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Tipp
11-13-2010, 03:45 AM
My letter to the press on the Aluminium Smelter. I have $ values for all typical extra costings as I do this for my consultancy......and Alutrint will make a loss.

http://www.newsday.co.tt/letters/0,130722.html
Hydroelectricity best for aluminium smelting

Abstract:
THE EDITOR: A large number of web chat and letters and newspaper articles have been published on aluminium smelting. There are still a few issues that need resolutions. I will give facts and intellectual extrapolations based on the data found on university websites, libraries and government inquiries and publications. These are average industry fig(...)

kemist
11-13-2010, 09:53 AM
Asuming that Alutrint knew all that, why did they still want to come here and setup 3 plants?

greall
11-13-2010, 06:45 PM
Asuming that Alutrint knew all that, why did they still want to come here and setup 3 plants?

Hmmm...relatively cheap energy and raw material sources close to the largest emerging economy in LATAM...Brazil... :confused:

Greg

trinialex
11-15-2010, 08:36 PM
Hmmm...relatively cheap energy and raw material sources close to the largest emerging economy in LATAM...Brazil... :confused:

Greg

AH HAD TO EDIT DIS POST...so take de blue word out..!
Ah tink is because TT was offered de "over best" deal dey couldah ever get...remember Brazil was in de fray too...buh probably saving dey energy fuh better uses.....Plus de Chinese had ah couple projects in Guyana...dah didint do well...and dey under bush now.....

plus Jagdeo is the best negotiator in de Caribbean....so dey probably see TT as de easiest target.....???

Sly1
11-15-2010, 09:34 PM
Easy target! Easy push over? Take we money. Nah we gas eh running out! Spend spend spend! Health of our people, what is that? Destroy our forest of which we have very little and need to save and encourage, the gov't did not use proper sense in going forward with a smelter plant. They have destroyed so much, can we recover?

Sly1
11-16-2010, 03:09 PM
I am very happy that another land/gov't is thinking of taking over this project.

greall
05-24-2011, 05:17 AM
We're going from aluminium smelting to meth to petrochem and/or meth to olef...

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/business/_La_Brea_project_plan_by_Sept_-122483193.html

All that I can do is shake my head...

Greg

kemist
05-24-2011, 09:48 AM
well, if there are really setting up the Al plant in Guyana, we should try to get a piece of that pie.

Both projects mentioned there could be big in the longrun.

The methanol to olefins can produce much more than just plastics.

The methanol to petroleum products may still be a relatively young area. (As a chemist, i hope they fund research in the Caribbean).

If one thing these downstream industries will do, is to secure the methanol industry we have here.

But i have to wonder if people would look up the environmental hazards and make a fuss about these industries like they did in their fear-mongering campaign with Aluminum.

The minister said in the article:

"Once that project is sited here, again, the companies involved must take their corporate social responsibility seriously and this is how they will gain points in the evaluation process in order to be selected to become the preferred project in this area

corporate social responsibility rofl
what about their environmental responsibility? Are they gonna let these companies set up shop like the other industries, who after all these years, have only recently implemented OSH policies? Environmental and OESH policies should not just be a factor in gaining points - they should be prerequisites.