De English Language is a helluva ting oui!

[KFCSpicy]

How many of you on here get problems with small things like remembering how to spell simple everyday words?

I recall one day writing and stopped cause i find dat the word please was looking decidedly dodgy. I was not sure if the word was right or wrong and i had to spellcheck it to make sure. Weird.

Plus I have a bad habit of not editing my own work until after i click send or submit so I have to always double and triple check when I at work and sending out correspondence to people.

I lazy too eh but is not de end of my world. :?

[Falcon]

Always submit my TTOnline post, then check for errors...........habit from since I joined......

I think the fact that you think things look funny is credit to you enough. I struggle daily when I read an inability to differentiate lose and loose; you're and your; of and off.

[KFCSpicy]

I think it's good to always check stuff out too. When I get correspondence at work from people in positions so high up the food chain that have errors in it i think...wow! yuh know what I mean? u expect that at that level they would have all bases covered by now.

[Scorpio]

Falcon, I think you're habit off looking for errors after you submit you're ttol posts is a good practise, that way, your sure not to loose credibility on the forum.

[Falcon]

I wish there was more attitude like that here. Would be so much more fun! :P
But KFC,
with the advent of the seemingly disposable email and it becoming a sort of brisk memo between colleagues, epitomised by the excessive familiarity that would never be in a 'formal correspondence' , you've also lost the need to be accurate. It might not be right, but it's happened.

[Scorpio]

I agree, Falcon, email has made accuracy of language less relevant, I generally pay more attention to writing a "snail mail" correspondance rather then an email. :D

[Falcon]

Of course. In fact, I only now write letter for applications and legal reasons. I email or telephone.

[KFCSpicy]

ok after i just decipher what u jess say dey Falco i think i cud safely respond with... i demand the effort to be put into correspondence. right now it taking me so long to type these posts cause of these fake nails eh but i refuse to let the posts go out making meh look dohtish.

joking around wid lingo (local and foreign) is all well and good, also I admit that when i am impassioned to say my piece on here sometimes i let one or two things slide but, then thank God for the edit button eh. :)

i refuse to add to the further breakdown of the english language. that's one of the reasons i read too, so i can constantly learn and live through the words in the books. Like u Falcs, reading the newspapers does irk meh eh but I eh go go postal just yet. ;)

[Scorpio]

Oh, I do have one special peeve about email.....those sent from Blackberries, they are usually filled with errors that sometimes render them incoherent. I think it's because of the small keyboard they're typed on. :x

[sapodila]

I know what you mean K I too become oblivious at times... everybody in here who know me, knows that I cant spell :D

[KFCSpicy]

girl i wusserer. :D

[snowbird]

All I would say is ...... GOD BLESS SPELL CHECK :lol:

[Scorpio]

Spell check is for girls.

[Scorpio]

Spell check is for girls.

[guyguy]

All I would say is ...... GOD BLESS SPELL CHECK :lol:

GOOD BLIESS SPEILL CHEQUE .... Spell check that and see what comes up .... :) :) :)

[guyguy]

Of course. In fact, I only now write letter for applications and legal reasons. I email or telephone.

I now only write letters for applications and legal reasons. I email or telephone instead.

Bahahahahahaahaha !!!!!!!!!



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[Scorpio]

^^^ :D

[KFCSpicy]

lmao oh dear i not getting involved in guy and falcs pretend drama on here ah tall ah tall.

Now i am itching to spell check de damn thing. steupse :?

[Scorpio]

Yeah K, that is something that goes waaayyyy back........ :D

[sapodila]

Lawd hav mercy........Falcon eh see dat yet!

[Sumana]

Of course. In fact, I only now write letter for applications and legal reasons. I email or telephone.

I now only write letters for applications and legal reasons. I email or telephone instead.

Bahahahahahaahaha !!!!!!!!!



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NAPS FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dancerboy]

KFC, I AM GLAD U RAISED THIS ISSUE. I am from de ole scool, and i am used to crossing meh eyes and doting meh teas. The way i c de english language is being bastardized now meh brane does hemorage. The AMERICANS say ''THE SAME DIFFERENCE', that does make me brane boil. Then they does say ' THE EXACT SAME THING' . TO ME THAT'S THE SAME DIFFERENCE. But the one i like is when u leaving work at 8,o'clock in the morning like i 'uses' to do, and they tell u 'GOOD NIGHT'. THAT WAS A REEL EYE-OPENER. HOWEVER, on a more serious note, when i was in school the words, 'AND', and 'BUT', were conjunctions, and were used to join two sentences. Now 'AND,and BUT are used to start sentences. BUT THAT IS WRONG. When i look at 'WHEEL OF FORTUNE' , and the announcer says he is looking for a phrase,and lo and behold there is a verb in the answer. A PHRASE DOES NOT CONTAIN A VERB. I can go on and on, BUT this should suffice. ALSO i had to differenciate between each other and one another. Each other is used when referring to two persons, and, one another, when you are referring to more than two persons. I also like when people say ' THERE WERE 10 PEOPLE AT THE DANCE'. that should be persons, unless they were all black people, white people, indian people, etc. DANCERBOY

[guyguy]

people |?p?p?l|
plural noun
1 human beings in general or considered collectively : the earthquake killed 30,000 people.
• ( the people) the citizens of a country, esp. when considered in relation to those who govern them : his economic reforms no longer have the support of the people.
• ( the people) those without special rank or position in society; the populace : he is very much a man of the people.
• ( one's people) a person's parents or relatives : my people live in West Virginia.
• ( one's people) the supporters or employees of a person in a position of power or authority: : I've had my people watching the house for some time now.
• ( the People) the state prosecution in a trial : pretrial statements made by the People's witnesses.
2 ( pl. peoples ) [treated as sing. or pl. ] the men, women, and children of a particular nation, community, or ethnic group : the native peoples of Canada.
verb [ trans. ] (usu. be peopled)
(of a particular group of people) inhabit (an area or place) : an arid mountain region peopled by warring clans.
• fill or be present in (a place, environment, or domain) : the street is peopled with ragamuffined hippies.
• fill (an area or place) with a particular group of inhabitants : it was his intention to people the town with English colonists.
DERIVATIVES
peoplehood |-?ho?d| noun (sense 2 of the noun).
ORIGIN Middle English : from Anglo-Norman French poeple, from Latin populus ‘populace.’

person |?p?rs?n| |?p?rsn| |?p??s(?)n|
noun ( pl. people |?p?p?l| |?pip?l| or persons |?p?rsnz|)
1 a human being regarded as an individual : the porter was the last person to see her | she is a person of astonishing energy.
• used in legal or formal contexts to refer to an unspecified individual : the entrance fee is $10.00 per person.
• [in sing. ] [with adj. ] an individual characterized by a preference or liking for a specified thing : she's not a cat person.
• an individual's body : I have publicity photographs on my person at all times.
• a character in a play or story : his previous roles in the person of a fallible cop.
2 Grammar a category used in the classification of pronouns, possessive determiners, and verb forms, according to whether they indicate the speaker ( first person), the addressee ( second person), or a third party ( third person).
3 Christian Theology each of the three modes of being of God, namely the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit, who together constitute the Trinity.


USAGE
The words people and persons can both be used as the plural of person, but they are not used in exactly the same way. People is by far the more common of the two words and is used in most ordinary contexts: : a group of people ;: there were only about ten people ;: several thousand people have been rehoused. Persons, on the other hand, tends now to be restricted to official or formal contexts, as in : this vehicle is authorized to carry twenty persons ;: no persons admitted without a pass. In some contexts, persons, by pointing to the individual, may sound less friendly than people:: the number should not be disclosed to any unauthorized persons.

[dancerboy]

people |?p?p?l|
plural noun
1 human beings in general or considered collectively : the earthquake killed 30,000 people.
• ( the people) the citizens of a country, esp. when considered in relation to those who govern them : his economic reforms no longer have the support of the people.
• ( the people) those without special rank or position in society; the populace : he is very much a man of the people.
• ( one's people) a person's parents or relatives : my people live in West Virginia.
• ( one's people) the supporters or employees of a person in a position of power or authority: : I've had my people watching the house for some time now.
• ( the People) the state prosecution in a trial : pretrial statements made by the People's witnesses.
2 ( pl. peoples ) [treated as sing. or pl. ] the men, women, and children of a particular nation, community, or ethnic group : the native peoples of Canada.
verb [ trans. ] (usu. be peopled)
(of a particular group of people) inhabit (an area or place) : an arid mountain region peopled by warring clans.
• fill or be present in (a place, environment, or domain) : the street is peopled with ragamuffined hippies.
• fill (an area or place) with a particular group of inhabitants : it was his intention to people the town with English colonists.
DERIVATIVES
peoplehood |-?ho?d| noun (sense 2 of the noun).
ORIGIN Middle English : from Anglo-Norman French poeple, from Latin populus ‘populace.’

person |?p?rs?n| |?p?rsn| |?p??s(?)n|
noun ( pl. people |?p?p?l| |?pip?l| or persons |?p?rsnz|)
1 a human being regarded as an individual : the porter was the last person to see her | she is a person of astonishing energy.
• used in legal or formal contexts to refer to an unspecified individual : the entrance fee is $10.00 per person.
• [in sing. ] [with adj. ] an individual characterized by a preference or liking for a specified thing : she's not a cat person.
• an individual's body : I have publicity photographs on my person at all times.
• a character in a play or story : his previous roles in the person of a fallible cop.
2 Grammar a category used in the classification of pronouns, possessive determiners, and verb forms, according to whether they indicate the speaker ( first person), the addressee ( second person), or a third party ( third person).
3 Christian Theology each of the three modes of being of God, namely the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit, who together constitute the Trinity.


USAGE
The words people and persons can both be used as the plural of person, but they are not used in exactly the same way. People is by far the more common of the two words and is used in most ordinary contexts: : a group of people ;: there were only about ten people ;: several thousand people have been rehoused. Persons, on the other hand, tends now to be restricted to official or formal contexts, as in : this vehicle is authorized to carry twenty persons ;: no persons admitted without a pass. In some contexts, persons, by pointing to the individual, may sound less friendly than people:: the number should not be disclosed to any unauthorized persons.
My 'NEW ILLUSTRATED WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY- THESAURUS', first definition of PEOPLE is: THE AGGREGATE OF HUMAN BEINGS LIVING UNDER THE SAME GOVERNMENT, SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE, OR BEING OF THE SAME BLOOD. So HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WERE KILLED AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER. They might have comprised ENGLISH PEOPLE, INDIAN PEOPLE, CHINESE PEOPLE, ETC, but the were referred to collectively, because they live under one government. Hence when there is an earthquake in INDIA, it is said 30,000 people. That's like saying 10 fishes, or 10 fish. If you are referring to a particular type of fish e.g HERRING, the plural is fish, but, if you are referring to several species of fishes, e.g HERRING, KING FISH, RED SNAPPER ETC, then the plural is fishes. (plural is,not are). talking about plurals, in my days the plural of bread was bread, and the plural of sheep was sheep. Now they say 'SHEEPS',and 'BREADS' . AND GUYGUY WHEN YOU QUOTE A SOURCE, YOU MUST ALWAYS INDICATE YOUR SOURCE, so the reader can, not only check the authenticity of your source, but also its reliability. WRITERS AND MORESO NEWSPAPER JOURNALIST HAVE BECOME LAZY. DANCERBOY

[oecarb]

What allyou worrying about?

I think it was Bernard Shaw who pointed out that ghoti could be pronounced fish.

The “gh” comes from such words as “laugh”, “enough”, “rough”
The “o” like in “women” (often pronounced wimmen)
The “ti” comes from “station”, “motion”, “dictionary” etc.

So allyou can gh*ch ogh!!!!! (ch as in loch) :lol: :lol: :lol:

[guyguy]

public
• adjective
1 of, concerning, or available to the people as a whole.
2 of or involved in the affairs of the community, especially in government or entertainment.
3 done, perceived, or existing in open view. 4 of or provided by the state rather than an independent, commercial company.

• noun
1 (the public) treated as sing. or pl. ordinary people in general; the community.
2 (one’s public) the people who watch or are interested in an artist, writer, or performer.

— PHRASES go public
1 become a public company.
2 reveal details about a previously private concern. in public in view of other people; when others are present. the public eye the state of being known or of interest to people in general, especially through the media.

— DERIVATIVES publicly adverb.

— ORIGIN Latin publicus, blend of poplicus ‘of the people’ and puber ‘adult’.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/public?view=uk ... Unless you use a Macintosh you won't be able to access the definitions in my other post.


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[guyguy]

What allyou worrying about?

I think it was Bernard Shaw who pointed out that ghoti could be pronounced fish.

The “gh” comes from such words as “laugh”, “enough”, “rough”
The “o” like in “women” (often pronounced wimmen)
The “ti” comes from “station”, “motion”, “dictionary” etc.

So allyou can gh*ch ogh!!!!! (ch as in loch) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant! :D :D :D


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[Falcon]

Of course. In fact, I only now write letter for applications and legal reasons. I email or telephone.

I now only write letters for applications and legal reasons. I email or telephone instead.

Bahahahahahaahaha !!!!!!!!!



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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Correct correct! Nevertheless, I take issue with the 'instead'!

[guyguy]

Of course. In fact, I only now write letter for applications and legal reasons. I email or telephone.

I now only write letters for applications and legal reasons. I email or telephone instead.

Bahahahahahaahaha !!!!!!!!!



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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Correct correct! Nevertheless, I take issue with the 'instead'!

It's a continuation of the thought process breds. Standing by itself as a statement or an answer, it's just fine. For example;

Guy ; "Falco, how do you correspond with your friends and family?"
Falco ; "I use email or the telephone."

On the other hand;

"Of course. In fact, I only now write letter for applications and legal reasons. I email or telephone."

The last sentence is a continuation of the thought process of the second sentence, therefore, it must end with some type of conclusive word or phrase such as instead, or, you could have added; " I use email or the telephone instead of performing the tedious ritual of writing an email or a letter."


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[Falcon]

no.

[perijove]

English is neither my first language nor my second language, so I have had my own share of problems as far as spelling is concerned. I've never come to trust spell-checkers because the difference between American and British spellings is annoying and confusing. I was brought up using British spelling and told to that American spelling was NOT acceptable. Times have changed and now have to accomodate American spelling.

[sapodila]

Ha Ha Ha !

Dancer you using 'Webster's'........my Webster's collecting dust on the book shelf :D I does consult Oxford Concise. :)

[guyguy]

no.
Bahahahahahaaha !!!!!
The "n" in no should be capitalized like this; "N".

[KFCSpicy]

lmao at all of this. yall are way too imaginative and funny as hell! :lol:

[guyguy]

lmao at all of this. yall are way too imaginative and funny as hell! :lol:
Iz you to blame. Ent iz you who start all ah diss? Allyuh oman eh. Always chookin' fyah. :D :D :D

[KFCSpicy]

Moi? :?

Do any of you speak Trini patois? I had a french friend visit trinidad one carnival season and we went to visit another firends grand dad who has a house on maracas where you can walk to the fishing village...anyways he speaks the patois like a second language because they were all born and raised in the hills of Le Plait Village.

I also wonder about the remaining descendants of the Amerindians...whether they still have their ancient language and how come we never hear about it. :?

[snowbird]

.......KFC, I AM GLAD U RAISED THIS ISSUE. I am from de ole scool, and i am used to crossing meh eyes and doting meh teas. The way i c de english language is being bastardized now meh brane does hemorage. The AMERICANS say ''THE SAME DIFFERENCE', that does make me brane boil. Then they does say ' THE EXACT SAME THING' . TO ME THAT'S THE SAME DIFFERENCE. But the one i like is when u leaving work at 8,o'clock in the morning like i 'uses' to do, and they tell u 'GOOD NIGHT'. THAT WAS A REEL EYE-OPENER.........

Wait until (or is it till :lol: ) you live in a country where just about everyone says..... ANYWAYS!!!! Fingernails on a chalk board I tell you, fingernails on a chalk board.

[KFCSpicy]

lol lol in the uk they say "yeah" and "innit" sooooo ghetto. :roll:

But what I forget to say was that my french friend my other friend's grand dad had a conversation and she cud not understand some of what he was saying to her, only few key words yet still it was mostly old school french (mixed with a bit of spanish).

[guyguy]

Gyul, ah cud barely tawk henglish, yuh arskin meh bout patois? Sheesh !!!
Ah cud cuss rell bard in Trini & Hindi doh. Yuh want tuh hear some? :D :D :D

[KFCSpicy]

uummm hmmm, yes please :mrgreen: :? for research purposes only eh!! :?

[guyguy]

uummm hmmm, yes please :mrgreen: :? for research purposes only eh!! :?
You'll have to hear it in person so that the vocal inflection, body language, and context can be fully appreciated. After all, we wouldn't want your research to be flawed, would we? :D :D :D

[KFCSpicy]

:D :D :D nope we don't and i definitely want 100% accuracy in my findings. Can't wait for you to cuss meh Guy :D :D :D

[guyguy]

:D :D :D nope we don't and i definitely want 100% accuracy in my findings. Can't wait for you to cuss meh Guy :D :D :D
Me? Cuss YOU? Never, never, never. How could I cuss such a sweet, young, innocent, intelligent, kind and generous person such as you. Like yuh tink ah mard o' wot.

[KFCSpicy]

:? but i demand it :o i need to learn the cuss words in foreign languages (strictly for research eh :? ) :mrgreen:

[guyguy]

:? but i demand it :o i need to learn the cuss words in foreign languages (strictly for research eh :? ) :mrgreen:
Okay, okay. I will well cuss op Falcon during the wedding reception of you and my big son then - in all kinda languages too (strictly for research purposes eh so that your dissertation will be top-notch). :D :D :D

[KFCSpicy]

thank u GuyGuy yuh ever so kind :D ah think :?