Finding a doctor

[Satya]

Is the Eric Williams Medical Complex the best hospital in Trini? I need to find a doctor but I want to make sure I am looking at the right place.

[Sumana]

type of doc?

[vaio]

the best hospital in T&T is private......Gulf View Medical, Medical Associates, Southern Medical or St Augustine Private.....

[Satya]

the best hospital in T&T is private......Gulf View Medical, Medical Associates, Southern Medical or St Augustine Private.....


ohh that is good info...thanks! :D

[sapodila]

and to think that some of those SAME doctors work at the General Hospitals too! all about the $$$$$$$$ eh!

[Sumana]

the doc i told u about is @ St Aug Pvate

[BW]

and to think that some of those SAME doctors work at the General Hospitals too! all about the $$$$$$$$ eh!

Well, if the General Hospitals are understaffed to begin with...I think we should be happy for all the doctors we can get.

Not that I am defending those docs with $$ signs in their eyes.

[vaio]

and to think that some of those SAME doctors work at the General Hospitals too! all about the $$$$$$$$ eh!

sure is....well if they gettin better money in Private then why the heck not huh??!!!

[Satya]

Thanks Sumana. Understaffed, and extremely undermaintained.

[sapodila]

Well I'll tell you this.............for the past 30something years, my parent have been seeking PRIVATE health care in Trinidad, because it's where they receive what their moneys' worth. It is sad to think that the same doctors who provide excellent services to them, work at the general hospitals and don't give a damn to the non paying public. Why don't they just service the private institutions and leave the run down public facilities and stop swindling the government ? Talk about having your cake and eating it too! So much for taking the oath to serve humanity unconditionally.

[vaio]

^^i think some made an unconditional oath to the almighty dollar.

[Falcon]

So much for taking the oath to serve humanity unconditionally.
I'd love for someone to explain this to me! :|

[sapodila]

Taken from the link http://www.pneuro.com/publications/oath ... n's%20Oath (http://www.pneuro.com/publications/oaths/#Physician's%20Oath)


"Physician's Oath

The World Medical Association, Declaration of Geneva (1948). Adopted by the General Assembly of the World Medical Association, Geneva, Switzerland, September 1948 and amended by the 22nd World Medical Assembly, Sydney, Australia, August 1968.

The World Medical Association is an association of national medical associations. This oath seems to be a response to the atrocities committed by doctors in Nazi Germany. Notably, this oath requires the physician to "not use [his] medical knowledge contrary to the laws of humanity." This document was adopted by the World Medical Association only three months before the United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) which provides for the security of the body.

At the time of being admitted as a member of the medical profession:

I solemnly pledge myself to consecrate my life to the service of humanity;
I will give to my teachers the respect and gratitude which is their due;
I will practice my profession with conscience and dignity; the health of my patient will be my first consideration;
I will maintain by all the means in my power, the honor and the noble traditions of the medical profession; my colleagues will be my brothers;
I will not permit considerations of religion, nationality, race, party politics or social standing to intervene between my duty and my patient;
I will maintain the utmost respect for human life from the time of conception, even under threat, I will not use my medical knowledge contrary to the laws of humanity;
I make these promises solemnly, freely and upon my honor. "



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The Loma Linda University Physician's Oath
(Revised 16 December 1998)

"Before God these things I do promise:

In the acceptance of my sacred calling,

I will dedicate my life to the furtherance of Jesus Christ's healing and teaching ministry.

I will give to my teachers the respect and gratitude which is their due. I will impart to those who follow me, the knowledge and experience that I have gained.

The wholeness of my patient will be my first consideration.

Acting as a good steward of the resources of society and of the talents granted me, I will endeavor to reflect God's mercy and compassion by caring for the lonely, the poor, the suffering, and those who are dying.

I will maintain the utmost respect for human life. I will not use my medical knowledge contrary to the laws of humanity. I will respect the rights and decision of my patients.

I will hold in confidence all secrets committed to my keeping in the practice of my calling.

I will lead my life and practice my art with purity, and honor; abstaining from immorality myself, I will not lead others into moral wrong doing.

May God's kingdom, His healing power and glory be experienced by those whom I serve, and may they be made known in my life, in proportion as I am faithful to this oath."


I always knew there was an "Oath" taken by every new doctor.....unless this does NOT apply to the doctors in Trinidad and Tobago.

[BW]

I always knew there was an "Oath" taken by every new doctor.....unless this does NOT apply to the doctors in Trinidad and Tobago.[/color]

Hate to break this to you, but there's no requirement to take an oath before a doctor can practice (at least not in the US, not sure about T&T or anywhere else). The amount of religious and political language used has caused traditional oaths, like the two you posted, to be actively removed from many med schools' Graduation ceremony. Nowadays, there are guidelines posted from various bodies (WMA, GMC, AMA, etc), but none are as wide-reaching as to say "serve humanity unconditionally."

[sapodila]

Interesting! No hope for the oppressed eh! If you ain't have money, yuh dogs dead! :( . Wish there were many more Dr. McWilliams around!

[Solachica]

My parents use public health care and both received good service.

[sapodila]

My parents use public health care and both received good service.
Well I am happy to hear that! Let's hope they are not 'short-changing' your parents.... meaning... I hope they get the FULL amount of the prescription to use as supposed too and not some of it like my Aunt receives......she still have to go visit Dr. Tilluckdharry at the 'nursing home', and get the 'rest' they 'forget' to give her at the clinic.

[Solachica]

They dont depend on the hospitals for the prescriptions to fill it. they just see the drs and buy whtever they have to or dont get at the phrmacy.
but we dont have anything to cpmplain abt.
some people have attitude problems when they go and have to wait to be seen etc.
there are 2 sides to a story.
they have colour coded emergencies......even in US i see it here. you get seen according to your emergency. even at my dr if you dont have an appointment you wait to see her according to your emergencies.

[sapodila]

And here I am thinking that filling the people's prescriptions, getting them 'free' radiology and physical therapy was all part of the 'public' health care system in Trinidad. I didn't know that 'free' health-care means going to the pharmacy and 'paying' Sobrahtie or Horace, whoever $$$$ from they pensions to fill a prescription! :roll: Everything the failing USA do T & T do too. How sad.

[Solachica]

:D as with everything it turns out sometimes to get best treatment on who you know. My co workers mom got her heart operation done free and quickly becos of who she knew.

maybe it shud start to be paid health care for all :roll:

[Mivo]

It varies eh some people say they get good treatment at the clinic and hospital and others complain they don't an prefer to go to a private dr/private instiution

[Solachica]

yea true mivo. my mom says she's gotten good treatment over 20 yrs now

[sapodila]

double standard represents eh! :( .... You know 2 years ago, my Aunt paid at the Mount Hope Medical Complex ( I thought it was 'public' eh) $ 110,000.00 to have her open heart surgery done.... and she is ah senior citizen. anyways, her recovery was excellent. she flying plane like taxi now going allover the place and enjoying her 'twilight' years God's willing!

[jacques]

Is the Eric Williams Medical Complex the best hospital in Trini? I need to find a doctor but I want to make sure I am looking at the right place.

The only private medical facility in T&T offering full service is the St Clair clinic. It is also by far the most expensive. Still, you are better off abroad if you can get there. Abroad is where all the government ministers go... Even the best facilities here offer substandard service by North American standards.

[brag]

Here is some interesting information about health. Devotional music may also be among some of the methods for a well functioning immune system.

http//www.heartmath.org/research/research-abstracts/music-and-immune.html
http://www.heartmath.org/research/resea ... tions.html (http://www.heartmath.org/research/research-publications.html)
http://www.heartmath.org/research/scien ... index.html (http://www.heartmath.org/research/science-of-the-heart/index.html)
http://www.heartmath.org/research/our-heart-brain.html)

Music and the Immune System

R. McCraty.
Proceedings of the Tenth International Montreux Congress on Stress, Montreux, Switzerland, 1999.

"There is considerable scientific rationale to support the use of music to enhance immunity via its powerful influence on emotions. Music°s ability to alter mood and emotional state has long been known experientially, and more recently has been scientifically documented. Likewise, it is well recognized that mental and emotional states can alter autonomic nervous system (ANS) activity and balance. The ANS, in turn, can modulate virtually every aspect of immune function, both through direct innervation of lymphoid tissues and by way of its regulatory influence on immunomodulatory hormones. The interaction between feeling states, immunity and autonomic function has been highlighted by a number of studies showing that negative emotions such as anger and hostility stimulate sympathetic activity, increase the cortisol/DHEA ratio and suppress the immune system, while positive emotional states such as appreciation enhance parasympathetic activity, increase physiological coherence, reduce the cortisol/DHEA ratio and boost immunity.

Recent research has examined the physiological and psychological effects of music that integrates particular rhythmic patterns, tone textures, chord progressions and harmonic resonances specifically designed to help reduce stress, facilitate the experience of sustained positive emotional states and enhance the benefits of stress management interventions. Used regularly in conjunction with an emotional self-management program, this scientifically designed music has been found to increase DHEA, reduce cortisol, improve autonomic balance and increase coherence in the ANS, facilitating the entrainment of physiological systems. In addition, this music has been demonstrated to help reduce stress and negative emotion and increase positive emotion in both healthy populations and in individuals with clinical conditions such as anxiety, depression, panic, arrhythmias, diabetes and chronic fatigue.

The present study examined the effects of music and positive emotional states on the immune system in healthy individuals (n = 10). Autonomic activity was assessed using power spectral density analysis of heart rate variability, and secretory immunoglobulin A (S-IgA), measured from saliva samples, was used a marker of immunity. The autonomic and immune effects of rock and New Age music selections were compared to those produced by Heart Zones, music designed to facilitate stress reduction and promote emotional balance. Listening to Heart Zones for 15 minutes produced a significant increase in total autonomic activity (p < .05) and an average increase of 55% in S-IgA levels (p < .01). In contrast, neither rock, New Age music nor a control period of silence produced significant changes in total autonomic activity or in S-IgA concentrations. Rock music decreased power in the high frequency region of the heart rate variability power spectrum (p < .05), suggesting a reduction in parasympathetic activity.

A second phase of the study examined the immune and autonomic effects of music used in conjunction with an emotional self-management intervention known as the Heart Lock-In, a technique designed to improve autonomic balance, increase physiological coherence and promote the experience of sustained positive emotional states. Performing the Heart Lock-In for 15 minutes without music produced a significant average increase of 50% in S-IgA levels (p < .05). However, the combination of the Heart Lock-In facilitated by the Heart Zones music increased S-IgA levels by 141% (p < .01), a significantly greater immunoenhancement than was produced by either the music or the intervention alone. The music combined with the Heart Lock-In also produced a significant increase in total autonomic activity (p < .01) as well as in power in the low frequency region of the heart rate variability power spectrum (0.04-0.15 Hz) (p < .05). This is consistent with previous findings indicating that the use of music to facilitate heart-focused self-management interventions tends to produce a large, narrow peak in this low frequency range, which corresponds to the entrainment of respiration, blood pressure waves and brain wave patterns to the heart rhythms at a frequency of approximately 0.1 Hz. This state of increased physiological coherence is characterized by increased parasympathetic activity, increased vascular resonance, and improved sympathovagal balance, and is also generally accompanied by enhanced emotional balance and mental clarity.

In conclusion, results indicate that music can be designed to potentiate the immunoenhancing effects of positive emotional states. The data, combined with previous findings, suggest that these effects are likely to be autonomically mediated and facilitated by increased physiological coherence. This study suggests that the use of music in conjunction with effective techniques for emotional self-management can be a practical, inexpensive and non-invasive method to enhance immunity. Such interventions may yield significant health benefits both in healthy individuals and in a variety of clinical conditions in which there is immunosuppression and autonomic imbalance."

[sapodila]

Nice article dey BRji, the whole atmosphere changes depending on the music. When my brother playing dem heavy metal... I does feel to pelt his behind and his 'metal' out meh door.... But when I playing my sentimental and devotional music, I does be in ah different world, the feelings does change too....... jus an example of how the demeanor changes to suit the music.

[brag]

Yes sap, but I see more than health in the article. I see religion plain and simple, as well as the 330 million gods/deities of the Hindu pantheon of gods or deities of God.