline the clout,

Yuh have a third option ?

:rolleyes: i think a hard clout might be the best thing lol

[vaio]

^she cud buss 2 cuss on yuh lol

i doh cuss but if someone is willing to do it for me....by all means lol lol

[Scorpio]

i doh cuss

Try it, yuh cholesterol might come down,

[vaio]

lollol

i never thought i'd enjoy oatmeal but i am !!

[Scorpio]

lollol

i never thought i'd enjoy oatmeal but i am !!

yuck.

[vaio]

yuck.

yummy, you should try it! It lowers your cholesterol!

[Scorpio]

yummy, you should try it! It lowers your cholesterol!

I don't have a cholesterol problem.

[vaio]

I don't have a cholesterol problem.

you sure?

[Scorpio]

you sure?

Absolutely !

[Chicabonita]

Ah think Vaio is lying to us yes...I think she is quietly bussing up pig tail and ting and then wondering about cholesterol.

[vaio]

lol nah pig is nasty :puke:

[Wayne]

The Best remedy for controlling bad cholesterol,is exercise.....that is how I do it.


Low-density lipoprotein, LDL, is commonly referred to as the "bad cholesterol" because of its tendency to attach to arterial walls.

[Scorpio]

pig is nasty :puke:

pork - the other white meat :)

[vaio]

^ :rolleyes:

i am exercising more and loving it!!

[Falcon]

have you re-tested?

[vaio]

not yet, i ent get chance :blush:

[Falcon]

evidence is lacking to support widespread use of cholesterol-lowering drugs among the "worried well", a study has found.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Anti-Cholesterol-Statins-Doubts-Report-Questions-Studies-On-Drug-Given-To-Heart-Patients/Article/201101315898605?lid=ARTICLE_15898605_Anti-CholesterolStatinsDoubts:ReportQuestionsStudiesOnD rugGivenToHeartPatients&lpos=searchresults

[vaio]

i know a lot of people who use pills to lower their cholesterol :blink

[dancerboy]

I did a blood test a couple weeks ago and went for the results this morning. The Dr said that my cholesterol was 248 :o

Now i am stressed out. I thought i ate healthy and i would normally exercise, i find the results to be very strange. So i've been given a nutrition sheet and 6 weeks to lower my cholesterol or else i go on medication :s:

Good news is everything else is fine


Countdown to lower my cholesterol begins :s:

VAIO my friend, I think TRINIS have a propensity to having high cholesterol. There is no evidence to that, that's just my observation. I have been told more than 15 years ago, that my cholesterol is high. I have been put on provacol , but, i never took it. I use red yeast rice. I mix raw quaker oats with soy milk, with flax seed, wheat germ, spice, nutmeg, clove, and i blend it. Don't loose sleep over it.


DANCERBOY

[dancerboy]

Actually i was! My son was vomiting for the entire night and i took him to the doctor the following morning. I just had a quick cup of coffee before took him to see the doctor. When i got there i decided what the heck, i might was well see him too and do the blood tests. We waited for about 5hrs before we were able to see him, at which point i was sleep deprived, hungry and upset. :mad:

I was always told to fast after midnite before taking a cholesterol test. If you had coffe, that could be your answer.


DANCERBOY

[Wayne]

When I fast before a Blood Test,all I drink is water.After the test,then I eat.

[vaio]

my results came in - 218 :(

[gingergirl63]

my results came in - 218 :(

Vi,at least it is better than what it was before..keep doing whatever it is you're doing... it's working.IT WILL GET BETTER :)

[mivs]

my results came in - 218 :(

maybe u're trying too hard...at least it's better

[vaio]

Thanx ginger and mivs, was kinda depressed when i got the news this morning but ur kind words are appreciated :)

i was hoping tht the first results were flawed somehow but now tht i got this set of results it seems like i have a lot of work to do. Ah well, at least i love to exercise and eat healthy so tht's not gonna be a problem for me

[Scorpio]

at least i love to exercise

We know you love to exercise your fingers based on how much time you spend on ttol :)

[vaio]

We know you love to exercise your fingers based on how much time you spend on ttol :)

:glare: then my fingers must be in really good shape lol

[Scorpio]

:glare: then my fingers must be in really good shape lol

Next time do the cholesterol test only on your fingers, I sure the results will be low.

[vaio]

:glare:

[Aurea]

U know that's not so bad right - it should have been no higher than 190( diff being 28). So look at it that way, also u not on any medication(right?), so that's an "up" side to.

Aurea

[vaio]

look at the glass half full eh lol

nope no meds and i am gonna continuing trying to get it down

[Aurea]

^^^ tha's right :) and to get it down to at least 190 is not that hard for u I'm sure. :)

Aurea

[vaio]

hopefully not!

[Aurea]

Oh, and u should check again in like 3 months eh. Just to see how ur doin. :)

Aurea

[vaio]

i intend to! still have to visit the Dr but i am sure he'll wanna retest in a couple mths so i'll continue to do what i am doing.

[indie]

We know you love to exercise your fingers based on how much time you spend on ttol :)

rofl rofl...

[Mailman]

Interesting abstract – full article is in Japanese.

The authors of this paper disagree with blindly reducing total cholesterol.

These levels are unreasonable considering that the TC levels of 240-260 mg/dL are optimal in terms of all-cause mortality for the Japanese population.

Oh, and let’s not talk about conflicts of interest involved in determining at what TC levels statins are to be prescribed.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20885077

[sacky]

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2008/09september/pages/cholesterolloweringdrugandcancer.aspx

[Pamela]

I am no doctor well not yet,
Its still finding out what your bad and good cholesterol levels are , Its important to know what your blood pressure is also
But never be to quick to take medication , medications is one of the leading causes of kidney and liver diseases
Before you do anything make sure you try other alternatives
Drink some wine; eat lots of fatty fish, make sure you use no oil , if you have too, use extra virgin oil,
I love Dancer looks on things and choices of foods
At night time drink a cup of garlic tea so you man cant worry you because you tired…If the bosses pissing you off give him a good dose of garlic breath.
No shell food !! Period

[vaio]

I am no doctor well not yet,
Its still finding out what your bad and good cholesterol levels are , Its important to know what your blood pressure is also
But never be to quick to take medication , medications is one of the leading causes of kidney and liver diseases
Before you do anything make sure you try other alternatives
Drink some wine; eat lots of fatty fish, make sure you use no oil , if you have too, use extra virgin oil,
I love Dancer looks on things and choices of foods
At night time drink a cup of garlic tea so you man cant worry you because you tired…If the bosses pissing you off give him a good dose of garlic breath.
No shell food !! Period

Thanx for the advice/info, i appreciate it. My lifestyle has changed and i feel better and will get another test in a month or so and hoping for the best.

[letric]

I am no doctor well not yet,
Its still finding out what your bad and good cholesterol levels are , Its important to know what your blood pressure is also
But never be to quick to take medication , medications is one of the leading causes of kidney and liver diseases
Before you do anything make sure you try other alternatives
Drink some wine; eat lots of fatty fish, make sure you use no oil , if you have too, use extra virgin oil,
I love Dancer looks on things and choices of foods
At night time drink a cup of garlic tea so you man cant worry you because you tired…If the bosses pissing you off give him a good dose of garlic breath.
No shell food !! Period

Imagine suggesting garlic to control a husband loving advances. Are you married?

[Pamela]

Did you literally take that serious? It was just a little humor put into the post that’s all ,

[letric]

Did you literally take that serious? It was just a little humor put into the post that’s all ,

The fault is in my reading. Sorry.

[vaio]

grrrr

[miktay]

Viao:

Wha bout sugar & blood presha...

How dem tings doing?

[vaio]

Sugar 86, bp 137/89

Damn cholesterol!!

[snowbird]

Just noticed this thread and all of the 'advice' lol

two words for you vaio .... dem shrimp..... dey tasty but .....deadly...proceed with caution

and, flaxseed is god's gift to people with bad cholesterol lol

read up on both of these when you have time.

[vaio]

i am not a 'people with bad cholesterol' :s:

but thanks anyway

[miktay]

i am not a 'people with bad cholesterol' :s:

but thanks anyway

Do u take fish oil supplements?

[Jason]

Green tea is very good for the health. It helps in burning of fats and it also control our body cholesterol level. I suggest you to drink green tea more and more it will low down your cholesterol.

[letric]

Green tea is very good for the health. It helps in burning of fats and it also control our body cholesterol level. I suggest you to drink green tea more and more it will low down your cholesterol.

We love Organic Cape Malay Rooibos Chai, refreshing, lightly spiced. :drool: