are we guilty of over fishing

[sacky]

http://endoftheline.com/

[sylvestter]

what exactly is sustainable seafood?

[sacky]

taking some and leaving for a next year

[J lindsay]

I think generally "sustainable" is far miore likely to refer to farmed fish as essentially the efficiencies of todays fishing boats and technologies, and the sheer numbers of boats, just means we are scooping out far, far quicker than they can breed.

Even the cod situation in the Atlantic, possibly the greatest concentration of a species known to history eventually near eliminated the cod all together.

Although as an aside, just what did T&T get in return for the allowing of chinese factory ships into our waters, apart from more business at the whorehouse on Wrightson Road?

[greall]

I think generally "sustainable" is far miore likely to refer to farmed fish as essentially the efficiencies of todays fishing boats and technologies, and the sheer numbers of boats, just means we are scooping out far, far quicker than they can breed.

Even the cod situation in the Atlantic, possibly the greatest concentration of a species known to history eventually near eliminated the cod all together.

Although as an aside, just what did T&T get in return for the allowing of chinese factory ships into our waters, apart from more business at the whorehouse on Wrightson Road?

Deals were made during trade missions...

Greg

[raider]

go to los iros and you can usually see the processing ships between trinidad and venezuela.

the processing ships are fed by the longliners that drag nets that are kilometres in length.

[sacky]

p://www.worldfishing.net/features/new-horizons/the-caribbean

[sacky]

i think we need to send them packing as soon as possible

[Solachica]

^ I agrEe.

[shield_2006]

the fishing fleets that you refer to actually do not operate in the territorial waters of Trinidad. they fish tuna and swordfish in deep water off the east coast and also the locally owned longliners. The in coast fishing is largely the artisanal fishermen and the trawlers. YES--the catch has deteriorated. I remember when I would go fishing in the gulf and be extremley busy--that hardly ever happens anymore. The local trawlers--shrimp--have done a devastating job on the grounds and the pollution in the gulf is quite significant from Point Lisas. There are also issues on the North Coast--but it is imply not the Chinese-they are in fact Taiwanese.

[Solachica]

I know of fishermen in SW Trini who go buy their shrimp of trawlers near vene. Trading of US$ on the high seas.

[greall]

I know of fishermen in SW Trini who go buy their shrimp of trawlers near vene. Trading of US$ on the high seas.

Then the cries of piracy reach the newspapers... :blink

Greg

[sacky]

the fishing fleets that you refer to actually do not operate in the territorial waters of Trinidad. they fish tuna and swordfish in deep water off the east coast and also the locally owned longliners. The in coast fishing is largely the artisanal fishermen and the trawlers. YES--the catch has deteriorated. I remember when I would go fishing in the gulf and be extremley busy--that hardly ever happens anymore. The local trawlers--shrimp--have done a devastating job on the grounds and the pollution in the gulf is quite significant from Point Lisas. There are also issues on the North Coast--but it is imply not the Chinese-they are in fact Taiwanese.

do you know that the bluefin tuna is the most expensive fish in the world.and these people go to any lengths to catch them.

[shield_2006]

two thigs--

yes the blufin tuna is the most expensive fish in the world and they doh fish them near Trinidad.

and the so called fishermen--the trawler owners who always cussing the coast guard--who busy selling diesel to Surinamese fishing boats off shore because the price a diesel so high in Suriname--making $30,000 US per week and is such a profitable trade selling the US for $5.00TT---dat is PIRACY

[shield_2006]

I know of fishermen in SW Trini who go buy their shrimp of trawlers near vene. Trading of US$ on the high seas.

sola--I use to deal with a lot of "fishermen''it had a group who use to buy milk in Trinidad when it was price controlled and exchange it in Venezuela for shrimp and "ice"--not the cold kind.

Trinidad "fishermen" use to fish at the mouth ah d river where the shrimp aplenty--buh the Guardia Nacional use to tax hard and then because they shrimping and cokeing too--and since da trade done they have to buy now.

[greall]

Fishing 's where I started off in business...I've seen and heard too much...

Greg

[J lindsay]

Right now the Taiwanese have 120+ highly efficient fishing vessels systematically depleting our fish stocks, year in year out. Take the example of shark, which apart from the effectiveness of their modern vessels, in the case of shark they take only the fins to sell in chinese culture as a medicine. The other 95% of the often still live shark is tossed back overboard to die.

So serious is the situation now that T&T is IMPORTING shark in order to have a reliable supply for shark and bake. And often these, as I saw in Central Market on the weekend, are no more than 18inches in length and clearly too immature to have been killed before they can mature and breed. All of the above is classic "fishing to extinction".

Interestingly, albeit a tragedy, no-one in the present government seems to be able to find out how much was paid, (or to whom) by the Taiwanese to get these blind and unlimited rights they now enjoy to excess.

Moreover, in terms of supervising only the said 120+ vessels, never mind nationals and others that may be fishing here in our waters, T&T HAS TWO fisheries officers. TWO!

Each Tiawanese boat should be obliged to have one on board fulltime, in order to monitor and control what they are doing.

It really is only a short period of time now, until our waters are fully empty, our fishermen without work, no future for fishing ever, except for fish farming where possible, and that much less food security for us all.

And in case anyone would like to speculate on the cost of an additional 120 fisheries officers, may I pre-empt that by saying dont even bother to calculate it, unless you first calculate the value of the country's assets they are now pillagiing.