So now dat Marion admit taking steroids,

[Falcon]

will them tek way d medals?

Cheaters never win, well.........except stars and stripes ones. :|

[Somebody007]

I now begining to wonder if that runner named Johnson, or Ben Johnson can't remember he first name use to take steriods too...when that man run ah 400m relay, the man use to lapse everybody else by miles....at the end of it all, it was like a no contest show for he.

[Solachica]

Yea I feel they wud take away she olympic medals.

[Somebody007]

Yea I feel they wud take away she olympic medals.


Yes she will have to surrender the medals she won...The Olympic Committee said so.

[The Lumbergh]

I now begining to wonder if that runner named Johnson, or Ben Johnson can't remember he first name use to take steriods too...when that man run ah 400m relay, the man use to lapse everybody else by miles....at the end of it all, it was like a no contest show for he.

Michael Johnson.

Ben Johnson was a Canadian 100m runner who won gold in the '88 Olympics only to have his medal stripped after testing positive for drugs.

[Falcon]

every man Marion was with, come out and say she was on the juice....now Oba must be asked!! :lol:

[Somebody007]

I now begining to wonder if that runner named Johnson, or Ben Johnson can't remember he first name use to take steriods too...when that man run ah 400m relay, the man use to lapse everybody else by miles....at the end of it all, it was like a no contest show for he.

Michael Johnson.

Ben Johnson was a Canadian 100m runner who won gold in the '88 Olympics only to have his medal stripped after testing positive for drugs.

Yeah Michael Johnson is the man I am speaking about.......I got confused at the time when I was posting on the thread and put the name Ben just to be sure it was a sprinter....but this Michael Johnson fella use to lapse dem other sprinters by miles on end.....he use to make it look so easy eh....and winning gold medals like buying bread in the grocery. If he wasn't on steriods, that man has my utmost respect.

[Acid]

MJ was deadly not only in the 400 but in the 200 too

[six4]

ALL of them are using steriods. That's right, All of them.

To this day, I believe Flo Jo (may she rest in peace) lived on steriods. I saw her transition from 1984 to 1987 and it was like night and day. Your body does not change like that virtually overnight. Michael Johnson ran 19.22 seconds in the 200 meters at the Olympics in 1996. That is un-human like. That record is not going to be broken any time soon. Even though Mike never tested positive for performance enhancing drugs, I have good money that says he did. I don't have any proof, but my gut feeling is that he did.

Sadly, even our own boy Ato........yep....he took the stuff as well. Again, I have no proof, but to stay competitive I don't see how you can if you don't do something illegal to even the playing field.

Marian Jones' only sin is that she got caught.

[Falcon]

Ato has always been against performance enhancing drugs, so your assertion of ALL is incorrect. I don't feel M Johnson was on any stuff either, just a superhuman athlete, one in a billion.

By saying ALL are we trying to dilute Marion's 'sin' (whichever one it is now?)...................

[six4]

Ato has always been against performance enhancing drugs, so your assertion of ALL is incorrect. I don't feel M Johnson was on any stuff either, just a superhuman athlete, one in a billion.

By saying ALL are we trying to dilute Marion's 'sin' (whichever one it is now?)...................

Well I have a piece of land in Caripachima I would like to sell to you.

Allow me to reaffirm my assertion, ALL of the top class track and field athletes are on the juice......ALL!!

Just because Ato said he is against steriods may or maynot be of any value. His good friend Maurice Green was charged with using performance enhancing drugs. Who was it that said, show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are. Coming to think about it, I can see your point. Maybe, just maybe that Ato was in that environment with Green and Tim Montgomery ( who is or was married to Marian Jones and also charged with using steriods), and never used illegal drugs. Maybe Ato ran without the drugs and was able to compete with the top track athletes.

[Falcon]

Obadele in the mix now, Montgomery is history.

I staying on the Ato was clean bandwagon. I'll stake my rep on the sports board on it :mrgreen: this bandwagon have more engine and more steam.

Now about that land in Caripachima (sic). :P

[Somebody007]

Ato has always been against performance enhancing drugs, so your assertion of ALL is incorrect. I don't feel M Johnson was on any stuff either, just a superhuman athlete, one in a billion.

By saying ALL are we trying to dilute Marion's 'sin' (whichever one it is now?)...................


Boy the way how Micheal Johnson use to lapse all dem other people on the track.....I say apart from being super human, d man might be suspect....aint Micheal Jordan suspect for being superhuman in basketball....... ;) ;) :D :D

[Somebody007]

Ah see how Marion has officially given up her medals and has accepted the ban imposed on her. Ah wonder who next getting banned soon..........

[sacky]

whats sinful about taking drugs. ?

[Falcon]

absolutely nothing, except for the deceit, cheating, lying, self-harm, poor role modelling, and pain it causes. :idea:

[sacky]

again its not the drugs but the abuse of it.

[Somebody007]

Yuh feel Marion might make ah jail??? All dat could happen too eh......

[Falcon]

no sacky, IT IS the drugs!!!!!!!!!

[King B]

Ato has always been against performance enhancing drugs, so your assertion of ALL is incorrect. I don't feel M Johnson was on any stuff either, just a superhuman athlete, one in a billion.

By saying ALL are we trying to dilute Marion's 'sin' (whichever one it is now?)...................

Breds, take a good look at Ato. That man must have the broadest pair of shoulders I have ever seen on someone his height. Some NFL players are not built like him, even now in his retirement he is huge. I wouldn't put my head on a block eh breds.

[Somebody007]

Oh by the way, I know Ato Boldon personally eh, and lemmeh tell yuh, when the man not runnin any race, he use to look dry as ah bone and yuh know what I use to find amazin, when the time drawin near to run in ah heat, the man use to look so well built, is like if he blow his body up just like an air balloon or something. I kinda have to agree with King B on this one here, I won't put anything pass Ato and using performance enhancing drugs.

[six4]

Now we are hearing that they are asking Marion's team-mates on the 4x4 relay team from the 2000 Olympics to relinquish their gold medals as well. That is kinda harsh, but under the circumstances it is the right thing to do. The theory is that they benefitted from the fruit from the same poisonous tree.

[Falcon]

six, if dem selfish they will dither about the medals...
if they really care about rules, and honesty and integrity, them woulda hand back areddy

but as someone say somewhere else, if you dont use ANY means necessary to win for yuh country , apparently yuh selfish....me ent know

[Somebody007]

Now we are hearing that they are asking Marion's team-mates on the 4x4 relay team from the 2000 Olympics to relinquish their gold medals as well. That is kinda harsh, but under the circumstances it is the right thing to do. The theory is that they benefitted from the fruit from the same poisonous tree.


Six, what about the rest ah dem runners on the relay team who was wukking the hard and honest route to earn their medals??? Dey deserve what dey get and it ent dem fault that Marion was on drugs....neither it is dem responsibility to check up on d woman to find out if she clean. I think they have ah right to protest there cuz even though people might say yuh selfish, yuh haddah remember, they wuk for dey medals...think if it was you in dem position....dem training every single day of their lives for an Olympic event....and now that they earn their medals they must all of ah sudden give dem back.....they must feel cut up about dat......

[Falcon]

If you worked your tail off in investment banking, and the boss was doing bobol from the start, yuh get yuh salary- but yuh get million bonus on top of that.
Mark buss, and yuh lucky you ent going to jail, yuh will still maintain yuh wuk real real hard for dat bonus? Yuh was sincere, no doubt about it, but ill gotten gains remain ill gotten gains.

If the other members of the relay team are good enough, they will be promoted in the INDIVIDUAL sprint races dat Marion win, and maybe they'll pick up their true recognition that way.

tief is tief.

[sacky]

falco,the problems aint drugs,check this man out;VICTOR CONTE. :twisted:

[raider]

funny thing about michael johnson. for years and years, the olympic 100 metre winner was considered to be the fastest man on earth, especially if an american won. when m. johnson won the 200m, the american media proclaimed him the fastest man on earth, even though, or maybe because, canada's(jamaican born) donovan bailey won the 100m race. johnson was heavily sponsored by nike and i can't help but wonder if if nike exerted pressure on the media to push the 200m champion as the fastest or if the fact that a foreigner had won the 100m in atlanta.

a 150m race was held in the skydome in toronto between bailey and johnson. johnson pulled up lame with bailey in a commanding lead.
i have to take six's (what de rass!!!!) side on this one; running two sub 10 second 100m at one time seems highly improbable to me.

[sacky]

what happen falco,did you see what,victor conte have been saying for a long time.

[Falcon]

no, tell me.

[sacky]

ok wait right dey i coming back. :evil:

[Somebody007]

yuh takin too long come back now nah.

[sacky]

http://sport.independent.co.uk/general/ ... 035956.ece (http://sport.independent.co.uk/general/article3035956.ece)

[sacky]

falco this is my favourite article though.http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/spor (though.http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/10/11/lets_hear_it_for_victor_conte.html) ... conte.html :evil:

[sacky]

no comments,is that the same one who said.its all about drugs.

[Falcon]

You tink they ever ask Dole to comment on them boys innocence? Stewwwps.....is bess is yuh did write the article yuhself oui

[sacky]

well at least he knew who he sold his services too.

[Falcon]

to.

[sacky]

to too two.

[Falcon]

stewwwps you introduce a teerd one........ :evil:

[sacky]

crapaud revolution.

[tonylongman]

What brilliance is being exhibited here.

"Ato body used to go from "dry" to "blow up" fast, his shoulders so wide, etc etc. most of you are falling for the usual TV tricks - they all look bigger on TV. You know him personally. SURE YOU DO.

Anyone who knows anything about performance enhancers knows what to look for - and it's not no damn shoulders and steroids (or anything else) don't blow you up overnight, you ignoramus.

Try

HUGE body changes from year to year - which he didn't have
Invincibility like Michael Johnson/Marion Jones e.g - which he never had
An actual mention of his name with ALL the evidence that has been unearthed since his retirement, all the dealers who have come forward and ALL the people who have been busted - NONE
Huge changes in performance from year to year - Ato ran the same times avg 9.9 19.8just about every year up until his accident in 2002.

From 1992 to 2004 Ato had ONE "positive" in 2001 for a cold medicine ingredient, which is not even banned anymore and that's it. So there is your smoking gun all you who want to convict him based on your knowledge and sense. No one busted has ever said yeah he too, nothing anywhere indicates he ever did anything. But then again that can't be right cuz , well "look at his shoulders" LOL. Steups. Idle minds.

I could tolerate or even read on if there was any sense behind the comments but it's pure trini hate and idiocy. As usual.

Oh yes and please show anything with Maurice Greene's name and drugs too, since you so boldly put that piece of incorrect tripe on your post.

Ah waiting...

I understand those who would say "well so many have been caught doing it so we might be naive to say our olympian never did" at least that has a smattering of logic (not really), but again, the stupidity that is passing for reasoning is a bit much, so I had to address it - I can't sit by while people spout nonsense about shoulders and air pumps and not interject some damn sense. I saw Ato at the FCB Awards recently and he looked normal as anyone would say who was there. A little heavier than in his running days, which is normal for all athletes, but this "shoulder" thing and "he used to blow up (after being "dry" lol) before a big race" is the dumbest thing I have ever seen on this forum.

Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.

[Falcon]

Tony inject some life back into this thread.....nice.....where Somebody, KingB and six4 for some intelligent debate?? :lol:

[sammy78]

Ato tested positive for "drugs" already...


http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2001/09/ ... 10908.html (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2001/09/08/boldon010908.html)


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/low/athletics/1532150.stm

I eh see him mention anything about it on his website's timeline though.

[Double Trouble]

I will always remember the look on Carl Lewis's face, when Ben Johnson smoked him in the 100m at Seoul. That was just priceless! There was always talk about Carl Lewis and illegal substances. Somehow Carl had a teflon coating and retired an American hero.

Check this out. http://www.time-to-run.com/drugs-in-spo ... ulate.html (http://www.time-to-run.com/drugs-in-sport/articles/speculate.html)

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/ ... 07806.html (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/04/17/1050172707806.html)